Open thread: Armageddon; Update: Huckabee concedes; Update: McCain clinches; Update: Hillary wins Ohio; Update: Hillary wins Texas
posted at 5:54 pm on March 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Exit polls are just starting to trickle in. Nothing yet by way of hard data but — surprise — voters in both Texas and Ohio find Obama to be more electable, per Fox News. We’ve had the first reports of dirty tricks too, courtesy of pro-Hillary TalkLeft. And Huck is complaining about the lack of energy on behalf of McCain among the GOP base, even as Maverick prepares to put him to sleep tonight and turn his attention fully to the, ahem, purple states.
Ed and I are going to try to co-liveblog it via the Cover It Live widget below. (Thanks to Patrick Ishmael for the tip.) It’s our first time using it so bear with us. Things should heat up starting at 7 p.m. ET. While you wait, enjoy the results of this poll suggesting whom voters really trust at 3 a.m. Exit quotation one: “I didn’t get my hands dirty making all those good things happen in the ’90s.” Exit quotation two: America is a country that’s “just downright mean.”
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Didn’t watch it, but I guess she saw John McCain’s wife during his speech, along with size of her pearl necklace, and maybe didn’t dress for the occasion ……..
Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Yeah, Democrat and Independent voters.
Her pathetic campaign might be starting to resonate with her base, while Obama is just now starting to be questioned about his policies.
It looks like cross-over voters played a much bigger role in this primary than anyone could have foreseen, if the Democrats figure that out then Hillary won’t gain too much momentum.
A bloody battle does us good, but a party suddenly unified behind the Clinton’s is a fate worse than death.
Dorvillian on March 5, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Amen, and LOL.
RushBaby on March 5, 2008 at 12:32 AM
ELEVEN!!!!!!!!
Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2008 at 12:32 AM
No…but it is workable. I’ve a couple of web sites that I can get a temp e-mail address to you, then I’ll send it down the rabbit hole with the kitty litter.
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Fogw, this is a serious matter. Let’s be real. We all know Texas implemented a rousing game of discus throwing in place of dart throwing several years back.
amerpundit on March 5, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Rush Baby,Texas, and its snowing up here,hey
ya know the locks,well Soo,Michigan is seperated
from Soo,Canada by St.Marys River,less than a 1/4
mile,so it’s hardly a border,but border non the less!
canopfor on March 5, 2008 at 12:33 AM
TIT FOR TAT: Obama gets this bs win in Texas because of the idiotic system, but we ratify Florida and Michigan for her. All settled.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 12:33 AM
You went there…again. LOL
SouthernGent on March 5, 2008 at 12:33 AM
SouthernGent
That deserves a ding.
In fact, several of them…
ding, ding, ding, ding. The best comment on the page!
Thanks for the laugh.
rockhauler on March 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM
I’m still enjoying the sustain, TYVM.
TexasDan on March 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Rachel Maddow
:)
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Last time I will have the chance…….. for now. Glad you noticed.
Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2008 at 12:35 AM
What makes you think “the party” will be unified behind Hillary? You have been watching the primaries, haven’t you?
Half of this country’s Democrats can’t stand the witch, and all of this country’s Republicans wouldn’t give her the time of day.
Bring it on Hill.
fogw on March 5, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Drop your blogging and grab your “Learning Spanish for Dummies” Gringo nativists as my poco perro viejo Juan el Vengativo will soon be el Presidente de America del Norte!
VinyFoxy on March 5, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Good, and same here. Let’s look for another opportunity another night? I am using a machine not set up for email.
RushBaby on March 5, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Dos cervezas, por favor.
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:39 AM
SouthernGent
rockhauler on March 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM
That’s the voice. I’ll never hear Susan Estrogen the same!
Saltysam on March 5, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Yep. As long as a large percentage of Obama’s followers blame Hillary for stealing the nomination, then we’re good to go.
darii on March 5, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Why VinyFoxy, welcome to the United States of America… Que Lastima, there is still a country called “Mexico” (/sarc)
Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Ok. I’ve got one site in mothballs. I’ll reactivate it sometime in the next week or so and let you know.
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM
I’m trying to figure out what y’all are talking about…are you dating?
samuelrylander on March 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Hillary has Gov. Rendell in Pennsylvania. Could be the Trump card.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Shhhhh…we work for Diebold.
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Con o sin limon, Hombre?
VinyFoxy on March 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Keep looking, someday you will find the perfect politician and then you can feel good voting for them. I believe such a person was last seen…ummm…never, but don’t let that get in the way of pie-in-the-sky righteousness.
Bishop on March 5, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Yeah your right, It is too much to expect our leaders to do their job, put american interest above their own, follow the will of the people, subsitute time instead of cash to win elections, and to forswear taking bribes for votes, taking expensive junkets around the world with our money, giving cushy jobs to their friends and to show up at hearings, votes etc.
So now expecting someone to come to work and do the job we pay them for, to not commit criminal acts while on the job, to not lie, cheat and steal is “pie-in-the-sky righteousness”. I see.
unseen on March 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Say the right stuff on this blog and you will be invited to the prom, too. What can I say? Some of us just…get along.
RushBaby on March 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Pennsylvania
RCP Average 02/09 - 02/26 - 46.0 37.0 Clinton +9.0
Sweet!!!
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 12:44 AM
chuckle
samuelrylander on March 5, 2008 at 12:44 AM
It’s nice to know.
darii on March 5, 2008 at 12:45 AM
darii on March 5, 2008 at 12:39 AM
I think you guys are wrong about this. Hillary needs Obama for VP. That takes care of that problem.
The best thing to happen out of this, is that this fight drags on and Obama wins. Hillary does all the things to Obama that the GOP will not be able to get away with, and then she fades away.
Obama does not need Hillary for VP.
Saltysam on March 5, 2008 at 12:45 AM
Limon con Dos X ok. Bud, no. (My Spanglish is VERY limited).
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:45 AM
Con limon, por favor! ~Noviembre.
RushBaby on March 5, 2008 at 12:46 AM
CBS CALLS TEXAS FOR HILLARY!
amerpundit on March 5, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Soon now Gringo, it will be los Estados Unidos de Mayor Mexico!
VinyFoxy on March 5, 2008 at 12:46 AM
¡Brillante!
Branch Rickey on March 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Fox too.
mikeyboss on March 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Fox Too.
fogw on March 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM
fox calls in for Hillary. Fight!
phronesis on March 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Hildabeast wins TX. My Mother-in-law will be happy. Hahahahahaha
Branch Rickey on March 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Yikes!
fogw on March 5, 2008 at 12:47 AM
You must learn more Spanish then Hombre. You do not want to disappoint Juan now do you?
VinyFoxy on March 5, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Local ABC is saying Hillary’s popular vote win means nothing…nothing!…(they shill for Barry daily here).
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Oh, my! She did it! Rush’s show tomorrow/today should be a hoot!
SouthernGent on March 5, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Selected not elected?
phronesis on March 5, 2008 at 12:49 AM
My first wife was Costa Rican (and my 2 kids 1/2 Costa Rican). They speak it great. Me…..just ask Allah, I have enough trouble with English.
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:50 AM
CNN online is tentatively calling the primary for Hillary as well.
darii on March 5, 2008 at 12:50 AM
Obama only wins Communist Vermont. Yeah, he can beat a War Hero.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 12:50 AM
SouthernGent on March 5, 2008 at 12:49 AM
I can’t wait to hear the queens on MSNBC explain how Rush is so powerful when he’s irrelevant.
Saltysam on March 5, 2008 at 12:51 AM
This is going to be one heck of a fight for the Democrats.
Holy Moley…
I look for a Deadlocked Convention or a Brokered Convention.
Amazing….. The one thing they were saying about the Republicans, happened to the Democrats.
Wow!
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 5, 2008 at 12:51 AM
OK, that does it for Obama. The dream is dead. Watch him start to tank now.
bnelson44 on March 5, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Solo por usted Senora.
VinyFoxy on March 5, 2008 at 12:51 AM
THE CHOSEN ONEI CHOSE JUAN may be able to help in that department. Kewl.Branch Rickey on March 5, 2008 at 12:51 AM
See what can happen when you put der Slickmeister on a leash.
Hey, where’s Billy Jeff?
fogw on March 5, 2008 at 12:52 AM
I hope you’re right, but I just don’t think they work that way. The media will become Hillary’s cheerleader - they’ll fall in line.
Dorvillian on March 5, 2008 at 12:52 AM
By the way, CHOSEN ONE and VinyFoxy, looks like things in the Republic of Mexico, i.e. no guns, socialism, feudalism, Corruption, don’t let the facts get in your way…. seems like a perfect way to live?
Cerveza, Si!
Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Chris Mathews looks like someone stole his car and kicked his dog.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 12:53 AM
I believe they shipped him up to Rhode Island for the past few days.
darii on March 5, 2008 at 12:54 AM
The DNC-Texas set up the Dem process here. It has three tiers….
1.Popular Vote = some delegates
2.Caucus = some delegates
3.Super-delegates
Counties with HISTORICAL records of strong Dem support receive MORE weight, in the delegate count, then Rep districts. So in one county you might have 50,000 votes = 5 delegates, but the next county might have 50,000 votes = 7 delegates.
Don’t blame it on Texas. Blame it on the DNC.
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:54 AM
ROFL
darii on March 5, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Wow, just when it looked like it was over…
The_Freeze on March 5, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Nah, There will be a big fight, Superdelegates and alot of muscle.
Watch, it will happen.
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 5, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Yeah, you’re probably right; the media obviously isn’t going to shill for Johnny MacDaddy. And Hillary will try to channel all of the anti-Bush sentiment, which the nutroots Obama supporters like the Kossacks have in droves.
darii on March 5, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Then there’s the all-important Munchkin Land primary, which actually decides 2/3 of a delegate per single usual delegate. But only on a Tuesday, and if they ate fish for lunch.
amerpundit on March 5, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Just drove home and heard on the radio that there are still people standing in line outside caucus places that have not even gotten in yet. It is freaking midnight for God’s sake!
People are calling in from all around the state saying it is mass “chaos”.
Vigilante on March 5, 2008 at 12:56 AM
He looks like that, when he’s tired. His humor gets goofy too.
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 5, 2008 at 12:57 AM
No we can’t! ….just sayin
gator70 on March 5, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Would that be the same media Hillary banished to sit next to urinals and toilets while covering her campaign?
:)
fogw on March 5, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Time for Hillary to get serious about Michigan/Florida and initiate legal action, otherwise those voters will be cheated of their rights to elect representation. No reason to wait. Start the seething!!
a capella on March 5, 2008 at 12:57 AM
That’s Texas. One of the cigar smoke states.
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Looks like the widget crew is calling it quits. Goodnight all!
Vigilante on March 5, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Good job guys… Goodnight, see you all tomorrow.
WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on March 5, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Muchas gracias, muchacha!
RushBaby on March 5, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Sure, get us addicted then cut off the biddy…..
Branch Rickey on March 5, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Heck, if she doesn’t need them, I say let the DNC disenfanchise them.
steveegg on March 5, 2008 at 12:59 AM
I would put the one who has chosen himself on my payroll except that although his corazon is on my and Juan’s side his cerebro seems to be out to almuerzo most of the time.
VinyFoxy on March 5, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Well, that’s all for me tonight. It’s been a strangely fun night; Good night all.
amerpundit on March 5, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Good Night everyone…… thanks for the debate…..
Seven Percent Solution on March 5, 2008 at 1:01 AM
out to almuerzo
mostall of the time.VinyFoxy on March 5, 2008 at 12:59 AM
fixed
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Haven’t seen the widget for a couple of hours now. Thanks to crew, all the same.
RushBaby on March 5, 2008 at 1:02 AM
Yeah it was fun. Thanks HA.
Nite all. Poker After Dark takes priority over the primary.
Limerick on March 5, 2008 at 1:03 AM
Good night!
RushBaby on March 5, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Now that Hillary is on her way to stealing this one, no need to reach out to Conservatives. Hillary will get em to the polls. Now, Mav can go ahead and give Lindsey Graham the phone call tomorrow and complete the ticket. Yes, I love the smell of Victory and Nepalm in the morning.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Ah, Chris M. doesn’t know the singular of “kudos” is “kudos”.
mikeyboss on March 5, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Goodnite Mom. : )
Texyank on March 5, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Mitt Romenee is pissed right now.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 1:06 AM
‘Nite to all of you in eastern/central time zones! It’s 10:07 here. :)
darii on March 5, 2008 at 1:07 AM
My younger brother’s summery of tonight’s results:
“Can I say owned? Yes I can.”
darii on March 5, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Sweet, PMSNBC is talking about how Puerto Rico is the last primary!!!! Not kidding. lol . It has more delegates than real states like Oregon and South Dakota!!!! I can’t make this stuff up!!!!
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 1:09 AM
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 1:05 AM
You no like conservatives?
Saltysam on March 5, 2008 at 1:10 AM
You no like conservatives?
Saltysam on March 5, 2008 at 1:10 AM
The vicious attacking ones, no, not really. It’s not very “conservative” in my mind to be condemning, holier than thou, and spiteful. Now, mind you that those only make up probably 5% of Conservatives, but man are they loud.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 1:14 AM
It’s not very “conservative” in my mind to be condemning, holier than thou, and spiteful.
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 5, 2008 at 1:14 AM
I agree, it’s much more “moderate”.
Saltysam on March 5, 2008 at 1:20 AM
By his stripes we are healed.
29Victor on March 5, 2008 at 1:23 AM
So you mean liberal?
darii on March 5, 2008 at 1:23 AM
Huzzah!
loganthompson on March 5, 2008 at 1:25 AM
(as a bass drum heart-beat fades)… there’s no dark side of the moon, really. As a matter o’ fact it’s all dark.
TABoLK on March 5, 2008 at 1:26 AM
darii on March 5, 2008 at 1:23 AM
Before I stuck my tongue into my cheek…yes.
Saltysam on March 5, 2008 at 1:28 AM
;D
darii on March 5, 2008 at 1:31 AM
I didn’t have the huevos (or stomach) to cross over and vote for Hillary.
I do, however, salute those who did so, under the wise tutelege of El Jefe Rush.
Now all I would like would be septagenarian McCain actually for once do something intelligent and name a young hardcore charismatic conservative as a running mate (NOT that stupid Crist). Then go on to win the general election at which point the immutable actuarial countdown should soon take care of all of the conservative Republicans’ problems…
TexasJew on March 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
TexasJew on March 5, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Wow, that’s cold.
Count me in.
Saltysam on March 5, 2008 at 2:21 AM
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