Just voted for Hillary in Ohio. On a Diebold machine no less.

Sincerely,

A Limbaugh Democrat

miles on March 4, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Have a feeling that THIS is the ONLY reason Hillary is still standing

It’s midnight, but I’m going to go out on a limb and say ‘yes’. You can quote me.

;)

Taking one for the team just took on a whole new meaning. Hope the stench wash’s off soon. I’m not sure I could pull that trigger. As my fellow CQer Del said, banking on polls may be hazardous this entire season. Since the debacle of the VNS (voter news service) in 2000, we may see polsters with an agenda not to our liking.

Likewise with ARG, which predicted Hillary would win Iowa by double digits. ARG has also been spectacularly wrong in the past here in New Hampshire predicting results, which is scary considering that they are based here.

Hillary/Obama ticket would seem to be more likely with her on top (sorry for the visual), and she may just pull this out if she wins TX and OH. Oy.

MT on March 4, 2008 at 10:38 AM

I doubt that she`d want to share the stage with someone who`d outshine or upstage her,

Our polling place was a single room with a line of tables dividing it down the middle. Dem ballots to the left(which I thought appropriate), Rep ballots to the right. The line on the Dem side was about 25-30 deep. There were 3 voters at the voting booths to the right.

The caucus part of the Texas voting (Dems) starts at 7:15pm CST. Looks like it is going to be a late night here.

BTW, the elderly couple voted for Huck. My wife and I tried to talk them into the crossover strategy but I think all we accomplished was getting taken off their Christmas card list.

Whether this is too little, too late to deprive Obama of the Dem nomination remains to be seen, but if Hillary can win Ohio and stay in the race at least until Pennsylvania, the Democrats could end up not having a nominee until the convention. If all the states have their primaries and caucuses, and Obama has a very small lead among pledged delegates, and the super-delegates split about evenly, it’s possible that neither candidate reaches the threshold needed for nomination, and the Democrats will have to do something about Florida and Michigan.

If they allocate delegates based on the past results, Obama’s people will scream bloody murder, especially since Hillary was running against “uncommitted” in Michigan. If they run do-over primaries, who will have “momentum” by that time? Will there be more Rezko revelations to tarnish Obama by then?

The longer this race continues, the weaker the eventual nominee will be against McCain. If Hillary eventually wins the nomination, she’s got lots of baggage, and some disgruntled Obama supporters (especially blacks) might stay home for the general election. If Obama wins the nomination, there might be enough dirt against him reported by the media (which will report it if Hillary digs it up, but hide it if McCain digs it up) to knock him off his pedestal for the general election.

Either way, it would be better than Obama waltzing into the White House on a wing and a prayer of wishful thinking.

That’s all conventional wisdom and talking points. The facts on the ground, not thoughts up in the air, say things a little differently.

The Clinton’s have a machine in place that controls most of the press, TV, Hollywood, editorial pages etc. Probably half of all government employees owe the Clinton’s. Despite her negatives she will get 90% of the black vote and Jewish vote. After she promises free health care and amnesty she will get 75-80 of the Hispanic vote. With that she needs probably less than 40% of the white and Asian electorate.

She wins the election after her machine gets done with McCain and a VP candidate that he chooses who the independents may not like. For all the talk about a brokered convention every single democrat will vote for her along with the majority of independents–a group that decides all elections these last 30 years.

Obama, lacking a machine is much easier to defeat. As his cockeyed ramblings get more exposure McCain will have an easy time of it. Additionally many Clinton supporters will sit home secretly hoping that McCain wins so Hillary can run in 2012.

So to repeat, Dracula has to be killed at the earliest possible date.

Overall I guess it was good practice for voting for triceratops in November.

Obama’s very inexperience makes it difficult to hit him on the issues and to hit him on any other factor gets you immediately branded a racist.

Why does this mantra have the same ring as “Hillary is Inevitable” a few short months ago? Do you honestly think that lightweight empty suit will be able to smooth talk himself to the biggest affirmative action power grab in history?

Seriously?

I don’t get Rush’s reasoning. Let’s just get rid of hillary now and then run against the inexperienced hack politician with the connection to corruption in November.

Bill C on March 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM

1. Age factor. Obama is young, charismatic, and new. The GOP has a dried up old dinosaur who doesn’t even have the support of the party rank-and-file. On this factor, Clinton is also an uncharismatic dried up dinosaur who doesn’t have the support of her party. The contrast between Obama and a bitter nasty old man like McCain would be striking but not so much with Clinton.

2. Clinton winning at this point would keep the party loyalties in flux longer. Ideally, the DNC Convention would have to broker a deal while the GOP (through manipulation of the primary process) foists Senator Triceratops on us by the end of March. That gives McNasty plenty of time to lie his way into enough support he could pull of a stunning upset and win the White House in November. The key to McCain’s victory is party unity (read bitch slap down any Republican who disagrees with McCain)while Clinton and Obama duke it out to differentiate themselves in areas they are virtually identical to one another and to Triceratops.

3. There is more material and sentiment to use against Clinton. Not the least of which is the public’s weariness of this Bush/Clinton tag team dynasty. Obama’s very inexperience makes it difficult to hit him on the issues and to hit him on any other factor gets you immediately branded a racist.

I don’t get Rush’s reasoning. Let’s just get rid of hillary now and then run against the inexperienced hack politician with the connection to corruption in November.

Bill C on March 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Internal division in their party is to our benefit. Let the tribes in the Democrat party duke it out, the loser ends up brooding, and dispirited.

Hillary can’t beat McCain so who cares?

Regarding the polls, part of the reason why Hillary (and McCain) won big in Cali even though polls showed Obama (and Mitt) leading was because they vastly underestimated the Hispanic turnout, which went big for both Hillary and McCain. The only difference is that in Texas, there isn’t a huge Asian population, which also gave Hillary tons of surprise votes that day in Cali.

Regarding the rest of the primary season, I hope that regardless of what happens tonight, Hillary stays in this thing until convention. Glenn Beck said it best a few weeks ago on his show. The only thing that even approaches the peace of Jesus is the sense of well-being conservatives are getting by watching the Dems use their own tactics against each other.

Hil running with BHO for VP is a prospect I dread

Dread not and bone up on American politics. No way a HRC/BHO ticket can win in this country. A fact the Clinton’s are fully aware of, which is why they’ll never go pick a “star” underling who will only outshine Herself and drag them into Leftist oblivion.

You must always kill Dracula at the earliest opportunity. If Rush gets his wish he’s also going to get his nightmare–The Hildabeast with her accused rapist husband back in the White House.

patrick neid on March 4, 2008 at 10:57 AM

I don’t get Rush’s reasoning. Let’s just get rid of hillary now and then run against the inexperienced hack politician with the connection to corruption in November.

Anything and everything about today’s contests in Texas, Vermont, Rhode Island and Ohio.Recent fodder:Link: Can H ……

MT on March 4, 2008 at 10:38 AM

Yes, if she wins, she’ll have the Dittoheads to thank.

Hil running with BHO for VP is a prospect I dread.

edgehead on March 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Texas Nick 77 on March 4, 2008 at 11:44 AM

I agonized, then quit thinking about it, read, agonized some more, listened to the radio folks, quit listening to the radio folks, then finally consulted my own conscience. I arrived at my final decision last night, and I feel light as a feather. Regardless of the outcome, my conscience is clear.