Hear, hear!

If she loses Ohio she’s out. Which means that there is literally no one that we do not hate right now: Both camps have sent surrogates to campaign among the Jewish community and attend forums with Jewish voters ahead……

TRC, it’s really hard when all three candidates suck. How did this country get to here?

Btw, love your comments.

Entelechy on March 4, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Some of us sharp. Some of us are flat. Entelechy, you are the harmonizing groove of many threads.

Good day to ya!

Make no mistake, he’s in this race for only one reason… and it’s not go give conservatives a choice, it’s not to advance any movement, it’s to advance Mike Huckabee.

The movement he advances within me is my bowels. He can’t possibly go away quick enough.

As for Hillary, she fights to the end. Hopefully. Seeing the libs in a pissing match would be a lot of fun.

You have no evidence of this except in your fevered imagination.

Let’s conjur up reasons and ways to lose elections to Democrats – that’s how “conservatives” “think” now?

“Grow up and start using some critical thinking skills instead of attacking me for not blindly supporting a political traitor like John McCain.”

John McCain has suffered more for this country and has done more for this country than you could possibly imagine. You’re a jackass for using his name and “traitor” in the same sentence. You don’t agree with him, fine. But you anti-McCainiacs are marginalizing yourselves with this stuff.

Keep it up doing exactly what the Democrats want you to do by maligning McCain. I’d rather do what the Democrats don’t want me to do. John McCain will be a good President, especially in contrast to the two absolute pieces of garbage the Democrats have to offer.

highhopes on March 4, 2008 at 1:35 PM

I don’t have the time or inclination to refute your post in detail. It wouldn’t be appropriate to this thread. If I thought you were capable of viewing these matters in a balanced way, I’d urge you to review the Keating 5 case for what it was. More generally, you and your allies would do yourselves a lot of good politically if you separated yourselves explicitly and rigorously from the bigots, extremists, and nuts instead of simply denying or ignoring their existence, where not echoing them, and if you otherwise took the beam out of your own eye before criticizing the speck in your brother’s.

As for Hillary vs. Obama, I went back and forth for the past couple of weeks before finally deciding to go with Barak in today’s Texas primary (I’m in a county where virtually all the down-ballot races are on the Democratic side, but which went for Bush over Kerry in 2004). The past couple of days with the NAFTA kerfuffle, the Rezko trial and Saturday Night Live’s skits shaming the press into taking a slightly tougher look at Obama, I came down on the side that even if she narrowly loses both Texas and Ohio, she’s not quitting for at least another month, and will probably hold on after that, in hopes that some outside issue will derail Barak’s juggernaut.

(Also, the Clinton machine is the absolute masters of spin, and there are still lots of people at the big media willing to accept it without question. Even though Hillary was up by double-digits over Obama in both Ohio and Texas a month ago, if the missus pulls out even the narrowest of wins tonight, her people will spin it as a major momentum shift, and a sign that Obama’s campaign is on its last legs. And a large portion of the press on Wednesday will parrot those lines, and designate Hillary as the frontrunner again and question whether Obama really is ready for a big-time fight for the nomination.)

McCain and most McCain supporters have treated Social Conservatives with respect

CK MacLeod on March 4, 2008 at 1:22 PM

I agree with you. Most of the vulgarity that I have been attacked with has come from Romney supporters (who consider me a child of Satan) and from Democrat trolls.

CK MacLeod on March 4, 2008 at 1:22 PM

You’re nuts. McCain and most McCain supporters have treated Social Conservatives with respect, soliciting their support and defending them against unfair attack.

That’s absolute BS. McCain said as much in his CPAC “my way or the highway” comments. McCain constantly tells social conservatives to f**k off if they don’t agree. Finally, I am not a racist or unpatriotic because I am against amnesty for illegal aliens yet I’ve been called that by McCain. He is nothing but a mean bitter old man who still resents the fact that he lost in 2000 because social conservatives didn’t want to nominate a RINO. He and you, his minions, have been seeking revenge ever since South Carolina in early 2000.

Nowadays, the hate in these parts almost always comes from anti-McCain voices like your own – people who toss off baseless slanders like “filled his pockets with lobbyist’s money” or who can be found upping the rhetorical ante whenever the discussion of illegal immigration comes up – and then usually react with shock and hurt feelings when called out.

McCain was reprimanded by the Senate Ethics Committee for his involvement in the Keating Five scandal. That’s hardly a “baseless slander.” And yes, for the record, it upsets me greatly to be called a racist or unpatriotic when somebody like you becomes a useless stooge of the McCain/Rudy wing of the DNC. Grow up and start using some critical thinking skills instead of attacking me for not blindly supporting a political traitor like John McCain.

Obama scares the sh%t out of me!
kcd on March 4, 2008 at 11:13 AM

McCain would not beat Obama.

Even the Las Vegas Odds makers are predicting an Obama win over McCain.

The only Republican who can defeat Obama is Huckabee.

Real Hope trumps False Hope.

Not so with you all who are out to get revenge on social conservatives and “Jesus freaks.”

You’re nuts. McCain and most McCain supporters have treated Social Conservatives with respect, soliciting their support and defending them against unfair attack. (I don’t claim to be an “evangelical” myself, but I have close and sympathetic personal and familial ties among churchgoers who’d be included.) I doubt you’ll find a single usage of the epithet “Jesus freaks” on HotAir or anywhere else except in your own posts.

There have been some regrettable attacks on Huckabee that in my opinion have gone over the line, but those have rarely if ever come from the McCain camp. They’ve been much more typical of a handful of commentators who believed rightly or wrongly that Huckabee was standing in the way of their favored candidates Thompson or Romney.

Nowadays, the hate in these parts almost always comes from anti-McCain voices like your own – people who toss off baseless slanders like “filled his pockets with lobbyist’s money” or who can be found upping the rhetorical ante whenever the discussion of illegal immigration comes up – and then usually react with shock and hurt feelings when called out.

If she wins through continued mud-slinging, because of her already high negatives, she will lose many blacks, independents and the newer, younger voters that Obama has been attracting for the general election. This will probably result in a McCain win in November. Therefore, her best hope for being elected in November is a combination of an Obama assassination and taking advantage of the resultant sympathy vote.

I like Rush’s concept of voting for Ms. Rodham in the primaries to keep the pressure on B.O. but on the other hand, the Clintons are snakes and the sooner you chop off it’s head, the less likey it can come back and bite you. Hillary and her band of flying monkeys are a threat until the very end and I feel uncomfortable with “playing” around with her just to stir the pot. It’s time to put the stake in once and for all.

From what I’ve seen and read about B.O. he is definitely beatable on substance. Style will only get you so far. Will the followers of the losing dem candidate flock to the winner or will they just stay home disgusted and not participate or will they change loyalties and vote D regardless?

I’m here in Iraq and Alajezeera LOVES Obama so that tells you something about the company you keep.

The theme may turn to “BO can’t close the deal,” and may even get ugly for him: “BO can’t stand the heat,” “Angry BO supporters threaten violence,” etc., along with whatever burbles up from Rezko-land and elsewhere. Relative slippage in the polls similar to what’s lately been showing in Rasmussen might also help Hillary’s argument that Dems start should view her as more electable. That said, unless his campaign totally collapses, it’s virtually impossible for HRC to re-gain the pledged delegate lead or the counted raw vote lead. If she wins Pennsylvania by a wide margin, her argument at least for re-voting MI and FL will be strengthened.

Another open question: If she’s seen as having benefited from going negative, will Barack return fire and escalate?

It could be a long hot Summer in Democrat-land. About the only thing that could save them from that would be a) a bolt from the blue (escalating scandal, war, death) or b) a deal from the depths.

I love seeing the democrats twistin’ in the wind because what they’re doing with their nomination process is the same stuff that crowd tries to teach kids. If you lose it’s okay, you’ll get a prize anyways! This also exactly why proportional awarding of the Electoral College is a BAD IDEA!

Hillary in a 4-state sweep, with a very narrow win in Texas further driving the wedge between blacks and latinos.

The_Freeze on March 4, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Interesting answer. I point out the way the hate-filled Rudy/McCain wing of the GOP rigged the primaries. You respond by telling me that Huckabee was far more hate-filled vis-a-vis Romney. It’s a nice sequitor but Romney was forced out and Huckabee really doesn’t matter.

The Rudy/McCain wing is still waging a vendetta against anybody who doesn’t become an abject apologist for McCain- using Clintonian parsing to make that bitter dried up dinosaur relevant in a race that he shouldn’t be running in.

To a certain degree, I’m happy. For most of the GWB administration, I agreed with enough of what he was doing about the GWOT to support him on issues where he and I had some disagreement. Not so with you all who are out to get revenge on social conservatives and “Jesus freaks.” Should McCain pull off a stunning upset and get into office, he can count on the GOP base to treat him like a party in opposition to all the liberal initiatives that will undoubtedly come out in an administration so unfit to lead the nation as any one that could be assembled by war hero and political traitor John McCain.

highhopes on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Give me a break. Hate-filled? The most insidious, filthy hate campaign of the season was waged by the Huck evangelicals against Mormon Mitt (”Jesus and Satan are brothers?”) in Iowa. You don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to hate.

The_Freeze on March 4, 2008 at 11:39 AM

That was a really, really low thing to do, especially by a so-called man-of-God. Mitt didn’t smear anyone. He ran the cleanest campaign. His ads were “contrast ads”, comparing his record to other’s records and ol’ Huckster couldn’t handle it. Mitt had to govern in a very liberal state, just like Pawlenty here in MN. I might add, that Pawlenty is doing a good job holding his own against a DFL (dumb f#$%ing liberals) controlled house and senate and liberal news outlets.

And, another thing, you can say hello to Senator Al Franken next fall, too.

Thanks for listening to me as I had to rant and get this out of my system.

Do you actually google everything AP says?

Aristotle on March 4, 2008 at 12:34 PM

NO

Btw, love your nome de plume.

Entelechy on March 4, 2008 at 12:16 PM

I think i gonna regret asking this, but what the hell.

Do you actually google everything AP says?

It’s hard to tell Democrats that they suck, when we are looking pretty vapid ourselves.

The Race Card on March 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM

TRC, it’s really hard when all three candidates suck. How did this country get to here?

Btw, love your comments.

where McCain will finally put him out of his jolly misery.

I googled the unique word combination of “jolly misery“, and only 4 occurrences were spotted…You da man with a cynically funny bone, for sure, AP.