We shouldn’t fall into the Curveball trap of believing intelligence sources who may be running a disinformation game against us, but this is definitely serious. Colombia said on Tuesday that FARC rebels had been planning to make a “dirty bomb”……

Does anyone know what, if anything, is being done to the 5th columnists who authored that NIE report, then forced bush to make it public?

a capella on March 3, 2008 at 10:05 AM

I was just thinking that maybe President Bush and our e-hem “intelligence” community released that craptastic NIE report for the purpose of waging a mis-information campaign in order to bring the Euro-weenies out of their “Buh-buh-but I’m-afwaid!”-closet. Then the world could breathe a universal sigh of relief and we at HotAir could shout, “ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!” …and then I WOKE UP.…

This is the reality behind the Euro reaction.

Agreed. But they still want the US to do the dirty work. And take the heat. Not that it isn’t in our best interest, of course. But I am tired of hearing that the current administration torched our allies. The allies are still there…quiet, maybe…but always willing to hide behind the US flag when convenient.

It is the allies that boldly stand with us, for better or worse, that I am impressed with. Now…who might that be…

Why?

Because the Pope could say something. Or Wilders release another film. Or some more Danish cartoons. Or something else, a play, a book, an opera, whatever.

And BOOM! there goes Rotterdam and Amsterdam. Or Copenhagen. The US could “survive” losing NYC, DC, and Chicago. We would still exist as a nation and would simply kill hundreds of millions of people in retaliation for 4-15 million US dead.

For a nation like Denmark, losing 4 million people in Copenhagen would END the nation. Same with the Netherlands. Even France would be permanently crippled by losing Paris.

So, Europeans are scared. Nuclear proliferation + Jihad = Dead European cities. No matter how much appeasement takes place because there is always someone going to do something that will piss off Muslims.

This is the reality behind the Euro reaction.

My guess is that eventually they will come back to the US and say “There, we proved it. Now please use your resources to stop it.”

It is too easy for many governments (and the IAEA) to hide behind the US…and criticize the US…until the US isn’t there to protect them.

I don’t understand why the “Intelligence” community seems to be anti-Bush considering that the Democrats have rendered them almost unable to do their jobs.

It’s because the CIA is comprised of two major parts. One part are the field agents out doing real work and real missions. They are only about 10%-20% of the total CIA personnel. The rest are desk jockies/analysts and bureaucrats who have a vested interest in the status quo or hiding just how ineffectual and wrong they have been for years.

Think “State Department” only with less oversight and more budget.

I think all of us here knew that the NIE was crap.

SoulGlo on March 3, 2008 at 11:20 AM

At least two of us did and I’m sure there are a lot more with the exception of the MSM and the UN.

The higher we rise, the more we see.

It should be pretty obvious to all readers that:
1) Iran is actively developing nuclear weapons, and
2) Iran (via Hezbollah) has declared war on Israel and the United States.

The fact that Russia and China are supporting Iran makes them party to this war.

In other news, the U.S. could intervene as Chavez prepares for war on Colombia.

But when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be troubled; for such things must happen, but the end is not yet.

And by the way, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. is not the “Messiah” (which is translated “the Christ”).

Captain Ed (at his new digs) talks nukes:
Specifically, the Iranians have never given any satisfactory response about their “Green Salt” project. They also have blocked access to Parchin, where some suspect that the Iranians perform most of their m…

…[B]ut we had better ensure that the rest of the world keeps that pressure on Tehran.

In so many years of fumbling around, the men in governments and international institutions, who expect everyone to rely on them, have given everyone reasons to doubt their competence or good faith. Is some means of taming or destroying the Iranian government available in private hands? Is it possible for private men to accumulate such means?

Iran, how about you?

The US has known Iran wanted to build a bomb, but most would just see it as “the same kind of lead-up to Iraq”. So, this time, we’re going to hang back, let people figure out Iran is up to no good, then ask for US assistance in stopping the threat.

So it’s not up to the IAEA to prove that they are, it should be up to the Iranians to prove that they ARE NOT.

This whack o’ mole game of clue is ridiculous. If the world cares, they need to make the Mullahs prove their case.

If not, why waste the time and just go about enjoying our last days on earth.

1 – Russia.

2 – China.

They know the answer for sure.

All this talk about the U.N., Europe, NIE, etc., is a bunch of crap.

Iran will not give you a straight answer but Russia and China will, with proof.

Yes, it’s not easy to get an answer from these two, but there are ways to make them talk, and bring them on our side.

Diplomacy is not dead yet with those two.