Open thread: Armageddon; Update: Huckabee concedes; Update: McCain clinches; Update: Hillary wins Ohio; Update: Hillary wins Texas
posted at 5:54 pm on March 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Exit polls are just starting to trickle in. Nothing yet by way of hard data but — surprise — voters in both Texas and Ohio find Obama to be more electable, per Fox News. We’ve had the first reports of dirty tricks too, courtesy of pro-Hillary TalkLeft. And Huck is complaining about the lack of energy on behalf of McCain among the GOP base, even as Maverick prepares to put him to sleep tonight and turn his attention fully to the, ahem, purple states.
Ed and I are going to try to co-liveblog it via the Cover It Live widget below. (Thanks to Patrick Ishmael for the tip.) It’s our first time using it so bear with us. Things should heat up starting at 7 p.m. ET. While you wait, enjoy the results of this poll suggesting whom voters really trust at 3 a.m. Exit quotation one: “I didn’t get my hands dirty making all those good things happen in the ’90s.” Exit quotation two: America is a country that’s “just downright mean.”
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Is he bucking for VP, or what????
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Extremists are always shocked when they discover the majority of the voting public are not also extremists.
Moderates win and extremists scratch their heads, trying to figure out what happened, time and time again.
JayHaw Phrenzie on March 4, 2008 at 9:33 PM
He was just 35 when in 1996 he won his first bid for
political office. Even many of his staunchest supporters, such as
Black, still resent the strong-arm tactics Obama employed to win his
seat in the Illinois Legislature.
Obama hired fellow Harvard Law alum and election law expert Thomas
Johnson to challenge the nominating petitions of four other candidates,
including the popular incumbent, Alice Palmer, a liberal activist who
had held the seat for several years, according to an April 2007 Chicago
Tribune report.
Obama found enough flaws in the petition sheets — to appear on the
ballot, candidates needed 757 signatures from registered voters living
within the district — to knock off all the other Democratic
contenders. He won the seat unopposed.
Source: Hustonpress.com writer that lived doors down from BHO in Illinois
WoosterOh on March 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Dont count Obama out in Ohio yet. not ONE vote has come in yet from Cuyahoga county
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
I guess what I was trying to say is how disgusted I am with how the power brokers use the media to steer and dumb down the masses, as well as sensationalizing non-events and giving celebrity status to politicians that they control.
Example, in the latest poll 70-80% of Americans feel that ILLEGAL Immigration is a problem, but in all the debates, what have they been talking about, Immigration, not ILLEGAL Immigration.
And even tonight, the pundits, “…. well this just proves immigration isn’t the hot topic it used to be.” Notice again, no word on ILLEGAL Immigration.
It is subtle, but so effective…. the “nashing of my teeth” has been a continuous process, phroniesis, just getting a chance to vent the steam……..
Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Hickabee will be back in four years to tour the country with a “Kick Me” sign on his back again.
MITT 2012
Greenhorn on March 4, 2008 at 9:34 PM
JayHaw Phrenzie on March 4, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Well said, we can only pray that this remains the norm!
dmann on March 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Ditto to you there…
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Hey Pill, Wherever You Are;
I’m gonna miss you!
I wasn’t on board with you, but you were a class act!
Cheers!
Saltysam on March 4, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Huckabee gives a good speech (like BO?) but he was a whiney spoiled sport and I’m glad to see him go.
He poked Romney for no reason just because he is a wealthy, good lookin’ guy. His anti-mormonism was reprehensible. Christian leader my a$$. Good riddance.
ctmom on March 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Because he’s a prick. He should have dropped out instead of Romney. He set up backroom deals with McCain from day one. WV was the biggest, most ridiculous of these deals. Huckabee and McShamnesty…teaming up to silence the conservatives.
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Dang,
JOE CIMPERMAN 6954
BARBARA ANNE FERRIS 1360
DENNIS J. KUCINICH 13649
THOMAS E. O’GRADY 1467
ROSEMARY A. PALMER 1334
Not a good start
WoosterOh on March 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
So Sen. Juan Hennesey McVain is going to be for tax cuts now according to Hannity?
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 9:37 PM
“JayHaw Phrenzie on March 4, 2008 at 9:33 PM”
So….. wanting a canidate that promises to enforce the laws of the United States is extremist?
I’m not buying it, nor your arguement. Are union members who’s dues go to liberal democrats against thier wishes extremist if they have a different point of view? Are Latino voters in Southern California who want border enforcement extremists? No, I didn’t think so….
Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Let the lawsuits begin…
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I love the fact that she called Kucinich a warmonger because he hadnt stopped the war in Iraq,
heh
William Amos on March 4, 2008 at 9:39 PM
It is a sad day for America…
SaintOlaf on March 4, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Clintons never concede and walk away. This has been Hillary’s goal since entering politics, and she’s not just going to hand it over to some newcomer without a good fight.
amerpundit on March 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Collin County Texas…
Caucus starting 1 1/12 hour late. It is packed. 5 precincts voting in one place.
1st…alphabetical list to check in.
2nd…seperate into precincts
3rd…elect a caucus president
4th…elect a caucus secretary
5th…vote (by standing on different sides of a room)
Gonna be a LONG nite in Texas
Limerick on March 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
You are so correct and I so love this site!
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
There is NO way that Huckabee will be veep. Again, McCain’s veep choice, whomever it turns out to be, won’t play any major role in his administration. McCain’s too much of a leader…any veep won’t be similar to, say, Cheney’s role in Bush’s admin.
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
amen to that!!
Roger Waters on March 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Sean’s actually making a nice little speech.
Connie on March 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
I’ve heard all I need from him, thank you.
fourstringfuror on March 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Finally, Huckabee is gone.
Chatting here!
Rightwingsparkle on March 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
I love Pringles…but not with politics.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Bam’s bringing to bear the lessons of “winning” elections he learned in Chicago.
yo on March 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Cuyhoga County early numbers
HILLARY CLINTON 30,076
BARACK OBAMA 28,486
WoosterOh on March 4, 2008 at 9:43 PM
I swear…I am really excited for a McCain presidency. I truly believe he’ll surprise all the conservatives who think him too much a “liberal”. Just my thoughts, but McCain will be far more conservative as POTUS than he ever was in the Senate.
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
That’s why we just need to sit back and enjoy the show. It’s gonna be a good one!
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:44 PM
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Cheney’s role is unusual, period. Wouldn’t you agree?
Saltysam on March 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
CBS reporting that the earlier report of 10% Rep crossover votes is under reported. Dallas estimate is 20-25%!!!!
Question is….for who? O or H?
Limerick on March 4, 2008 at 9:46 PM
I’m not quite sure what you mean by “unusual”
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I am going to down an entire bottle of Islay scotch…I can’t believe I am actually rooting for the Dragon Lady to win.
If it weren’t for the Pringle-high I am currently sustaining, might have gone to the bottle much earlier.
Bishop on March 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
McCain needs to pick a woman or a minority as his VP. I know, I know…Identity politics. But, the last think we need is two old white guys running on the GOP side…again.
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Cindy McCain looking lovely in pastel! WOWZA! And I’m not even straight!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 9:48 PM
What in the world are you drinking??? I am looking forward to him having another breakdown after losing in 2000 in primary and losing in general in 2008. He is a fool.
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Amazingly, both.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Humility? McCain? Excuse me while I hurl.
steveegg on March 4, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Regular pringles, or sour cream and onion?
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:49 PM
McShamnesty just gave “independent-thinking Democrats” a shout out. Excuse me while I puke
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 9:49 PM
heh…I totally agree!
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Not as big a fool as Obama or Billary.
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Give us a bone, McCain! Slam the democrats!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
SG, pastels aren’t just for straight guys anymore! ;)
mikeyboss on March 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Thanks, Mike. You tried to help Americans take back their nation. To reestablish our freedom—our God-given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We were with you in the beginning, and as you leave, we remain with you still. You didn’t lose. You won.
apacalyps on March 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
You get the garbage can; I’ve already claimed the porcelain throne :-)
steveegg on March 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:47 PM
In your context. Cheney’s “major role” in the Bush administration is not normal for most VPs.
Saltysam on March 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
How can you guys not have the utmost respect and admiration for John McCain? I just don’t get it. Don’t even start with “McAmnesty”…because McCain is NOT for amnesty.
I really believe McCain is the true legacy of the Reagan revolution. Call me crazy, but you’ll see.
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM
McCain and Cindy just didn’t think they had any responsibility to his first wife…
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 9:52 PM
At least she waited until after March 1st to pull out the spring clothes…
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:52 PM
I still cannot believe we wound up with McC as the gop nominee.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Holy, Obamalamamamma! Hillary is closing fast in Texas!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 9:52 PM
John’s gotta brush up on his teleprompter skills.
yo on March 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Anyone’s hair standing on end by McCain’s speech? Saying the right words, quoting Regan, seemingly willing to compromise with the left……?
Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
OK…true dat. Heh, remember how Cheney got the nod for veep…he was originally the one in charge of finding a veep.
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
and at least she has ditched the wicked witch of AZ ponytail….
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
If she wears white after Labor Day I’m SOOOOOOOOO not going to vote for McCain!
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
I hope you’re right. I hope you’re right.
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Polls STILL open in “obama” counties in OH.
WTF!!?
James on March 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Polls close statewide for a reason. Allow changes to the rules of the game, and people will exploit it…
James on March 4, 2008 at 9:54 PM
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Cheney isn’t stupid.
Saltysam on March 4, 2008 at 9:54 PM
If she wears white shoes EVER, it’s totally OVER for me. :)
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:54 PM
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Right. Giving legalization (oh, there’s a small fine!) to millions of law breakers isn’t amnesty. Let’s not start this debate, as many people just came into McCain’s camp and can easily be driven right out.
Who’s we, Kemosabe? Huck was a nanny-stater, tax-raising ignoramus.
amerpundit on March 4, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Why does John McCain look like a presenter at the Oscar Awards, reading off of the prompter, but not truly believing what he is saying?
Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Obama stuck around Chi-town longer than Clinton, so he’s the agent of
changefraud.steveegg on March 4, 2008 at 9:56 PM
It would look so much better if McCain was reading from notes and not a teleprompter. It really IS like the Oscars in that it’s obvious the presenter doesn’t seem to have seen the material before, or at least has only seen it once.
SouthernGent on March 4, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Not a difference among the three of them. Tax cuts good now?
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 9:56 PM
I really like the new live blogging widget. Enjoying the play by play coverage. Great addition!
ElvisX3K on March 4, 2008 at 9:56 PM
‘Cause he’s a fraud and a sham when it comes down to it. He is so for amnesty. You know dang well that if that immigration bill he concocted had passed, no changes would have really been made in the border. Nor is anyone going to gather up all the illegal aliens, deport them when their new-fangled work cards expire, and make them “get in line like everybody else.” Even now, as the MSM suppresses everything about the border to protect BOTH political sides, the so-called border wall is being phased it.
Liberty is dead…get used to it.
mksmithwriter on March 4, 2008 at 9:57 PM
The Democratic Convention:
MOTHER OF ALL FIGHTING FOR THE LIBERAL PARTY’S SOUL!
And before the main fight,their will be infighting.
The Anti War group will be waterboarding each other!
The Femenazi’s will be engaged in mud wrestling event.
The enviromental groups will be calling Al Gore and
taking him to task over the Global Cooling!
And there will be a paid per view,with Gloria Steinem
on how the Liberal Party screwed the Liberal women over!
hahahaha!
canopfor on March 4, 2008 at 9:57 PM
I hope McCain adds Romney to the ticket so Rommey can work on fixing our currency problem.
That would be the true downfall our of country and economy if this problem does not get fixed in the next few years
Lance Murdock on March 4, 2008 at 9:58 PM
11% in TIE o and h
Limerick on March 4, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Limerick on March 4, 2008 at 9:58 PM
A tie works for me!
Saltysam on March 4, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Will Mav score tonight?
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 4, 2008 at 9:59 PM
At this point, I’d like to hear what he thinks about the impending Citibank failure?? Everyone is worried about healthcare when they should be worried about whether or not their money is safe in American banks. Just my 2 cents…
McCain, whatcha’ gonna do about the solvency of our banking system?
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 9:59 PM
This is pretty fun, not really caring either way how the Tic race turns out. But just for good measure, go Hillary!
Jeff_McAwesome on March 4, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Jericho is on. Bye bye….
malan89 on March 4, 2008 at 10:00 PM
So, you think despair is what we need now?
mikeyboss on March 4, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Well, Citibank is FDIC insured, so if they go under, people’s accounts are safe up to 100 grand. Although that would be a hefty bill for the government to foot.
Jeff_McAwesome on March 4, 2008 at 10:01 PM
The People don’t trust you, McVain…
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Ugh! He’s got some good writers, but his delivery is stiff.
yo on March 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM
It’s never too late to do a drinking game :-)
steveegg on March 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM
You’re wrong on McCain and amnesty. But true…I won’t argue this now.
Sorry…I’m an American optimist, realist, conservative, and very very proud that John McCain is the GOP nominee. The man is the real deal.
JetBoy on March 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Maybe I am just getting da fevah, but after hearing the straight talk express tonight, I think he has a chance at cleaning empty suit’s clock.
lsutiger on March 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM
The GOP voters have spoken. McCain is a super choice for POTUS. The pseuds can now go to hell.
McCain 2008.
Pax americana on March 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM
You got that right!
Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2008 at 10:02 PM
is it just me or does it look like McCain’s suit jacket doesn’t fit him right?
Lance Murdock on March 4, 2008 at 10:03 PM
No, reality is what we need and MKS is correct!
Branch Rickey on March 4, 2008 at 10:03 PM
This American trusts him just a little more than Hil or the Big O. He’s not my first choice, by a longshot, but he’s the least offensive of the choices we have available.
techno_barbarian on March 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Tell me about it, I voted for Hillary earlier today. It was one of the most traumatic events of my life.
TexasBella on March 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Substantively that was a good speech from McCain. Even seemed decent on free market ideas. He certainly isn’t an orthodox conservative, but he’s still far better than the alternative.
phronesis on March 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM
What’s the name of the one where you bang on the table and do funny hand signs?
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM
SOOOOO LONG SUCKABEE!!
ihasurnominashun on March 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM
The speech, the event, the forced smiles on everyone, this just feels sooooooo not right.
Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM
I respectfully disagree.
mikeyboss on March 4, 2008 at 10:04 PM
It’s alright, really. You’re among friends.
(just don’t do it, again)
yo on March 4, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Bar Fight? :-)
steveegg on March 4, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I couldn’t do it. My kids were watching. Watching Mom vote for a democrat would have been the same as having them watch porn. It’s just not right.
I admire your courage.
pullingmyhairout on March 4, 2008 at 10:06 PM
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