Pace U. Koran-flusher gets 300 hours of community service
posted at 10:05 am on March 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Remember him? A blogosphere cause celebre last summer and the occasion for one of Hitchens’s finer moments on television opposite CAIR tool Ibrahim Hooper, who had the elephant stones to assert putting a book in a toilet is an “act of intimidation” in a world where Geert Wilders has to worry constantly about having his throat slit for making a movie. If the sentence sounds excessive to you, keep it in perspective: Kerplunking two Korans into the porcelain goddess of some Pace University restroom is, conceivably, an offense worth two to eight in the state pen. Unless they’re your Korans, of course, in which case kerplunk away. Or rather, don’t — hate-crime rules are getting grayer every day, especially north of the border. Who knows if there even needs to be an underlying property offense anymore to justify a prosecution?
Anyway, message received.
A former Pace University student who twice threw copies of the Koran into a toilet at the school after disputes with Muslims pleaded guilty Monday to disorderly conduct in connection with the incidents.
Stanislav Shmulevich, 24, pleaded guilty as part of a deal in which he must do 300 hours of community service. He has completed about 80 hours of the service at a hospital, his lawyer said…
Detective Faisal Khan, who prepared the complaint, said Shmulevich told him “he committed the acts out of anger toward a group of Muslim students with whom he had a recent disagreement.”…
His lawyer, Glenn Morak, said he believed the disorderly conduct plea was an appropriate disposition.
“There was no hate crime here,” Morak said. “He accepts responsibility, and he is repentant.”
Exit question: Assume his community service labor is worth the minimum wage. A de facto $1,755 fine for dunking two books in water?
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Imagine if he’d used the toilet before dunking them. He might’ve gotten a $2000 grant from the NEA.
amkun on March 4, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Dhimmi got out of line.
Exit question: Still legal to plunk a statue of Jesus in piss, right?
amerpundit on March 4, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Not only is it legal, you can get a government grant to help you out, just apply at the NEA.
trubble on March 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Bad lawyer.
Should have made this a case of Freedom of Artistic Expression and Peter Zenger-ed the hell out of it.
profitsbeard on March 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM
amkun, spot on analysis of the ongoing hypocrisy.
kirkill on March 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Hey, look on the bright side. At least academia took a stand and held a student accountable for his behavior, right? They’re hoping you ignore the fact that some behavior is more punishable than others.
Slublog on March 4, 2008 at 10:15 AM
I want someone to try that in the same school with two bibles and see what
doesn’thappen.drjohn on March 4, 2008 at 10:18 AM
The purpose of the 1st Amendment is two fold:
1. Prevent the government from regulating information.
2. Prevent the people from being punished for what they believe.
Hate crimes offer enhanced penalties based on the beliefs of the one who commites the crime. I believe that hate crimes legislation is unconstitutional as it punishes one person more harshly than another for committing the exact offense only because one held opinions that are not politically correct.
All one need to be guilty of a hate crime is say something that liberals hate. Since liberals hate losing arguments any person who wins an argument with a liberal is in danger of committing hate speach.
See you in Jail Michelle…
The Rock on March 4, 2008 at 10:22 AM
One should not be punished for their beliefs, only their actions.
The Rock on March 4, 2008 at 10:22 AM
The real ‘intimidation’ going on here is the leveraging/abuse of a grotesquely unconstitutional aspect of our legal system for the supposed benefit of muslims/islam.
This ‘benefit’ is, in fact, an albatross.
LimeyGeek on March 4, 2008 at 10:30 AM
What a waste of good toilet paper.
Squiggy on March 4, 2008 at 10:32 AM
testing, testing, testing
Akzed on March 4, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Can’t post the link for some reason, but CNSNews.com reports that Hussein flushed 2,000 years of Christian morality down the tube. Is he getting community service for that?
By Robert Knight
CNSNews.com Commentary
March 04, 2008
What if a presidential candidate claimed that his view on an issue drew its power from the Sermon on the Mount, which was delivered by no less an authority than Jesus Christ? What if that view contradicted 2,000 years of church moral teaching? Wouldn’t this be a major news story?
It would if it involved a Republican. Or even another Democrat. But when it comes to Barack Obama, the media continue to ignore newsworthy topics and refuse to give the public substantive details about the senator’s views on many key issues.
On Sunday, at Hocking College in Nelsonville, Ohio, Sen. Obama promoted homosexual legal civil unions in answer to a question posed by a pastor, and then threw out this challenge: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount, which I think is, in my mind, for my faith, more central than an obscure passage in Romans.”
Akzed on March 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM
I think even thinking about doing anything that anyone thinks might be unthinkable should be seriously thought about.
Knowledge is good.
NoDonkey on March 4, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Why isn’t throwing a Koran into a toilet freedom of speech while burning the flag is? Both are showing disdain for some one’s beliefs.
TooTall on March 4, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Both are ‘freedom of speech’ issues, of course. What I’m not clear about is whether this guy flushed his own korans down the crapper, or someone elses’, or public copies.
If they didn’t belong to him, then it’s a purely ‘destruction of property’ issue, which unfortunately coincides with the ugliness of islamongering.
LimeyGeek on March 4, 2008 at 10:49 AM
The good thing that has come out of this is that it really put CAIR on the defensive. Even liberals were astonished that they were calling for hate crime charges, and what public there was that paid attention to the situation wasn’t buying their BS.
He did take and destroy property not belonging to him. That’s not under debate, and some punishment was deserved. I think 300 hours is too much, but it threw a wrench in the crucifiction of an infidel.
MadisonConservative on March 4, 2008 at 10:53 AM
He’s just lucky he didn’t use Obamahammed’s full name. That’s a beheadin’!
DaveHusseinS on March 4, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Thats cause as you know Christian’s can’t be discriminated against cause they have all the power……
The double standard will never end, Cover Mary with poop and vaginas and its art, throw a Koran (which was most likely made by Penguin books and not holy at all) in the toilet and its HATE
Rbastid on March 4, 2008 at 11:13 AM
What a kerfuffle this kerplunking has caused.
greenonions on March 4, 2008 at 11:16 AM
This won’t continue forever. Once the mainstream media get over their insistence on considering all religions moral equivalent (especially their ‘religion of peace’), they will start reporting these stories.
People will get fed up with it eventually. Muslims will overplay their hand at some point and there will be a backlash. It won’t be from any government, but it will be by the people.
ThackerAgency on March 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM
It’s time we started fighting fire with fire.Need to put on ski mask and start having some Koran book burnings,Maybe burn Mohammad in effigy.Throw in a few flags,anything with a crescent moon.When they complain tell them welcome to the 21st century.
E.Tex on March 4, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Repentant?!
Tzetzes on March 4, 2008 at 12:06 PM
As compared to being awarded the Presidents Medal of Freedom?
He should have replaced the books he damaged, the rest was a dispute, in other words who swung first and how is who’s fault it is determined?
Hate isn’t a necessary component in pointing out the faults of an ideology.
Speakup on March 4, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Now THAT’s funny. And why pay for your copy? Cair is offering them for free! http://www.explorethequran.org/
Califemme on March 4, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I’ll bet you can stand in the public square and BURN a Bible and not a peep will be heard about hate crimes.
jimbo2008 on March 4, 2008 at 12:42 PM
What is the current sentence for putting Mein Kampf in a commode?
MB4 on March 4, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Too bad someone wasn’t around to flush the original down the crapper with the author. Slavery, genocide and global jihad would have been set back a bit.
Hening on March 4, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Yes, Mr. Obama, let’s go to the Sermon on the Mount:
Matthew 5:32 – But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Mr. Obama, Jesus Christ, Himself, specifically used “wife” and “her” in conjunction, concerning both divorce and marriage, in His Sermon on the Mount.
It would appear that Mr. Obama’s “change” will include changing the specific terms, used by Jesus Christ, in the Sermon on the Mount.
It would appear that homosexual marriage is a part of Mr. Obama’s “change” for America.
OhEssYouCowboys on March 4, 2008 at 1:05 PM
I go to Pace University and I think this is totally ridiculous. He threw some books in a toilet – what law was broken? He should have paid the value of the books and called a jerk, and called it a day. But if you want to talk about intimidation, let’s talk about how the Muslim group at Pace successfully blocked the Jewish group from showing the movie Obsession, about radical Islam, that they believed was prejudiced. Ridiculous. Pace was just desperate to look good but handled the situation terribly.
mattyj86 on March 4, 2008 at 1:09 PM
kerplunking the koranimal koloring book
John Cunningham on March 4, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Out: Pork, the other White Meat.
In: Koran, the other Mein Kampf.
Out: Salem Witch trials.
In: Pace University Infidel trials.
MB4 on March 4, 2008 at 1:34 PM
Freedom of speech; right down the toilet.
Johan Klaus on March 4, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Wonder what would happen if he had put it in a jar of urine!
JellyToast on March 4, 2008 at 8:46 PM
One more baby step towards the muslim end game. Here’s another, Harvard bans men from the gym for six hours per week so Muslim women can use the facility without being near the infidels.
Alden Pyle on March 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
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