Rev. Wright’s friendship with, and praise of, Farrakhan is akin to one of our candidates going to a church whose pastor called David Duke a “great man” (not to mention traveling with him to meet Khadafi).

Buy Danish on March 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM

And it appears that John McCain endorsement is a nightmare.

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The Race Card on March 3, 2008 at 3:29 PM

What does the fact that Obama went to Harvard have to do with his choice of a spiritual advisor, mentor and church?

Rev. Wright’s friendship with, and praise of, Farrakhan is akin to one of our candidates going to a church whose pastor called David Duke a “great man” (not to mention traveling with him to meet Khadafi).

So you can act like there is no right-wing race problem nor at least the perception thereof. You can ignore the daily rants of some of your favorite HotAir heads. But you do so at the peril of conservativism.

Thank you. I know I can be a little hard on the Beaver. But I have higher expectations for my party than others.

The Race Card on March 3, 2008 at 3:29 PM

I have your back and I am right there next to you in the foxhole.

My greater point is that it is becoming apparent that the only times we get collectively exercised against racism is when it supports our double standard paradigm. Just about every day on every conservative website I visit, I read somehing that is offensive about blacks, muslims, gays and/or Mexicans. Surely, a lot of what is communicated is true. But, a lot of it is simply rude and bigoted filth.

Many of those comments pass without raising one hackle. But I have yet to see any post involving a minority wherein their minority status or race did not become “fair game.”

In scrambling to constantly remind the world that there are indeed black racists and liberal bigots, many Republicans supplanted the real effects of historical racism with their own victim narrative. Republicans do this better than any minority group and that is obvious to me.

So you can act like there is no right-wing race problem nor at least the perception thereof. You can ignore the daily rants of some of your favorite HotAir heads. But you do so at the peril of conservativism.

AprilOrit on March 3, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Thank you. I know I can be a little hard on the Beaver. But I have higher expectations for my party than others.

I never underestimate the Clintons and their dirty pack of underlings. They make Rove look like Spanky McFarland. I think she will do all kinds of things to take McCain out that Obama is just not capable of, either mentally or spiritually.

And Hillary is to the Right of McCain on many issues as we have been reminded by Coulter.

Oh well if it happens Rush can give his sober carrying water speech yet again.

AprilOrit on March 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Probably. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not on the Obama = muslim bandwagon, and it irks me to see the “Hussein” bit still lingering; but for a guy who wants to put these issues to rest, he needs to plug the holes.

I saw on Fox, Bam saying he’s been a Christian for the last 20+ years.

So, what transpired before that?

yo on March 3, 2008 at 2:34 PM

He was probably like everyone else, he didn’t attend services and fell out of touch with religion.

Aren’t many Evangelicals born again after years of not attending services?

So, what transpired before that?

Do you really think he is a racist? Have you ever been Harvard? Would you even think to suggest a white person who attended a predominantly black college was racist?

The Race Card on March 3, 2008 at 1:47 PM

What is your point here?

Do you really think he is a racist? Have you ever been Harvard? Would you even think to suggest a white person who attended a predominantly black college was racist?

Was every white person whose church justified non-miscegenation a racist? Is every white dad who wants their daughter to date a white guy a bigot? Is John Gibson a racist for urging whites to have more white babies to offset immigrant birth numbers?

I think Obama’s pastor is a nutbird. By focusing on Obama’s spirituality we leave ourselves vulnerable to similar attack. Do we really want to dig into all of our politician’s religious lives?

Furthermore, Republicans were all but ready to nominate Mitt Rommney. (I’d take Mitt over McCain any day.) His church doctrine, not just his personal house of worship, was more racist than Obama’s. That was in all of our lifetimes. Should Mitt get a pass for not denouncing racist Mormon leaders more forcefully?

What about George Allen? Was his office decor less offensive than Obama’s church? Is the confederate flag less offensive to blacks than Obama’s church is to whites? Many southerners and many Republicans seem OK with the confederate battle flag.

I think Obama’s racial baggage will reveal itself to be one of the odd quirks that can manifest in the lives of mainstreamed minoriites. (Shelby Steele is a great source on such matters. John McWhorter is also interesting.)

Lately, Republicans have been trying to match or equate our party’s shortcomings with similar dynamics in other groups. We are quick to point out perceived double-standards. What I rarely see is anyone on the right willing to ID and own real racism on our side. It’s that kind of two-stepping that makes us look like we are full of shit to the everyone else.

Democrats know they are racial tricksters. But they also know that Republicans will screw up every chance to pass the torch of racial agitation to its rightful holder…the Democratic Party. The second we can be honest about the bigots in our midst and about the perils of our backlash against racial grievances, we will take their advantage away.

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jgapinoy on March 3, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Yeah, I get that. Connie is not guilty of being a fake-Christian, so she can accuse Obama of being one. That’s between you and Connie and God.

I am personally not comfortable judging another person’s Christianity. If we are all sinners, what makes me, you or Connie any better than Obama?

Attack him on the issues. He’s vulnerable.

He’s not a Muslim, he goes to a Christian Church, twisted and far our allbeit, but not a mosque by any stretch.

Which polls specifically are understating their findings or tell us with which poll’s findings are you disagreeing.

When I posted that it was little more than a gut feeling. Then I saw this.

The Race Card on March 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM

I don’t think sin is the issue here. He is Christian, but his brand of Christianity has a lot of affection for Louis Farrakhan, the man who leads the Nation of Islam.

As for “race related baggage”, Obama chose to go to an afro-centric church, so he has considerable baggage in that department which is a bit difficult to blame on others.

The Race Card

The passage about judging is the most abused text of the Bible. Jesus taught us to judge–discern–about people, but not hypocritically. Read “judge not, lest you be judged” in it’s context. Don’t accuse someone of something you’re guilty of.

his family background and influences is very checkered.
from hawaii, to africa, to indonesia, back to the states.
moving up through the ranks, prodded by a black separatist priest, pals with a ex-domestic terrorist. hmmm.

a comprehensive backgrounder should be assembled on Barry Sotero (aka BHO) and his wife, Michelle.

who are these people, really?

I think she’ll pull an upset in Texas. I think the polls are understating her support among Hispanics.

Mike Honcho on March 3, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Which polls specifically are understating their findings or tell us with which poll’s findings are you disagreeing.

No one who supports partial-birth abortion is Christian either. I put Obama’s “spiritual” beliefs squarely in the New Age relativism of the Oprah/Kerry camp where you are your own god.

Connie on March 3, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Is judging another person’s relationship with God a good model for Christian behavior? Are you telling me there are no Christians who have committed greater sins? Did God forgive those people? Is one a Christian because of his sins or because of his redemption?

Saying he’s not really a Christian is probably no less offensive to Sen. Obama than calling him a Muslim.

I know it’s all the rage to insult and attack the man, but you’re only adding to the dung heap of race-related baggage we Republicans must lug around.

Also, if you’re going to point out that religious bigotry does not qualify as racism, save it. You get my point. It’s that type of tone deaf, gotcha equivocating that makes Republicans seem more racially-challenged than Dems, when we should have the moral highground.

Of course he’s not a Muslim. Despite having a Muslim father. Living in a Muslim country. Going to a Muslim school. And having a Muslim name. He’s all about Jesus.

Well, the version of Jesus that was a black-power racist….

She’s a piece of work.

What will we do without her?

The bottle of champaign I’ve saved ever since these “two” decided to re-run for C in C will be consumed with the understanding that this means “one socialist down — one to go”