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Rumor: Rove wants Romney on the ticket

posted at 11:55 am on March 3, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Says Novak, who also claims to have heard from Romney’s people that McCain promised Charlie Crist the VP nod in return for his endorsement in Florida:

A footnote: Karl Rove and other prominent Republicans are talking up a McCain-Romney harmony ticket despite personal dislike between the two presidential candidates. Romney also would have to overcome opposition to him going on the ticket by his closest advisers.

We’ve been down this road before vis-a-vis Coulter but since we’ve got some new readers via Captain Ed, let’s run through it again. Romney might bite at the offer since it’s the best leg up he could have on Huckabee, Jindal, Sanford, Pawlenty or whoever else is coming down the pike in 2012/2016, but what does he do for McCain? There’s no shortage of southern evangelical (read: *wince* non-Mormon) social cons around to help him shore up the base, none of whom come with the baggage of nasty exchanges with McCain at the debates and in ads. The only potential advantage he brings is money, which is no small thing when the GOP is taking a hellacious beating on fundraising, but Mitt’s not going to bankrupt himself to make Maverick president and his campaign fundraising wasn’t so prolific as to put him anywhere near the class of Hillary or Obama. He’s not going to deliver any northeastern states to McCain either. So what’s the angle here? Appeasing talk radio by putting a guy on the ticket whom none of them were especially passionate about until he became the only alternative to McCain?

Here’s a better question. Strictly from an electoral standpoint (i.e. not in terms of your own policy preferences), why is Romney a better pick than Huckabee? Silver tongue, tireless campaigner, social con cred, and just enough (shudder) economic populism to maybe steal a few undecideds from the Democrats in the center. I’m not asking if he’s the ideal pick, mind you, just why he’d earn fewer voters than Romney would on the ticket.


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Isn’t Cheney available?

darwin-t on March 3, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:16 PM

Nothing like an analogy that is way out of proportion. Look, go be rich, have lots of boats, whores, cars, houses, whatever. But don’t think you can squash my voice by outspending me. Now you’ll probably say that a person who doesn’t give a lot of money to elected officials are lazy, or drug addicts, or what?

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Your hopeless, are really Josh Romeney?

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:21 PM

Nothing like an analogy that is way out of proportion.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:20 PM

What analogy have I made? I’ve said that people should be free to spend their money as they will. What’s the flaw in that reasoning?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Look, go be rich, have lots of boats, whores, cars, houses, whatever.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Yeah, Romney and his harem of whores. Romney Big Pimpin’!

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:23 PM

Big S on March 3, 2008 at 8:10 PM

Take out all limits and I am there.

Conservative Voice on March 3, 2008 at 8:13 PM

I don’t agree with that position, but I see it as a perfectly valid one to hold. I don’t think McCain-Feingold was a good law (mostly because of the no-ad window before elections), but I take issue with characterizations that it limited peoples’ ability to spend their money on politics. Your real issue is with the FECA laws from ‘71 and ‘74; BCRA ‘02 just moved the regulations around a bit, improving some areas while making others worse.

Big S on March 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:20 PM

You don’t get it do you comrade, just because you can’t convince people to donate money to your cause doesn’t mean you should squash their freedom. You are FREE, rather were free, but sadly you are too blind by your class envy to realize you no longer have freedom of speech…you have limited speech.

Conservative Voice on March 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:23 PM

You called me Pol Pot, a$$hole. Get off the weed dude. You can’t even remember the post you made two minutes ago.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM

But don’t think you can squash my voice by outspending me.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Don’t outspend you? Are you insane? I can only spend as much money as he who spends the least?


Can’t outspend you?!

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Big S on March 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Finally some common sense in the house.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:25 PM

I am fraid your broken English is going to liability here.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:26 PM

You called me Pol Pot, a$$hole. Get off the weed dude. You can’t even remember the post you made two minutes ago.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM

You’re totalitarian and anti-bourgeoisie. You’re also a potty-mouth.

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Big S on March 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Does it not put a limit on what people can spend, does it not control how that money is to be spent? That money that is used to buy advertisements on political speech…hence limiting our freedom of speech.

Conservative Voice on March 3, 2008 at 8:27 PM

I am fraid your broken English is going to liability here.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Where is the broken English that’s going “to liability”?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Rich-good. Corrupt-bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:27 PM

It’s called humor. I was trying to talk in terms you might understand.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:29 PM

My choice for VEEP, if he’d take it, is Tony Snow. Gave a great speech at CPAC! The conservative base loves him!

Conquistadora on March 3, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Conservative Voice on March 3, 2008 at 8:27 PM

That’s why the 527’s were left in the legislation. Read the law and stop guessing what’s in it. Is there a constitutional lawyer in the house?

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Rich-good.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM

That isn’t what you’ve been saying at all!

Rich-good. Corrupt-bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:28 PM

Where’s the corruption in freely giving to whoever you want? If it’s exchange for political favors, that’s obviously corruption. But if you give a billion dollars of your own money to a politician just because you agree with him…more power to you.

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:30 PM

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Conservative Voice on March 3, 2008 at 8:31 PM

It’s called humor. I was trying to talk in terms you might understand.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:29 PM

Oh, sorry I didn’t catch that. Now I’m slapping my knee…

(Totalitarian and condescending.)

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:31 PM

NO LAW MEANS NO LIMITS, NONE, ZERO

Conservative Voice on March 3, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Your real issue is with the FECA laws from ‘71 and ‘74; BCRA ‘02 just moved the regulations around a bit, improving some areas while making others worse.

Big S on March 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM

Good luck trying to get this crew to understand that one. It took me a half hour to force feed them the Supreme Court decision of 03′.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Does it not put a limit on what people can spend, does it not control how that money is to be spent? That money that is used to buy advertisements on political speech…hence limiting our freedom of speech.

Conservative Voice on March 3, 2008 at 8:27 PM

McCain-Feingold did not represent the beginning of limits on campaign contributions in the USA. On the federal level, that does all the way back to the mid-70’s. McCain-Feingold actually loosened the restrictions on the amount that individuals can donate to a candidate’s campaign, so in that narrow sense, it actually increased freedom of speech (in the form of direct monetary contributions.) Where it erred was that it put a blanket prohibition on the airing of issue ads that mention a specific candidate during a window of time before an election, regardless of the cost of the ad.

Big S on March 3, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Head against wall. Repeat.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Big S on March 3, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Gasoline on the fire.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM

It took me a half hour to force feed them the Supreme Court decision of 03′.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Sorry, I missed something. When did you convince us that anything a court says is right?

I’m not talking about law, but right.

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM

Head against wall. Repeat.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Careful, buddy: too much banging of one’s head against the wall can cause one to support limiting peaceful political speech.

But the comment reminds me of when I was an undergraduate and one of my condisciples had really bad Greek. We tried to convince him that he was misreading a passage, but he got upset and defensive and said (in all seriousness) “a prophet is not known in his own country!”

Hmmm…maybe you are The Chosen One! (Sorry, I mean THE CHOSEN ONE!)

By the way, how did you choose that name?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 8:39 PM

…your a fool. …
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 7:33 PM

I am fraid your broken English is going to liability here.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 8:26 PM

I’ll let the obvious remain obvious.

The Race Card on March 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM

Where’d you go, CHOSEN ONE? Why hast thou foresaken us?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Lindsay Graham will be the VP nominee.

Obama will win, with VP Bill Richardson.

LIberty is dead. Get used to it.

mksmithwriter on March 3, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Where’d you go, CHOSEN ONE? Why hast thou foresaken us?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 9:02 PM

You would fail the block test. You know when you keep trying to put a square in the round hole. Then you try putting the star in the triangle. It’s become redundant.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Lindsay Graham will be the VP nominee.

What the hell is wrong with Lindsey Graham? He’d be a great choice and will help down in Dixie.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:27 PM

You would fail the block test. You know when you keep trying to put a square in the round hole. Then you try putting the star in the triangle. It’s become redundant.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Perhaps you’re right: I spent far too much of my evening trying to get you to explain why it was right to curtail free speech or why you have such animosity towards the rich.

What the hell is wrong with Lindsey Graham?

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:27 PM

This.

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Lindsay Graham will be the VP nominee.
Obama will win, with VP Bill Richardson.

LIberty is dead. Get used to it.

mksmithwriter on March 3, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Not gonna happen. Rumors in SC are that Graham is “light in the loafters” as we say down South. The Left wouldn’t hesitate to use this whether it’s true or not. They will throw whatever part of their loosely tied minority constiuencies under the bus, especially if said gay male is a Republican. Believe me, I know personally.

SouthernGent on March 3, 2008 at 9:43 PM

LG is a pussy, illegal alien loving piece of crap.

Plain enough.

He was one of the first wafflers on Iraq.

He and McCain will make a good pair.

Pair of a-holes, that is.

mksmithwriter on March 3, 2008 at 9:45 PM

http://dumplindseygraham.blogspot.com/

mksmithwriter on March 3, 2008 at 9:46 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 7:38 PM

If other people have more money than you, they should be allowed to spend it however they want.

Do you love freedom as much as you hate rich people?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 7:40 PM

Yes, Tzetzes, IMAO, he hates freedom and rich people. He likes the biddy from the Nanny State….What about Cindy Hennesey & her rich Daddy and McVain’s first marriage thingy? Didn’t really address that did you not-so chosen? Do you hate her money too or just Gov. Romney’s and his sons money?

Branch Rickey on March 3, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Just like the justifiable ban on soft money by the SUPREME COURT, Lindsey as VP is a done deal. Get used to it or stay home. I actually think Maverick should use that as a campaign slogan. McCain/Grahan 08′ “Get Used To It Or Stay Home”. It has a nice ring to it.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:48 PM

6) In the wake of 9/11, DID NOT FOCUS ON MAKING SOUTH CAROLINIANS MORE SECURE. Instead, Lindsey Graham focused on protecting the rights of the terrorists. He wrote the bill that extended rights to terrorists equal to those of United States citizens! He stood on the floor of the Senate and cried for the terrorists who were being aggressively interrogated. He called the US Military barbarians. And, unbelievably, he went all the way to the US Supreme Court to defend known terrorist Salim Ahmed Hamdan. Folks, this is YOUR UNITED STATES SENATOR!

mksmithwriter on March 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM

Being Rich-good, Trying to Buy elections-bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM

Just like the justifiable ban on soft money by the SUPREME COURT, Lindsey as VP is a done deal. Get used to it or stay home. I actually think Maverick should use that as a campaign slogan. McCain/Grahan 08′ “Get Used To It Or Stay Home”. It has a nice ring to it.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:48 PM

Isn’t it already?

He thinks that tough-guy maverick-act is going to get him elected because he believes he’ll pull more center votes than the Dem nominee.

His arrogance, which is always palpable, will seal his doom, just as has Hillary’s.

mksmithwriter on March 3, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Folks, this is YOUR UNITED STATES SENATOR!

mksmithwriter on March 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM

Not for too much longer, then you can have that drug addict Ravenal as your senator.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM

It’s wonderful to see that the king troll can still hi-jack him some threads….where’s you’re queen (Chakra Hammer), Chosen One? Chosen, you add nothing on this site.

It’s good to see you off your meds today. Peace to you Comrade Chosen, I’ll see you in the bread line after the re-indoctrination from the Obama.

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 9:52 PM

Still saying…Gov. Crist would be the best I’ve seen so far.

You have no idea what you are talking about. crist is doing the best he can to destroy the Florida economy. I want him gone but I am not so selfish or stupid to have him gone by being a heartbeat away from the presidency. The guy is a flaming liberal and about as smart as a cinderblock.

peacenprosperity on March 3, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Trying to Buy elections-bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM

Being free means (how many times does this take?) being able to spend your money as you like.

Is giving money to a politician you agree with bad?

And if your answer depends on the amount, then what’s the amount? What’s the dollar-figure where you cross over from legitimate speech to “buying” an election?

Being Rich-good

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM

You haven’t said that at all!

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Being Rich-good, Trying to Buy elections-bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM

Dude, it’s been going on since elections were invented.

Kennedy got elected on fraud. I was in Washington and watched as Gregoire and the Dems up there STOLE the election.

Liberty is dead – YOU get used to THAT

mksmithwriter on March 3, 2008 at 9:54 PM

Oh, I’m still wondering how thou pickedst thine handle, THOU CHOSEN ONE.

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 9:54 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 7:33 PM

Bambi on March 3, 2008 at 7:20 PM Don’t worry about Mitt’s spoiled brats…[you're] a fool.”

Hey “Not Chosen Juan” – you must have to admit this is irony. You basically wrote that “‘Bambi’ was a fool” (please see above) then you foolishly made a grammar error. lewl

Branch Rickey on March 3, 2008 at 10:01 PM

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 9:53 PM

I’d like to give my to the cops so they’ll let me run down the street naked, but guess what? It’s called Bribery. The 527 loophole allows you and your two friends to get together and make a commercial, billboard, or whatever.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 10:03 PM

So giving money to a politician without asking any favors in return is bribery?

Is no giving then allowed? Or, if some, then how much?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 10:10 PM

And where did you pick this name from?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Under $2,350…No Over $2,350…Yes

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 10:18 PM

And where did you pick this name from?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 10:10 PM

It chose me.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Under $2,350…No Over $2,350…Yes

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Did these figures choose you too?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 10:19 PM

And where did you pick this name from?

Tzetzes on March 3, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Rescue Ranger?

Branch Rickey on March 3, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Not for too much longer, then you can have that drug addict Ravenal as your senator.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 9:51 PM

A great networking contact for that rich girl Cindy H. McCain….. snark off

Branch Rickey on March 3, 2008 at 10:24 PM

I should have know.

Over 350 comments, and half of them are TCO’s.

Don’t you guys realize that he trashes Romney for one reason alone?

He’s a staffer for Lindsey Graham.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 10:27 PM

78 yesterday, snowing like heck tonight. Yep it’s Texas..

Oh…we’re we talking about Rove wants Romney on the ticket?

Picking his horse for 2012, or trying to get through 08?
I did notice he didn’t pick Graham for either.

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 10:27 PM

Easy. You know how I feel about Aristocracies.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Branch Rickey will burn in hell for his Lindsey Graham comments. I’ll arrange when I talk to Satan later.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 10:38 PM

Here’s a better question. Strictly from an electoral standpoint (i.e. not in terms of your own policy preferences), why is Romney a better pick than Huckabee? Silver tongue, tireless campaigner, social con cred, and just enough (shudder) economic populism to maybe steal a few undecideds from the Democrats in the center. I’m not asking if he’s the ideal pick, mind you, just why he’d earn fewer voters than Romney would on the ticket.

To Limerick:

But AP does pose a fair question.

Yeah, I’m with you thinking Rove is thinking past ‘08 . Then I thought, that doesn’t sound like Rove. He’ usually about what wins now.

Then I thought, he thinks we have no chance this year, and thinks Romney would get some play during this season, and then come out in 2012 as the great economic savior.

Cause if the Democrats pull this off, it’s going to be an economic disaster.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Disaster for sure. With the Dems holding the WH/House/Senate, and top that with the bright red cherry of at least 2 SCOTUS nods, I doubt the damage can just be wiped away. It will take a couple of decades to set things right. In the mean time the men and women come home like the men and women came home a couple of decades ago. Bitter,
tired, and demoralized.

But the hand sitters will always be there, ready to rescue the country. You know, it is 3 A.M. and the phone rings….

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Then I thought, he thinks we have no chance this year, and thinks Romney would get some play during this season, and then come out in 2012 as the great economic savior.

Cause if the Democrats pull this off, it’s going to be an economic disaster.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 10:45 PM

That’s been my gut feeling since the sandbagging in FL. McCain hit an inside straight by playing the Latino card and the “Romney hates military” cards. Combined with the double-barreled blast of Martinez and Crist, it dealt a blow. With that said, McCain has zero juice… he’s not going to get a fraction of the dollars that Bush got in 2000 and 2004. Romney spent a lot of his own money, but he also out raised the other jokers (that’s you McCain and Guiliani.) McCain’s going to have to tax me to get my money.

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 10:51 PM

People should have realized this back in Iowa and New Hampshire. All this bellowing about how important this election is wonderful after the fact. If this election is so freaking important, why did the Republican establishment coalesce around John McCain? Has he ever had a private sector job? Has he ever practiced anything he’s legislated?

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 10:55 PM

From the looks of it I’d say the airtime difference will be at least 4-1. Like it or not George Washington is the biggest player on the field.

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Don’t get me wrong Cold Steel, I’m no McCainiac. He was the last man on the list (Paul wasn’t on the list).

My thought is we will not get either the House or Senate. That only leaves us two hammers. The veto, and SCOTUS. Give up the WH and you have to pound the nails in with your gumballs. Will McCain actually use the veto? I dunno, but at least with Johnny Mac in the seat it is an option to stop the worst of the Dem bills.

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Oh, that hurts to the marrow.

I can’t accept that Rove is thinking that we can’t win. If this story is valid, then he’s done his math.

It makes sense. Its a good ticket. It brings the base in, period. Strong military leadership with strong economic understanding.

Then, if they win, Romney has four years to overcome the bigotry.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:05 PM

overcome the bigotry.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:05 PM

I hate to say this about my America, but bigotry is the biggest reason he isn’t there. Flip-flop, lib this, lib that….sure that is some of it, but mostly it is for that darkest of reasons(which is now going to start another flame war here).

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Actuallly, I have a rather nice pad within a country club even. I’m surprised that you wouldn’t welcome one that had a trailer. Maybe you and Romney went to Andover together. See, this is inherently the problem. Many here don’t understand the guy on Main street. You are more compatible with the guy on Wall Street. Until, the Republican party gets back to representing the guy and gal who work fourty hours a week, love their country, and pay their taxes we’ll be in trouble. Maverick will actually bail out you elitist again in November.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM

Dear Troll King:
This truly needs to be engraved and sealed. This is a work of art. Everyone knows that it only takes 2-hours a week to make a $100million/per year. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.
And thank you for standing up for those who work “fourty” hours a week. Pray tell, what shift is that? I missed that one. I’m one of the wingnuts who works 50+/week for a salary, and I find it wholly unproductive to waste time hating others’ success. It gets in the way of taking care of my own business. Get past your love affair with mediocrity and improve your life. You don’t have to limit yourself to 40 hour work weeks, bunkering double wides, debating the merits of your favorite western, and mashing the English language.

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 11:09 PM

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:00 PM

4-1 on paid ads. 8-1 paid ads plus MSM.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Snort. You don’t know if McCain would use the veto pen? LOL of course he would. He’s not popular in the Senate because he tells people, straight up, when they fuck up.

He first got “unpopular” when he wouldn’t go along with the POW/MIA con-men and their powerful right wing congressional supporters. The con-men were (and tragically still are) defrauding grieving families of MIA troops, and McCain was POed about it.

Would I always agree with which bills he vetoed? Since he’s not me, not likely. But he would certainly veto the Durbin/Obama “Patriotic Companies Act” and the “Global Poverty Act” and anything that cut funding or put a hard deadline on pulling out of Iraq.

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:16 PM

“but mostly it is for that darkest of reasons(which is now going to start another flame war here).”

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Oh well, the truth has a way of doing that.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:16 PM

Don’t get me wrong Cold Steel, I’m no McCainiac. He was the last man on the list (Paul wasn’t on the list).

My thought is we will not get either the House or Senate. That only leaves us two hammers. The veto, and SCOTUS. Give up the WH and you have to pound the nails in with your gumballs. Will McCain actually use the veto? I dunno, but at least with Johnny Mac in the seat it is an option to stop the worst of the Dem bills.

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:03 PM

I’m frustrated with the dilemma, but it’s the reality of the situation. The Rep’s have now twice fallen on their sword by being stubborn (first with the Congressional Elections in 06 and now in this primary season). Contrary to some of our favorite posters here, moderation is not the answer that Washington needed. This lukewarm milquetoast effort put on by McCain on all things non-military is uninspiring at best. At his worst, he has disdain for people like myself.

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 11:16 PM

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:16 PM

..exactly why I am voting for him.

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:17 PM

I hate to say this about my America, but bigotry is the biggest reason he isn’t there. Flip-flop, lib this, lib that….sure that is some of it, but mostly it is for that darkest of reasons(which is now going to start another flame war here).

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Nah, Romney was equally as bad as McCain for me, and we know and like lots of Mormons. Romney came across as way too nuanced in the debates….and he was the worst of the real candidates on detailing any plans for military funding or resupply.

The best one on military issues in the debates was Rudy, interestingly enough, closely followed by McCain and Fred! I just thought Romney seemed kinda too Massachusettsy, which I guess may be bigotry of another kind?

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:20 PM

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:20 PM

I understand funky. Sorta like me and NuYawkers….(just kidding Allah…I made you a promise when Fred pulled out, and I haven’t used the G word since).

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Allah:

The first and only major negative you bring to the table is: he won’t capture the evangelical so-con vote. UH… you think evangelical so-cons would choose Obama or Billary over a McCain-Romney ticket? Are you mad? I’m sick of all these pundits saying “Oh Romney will never grab the evangelical so-con vote.” He doesn’t need to! If they don’t vote for the better of the alternatives (who are pretty so-con themselves), then they can’t claim to be so-cons after all. Screw the evangelical vote, well its impact at least, on the general election. It certainly had impact on the Primary vote.

iamse7en on March 3, 2008 at 11:22 PM

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:20 PM

If it was a North/South thing it would bear out more in the numbers, especially out west. Romney resonated with many voters out west, even after he pulled out of the race.

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 11:27 PM

iamse7en on March 3, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Spot on.

If they refused to vote for that ticket, they’re one of two things:

bigots or government employees.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:29 PM

iamse7en on March 3, 2008 at 11:22 PM

7:
you’re going to stir up a hornet’s nest using “Allah” and “screw the evangelical vote” in the same posting. There are enough posts in this thread mixing different religious slurs….

other than that, good job.

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 11:32 PM

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 11:27 PM

Nobody hates success here. Just families that feel its their duty to have a member of the family run for president every generation. Especially when that candidate keeps getting his ass handed to him time after time after embarrassing time. Especially a candidate that outspends his defeaters 10-1 not with money the great “business man” inheritor raises, but with his own personal finances. Did you vote for Forbes and Perot as well? again. Rich-good, Buying elections-bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 11:34 PM

Cold Steel, uh, the West is NOT the South. I’ve lived in both places, and they don’t compare.

I’m currently in south-central Alabama. They don’t like Yankees too much down here, especially fast talking, clipped enunciating Massachusetts residents.

But if it makes you feel good to call all of us who live down here religious bigots, that’s OK with me too.

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:35 PM

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 11:27 PM

Nobody hates success here. Just families that feel its their duty to have a member of the family run for president every generation. Especially when that candidate keeps getting his ass handed to him time after time after embarrassing time. Especially a candidate that outspends his defeaters 10-1 not with money the great “business man” inheritor raises, but with his own personal finances. Did you vote for Forbes and Perot as well? again. Rich-good, Buying elections-bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 11:34 PM

You’ve posted several times with an inherent disdain for success both personal and financial. You hide behind class warfare rhetoric. Your bias bleeds through your postings. Thank you, however, for this latest one, because the tenor is obviously more civil. To answer your question, I did not vote for Perot or Forbes, both seemed to be one-trick ponies to me at the time.

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 11:40 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 11:34 PM

Oh, C’MON!!!

Are you trying to tell me that after 12,482 of your posts here, that suddenly you wouldn’t vote for McCain with Romney on the ticket?

That makes every one of your 12,482 posts empty of any credibility at all.

Come on tough guy, pony up:

YES or NO

Would you vote for a McCain/ Romney ticket?

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:41 PM

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:35 PM

I’m not calling anyone religious bigots. I do understand Southern and Western differences having spent time in Pensabama and in CA. What I meant is that Mitt had an appeal that isn’t localized to the Atlantic seaboard. I realized my error when I hit submit. What I see is a “comfort” hate/dislike that people have against certain regions. Every time I visited the folks in WY, they had to remind me that CA was going to fall into a burning, flaming ocean…. oh, but everyone does like to come and visit.

Cold Steel on March 3, 2008 at 11:45 PM

I still think TCO is an Obamite Moby.

I’m voting for the GOP candidate, period, because the dems are terrible. I had said that Huckabee wouldn’t get my vote, but I’ve even retreated on that statement. If it’s Huckster vs Obama, YAY Huckster.

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:46 PM

I’ll repeat my silly dream….Romney for US Senate 2010. Beat John Kerry!

Or he’d be a hell of a Treasury Sec’y if it would be interesting enough to tackle.

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:48 PM

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:41 PM

I dunno. I’ve been asked that question like twenty times today and I’m still torn. I was asked what I’d do if Romeny was the nominee and my answer was to sit it out, get Chinese food, a good western and build a bunker under my house. Couldn’t we make him secretary of commerce? I just feel that the #2, especially with his age has to be a real quality guy. I actually like Graham better than Mav by a hair. There like brothers and I know in my heart he’ll probably get the call. If maybe Graham could get Secretary of State, I……. I……I guess I could drag myself down there and….. and…. pull the lever for Mav/Romenee. I think I’m gonna throw up.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Chosen One (to Graham): Should I answer that?

Lindsey Graham: NO!!!!!

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Cold Steel. You have reminded them about that teensy little volcano under Yellowstone National Park, right? That thing blows and nobody in WY or parts of MT survives.

Added bonus is that it might set off the San Andreas I guess.

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:50 PM

“I guess” is a child’s answer.

Go ahead and say it:

Yes.

Go ahead.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:51 PM

One condition: Those punk Romenee kids better keep away from the Oval office. They’d probably bug this shit out of Maverick while he was doing business. Making prank phone calls to international leaders, wanting to ride shotgun on Air Force One, and having keggers at Camp David while Mav’s out of the country.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 11:53 PM

teensy little volcano under Yellowstone National
funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:50 PM

Rove, you magnificent b******!

Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Say it.

Saltysam on March 3, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Yes, only cause the economy is tankin’. I figure Romeney could juggle some numbers and make a couple of bucks for the country in some white collar crime.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 11:57 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE

All politicians buy elections, and it takes a lot of money to campaign and get elected. If one spends his/her own money, at least they will not owe some corporation/individual favors.

PrettyD_Vicious on March 3, 2008 at 11:57 PM

From Novac column:

“Karl Rove and other prominent Republicans are talking up a McCain-Romney harmony ticket despite personal dislike between the two presidential candidates…”

FYI: On tonight’s Hannity & Colmes, Rove stated that he has been getting a lot of input about a McCain/Romney ticket but he made it plain that he was not endorsing anyone at this time.

pocomoco on March 4, 2008 at 12:01 AM

I’m voting for the GOP candidate, period, because the dems are terrible. I had said that Huckabee wouldn’t get my vote, but I’ve even retreated on that statement. If it’s Huckster vs Obama, YAY Huckster.

funky chicken on March 3, 2008 at 11:46 PM

’bout sums it up, donut?

Saltysam on March 4, 2008 at 12:06 AM

I don’t think Romeny would take it anyway if offered. Didn’t anyone here about his not so secret meeting with the Conservative Union. Yeah it was supposedly like ten old men, Laura Ingraham and some other hack conservative hosts, some religious leaders, all in some back room the very day that Maverick was there to speak. Rumor has it that they apologized to Mitt for not seeing his “true conservatism” until the last minute. Can you believe that, the CU apologizing to phony boy because they didn’t buy his act. Give me a break.

THE CHOSEN ONE on March 4, 2008 at 12:06 AM

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