This race reminds me of a fight between Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler back in the 80s. Some of you may remember it. Hagler hit Leonard hard but not all that often. Leonard kept racking up points with flurries ending each round. Leonard won a split decision.

JonPrichard on March 5, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Remember it well Jon. Leonard also negotiated a portion of his millions to Hagler if Hagler agreed to a larger ring and 12 rounds instead of 15, (kind of a Karl Rove insight). Both decisions cost Hagler the fight and made Leonard look like a genius.

Drudge reporting that they will team up on same ticket.

Maybe the Superdelegates take Clinton and Obama behind the Convention hall, and say, “Ok, you two, we flip a coin to determine which of you nominates Prez, and which of you nominates Veep. If either of you balks at accepting this arrangement, we nominate the other as Prez right now. So do we have a deal?”

I’ve always considered any support of Hillary to be exceedingly reckless. If she wins, the support given to her will be unforgivable in the extreme.

clark smith on March 5, 2008 at 11:18 AM

A-MEN! brother…Lemme hearya say hallelujah!

Just countless movie villians who have left the hero to die in some evil device or scheme instead of just shooting the guy, rooting for/voting for/helping Hillary is just, plain…dumb.

… might as well rephrase the headline to:
“Clinton to Obama — Get to the back of the bus”

Careful there, pardner.

Clinton-Obama are just cynical enough to stage that on the campaign trail; shades of Clinton’s “Iron my shirt!” incident.

And, oh!, the human frailty of ill-conceived cunning: Rush, AP, etc, thought they could out-Machiavelli the Democrats—yes, the Democrats!—Hah! What happens if the Democrats have the last laugh, and the candidate ‘we’ helped choose for them still beats us in November?

Count on the MSM to pound the bongo drums of “It’s a RECESSION!!!; It’s a RECESSION, DAMMIT!!!” from now ’til November. McCain may well get taken down because—maverick though he is—he’ll be blamed as part of the Republican brand.

Then where will Rush’s “Hubba!, Hubba!, Hubba!” be on November 5? Where will AP’s legendary snark be? Fools, all! Rush, AP, and the rest of the Republican Hillary-backers may very well get Her Majesty, just like they’ve been longing for, with Clenis at her side as First Husband. Oh, the humanity!

If this nightmare of nightmares befalls us, let the aforementioned Republican commentators be metaphorically frog-marched from the stage of political commentary; let their ‘expert,’ ‘well-considered’ Republican strategy never again be credited.

I’ve always considered any support of Hillary to be exceedingly reckless. If she wins, the support given to her will be unforgivable in the extreme.

But I do think what McCain almost has to do is pick Romney. It’s a two-fer for him. Not only does he shore up his conservative support, but if he can snag Massachusetts from the Dems in November, it’s game over.

Typhoon on March 5, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Heh, they could catch Obama in bed with a little boy and a barnyard animal and Hillary with a bloody fork and Monica Lewinsky’s tonsils in her hand and Massachusetts would STILL vote for them over Romney. In fact it would probably earn them brownie points here. It’s the belly of the beast here in the Peoples’ Republick of Massachusetts. Palomino values are seen as mainstream.

Hillary lands the harder blows (big state wins) but Obama continues to rack up points (more delegates) with flurries. Obama will in all likelihood get to the convention ahead in pledged delegates and even in super-delegates. In effect, he’ll win by split decision.

By the way Ed, I believe the Texas caucus win for Obama was NOT razor-thin as you say. It looks like he won by a 2-1 margin.

CNN projects that Senator Hillary Clinton has won the Texas, Rhode Island and Ohio primaries – with the Texas caucuses not decided as of yet. She owes the victory to her tough fighter image – and also to some help…

There was a Democratic analyst on FOX last night who, and later along with Susan Estrich, were pushing the idea of a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket. I just don’t see it: Lady Macbeth Hillary has waited far too long for what (she thinks is) rightfully hers to settle for number two, and Obama will inevitably see her as being forced on him — not a good start for a working relationship.

Long long ago, there was a farmer whose prize possession was his
horse. Sure enough, it runs away. And all his neighbors gather
around to give pity. To which the farmer says, “Perhaps.” A week
goes by and the horse returns. And brings with her a pack of 10
more horses. When the neighbors gather around to congratulate
him on his extraordinary luck, he says, “Perhaps”. Later that
week, his son is riding one of the horses when he gets thrown
off and breaks his leg. The neighbors gather again to give
condolences for the farmer’s son’s injury–to which the farmer
replies, “Perhaps”. A few days later, the emperor’s soldiers
ride into town taking every able young man with them to fight a
war. When they rejected the farmer’s son because of his broken
leg, the neighbors came by to say how lucky they were and the
farmer replied, “Perhaps.”

Typhoon is right – they will run together, and win the election. Thanks, Rush

Think_b4_speaking on March 5, 2008 at 9:58 AM

I didn’t exactly say they’d win. I liked McCain’s speech last night. More than I thought I would. He just might make a much more viable candidate that most people suspect. The press can fawn over Hillobama all they want, but they can’t make her screeching voice any less irritating or his sing-song preacher delivery any less silly.

But I do think what McCain almost has to do is pick Romney. It’s a two-fer for him. Not only does he shore up his conservative support, but if he can snag Massachusetts from the Dems in November, it’s game over.

Yea, that’s a winning strategy for Hillary right now. Drudge might as well rephrase the headline to:
“Clinton to Obama — Get to the back of the bus”

But of course it’s not surprising they would come out today and try to paint Obama as in free-fall and worthy of nothing more than the VP slot on her ticket, since the Clinton machine has to spin like a shark has to swim. But the question goes back to who in their right mind would want to be Hillary Clinton’s vice-president? Bill’s been kept under wraps for the past two weeks, going only to places with small media market penetration, but does anyone really think that any normal vice-presidential duty not proscribed in the Constitution wouldn’t be handed over to Bill instead of the poor schlub who actually holds the job?

Obama as VP would be nothing more than the political equivalent of a minority “owner” of a business that gets government contracts who in reality is only a front-man on the application, in order to get bonus points for minority ownership in the contract awarding process. Outside of a few events like Martin Luther King Day ceremonies, we wouldn’t hear a peep or get a glance at Vice President Obama between the 2009 inauguration and the start of the 2012 primary season.

Obama as president, a long shot at best, would do very little damage but a Clinton with their machine will forever change the landscape of this country for generations. Even remotely empowering her for another day is/was assine.

patrick neid on March 5, 2008 at 8:34 AM

In a different time and place you would have preferred Stalin taken out and Hitler left standing.

Good luck with that.

I suspect Hillary has half her administration tentatively filled with super delegates who are now on the “short list” for various positions.

There will be an inverse relationship between the number of Clinton camp calls to super delegates and how well she feels she’s doing. Right now I suspect every super delegate in the country is on speed dial.

Drudge reporting that they will team up on same ticket.

JiangxiDad on March 5, 2008 at 9:28 AM

If he had dispatched her last night, I think he could have easily argued that he had taken on the queen and beaten her, and it would have been foolish for him to reach out and put part of ‘the past’ on the ticket. And, what’s amazing this morning is just how obviously beatable this guy that so many on the right seemed to have been cowering in fear of would have been on his own

But now what it’ll boil down to is that neither of them have closed the sale. Neither of them can claim to have beaten the other so solidly that they can afford to do without the other’s base.

At this point I can’t see what either of them might want in a running mate even mattering. Since neither of them can win on their own, they’re going to have to cut a deal.

So what we get is a couple months of them in the news flailing at each other, and then the breathlessly reported and fawned-over grand deal; both of them lifting each other’s hand over their heads as the balloons and confetti fall and Olby and Matthews spontaneously orgasm in Denver. McCain, meanwhile, and the Republican convention that follows relegated to a tedious footnote.

And while I’m not saying we could have changed any of this, I am saying I’d feel better about our side if we weren’t egging it on.

Your favorite neocon voted for Hillary Clinton yesterday afternoon, after dabbing a bit of holy water behind my ears just for good measure. The polling place itself at the time was fairly deserted and while there were a few volunteers there, none seeme…

the African-American who was led to the frontmost seat is about to be pushed out the door and under the bus by a cheering, frothing mob of liberal white women and union bosses.

The mask has come off the once-great democrat party.

jeff_from_mpls on March 5, 2008 at 9:15 AM

LOL. They never told the black dude he could drive.

Enjoy.

Typhoon on March 5, 2008 at 9:18 AM

Drudge reporting that they will team up on same ticket.

It’s obvious what’s going to happen.

For Allah and Rush and Mary Katharine Ham and everyone else who wished and hoped and worked and voted for this contest to go on, terrific; you got just what you wanted.

Swell.

What’s going to happen now is that it really doesn’t matter how much they beat each other up. It really doesn’t matter how much mud they toss. Because in the end neither of them can win enough delegates outright to win the nomination.

So the superdelegates are going to decide.

Ya got yer brokered convention.

And the deal’s going to be just this simple: Whoever finishes the contest as the popular vote winner is the top of the ticket; whoever finishes second is second.

Enjoy.