I’ll make it easy for you: where does God, in the Bible, order Christians to kill anyone?

Akzed on March 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM

The Bible doesn’t say it, but Jesus implies it when at his arrest in the Garden he tells Peter that if his kingdom were of this world he would fight.

So, show me some evidence and I will be convinced. If “God” is everywhere then evidence should abound.

deewhybee on March 4, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Why should anyone “show you” something that you obviously have not cared enough to search for yourself? If you had you probably wouldn’t be making these silly requests. The evidence of God’s existence is EVERYWHERE!!!

I was speaking of religion and you narrow things down to Christianity as though Christianity is all encompassing of religion when it is just one of many.

I can’t help but notice that even if “God” didn’t order anyone to kill anyone, many people take it upon themselves to do it for their god. If that is not a negative effect of religion I would like to know what qualifies. Religion provides an unaccountable anthropomorphic fiction people can use to justify horrible behavior. Religion demands that adherents abandon reason.

Consensus is not the basis for reality. If most people believe the world is flat it does not make the world flat. God does not exist because of popular opinion. So, show me some evidence and I will be convinced. If “God” is everywhere then evidence should abound.

First we need evidence for the existence of “God” before we can realistically charge him/her/it with anything. It’s been thousands of years and so far, nothing.
deewhybee on March 4, 2008 at 4:10 PM

You’re changing the subject. You were being critical of the deliterious effects of religion, not God’s existence. You lose points for trotting out a straw man.

So I reiterate, where does God, in the Bible, order Christians to kill anyone? Even if He didn’t actually exist, He’s a character in the Bible. The Christian religion is based on the Bible. So please tell us where God (or the author who made Him up) orders Christians to kill anyone.

Furthermore, since 90% of humans are theists of some kind, it is incumbant upon the atheist to explain himself. So please, since you declare that there is no God, tell us where you have looked for Him and infallibly found Him to be absent. I doubt that your search was exhaustive. In fact, I doubt that you’ve searched at all.

I’ll make it easy for you: where does God, in the Bible, order Christians to kill anyone?
Akzed on March 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM

You really should have specified that as the New Testament.

Key word: “Christians.”

It’s been thousands of years and so far, nothing.

I’ll make it easy for you: where does God, in the Bible, order Christians to kill anyone?

Akzed on March 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM

You really should have specified that as the New Testament.

Don’t expect Iraqis to convert en masse to Christianity.

mram on March 4, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Not en masse, but there is a lot happening there, and across the whole Arab world; it just doesn’t get talked about a lot because the cost of following Jesus there is so high. Thousands of people are becoming Christians in Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Algeria, Kazakhstan, the West Bank…many of them have dreams and visions of Jesus; I know some personally who this has happened to.

You want evidence? We’re talking about religion and you want evidence?

deewhybee on March 4, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Yeah. You could have supplied some rather than write that.

I’ll make it easy for you: where does God, in the Bible, order Christians to kill anyone?

You want evidence? We’re talking about religion and you want evidence?

For that reason, the American liberation tasted sweetest to the Shiites…

I’ll bet some editor loses his job over that slipping in there.

Unfortunatley, Osama and crew claim the same thing about muslims that don’t follow what they preach.
And, per Saddam, I would say that someone who has a Koran written in his own blood and constructed a mosque with his name inscribed on every brick is not what we would typically call a secularist.

Amy Proctor on March 4, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Amy, have you never spent any time at http://www.jihadwatch.org? You would find abundant proof there that OBL is a faithful Muslim according to the Koran and other authoritative Muslim writings, and those who see it as a “religion of peace” don’t know what they’re talking about.

Iraq as a secular state now is a myth.

But of course Iraqis are recoiling from what you called “jihadis”. People usually misunderstand jihad and confuse it with terrorism, but this, too, is a myth. What Iraqis are rejecting is not religion but BAD THEOLOGY, i.e., terrorism. There is a distinct difference. Taqfari are false Muslims… Osama bin Laden, suicide bombers, militias and insurgents are all taqfari who use hirabah, or acts of violence/terrorism against innocents. They are apostates.

We know that there are many good Muslim people in Iraq, including sheiks, clerics and imams. In fact, the war could NOT BE WON without them. The turning point in Anbar Province and the rest of Iraq came when clerics and sheiks got involved and turned against al-Qaeda, and that, of course, wouldn’t have happened without the U.S. assuring religious leaders in Anbar that we would stay in Iraq as long as it takes.

So as I understand it, Iraq is not secular by a long shot. Religion is booming in Iraq and was suppressed under Saddam.

If “God” does exist he should be tried for crimes against humanity and cruelty to animals.

deewhybee on March 4, 2008 at 1:22 PM

And what would be the evidence that God (as opposed to misguided or evil people claiming to act in God’s name) has ever committed a single criminal act against any person or animal?

It is impossible not to infer that the Bush Doctrine and the commitment of the men and women in uniform has facilitated this shift. Far from “creating more terrorists” as the failed cliché goes, the war has helped to nurture an appreciation for liberty among Iraqi youth.

Hope and change, no thanks to Barack Obama.

Maybe there’s hope for these babes yet?

First guy to figure out how to make the rest of the Muslim world ALL feel the same, WINS. And/or should win a billion dollars in prize money.

Not really any big news there…