Open thread: Armageddon; Update: Huckabee concedes; Update: McCain clinches; Update: Hillary wins Ohio; Update: Hillary wins Texas
posted at 5:54 pm on March 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Exit polls are just starting to trickle in. Nothing yet by way of hard data but — surprise — voters in both Texas and Ohio find Obama to be more electable, per Fox News. We’ve had the first reports of dirty tricks too, courtesy of pro-Hillary TalkLeft. And Huck is complaining about the lack of energy on behalf of McCain among the GOP base, even as Maverick prepares to put him to sleep tonight and turn his attention fully to the, ahem, purple states.
Ed and I are going to try to co-liveblog it via the Cover It Live widget below. (Thanks to Patrick Ishmael for the tip.) It’s our first time using it so bear with us. Things should heat up starting at 7 p.m. ET. While you wait, enjoy the results of this poll suggesting whom voters really trust at 3 a.m. Exit quotation one: “I didn’t get my hands dirty making all those good things happen in the ’90s.” Exit quotation two: America is a country that’s “just downright mean.”
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One thing that does hearten me, no matter how inevitable the breakup of the Republican may seem at times, at least when we get into spats it’s over actual principles, whereas when the liberals mix it up, it’s usually about identity politics and who has (more) absolute moral authority.
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Hillary up 23k in TX, according to Fox.
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM
It’s been a series of elections, since 1912. Jeez, does anyone hear read real history!?!?!?!
And don’t forget, Reagan raised taxes to preserve FDR’s progrom, social security (now, if there ever was a antithesis to liberty…).
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Agreed wilson started the ball rolling, the Great depression gave it a mortal wound now we are starting to see its death throws.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM
For some reason that reminds me too much of “pessary”.
mikeyboss on March 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Fort Bend and Harris Counties are less than 20% in, Tarrant at 10% and Travis at 21%, so the Big O’s big precincts have yet to come in.
Think_b4_speaking on March 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Austin is up for TX, Ed? Wow, maybe that youth really can’t be counted on!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Kewl. Sounds like “Lost.”
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Then again, if I were to start getting all funkadelic on the Floyd I would need to amp-up a little Moody Blues to keep me optimistic and sane.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Man the republican crossover vote seems to have killed Obama’s chances !
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Prepare for 2010 and 2012??? Just a thought?
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
I just hope McCain picks Romney for VP, because we’re on the crux of something huge here.
Ugly on March 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Ok. Great. So, exactly how do you intend to fight?
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
first by staying home and not being a party to a lesser evil.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
One of ‘em. But we, WE the CITIZENS are the real culprits. WE just kept believing and believing and believing our politicians would be different than the bums before them.
But they’re all sociopaths. The ones that ain’t, they quit.
Oh God she is making me sick!! Her suckass IAMWOMANHEARMEROARWHONEEDSMENWEHAVEARTIFICIALINSEMINATION!
Peace out.
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
ugh hillary please stop talking
custer on March 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM
I love a good cat fight.
Reeeeowwww!!!
fogw on March 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM
25k according to CNN, 48% reporting (I think).
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM
If that’s true, then Hillary should be worried about the general–the only thing that will have saved her from political death were Republicans playing politics who won’t vote for her in the general.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM
But staying home in November accomplishes what toward those goals. Like I said, that’s why I voted the most conservative choices available to me in this and all elections.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:30 PM
LOL that explains the pessimissm in here everyone thought Obama would win against McCain and its looking more like McCain will be president. And that has some down
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM
ONLY 15% of Houston, Dallas, and Fort Worth are in….Barak territory…don’t get your hopes up yet.
Limerick on March 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Exactly.
Heh…
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM
McCain I hope you make a terrific conservative VP pick because if you fire up the base you will be President.
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM
FYI - Did any of you all know that Bret Baier and David Hassehoff went to the same high school. Seriously, they did.
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM
President John Sydney McCain
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
the hunger for change can turn quickly into a demand for change and then even quicker for new government. the present day actions of our government reminds me more and more of the writtings from 1770’s. Common Sense reads as fresh today as it did 200 odd years ago.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Not me. There’s no way McCain can lose against her. But I’m concerned about McCain’s age… so we need a strong VP.
Ugly on March 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Heck who knew Saturday Night Live would help change the dems election.
SCGOPgirl on March 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
first by staying home and not being a party to a lesser evil.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Staying home punishes the lesser ticket nominees who will be sorely needed if McCain keeps bouncing to the left, or if one of the dems wins the WH (shudder).
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Tina Fey’s air of smugness just increased by 3x
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Man go onto the CNN site and check the Tx border counties with Mexico. Less than 10% in and hillary is winning 70% of those votes. The Hispanic vote comes through and is keeping hillary close
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Great! I just can’t wait to vote for the remaining candidate who will oppose amnesty and preserve our sovereignty!
….wait a second!
SaintOlaf on March 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
FYI - Did any of you all know that Bret Baier and David Hassehoff went to the same high school. Seriously, they did.
So what, Baier isn’t a rock star in Germany and probably hasn’t eaten a cheeseburger off the floor.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Exactly.
And on that note I am going to bed, with a clear conscience.
Vigilante on March 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Webb County on Rio Grand border. 1% reporting Hillary 77% and Obama 21%
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:32 PM
didn’t you get the memo over the last 4 years, the Rep leadership no longer thinks they need the base. they think they can become democratic lite and pull in moderates. the Rep leadership hates their base and thinks of them as racists, uneducasted, knuckle dragging humans that are too stupid to understand the complex problems of today’s world.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
SNL!?
RUSH! RUSH! RUSH! RUSH!
Tell me again how the conservatives are on the wane!
Skywise on March 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
ONLY 15% of Houston, Dallas, and Fort Worth are in….Barak territory…don’t get your hopes up yet.
I’m not sure that’s necessarily the case.. austin is obama territory, but i would think D and H are evenly split… remains to be seen.
Anyone talked about the Katrina-evacuee Houston component? (not sure it means anything…)
jdub on March 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Break out the Michigan and Florida votes.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
So you’ll allow the greater evil to prevail? Wow… good luck with that. That’s exactly the kind of thing I heard in 2006. How’d that work out for us? Now all three branches of the US government have a very likely chance of being firmly in dem control.
You do what you feel you have to. I’m gonna use the only weapon against this mess available to me.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
McCain I hope you make a terrific conservative VP pick because if you fire up the base you will be President.
Pick the Guv of Alaska or Oliver North. Either way you get my vote.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I can see the future you want for us all, dressed in Gothic clothes, jet black hair, dog collars around our necks, tied up to any convenient post, bent over, waiting for the next “passer by by” to have thier way with us, then we will go to the government for relief……… Nice.
You can choose, and vote, and submit to live in that world,…….. I have a hunch there are but a little more than “300″ that will not.
I’m with those of us that realize what it has taken to make the United States what it truly is, not what the liberals and media want you to think it is.
This country is based upon individual rights, individual responsibility, laws, and the the enforcement of just laws.
Liberty and Freedom are such a precious gift, that our Founding Fathers knew that we, as individual citizens, would have to fight for it everyday.
Our crime…… letting the bureaucrats actually run the country while our elected officials just keep office to campaign.
Time to shake the tree?????
Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Famous Last Words.
Dorvillian on March 4, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I bet Code Pink throws animal blood on Hillary’s supporters at the convention.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 4, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Hillary up by 34,000 votes
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Oh! Oh! Obama speaking on MSNBC now… Time for TIngle Watch!
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Told you I wasn’t “staying home” but will exercise my right to vote for a 3rd party and work for 2010 and 2012 since there are NO more conservatives left in the race, MAO!
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
That component that overstayed their welcome?… Hmmm…
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Over halfway home, Clinton up 25k in TX.
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
**Pukes all over keyboard**
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Where?!?
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
I bet Code Pink throws animal blood on Hillary’s supporters at the convention.
Think they will have any left after Berkeley?
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
And if that happens, you may belittle, ridicule, chide & mock me mercilessly :P
Ugly on March 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Obambi’s about to give another Sermon on the Mount.
Praise the Messiah.
fogw on March 4, 2008 at 11:40 PM
C’mon! Get over it!
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
This whole primary is turning into an object lesson in why Democrats can’t be trusted to govern. They created an incredibly arcance system of apportioning delegates, because one of their champions of the little people, to wit, Jesse Jackson, complained that his votes weren’t being counted–meaning even though he had won a bunch of votes, he hadn’t won too many delegates. Since he was possessed of absolute moral authority, the Dems had to create a backasswards system to gerry-rig the system so that losers like him wouldn’t be quite so defeated. So they wouldn’t feeeeeel so defeated. So what we have in the primaries is what we have in political life generally. Stupid, yet complicated, feelings-based policies that don’t deliver what they promise, and in fact deliver the opposite (more baaaad feeeelings) vs. bracing, reality-based policies that say what they mean, mean what they say, and deliver the goods accordingly. (Not so much, truth be told, but you get my point.) So the GOP has it’s candidate, and can now proceed with the business of uniting their party, and laughing at the Donks, while the Dems descend further and further into the pits of political hell. “Oh, please, please, please God, I promise I’ll be good. I’ll even give up [to be named later]. Only just bring me that brokered convention.”
smellthecoffee on March 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Have Dallas and Houston done much reporting yet?
If not, Obama will probably still win.
MB4 on March 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
In texas vote overall
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:33 PM
You have a point. McCain will NEVER get my vote. But I can leave that line blank and vote for the other ticket holders, but see here is the problem. ALL 535 people in the CONGRESS is the problem. they are all corrupt, power hungry, snobs that no longer care about the will of the people and have figured out how to fix the elections with gerrymeandering and false advertisments so that they no longer need to listen to those people except in the very small times that people enmass rise up and tell them no.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Oh! Oh! Obama speaking on MSNBC now… Time for TIngle Watch!
You mean Nikolae Carpathia?
Don’t look too closely at his hairline, you might not like what you see.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Same old BS.
Can you imagine listening to this crap for another 6-8 months?
fogw on March 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I can’t bear to watch Obama. ACK!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Obama will “change” churches tomorrow.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Looks like she may pull this out in both Ohio and Texas at 10:43 Central time.
In 4 years, regardless of who’s elected, we’re going to be a very large 3rd world country.
BowHuntingTexas on March 4, 2008 at 11:43 PM
I haven’t heard of anyone fainting at his rallies now that it’s brought to everyone’s attention. Curious!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Since ‘99 …, and the higher up he gets, the worse it gets. he wasn’t pulling this lameass MLK impersonation a few years ago.
That, and he completely misses the boat on Iraq.
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Mopers: (hold nose and recite) “I’m jus’ gohn stay home”
Fighters: “I vote every damn election, primaries and generals, local and national, and I’ll keep fighting until the day I die”
Which one are you?
Saltysam on March 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:41 PM
I don’t believe that for a second. One of my congressmen is a top-notch pol, a USMC veteran and a staunch conservative.
Have some faith that we can rid ourselves of the dreck and get back to where we need to be.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Obama: McCain chooses a course that promises “a century of war in Iraq.”
He’s at it again.
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Everytime that blowhard says “our brave troops” I want to slap him silly.
fogw on March 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Houston has 10% in, and Dallas 16% in - its not over yet
Think_b4_speaking on March 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Fair enough. And I agree about no more conservatives in the race. But voting 3rd party still hands power to the dems.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
That component that overstayed their welcome?… Hmmm…
The same.
Anyone got any thoughts as how thtat might affect tonight/
jdub on March 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Obama believes he can win on the anti war vote alone
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Pardon me, Obama, but I AM ASKING FOR MY TAX CUT TO REMAIN IN TACT !!! DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Shhhhh…that in itself is another miracle brought to you by Obamagic.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
How do you know? I am just trying to lighten it up around here…
One more mention of students in debt and I will puke and bleed like a SARS victim, I swear!
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM
But have you seen the pictures of his campaign stops? They look like they were taken at a megachurch’s Praise & Worship, not at a political campaign!
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I can’t bear to watch Obama. ACK!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:42 PM
You better watch it…don’t you know it’s racism if you do not like him.
Pretty soon you will not be allowed to call him by his name……wait a second!
SaintOlaf on March 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
All of the most populous nations in the world are 3rd world countries. Why should we be any different?
American exceptionalism be damned.
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
That’s all he has.
And it worked so well for Ted Lamont.
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:46 PM
So you’ll allow the greater evil to prevail? Wow… good luck with that
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:36 PM
It is not until the evil prevails and shows itself in all its glory that people will understand it for what it is and denounce it. the anbar awakening showed the way. small evils have a way of hiding what they are and making the people suffer more in the long run.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
And THAT will be his downfall!
(Did he vote against the war to begin with? I dunno…)
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Obama: McCain chooses a course that promises “a century of war in Iraq.”
What isn’t said: “My way is a course of kowtowing to every tin-pot thug in the world…but at least we will be liked by the europeans”.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Did I just see that right? Hillary up 50k in Texas now?
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
There are a lot of empty things about you, Obama.
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
The reason Hillary is pulling away is she is getting almost 70% of the vote in Texas southern border counties. and they are hanging out there as well as Houston and Austin and Dallas
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Friggin’ democrats, never short on anecdotes. Kinda like Grandpa.
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
You mean Ned Lamont?
amerpundit on March 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
(Did he vote against the war to begin with? I dunno…)
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:47 PM
He wasn’t in federal office at the time. Convenient for him, isn’t it?
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Put Michelle Obama up there to say a few words.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
You mean, Ned Lamont…
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Obama didnt get elected to the Senate till 2004 after the war started
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I had to turn it, of not to snicker for a minute.
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Um .. yeah. I guess I kinda’ made my own point, eh?
Thanks ;)
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Bingo! :)
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I like how every Obama speech on a primary night includes a geography lesson: “from the green hills of Vermont, to the mountains of Colorado, to the whore houses of New Orleans…”
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Is his audience standing in a pool of kool-aid?
Pan back please.
fogw on March 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Yo’ welcome! ;)
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:49 PM
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