Hillary hangover: Who won more delegates last night?
posted at 4:30 pm on March 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Overall, you mean? Oh, she won more. Possibly … two more. In Texas? We’re not sure yet.
With 99 percent of the state’s precincts reporting, Clinton has 92 Texas delegates to the Democratic nominating convention to Obama’s 91 delegates with 10 caucus delegates still to be awarded…
But early returns show Obama was the preferred candidate of 52 percent of those attending the Texas Democratic caucuses. That’s with 36 percent of the precincts reporting.
Fox News places her net delegate pick-up for the night at 12, with those Texas 10 still be decided. Hopefully they’ll only break 6-4 for him so that she’ll at least have a, er, double-digit gain. Which means all the conservatives wringing their hands at the thought of Hillary rising from the grave should mellow out, take a hard look at the projections, enjoy the fact that the gloves are about to come off (“I hope people start asking, what exactly is this foreign experience that she’s claiming? I know she talks about visiting 80 countries, it’s not clear, was she negotiating treaties or agreements, or was she handling crises during this period of time?”), and just groove on it. Worst-case scenario: She beats him up for another seven weeks, flames out in Pennsylvania, the superdelegates say enough’s enough and defect to him en masse, and the stake is at last well and truly driven. Best-case scenario: You know.
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This is soooo sweet!
kcd on March 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Michelle going to have to pull out the big guns to clinch the nomination for the Messiah: something like wiping her ass with Betsy Ross’s flag on Bill Maher’s show.
Chuck Schick on March 5, 2008 at 4:40 PM
OK, maybe I haven’t been checking in often enough or it’s buried in one of the dozen or so links up top, but what’s the connection to Julie Andrews and “Sound of Music”?
flipflop on March 5, 2008 at 4:41 PM
I dont get it either
lorien1973 on March 5, 2008 at 4:41 PM
It’s celebratory and exultant. Geez.
Allahpundit on March 5, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Doesn’t this make us sort of fair weather friends? After all, we gave her a helping hand when she needed it. Now, we throw her away like used Kleenex? Seems so,….political.
a capella on March 5, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Clinton doesn’t have a chance. She doesn’t have the personality cult to inspire the masses.
ninjapirate on March 5, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Doesn’t this make us sort of fair weather friends? After all, we gave her a helping hand when she needed it. Now, we throw her away like used Kleenex? Seems so,….political.
a capella on March 5, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Somehow I think she will survive : )
kcd on March 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM
No, it seems so Clintonista…
Rick on March 5, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Best-Case Scenario. Democrat National Convention!
jaime on March 5, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Either Hillary or Obama gets the Dem nomination and ultimately elected president.
Pardon me for not exulting too much.
flipflop on March 5, 2008 at 4:46 PM
How much gas can we throw on the Obama/Hillary fire?
It’s nice having one half of the ticket filled. Now we can sit back, munch on Slim Jims, and watch the Democratic brawl unfold.
natesnake on March 5, 2008 at 4:46 PM
That’s assuming that the next 7 weeks doesn’t make the entire Democratic field look like racists and misogynists. This battle could turn a lot of voters off.
natesnake on March 5, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Yes, it is nice. My only concern is that we’ll enjoy ourselves too much watching the brawl, and nobody will be taking notes and strategizing.
Rick on March 5, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Priceless
Alden Pyle on March 5, 2008 at 4:50 PM
So it’s come to this now…..show tunes.
ChrisM on March 5, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Excellent, let’s see how long this thing can get dragged out.
doubleplusundead on March 5, 2008 at 4:51 PM
I don’t see the problem. Mrs. Clinton made it very clear this morning she’ll consider Mr. Obama to be her lawn jockey — er, uh — Vice President. Now that uppity ingrate better make nice and accept this gracious offer or his testicles are going in her lock box.
miles on March 5, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Okay, AP, it’s celebratory. But Julie Andrews? The Sound of Music? Puh-leeze!
sondiehl on March 5, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Yeah, we never get celebratory humping robots anymore. AP doesn’t love us!
lorien1973 on March 5, 2008 at 4:55 PM
That’s true. Ultimately McCain should take notes from the 1992 election: adultry and crooked dealings are not enough to disqualify a candidate. Stick with policy or the lack there of.
natesnake on March 5, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Drives a BMW
Eats out in Chinatown
Had German measles
Likes French Toast
Saw Bill pile up stones at Normandy
Owns an urban sombrero
Can identify a aspirin factory
Has a Jewish relative
Speaks Canadian fluently
fogw on March 5, 2008 at 4:56 PM
In poker terms, she has a weak hand with several outs. Time to see the Clinton machinery (and ugly shadow campaign) revved up to full throttle.
michaelo on March 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM
C’mon, guys. It’s a beautiful day. Let AP celebrate. He was up late blogging for us and he deserves some consideration.
jaime on March 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM
I’m hoping each (Dem) side forgets that the other is not the real opponent – that the Republicans are. That each side gets too entrenched, and the losing side (Obama or Hillary) refuses to support the eventual Dem candidate in November.
Rick on March 5, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Vermont 15 del tied to March 4th
Obama 9
Clinton 6(Obama +3)
————
Rhode Island 21 tied to March 4 primary
Clinton 13
Obama 8(Clinton +5, so far Clinton +2 Vermont+RI)
—————-
Ohio 141 tied to March 4 primary
Clinton 71
Obama 59(This only adds up to 130, I;m going off of cnn’s webpage)
————–
Texas 126 tied to March 4 primary, 67 tied to March 4 caucuses
Primary
Clinton 65
Obama 61
TX Caucus
Results not in on Cnn web page..
Chakra Hammer on March 5, 2008 at 5:00 PM
It all depends on the MSM. If they go after Obama now with enthusiasm, he is done. Look what just two days of press attacks did to his lead in TX. They’ve got 7 weeks to open Pandora’s box of Obama platitudes and orthodox policies. When you get into specifics, vague promises of hope get lost in the details.
Clark1 on March 5, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Soud of Music ? And here I thought Will I am was doing Hillary commericals now.
William Amos on March 5, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Bill has stones?
Entelechy on March 5, 2008 at 5:03 PM
The HildaBeast will be the nominee. Obama is beginning to be seen as the empty suit that he is. He has had a pass so far from the media. She has been kicked around by the media, been beaten in 11 primaries in a row, humiliated by her piece of excrement husband for years and she is still standing. She is light years tougher than the messiah. The Clinton goon squad will do a “hit job” on Obama one way or another. They will litigate (Florida & Michigan), cheat, coerce, whatever it takes. She and Bubba have not gotten her this far to give up. The Clintons have an insatiable lust for power and are the ultimate MegloManiacs. Eventually the party will see him as the wimp he is and throw him under the bus. The party has full-blown BDS and also lusts for power. If he falters, the party will see her as tougher and will opt for her, never mind delegates, total votes, states or rules.
mountainmanbob on March 5, 2008 at 5:07 PM
She sure claimed a loud victory in those two states in last night’s speech (when she talked about winning the battleground states).
Rick on March 5, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Julie Andrews segment from the Sound of Music means that for Clinton the Hills are still alive.. it means she still has a chance but don’t count on it.
tennisplayertx on March 5, 2008 at 5:14 PM
OK. If I’m wrong and McCain does beat the Dembot in November, I’ll head up to NYC and sing “The Sound of Music” with him in a duet in Times Square.
flipflop on March 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM
By “him”, of course, I mean AP.
flipflop on March 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM
OH YUK.
You just had to spoil my dinner, right?
That video was shot on the top of Ettenberg, a hill over the village of Marktschellenberg, between Salzburg and Berchtesgaden.
Great hiking, F*cked up folks.
Thanks but, IMHO, if you want a video to metaphorically portray the DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN THE YEAR 2008 try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdM8PDu6VMg
Delegates, schmelegates. Republicans have to take the socialist offensive seriously this time around.
In my mind, there’s no longer any sense in the arguement (analogy: were this 1932 Germany), “well, let their side win, and I’ll vote for our side in four years, after they’ve made a mess of everything.”
Lockstein13 on March 5, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Exactly. It’s amazing how ignorant people can be about the facts. The only way the woman can possibly win is to steal it at the convention which would fracture the Dem coalition for maybe a generation. All she gets from the wins is the political cover to keep fight and fight at the convention which is why tipping the election in her favor is such a big win for Republicans.
I never realized CDS was as rampant as BDS. Either disease prevents you from thinking clearly.
TheBigOldDog on March 5, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Get I get an “Obama Amen” on this sentiment?
Branch Rickey on March 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Overheard on a liberal talk radio program…
When Obama called Clinton to congratulate her on her Ohio win, he should have waited until 3 a.m. to see if she’d pick up the phone.
…now *that* is funny.
The Ugly American on March 5, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Exactly, DNA didn’t convict OJ so don’t even try to dissuade A BDS sufferer…
Branch Rickey on March 5, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Whether or not Hillary nets many delegates, her wins in Ohio and Texas have shifted the “electability” question. In Rasmussen’s national tracking poll (about the only reasonably accurate poll out there), McCain leads Obama 48-43 and Clinton by only 46-45. Who is more “electable” now? Maybe Rush Limbaugh might have second thoughts!
Obama will probably pad his lead by winning MS, but Clinton will probably win PA on April 22. Then comes May 6, where they split IN and NC. After that come WV (5/13), OR and KY (5/20), and MT and SD (6/3). Although Obama has cleaned up in red-state CAUCUSES, all the remaining races are PRIMARIES, where Clinton does better. The primary season is likely to end with Obama leading by 50-100 delegates, with both candidates short of 2,025 delegates (including super-delegates) due to the exclusion of the FL and MI delegates!
In such a scenario, why should either candidate drop out? What would remain is a lot of arm-twisting of uncommitted super-delegates, and/or do-over primaries in FL and MI, or else the race going to the convention without a nominee.
Clinton and Obama will probably spend millions of dollars bashing each other for the next three months, giving McCain lots of free “opposition research”. This could be very entertaining!
Steve Z on March 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Too cerebral Allah!
Perhaps this would have been better.
brtex on March 5, 2008 at 5:31 PM
MM on Fox right now. C’mon Michelle, wipe up KP as usual!
Branch Rickey on March 5, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Since when did we become defeatists?
TheBigOldDog on March 5, 2008 at 5:33 PM
Michelle watch the language! >:}
Chakra Hammer on March 5, 2008 at 5:36 PM
You mean planning our strategery.
txsurveyor on March 5, 2008 at 5:37 PM
“Nothing, nothing, nothing is inevitable in America.”
- – John McCain, last night, when count was done.
Entelechy on March 5, 2008 at 5:40 PM
You’re right, of course. I hate to be a defeatist. It’s so…Democrat. But whenever I hear about voter turnouts for the primaries, it sounds like the Dems are turning out in droves, while the Repubs, well, aren’t.
flipflop on March 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM
The Big Old Dog,
Do you think the HildaBeast gives a Rat’s Ass about fracturing the party? Do you think they won’t try to steal this thing? They are shameless and care about nothing but getting back into the White House.
Facts? It is only March 5th. There is a long time between now and the convention.
Never underestimate the Clintons. They are pure evil and don’t care about rules, laws or destroying their party.
Whatever it takes.
mountainmanbob on March 5, 2008 at 5:55 PM
I knew it was the Sound of Music clip, but I was hoping someone had photoshopped in Obama in an A-10 strafing Julie Andrews.
Mike Antonucci on March 5, 2008 at 6:00 PM
The end of Obama’s speech accepting the nomination:
“… and we’re going to fight McCain in South Dakota, & Oregon, & Washington, & Michigan, and then we’re going to Washington, D.C., to take back the White House! Yeaahrr!!!”
clark smith on March 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM
I think Hillary is being played like a fiddle now. She can’t see it or feel it. Same for Obama. Being played and don’t know it.
cjs1943 on March 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Florida Democratic Party = No Rules, Just Right
Bluecaper on March 5, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Check that ….should have said Texas
Bluecaper on March 5, 2008 at 6:40 PM
The tipping point for the Democrats was reached after Hillary’s decisive defeat in February’s Super Tuesday primaries and Obama was proclaimed the Messiah. It was on that day it became obvious that the Republican nominee would win the Presidency.
For Hillary, the Superdelegates, Florida and Michigan could turn the tide come convention time. If this happens, and Hillary wins a disputed nomination, look for all Hell to break loose in the Democratic Party. Blacks, in particular, will be outraged and their anger will not be limited to polite political discourse – there will be rioting. Combine this with the antipathy that many Democrats and Independents have for her, you end up with a candidate that is not electable.
On the other hand, if Obama secures the nomination, he is going to face the problem that Susan Estrich alluded to in a column last month. Believe me when I tell you that a significant number of Democrats and even more Independents will not be able to pull the lever for a liberal black man. It may not be something people will want to speak of but it is what it is. The Rezko prosecution is also going to be a problem.
On the Republican side we have a moderate who will be acceptable to a great many dissatisfied Democrats and Independents. Given the choice they are going to vote McCain instead of Clinton or Obama.
dwp4401 on March 5, 2008 at 7:04 PM
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