Horror: Man beheads one-year-old in Saudi grocery store
posted at 12:20 pm on March 3, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The M.O. is distinctly Saudi but every society has its lunatics and there’s no evidence suggesting it was motivated by anything more than a family spat, so no grand cultural comment here. Even so, we’re getting lots of tips about it.
Just because.
Early morning shoppers at a supermarket in Jeddah were left reeling yesterday, with some falling unconscious, after a well-built Syrian man clinched a knife and decapitated his 15-month-old nephew in front of his mother in the store’s fruit and vegetable section.
In a brutal murder that has shocked the city, the 25-year-old man beheaded the boy, who was out shopping with his mother — in full glare of shoppers and staff at Al-Marhaba supermarket on Sari Street around 9.30 a.m. The man, who is the boy’s maternal uncle, apparently killed the boy following a dispute with his sister and brother-in-law.
Eyewitnesses said that the man picked up a knife from inside the store and severed the boy’s head. The mother and a shopper standing close by fainted, while several other stood in shock and disbelief over what had happened…
“It happened so quickly. Before people could intervene, the man had cut more than half way through the child’s neck,” said Abu Muhammad, a grandfather in his mid-60s…
An eyewitness, who lives in the neighborhood, said that the victim’s family lived close by and frequented the supermarket. “I’ve seen the murderer carrying the same child and playing with him on a number of occasions,” he added.
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Pay it no mind.. LOL. Ever been to San Jose? Vile place I tell you. Oh and the largest male population that are single. I wonder why?!?!
Believe me, anyone who has a myspace page to blog and not get on other free blogging sites, obviously doesn’t look around the www much.
upinak on March 3, 2008 at 1:48 PM
At least it was over quickly. It may seem more brutal, but what about the time honored US Ghetto practice of abandoning your baby in a dumpster.
If I had to chose between my baby being beheaded, or dying due to cold, or starvation, or getting their face eaten by rats, I think I’d chose beheading.
Please don’t be stupid, this is in no way an endorsement or me condoning what went on…I’m just saying we do some nasty (and gutless) things over here as well.
beefytee on March 3, 2008 at 1:49 PM
In the islamic culture life means nothing so this animal could play with the baby one day and slice his head off the next. This guy wasn’t crazy, he is the product of a diseased and dysfunctional culture.
peacenprosperity on March 3, 2008 at 1:50 PM
Horrors! Sends chills down my spine.
The reality of the evil lying within the heart of man is more horrifying than any fiction that can be put on the silver screen.
shick on March 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Nut job Saudi beheads child = culture is flawed
Docs abort 1,000,000 babies = confused as to right solution
Gimme a break. Nut job. Same kinda nut job as the lady who killed a woman so she could steal her baby. Same kinda nut job who drowns her children in a bathtub, or a father who puts lead in his kids. Nut job.
Limerick on March 3, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Mohammed beheaded hundreds. Muslim men are supposed to (taught to) emulate Mohammed. Therefore, Muslim men behead.
Not all, of course. Wouldn’t want to over-generalize. Just saying why it seems so prevalent in their society.
When it (decapitation) happens here, it usually involves mental defect, drugs, sociopathic tendencies or all of the above. Your average citizen here, untouched by any of the above, is not going to resolve conflicts by cutting off a head.
Now if the madrassas started teaching touchy-feely conflict resolution courses…..
ej_pez on March 3, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I wonder if he was on drugs. You know, the kind our society huffs, snorts, injects, and smokes by the ton. All illegal by the way,..but that definitely isn’t a symptom of a diseased and dysfunctional culture. No sir. But, I doubt he was, which makes it even more inexcusable, right? If he’d done it under the influence, we could understand it and label it an individual act.
a capella on March 3, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Yep.
a capella on March 3, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Mat 18:5-6
(5) And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
(6) But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
-Jesus Christ
labrat on March 3, 2008 at 2:11 PM
What makes you think I have any desire to blog? Because I have random ramblings on my myspace page? I’ve changed it to a link that is more your speed.
I liked your blog though…. oh wait, thats right; you didn’t bother to link anything at all. Ah, but you still feel necessary to criticize me for offering people a little access to myself. Good work there, internet cowboy, you stay tough behind that keyboard.
liquidflorian on March 3, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Disgusting story. Disgusting man. Cultural? No idea. But does it shock anyone that this happened in Saudi Arabia?
It certainly didn’t, me.
tickleddragon on March 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Or should I say “Anyone shocked that it happened in a Muslim country?”
tickleddragon on March 3, 2008 at 2:26 PM
I see your point, but isn’t the difference the wanton disregard for life? I think the difference, and social commentary that can be made, that in Saudi Arabia honor killings aren’t contradictory to human nature and decency. And with abortion religion comes down on the side life, not so in the magic kingdom.
I see your point and agree with it to a certain degree, but I think it is a bit of an opposite situation.
liquidflorian on March 3, 2008 at 2:28 PM
The argument was over “paper or plastic.”
BelchSpeak on March 3, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Does this mean the guy wont have to buy a goat this year for the Festival of Slitting Throats in December?
BL@KBIRD on March 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM
I feel sick.
I don’t see any humor in this. Are some of you *that* jaded?
spidgy on March 3, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Were I Obama, (for which, I thank the Lord I’m not) I wouldn’t admit to being a Muslim, either.
jes’ sayin’
franksalterego on March 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM
horrible thing
trailortrash on March 3, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Dude, come on! ‘Internet’ is spelled with a capital ‘I’!
tlynch001 on March 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM
SECOND LOOK AT RIDING A BIKE!!!!
THE CHOSEN ONE on March 3, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Ahh Islam. The Religion of Peace.
Such lovely people. We should negociate a surrender a la Dhimmicrats and allow Islam to subvert our culture with a quaint dose of Sharia.
Montana on March 3, 2008 at 3:37 PM
I weep for the boy and his mother - that’s a hell of a way to lose a child. I don’t pray, but I’m keeping them in my thoughts.
I would have torn that SOB to pieces.
the goddess anna on March 3, 2008 at 4:05 PM
So, put me in a oven grammar Nazi.
liquidflorian on March 3, 2008 at 4:52 PM
While I tend to agree that this is a cultural perversion - saying that this couldn’t happen anywhere else is just false. To be the Devils advocate, the Jeffery Dahmer couldn’t have done what he did in Saudi.
ApartforHaShem on March 3, 2008 at 4:53 PM
So because I’m mad at my sister and her husband i should kill their child?
Oh yeah! Religion of Peace! Right, I forgot!
Vntnrse on March 3, 2008 at 4:53 PM
I’m not going to judge anyone’s reaction to this horror as everyone is shocked by such evil depravity beyond their capacity to be unemotional. But for me, I don’t find extrapolating such an act of insanity into some larger context of culture and conditioning. Simply put, saying “the Quran made/let him do it” is too close to absolving of the responsibilty that this monster so richly deserves. I highly doubt the Saudi courts will be conflicted in this matter, and I suspect that, for once, their railroad justice will be put to good use for the cause of the angels.
Immolate on March 3, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Killing children is part of Saudi culture. Teenaged girls who offend the honor of their families are murdered by their fathers, brothers, or uncles. I read of one girl who was drowned by her father in their backyard pool. The father told the girl who told her girlfriends who could do nothing.
I read the story of an English ex-pat who was stopped at an intersection in Saudi Arabia when a teenaged girl in an abaya jumped out of the trunk of the car next to him. She raised her hands to the sky and shouted for her mother. Then her father jammed her back into the trunk and locked it. He was opening his door to help her when the veteran ex-pat with him told him to stop, he could do nothing. The girl was obviously being taken out to the desert to be killed for dishonoring her family somehow. There were a lot of Saudi girls buried in the desert.
The Saudis are evil barbarians, Neanderthals in skyscrapers and BMWs, who love death as we love life. The barbarian violence they inflict on each other is the same violence they export to the world. The answer is to sever the flow of petrodollars to these religious maniacs, destroy their state, and drive them back into the desert.
Tantor on March 3, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Say what you will, but I’ve never heard of someone cutting off the head of a baby in the middle of a store before. Much less at all. It’s come to this? Sure, cut off the heads of US soldiers, but defenseless babies?
I’ll say it again - these kinds of things disprove the existence of any God who is not himself the Devil.
Seixon on March 3, 2008 at 5:29 PM
A Saudi asks himself, “Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?”
Because Saudis are indoctrinated to hate from birth until death.
Tantor on March 3, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Mohammad did it and got a religion out of it.
Follow his footsteps and they call you mad?
That’s a start on the road to recovery.
But we should wait for Reuters’ take on the story.
Maybe the kid drew a caricature of the prophet?
profitsbeard on March 3, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Sorry, my mistake. Thought that most of those who comment of this board kept up with current events. This story was widely published in the media. I think most are avid reaaders and not only have great reading comprehension, but also retain what they read.
If you need more links to such stories, let me know.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352514/posts
As she emerges from her mud-walled house carried high on her elder brother’s shoulder two-year-old Rabia is blissfully unaware of the life that awaits her.
Two-year-old Rabia
In 14 years, if the ruling of the village council – or panchayat – where she lives in rural Pakistan is obeyed, she will be married to a man 33 years her senior.
The decision was taken last week as a punishment against her uncle, Mohammed Akmal, who was found to have slept with another man’s wife. As part of the compensation deal he also agreed to pay 230,000 rupees
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/index.php?id=1114170
In Pakistan, not only do illegal child marriages sometimes occur, they happen on the orders of village councils of elders. Under Pakistan’s Muslim Family Law Ordinance, a girl must reach 16, and a boy must reach 18, before a marriage can take place. Both parties must give consent. Pakistan ratified the UN Convention on the Rights of Child in 1990. In February this year in Dera Ismail Khan in Punjab province, a four year old girl was married to a 45-year old man. The child had been ordered to marry as “compensation” to settle a family feud by a local council of elders, to settle a family feud. The girl’s uncle had transgressed custom by eloping with the 45-year old man’s niece.
This custom is known in Punjab and Sindh province as “vani”, and in the tribal areas of North-West Frontier province, the practice is called “swara”. Essentially it is the same in all three provinces; a tribal council (called a panchayat in Punjab, a jirga in Sindh and NWFP) orders a male to expiate a crime by sacrificing a girl relative in marriage. Vani marriage was outlawed at the start of 2005 by the Pakistani government, after a case in Multan in 2004 where a three-year old girl was married off to a 60-year old man. Muslim clerics solemnize these marriages, and even offer dire threats to girls and their families if they do not comply.
In November 2005 a panchayat in the village of Sultanwala in Punjab ordered that if five girls did not comply with orders of vani marriage, they should be abducted, raped or killed. The girls had been ordered as vani compensation in 1996, when they were aged between six and 13 years, after a male relative had shot a family rival. The girls had then been married “in absentia” by an Islamic cleric.
Vani marriages can be ordered against girl children who have not even been born. In Dera Ghazi Khan, Punjab on April 7, 2006, a case of vani came to light where a council ordered that four as-yet unborn girls from one family should be promised as compensation for a murder committed eight years earlier.
USBB on March 3, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Most likey this man will have his head off within a week. I was in Saudi some years back during Ramadan and Ramadan was the only time they didn’t have the Friday show at Chop-chop square. But once Ramadan was over, the show started back up.
mjtyson on March 3, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Words fail me.
What a horrible, evil man.
darkpixel on March 3, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Culture has little to do with it. It’s the religion of Islam. Islam teaches that this life is meaningless except as a prelude to the next life. Paradise with the glory of Allah. All religions teach that there can be eternal life, but only Islam says that the person has no say in it. Only God can decide who is worthy and who isn’t. There is no deed, no thought, no devotion, no love that will ensure acceptance into this eternal life. Only the will of God. Only he gets to decide, and nothing you do in this life matters except as how you perceive God to judge you when you get there.
You cannot judge others beyond how it relates to you, so no amount of outward devotion and piety of others saves them from your judgment of how you think they have wronged you. There is no such thing as “innocent” because you don’t get to decide that. Only God does. So you can kill a child and the deed is not something you can be judged for. Only God can judge you, too. And Muslims can find all kinds of justification in Islam to absolve themselves in the eyes of God for anything they do if they convince themselves that they do it for Islam.
This man walked into a public place and beheaded a 15 month old boy who he probably loved very much. He probably did it with no sense of guilt because Islam allows such things to be done. He probably did it to punish the mother and father of the boy for whatever dispute they were having. In his mind, the child is now in paradise and he did a good thing for the boy, and got revenge on the parents for whatever they did to him.
That’s Islam.
Jaynie59 on March 3, 2008 at 10:08 PM
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