http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/03/03/nafta-gate-take-two.aspx

Goolsbee disputed the characterization from the conservative government official.

Ah, I get it. It’s just a politically-motivated hit job from the guy who takes notes. Perhaps that’s why the AP didn’t mention the part where the Obama camp first denied a meeting even took place.

franksalterego on March 3, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Well said franksalterego! Love the “moronosity” label to the mentality factor of our liberal “nominees of leadership”.

belongs to a racist “Christian” church….

DaveHusseinS on March 3, 2008 at 12:11 PM

I noticed that the Church’s website has removed their own version of “The 10 Black Commandments” – or wahtever the name was. Totally gone from what it was before. The bad part was, I was going there to show it to a Dem. friend. When she saw it was not right there where I said it was, she immediately (serious, or not) claimed that the story was all made up to begin with. I told her I’d find it in “way back” and she declined to look at it because it was probably “fabricated”.

You can disparage Obama’s methods all you want, but he’s going to ride that horse until it can’t be ridden any more, no matter how rhetorical or vacuous you find it to be. That won’t play in the general, and he’ll have to change his approach, and then we’ll see what he’s made of. Keep in mind that this is a Democrat primary. The things that we keep pointing out about him simply don’t matter to those casting the votes. The real fight is for the center, and those voters aren’t as ready to take things at face value. Obama will have to articulate and defend his positions.

Immolate on March 3, 2008 at 11:26 AM

All anyone has to do to watch B.O.’s Unstoppable March To Glory come to a screeching halt is simply do this. The next time he gets up there and makes all these wonderful, glorious, HOPE-filled promises he has been making all over the landscape, just ask him one simple, little, teenie-weenie question:

Ask him ……….. HOW?

Then watch him turn to dust before your very eyes.

In their own words, from the transcript:

MR. RUSSERT: But let me button this up. Absent the change that you’re suggesting, you are willing to opt out of NAFTA in six months?

SEN. CLINTON: I’m confident that as president, when I say we will opt out unless we renegotiate, we will be able to renegotiate.

MR. RUSSERT: Senator Obama, you did in 2004 talk to farmers and suggest that NAFTA had been helpful. The Associated Press today ran a story about NAFTA, saying that you have been consistently ambivalent towards the issue. Simple question: Will you, as president, say to Canada and Mexico, “This has not worked for us; we are out”?

SEN. OBAMA: I will make sure that we renegotiate, in the same way that Senator Clinton talked about. And I think actually Senator Clinton’s answer on this one is right. I think we should use the hammer of a potential opt-out as leverage to ensure that we actually get labor and environmental standards that are enforced. And that is not what has been happening so far.
– http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/27/ame…bate.php?page=7

Even at face value, this is moronic, and shows lack of character…Threatening to break a good faith treaty – a treaty, THEY THEMSELVES negotiated, and signed off on.

Saying to the World; American Treaties aren’t worth the paper they’re written on…And, that we will use our economic power to EXTORT our neighbors and allies to get what we want.

That they went behind the scenes to smooth it over – covertly saying, no matter how nuanced, “We’re just sayin’ it for political positioning – VOTES.” jus’ ADDS to the moronosity…That there was any discussion AT ALL, is proof; these idiots can’t be trusted.

Actually, it’s the same old politics in sparkling bright shiny new wrapping paper

It’s pretty easy to say you were against something when so such record exists.

I am put in mind of the Emperor’s New Clothes.

Although Hillary was the first lady, her prefference had no bearing. Obama was an associate attorney with Miner, Barnhill & Galland in 1994.

Obama’s rhetoric irritates me. It’s pretty easy to say you were against something when so such record exists.

You should have listened to Ron Paul while you still had the chance. Bwa-ha-ha-ha.

They got caught talking out of both sides of their mouths, and after that they tried stonewalling and lying to make the story go away

Democratic Playbook —– Chapter # 1,2,3,4,5 ……….

“when in doubt, use both sides of mouth to appease your audience”…(see Clinton Manual for best examples)

Fact is, Team Obama doesn’t want people to think at all.

Just drink your koolaid, wave your banners, say hope and change three times, then click your heels and dream about cotton candy clouds, happy trees, free health care forever and big fat checks from Uncle Sam.

There, don’t you feel warm and cuddly now?

fogw on March 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM

Team Obama knows most of his supporters don’t think. After all, at what age does cynicism set in? To become a cynic, one has to have had some experience with the truth.

Fact is, Team Obama doesn’t want people to think at all.

Just drink your koolaid, wave your banners, say hope and change three times, then click your heels and dream about cotton candy clouds, happy trees, free health care forever and big fat checks from Uncle Sam.

There, don’t you feel warm and cuddly now?

fogw on March 3, 2008 at 11:01 AM

You just summed up the entire B.O. mania thing in one short, crisp paragraph. And you did it brilliantly.

Team Obama wants people to think that their candidate represents a new kind of politics.

Fact is, Team Obama doesn’t want people to think at all.

Just drink your koolaid, wave your banners, say hope and change three times, then click your heels and dream about cotton candy clouds, happy trees, free health care forever and big fat checks from Uncle Sam.

There, don’t you feel warm and cuddly now?

1.) They’re drinking their own Kool-Aid.
2.) They think that everyone else has drank enough of the Kool-Aid and this won’t matter.
3.) They’re just plain stupid and inexperienced.

I go with #2. “This is far too complicated, I don’t see how you can implicate Obama in anything here. Mom, are my HotPockets done!?”