Open thread: Armageddon; Update: Huckabee concedes; Update: McCain clinches; Update: Hillary wins Ohio; Update: Hillary wins Texas
posted at 5:54 pm on March 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Exit polls are just starting to trickle in. Nothing yet by way of hard data but — surprise — voters in both Texas and Ohio find Obama to be more electable, per Fox News. We’ve had the first reports of dirty tricks too, courtesy of pro-Hillary TalkLeft. And Huck is complaining about the lack of energy on behalf of McCain among the GOP base, even as Maverick prepares to put him to sleep tonight and turn his attention fully to the, ahem, purple states.
Ed and I are going to try to co-liveblog it via the Cover It Live widget below. (Thanks to Patrick Ishmael for the tip.) It’s our first time using it so bear with us. Things should heat up starting at 7 p.m. ET. While you wait, enjoy the results of this poll suggesting whom voters really trust at 3 a.m. Exit quotation one: “I didn’t get my hands dirty making all those good things happen in the ’90s.” Exit quotation two: America is a country that’s “just downright mean.”
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Why not cheer Democrat indecision and infighting? WooHoo!
darii on March 4, 2008 at 10:56 PM
You’re right…let’s hope it’s so close and bloody that there will be riots in the streets when the Hildebeast steals the nomination.
SaintOlaf on March 4, 2008 at 10:58 PM
YES.
It’s what some of us conservatives have been trying to tell the rest of you, when some of you were flirting with supporting Obama just because you have old-school hatred of all things Clinton.
The Democrats did the improbable this year, and actually found someone MORE LIBERAL than Hillary. YES. Really. They found someone WORSE than she is.
This is why I’m hoping she stays in, and eventually wins the nomination - but at the least, this is going to cause several more weeks of Democrat infighting, which can only be good for us.
Vyce on March 4, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks. Sorry about that Bishop. I guess I’m about as hip as you.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Why not cheer Democrat indecision and infighting? WooHoo!
Yes, why not? Let them tear each other to shreds, spend Hollywood’s money and generally scare the shat out of anyone who watches their antics.
The Repub campaign ads are practically writing themselves.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Sorry about that. You do know about the Spring Hill campaign, don’t you? It’s vote for her in the spring, shower afterwards, and do not repeat.
steveegg on March 4, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Yep, yep!
Although I am beginning to have second thoughts about this Hillary crossover vote now that it looks like even the Dems are seeing the absence of light coming from Obama.
Vigilante on March 4, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Dude. Step away from the bong, get some sleep, and come back fresh in the morning. You are WAY too dark with this crap. You can go that way if you want to, but I won’t.
You don’t prevail by giving up. I’m not fatalistic. I’ve got more faith in the American People than you. Hell, we survived 8 years of the clintoons. We’ll survive a McC presidency.
Enjoy your fetal postition.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 10:59 PM
OK, people! McCain got the GOP nomination.
That’s it. The Huck is dropping out. The End.
Let’s move on, and stop whining!
newton on March 4, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Yeap time to stay home. Being a Rep it seems no longer means what it use to. Now its just for the rich fat cats to get cheap labor. Bush destroyed the Rep party and it looks like McCain is coming to finish off what’s left. the South is now inplay for the Dems. Look for Hillary or BHO to pick up a couple southern states this time around.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:00 PM
To Malan89
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 10:57 PM
whoops
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:00 PM
pseudoconservatives or pseudoRepublicans
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks. Sorry about that Bishop. I guess I’m about as hip as you.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 10:58 PM
AHA! Well thanks one and all for the input, I can now call myself sorta-hip.
No worries ,darii, we can still enjoy a sleeve of Pringles and celebrate our unhipness.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Don’t think I’m pleased about that. I’m not, I assure you.
I can’t believe that I’m going to have to vote for McC. But that’s what we get for letting the media choose our candidates for us.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:02 PM
lol. Yes, yes we can. *groan*
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:02 PM
The networks call it for Hillary -
Against all odds, with a voice reminiscent of every Frankenstein movie ever made, the cry rings out:
IT’S ALIIIIIVE!
cool breeze on March 4, 2008 at 11:03 PM
That, and open primaries so independents and dems can cross over and force McCain upon us, which was a big part of it in the early states.
TexasDan on March 4, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Lo and behold, I think Bill actually helped Hillary. By his saying, “If we(sic) lose TX & OH, she should be outta here, but if she wins, she’ll be the nominee,” now Hillary can claim momentum and better appeal to super delegates and the final dozen primary States.
G. Charles on March 4, 2008 at 11:03 PM
And it probably helped turn out her supporters.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:04 PM
They began the search in 2004 and had to search in the deep depths of the Illinois State Senate to find him. Amazing, huh?
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 11:05 PM
I just threw up in my mouth
F15Mech on March 4, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Bush the First began the process of destroying Reagan’s Conservative Coalition the minute he took office. Then Clinton moved to the center, all the while slowly make moves to the left. Perot did his part, suckering righties and lefties to deny the Repubs a victory in ‘96. Bush the Second sucked everyone to the middle with the War on Terror and his just-say-yes to the overblown budgets to just about finish off the conservatives, by screwing up the restructuring of Iraq, pushing more centrists to the left.
McCain will finish off the Conservative Movement.
Liberty is dead. It’s all over but the dirt-throwin’.
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:05 PM
I think Obama on his own would be easier to beat. But if the candidate is Hillary, the youth vote will disappear back into the woodwork. That youth vote would wallop us unless McCain picks a VP that charges some of them up on our side.
Connie on March 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Look at the bottom of the widgit and you’ll see a little button that will let you turn off auto scrolling.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Yeap time to stay home. Being a Rep it seems no longer means what it use to. Now its just for the rich fat cats to get cheap labor. Bush destroyed the Rep party and it looks like McCain is coming to finish off what’s left.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:00 PM
You got that part right for sure. But the rest I don’t agree with..the dems won’t get the south or win the general…we’re looking at a president Mcshame folks.
And that’s bad enough as it is.
If Mccain can steal the election when the VAST majority of the party hates him….he can certainly steal the general election also! Remember Washington state, louisiana, missouri,oklahoma?
SaintOlaf on March 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Those aren’t chills, and they aren’t running UP
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Funny!
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM
i know, it hurts. But don’t fear death. Liberty is dead. Guy’s like you? You’re next.
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Shouldn’t you be offing the family right about now and preparing your last stand in the Montana wilderness? Like you said, don’t fear death. Go out in a blaze of righteous glory against The Man.
Or continue to live your life as I suspect you will, secretly content in the knowledge that ‘Federal Death Squads of U.N. Chinese Soldiers™’ aren’t really going to drag you away some night.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM
YOU.
SAID.
IT.
Thanks, New Hampshire. You guys suck.
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM
McCain isnt the only republican running for office in the fall why stay home and hurt them all ?
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Gack!
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM
An image I’d rather not have.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM
I hate to disagree with the esteemed bloggers… but though Austin is certainly Obama Country, it looks to me (based on fundrace) that Houston and Dallas are at worst splits and at best minor Hill pickups.
Bradley effect?
Is it possible?
Is it possible our girl brings this off?
jdub on March 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Hang on and suffer, you want. Nothing to fear in death.
Liberty is dead.
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
I will. Only because he’s the lesser of the evils we have to choose from. I’m not happy about it.
So who you gonna pull the lever for?
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Wow - could there be a bigger tool than Ted “let’s apologize to CAIR” Strickland?
Answer: no.
Oh, crap! Someone dug up John Glenn.
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Is that John Glenn to Ted Strickland’s left?
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Amen! Besides, McCain will have a new adversary if elected President: Congress. Perhaps his love of sticking his finger in Republicans’ eyes can be transfered over to sticking his finger into the peepers of a Democratic Congress. I hope.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM
You obviously don’t count on a newer generation of GOP leaders coming up! There are lots of us under 40 who can - and will - take power someday. Heck! There’s a certain governor of a certain Southern state who looks like he can swipe the Electoral College someday! (Take a wild guess!)
This kind of pessimism sickens me.
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Most recent stuff is on bottom.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Me? I read Shakespeare. I do like Shakespeare advises, try to live my life to the fullest and survive. Guys like you, you live in denial and constant struggle of your insignificance.
Think what you want. While you can. Because…
(Do I really have to say it again!!!) LIberty is dead.
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
I love hearing Obama’s campaign spin this! Barack and Michelle Obama don’t say more stuff that all of us mis-interpret than any couple short of the Clintons!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Pax Americana - Got your fingers crossed?
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Anybody ever seen Red Dawn?
I can hear Ron Reagan now.
“AVENGE ME! AVENGE ME!”
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Hear that sound? Its the wind whooshing of the ‘Hopeful Change for Audacity Tour Balloon 2008′.
What a shame. I hope B.O. enjoyed the view while he had it.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I think you’ve made your point.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I’m watching this one.
Connie on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM
You must be a democrat or a paulian
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Liberty is NOT Dead because of ONE election! Gimme a break!
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Yeah, you’re all a bunch of moping losers.
I kid because I love.
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM
No, see, you are just not paying attention: McCain-Feingold / McCain-Kennedy. Why would he poke the eyes of his REAL friends????
Sigh….
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM
That kind of thinking is one reserved for funerals! We’re not dead yet!
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:13 PM
When I say “Bobby”, you say “Jindal”.
Bobby Jindal.
When I say “2012″, you say “Jindal/Palin”.
2012, Jindal/Palin.
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Anybody ever seen Red Dawn?
I saw it, though I can’t understand why the Russians didn’t clobber the hill with artillery after their ‘Seeker Probe’ unit was wiped out.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Sorry, I thought my attempt at humor was decent, but I guess I ought to use emoticons. :P (Unless HA has a ban on them or something).
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM
I have said time and time again…Hillary! does not need your help.
A very small win would have been fun, but right now she has her 20% in Ohio.
Never Play With Fire, You Might Get Burned.
Dorvillian on March 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM
What are the odds we don’t hear from Bill until … say .. mid November?
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Not McCain. Probably a third party protest. He’ll carry the state I’m in probably anyway. I refuse to pretend with Juan McCain and would rather fight socialists.
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Ditto.
mikeyboss on March 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Gloom, despair, and agony on me.
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery.
If it weren’t for bad luck, I’d have no luck at all.
Gloom, despair, and agony on me.
Connie on March 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I hope all the crossovers for Her Inevitableness don’t get bit in the you-know-what…. Can’t you just see her backing into the nomination, and Bloomberg throwing his hat in to split the anti-Clinton vote?
.
In other bad news, Ron Paul is still leading in the race to hold his congressional seat….
Think_b4_speaking on March 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM
It’s been a series of elections, since 1912. Jeez, does anyone hear read real history!?!?!?!
And don’t forget, Reagan raised taxes to preserve FDR’s progrom, social security (now, if there ever was a antithesis to liberty…).
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I think when McCain actually starts explaining the situation to these meatheads on the left during the debates that this will be even less of an issue.
Vigilante on March 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM
The republican party is dead.
Our nominee Juan Pedro Mcshame is not even a republican.
To give the traitor a little credit he did say he is a liberal republican ok.
SaintOlaf on March 4, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Hey BOBBY!
Could you imagine? Jindal trumps all the dem race-pimps by being conservative and non-white? I would pay big caysh to see them spin their non-support of that guy.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:16 PM
That’s why I didn’t bother wasting my vote for Hillary!
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Only 1% of Houston’s precints are reporting however
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Local Dallas news…
some Dem caucus locations had NO DNC rep. People were left to figure out how to conduct a caucus on their own. LOL….
the local DNC rep said they just didn’t have enough precinct captains to go around.
Dallas County 15 % reporting 60-35 Obama
Tarrant County 15% reporting 61-34 Obama
Limerick on March 4, 2008 at 11:16 PM
My one true love! Discovered at last!!!!
Smoochies
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:16 PM
That would have been fun to watch.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Glad I could cheer you up a bit. Now take a deep breath or two. The country has survived some pretty bad elections in the past. Carter comes to mind.
cool breeze on March 4, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Things are cyclical. Tyranny is cast down, tyranny rises up. Liberty dies, and is born out of the ashes of its own death. The earth cools, the earth warms. Each generation thinks it sees everything in a unique time, with unique problems, and desire unique solutions. But the problems are the same, the solutions are the same, and the inevitable failures are always the same. We are the same people we were 4 thousand years ago. It’s the same earth it was 4 million years ago.
Of course what I’m saying has already been said before, too. Read Ecclesiastes. It was old, even then.
Eat. Drink. Be happy. Trust in God and keep your powder dry. Everything dies, regardless.
All of this is completely true, all of it is completely false. The past shapes the future just like the present shapes the past. Choose whichever you want, but know that even that choice is an illusion.
Almost as much of an illusion as the choice we have in candidates now.
But I’ll hold my nose and vote for McCain, regardless. I can safely justify a vote against either Hillary! or Obama!. Just don’t expect a vote for any of ‘em. That I can’t give.
TABoLK on March 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Hillary’s getting an Obama-like reception in Ohio.
Messillary?
Mark V. on March 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM
HILLARY: Thank you Ohio!
Me: Yeah. Thanks alot.
Ugly on March 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM
The republican party is dead.
It isn’t dead, its just suffering from a bit of malaise. There are still real conservatives in the houses and if anything, a McCain presidency will make it even more important that we support real conservatives in the chambers.
Buck up little camper, the same things were being said after Perot screwed-up the race in 1992.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Hildawg is about to rub BO’s nose in it. Time for BO to roll up his sleeves and get nasty with the big nasty.
swami on March 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Hillary: As Ohio goes so goes the nation.
Ugh. Let’s hope not.
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM
All of this is completely true, all of it is completely false. The past shapes the future just like the present shapes the past. Choose whichever you want, but know that even that choice is an illusion.
Whoa…I feel a sudden need to listen to some Pink Floyd.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Ohio governor, during Hillary’s intro, just said “Onward to Michigan and Florida. Heh. Fox guys had a ball with it.
a capella on March 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Honestly, as much as it turns my stomach, I can handle 4 years of Hill much more than 4 minutes of Obama.
Anything to get him to crawl back under his damned rock.
yo on March 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Sure. Okay. BELIEVE all you want. Nothing wrong with that.
Still…
…one last time…
Liberty…is…dead.
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Huh. Drudge still has Hillary up by 17,000+ votes, despite big cities now reporting.
amerpundit on March 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM
no yeeeeaaarrrg moment dangitall
trailortrash on March 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Cat fight!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM
“Yes she can! Yes she can!”
Hey Obama, would you like some ice for that burn?
darii on March 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Kewl. Sounds like “Lost.”
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM
This kind of pessimism sickens me.
newton on March 4, 2008 at 11:11 PM
It has nothing to do with pessimism it has everything to do with the Rep party being bought and paid for by the rich fat cats. the sameones that nolonger have the American interest at heart. they have moved on to become international. Until Kstreet is wiped out we are toast. I understand why the border hasn’t been secured, I understadn why we are in Iraq, and I understand why the economy sucks for a large portion of America. and the reason is the same for all cases.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Back up to 20,600 lead according to Drudge.
amerpundit on March 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Ew, and she’s wearing power red, too! I wonder if Obama will wear a red tie…or will Michelle wear a red dress?
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Limbaugh is going to have a field day with tonights results. Congratulations Ohio, you’ve treated America to a real catfight.
swami on March 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Liberty…is…dead.
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:21 PM
and the murderer was P.C.
unseen on March 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
AMEN
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Really? MY GOD MAN ARE YOU MAD???
Ugly on March 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Ok. Great. So, exactly how do you intend to fight?
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Does this now mean the press will actually take a harder look at the messiah?
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
LOL. I’m watching Nader bi**h about getting on the ballot on the Daily Show.
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Man on man Hillary almost up by 20,000 votes
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Hey you HotAirHeads …………
This is Perfect.
The Dems are playing right into our hands.
fogw on March 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Another local Dallas news report…….Both B and H camps have lawyers looking into the Dallas County caucus fiasco…
Limerick on March 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM
But it didn’t survive. Tha’s my point. You hear her now? (Gack!!!) Universal healthcare, good money for the poor just like the rich.
God, I’ve gotta’ puke.
We’re dead. Liberty is dead.
‘Scuse me, I’m going to go enjoy my life, now…by kicking in that smug mug on my tv!
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Oh no Hillary diddent! She said she looks forward to debating McCain! LMAO!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Hillary up by 23,000 votes
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM
All right then….who is the remaining candidate who will oppose amnesty and will not sell out our sovereignty??
Anyone?
–crickets–
SaintOlaf on March 4, 2008 at 11:27 PM
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