Namecalling and harassment: The New Politics?
posted at 7:05 am on February 29, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
Black superdelegates report harassment, intimidation, and namecalling in attempts to get them to change their votes. Has this come from the vaunted Clinton machine, desperately attempting to pull out a miracle win? No — it comes from affiliates of the Barack Obama campaign, which hardly needs the hard sell (via Memeorandum):
African-American superdelegates said Thursday that they’ll stand up against threats, intimidation and “Uncle Tom” smears rather than switch their support from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to Sen. Barack Obama.
“African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened,” said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who has supported Clinton since August. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving “nasty letters, phone calls, threats they’ll get an opponent, being called an Uncle Tom.
“This is the politics of the 1950s,” he complained. “A lot of members are experiencing a lot of ugly stuff. They’re not going to talk about it, but it’s happening.”
After civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) switched his support from Clinton to Obama earlier this week, other black superdelegates have come under renewed pressure to do a similar about-face. A handful have bowed to the entreaties in recent weeks, including Georgia Rep. David Scott, but many say they are steadfast in their support for Clinton and resent strong-arm tactics to make them change.
This ugliness is the inevitable product of the Democratic delegate structure. One has to remember that the superdelegates comprise 20% of the total delegates, and that they are almost all public office holders. Their votes will determine the nominee, not the popular vote in the primaries and caucuses — and their constituents will hold them responsible if they vote in opposition to them.
For a candidate who supposedly wants a new kind of politics, this looks a lot like an older version that we thought we’d left behind. Obama’s supporters, at least, don’t seem to have much problem playing the race card with the superdelegates. That might work in the Democratic primaries, but this naked power play with identity politics will diminish his prospects in a general election, and it won’t help other Democrats, either.
It portends ugly divisions for the party in July, when they meet for the convention. Only an early withdrawal by Hillary Clinton will avoid it, and at the moment that doesn’t look likely. She’s leading in both Ohio and Texas in some polls, although in Texas she’s slipped behind Obama in most. If she stays in the race, the ugliness will only increase, and the bitterness will not easily fade.
The Democrats need to overhaul their delegate system, or put the pretense of a popular nomination process aside. They cannot expect people to sit idle as their elected representatives gainsay their will at the ballot box, and the superdelegates won’t stand for it again after this, either. They have to run for re-election in these districts and states, and getting called an “Uncle Tom” doesn’t make for a great campaign slogan.
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O’bama actually lost the college graduate vote in 2012.
Del Dolemonte on May 18, 2013 at 4:43 PM
Fixed.
Del Dolemonte on May 18, 2013 at 4:44 PM
You’re not being mocked (and not asked to die, btw) because you don’t know what skeet shooting is. You’re being mocked because you didn’t know what skeet shooting is and proceeded to make an ass of yourself anyway.
IOW, you are proud of your ignorance.
Tomblvd on May 18, 2013 at 4:46 PM
You sure posted like you knew, Cliff Clavin.
If your mother had of taken it on the chin that night you wouldn’t be here to torture us with your silliness.
arnold ziffel on May 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Nonpartisan, it’s obvious that you often don’t know what you’re talking about.
What confuses us is why you make claims as if you did.
That tells us that you really are never sure about what you do and don’t know. Your inexperience is glaring.
blink on May 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM
Nonpartisan’s last post was at 9:10 this morning until “it” posted again at 4:23, and yet “it” was responded to all day.
Come on people, giving her too much attention.
Barred on May 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM
really? REALLY?
cuz I wrote this
now, if you’re familiar with English context, you’d realize that the phrase ‘from my understanding’ leaves room for the speaker to be wrong and is explicitly stating that it is not a fact
nonpartisan on May 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM
Me no familar mit de Englis. Butt could you tell me Harvard story more again?
arnold ziffel on May 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM
I’m pretty sure that most skeet shooters are in a enviable economic bracket.
Cindy Munford on May 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM
there’s no story. Went to Harvard Law, got my JD, didn’t take the bar, never practiced. end of story.
nonpartisan on May 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Yes, because only a “bumblehick” could have cursory knowledge of firearms or shooting sports.
Maybe you should stop listening to the mentally-edfective old fool Obunghole picked as his VP and STFU about things you know nothing about. Imbecile.
Walter Sobchak on May 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM
Please go read the Texas law. My goodness you’re dense.
Google doesn’t even know what the f uck you’re saying . Do you?
Using such words does not excuse you from your idiocy.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 6:02 PM
You never took the bar because you don’t know sh!t about the law and never could have passed, and you never practiced because nobody would hire you to represent them in traffic court.
Walter Sobchak on May 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Harvard politely asks that you cease and desist with your lie. Something about sullying their brand.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM
A. Why did you waste your parents’ money on a Harvard Law degree if you weren’t going to take the bar or practice law?
B. You don’t even understand simple legal concepts like the parameters of self-defense. Nobody believes your story about being a law grad from *any* school, T14 or not.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM
High school is in doubt.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM
In unrelated news: White House posts photographic evidence that Obama is a bumblehick.
The Schaef on May 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM
If you had even the remotest notion of your own stupidity, you’d die of embarrassment.
Wendya on May 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM
What it demonstrates is that you don’t know what you are talking about and, more importantly, too lazy to spend a minute or two on google to educate yourself before making an ass of yourself.
I also find it highly enlightening that the only response you have to any post is one that has nothing to do with your alleged specialty, law.
Why are you afraid to answer all the legal questions?
Tomblvd on May 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM
Unicorn? Homosexual? Man? Black man?
CW on May 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM
That was a twofer. nonpartisaned is the gift that keeps on giving.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 6:21 PM
Having nonpartisan answer legal questions would be as funny as bayam commenting on economic and finance issues.
blink on May 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM
And ANY type of scientific issues.
blink on May 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM
My comment really wasn’t to nonpartisan.
My comment was really a warning to anyone that is tempted to comment on something that they don’t understand.
blink on May 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM
why does everyone feed the troll ……
yeah I made a comment too … but enough is enough ….
we should ignore it … maybe it will go away …
at the very least the level of comments will go up.
conservative tarheel on May 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM
CW on May 18, 2013 at 6:28 PM
1 perp was wounded, the other two got away.
Too bad it wasn’t a 3 body bag night.
The best way to lower the crime rate is exterminate those committing the crimes.
leereyno on May 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM
Guilty as charged. Asking a lot there mr. tarheel. You want quantity or quality? ;)
arnold ziffel on May 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM
While we are on the subject of guns did you know Bill Maher owns two?
Wigglesworth on May 18, 2013 at 6:44 PM
nonpartisan,
Never took the bar? Oh Lordy, did you break your mama’s heart? I can’t imagine investing all the time and money and not taking the bar. Even if you had become disillusioned with law and decided never to practice, didn’t you want the satisfaction of knowing you could have?
Or maybe your ego is healthier than most and doesn’t need that kind of validation. I just find it astonishing!
Nana on May 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM
I find it astonishing that the Troll can spell “law”.
kingsjester on May 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM
Mahrer: “Twelve home invasions in my neighborhood in the past year.” Really Bill, Is your neighborhood all of Los Angeles County?
arnold ziffel on May 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM
I will take quality … however the owners of the blog probably want quantity
because of ad revenue ….
conservative tarheel on May 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM
LOL
conservative tarheel on May 18, 2013 at 6:51 PM
Irrelevant. They already had shown that they were armed. This no longer becomes “burglary” as you quaintly put it. This just ONE of the crimes they committed.
They were armed. They threatened. The homeowner believed that the home invaders (not just burglars) had means and were a clear and present danger. Justified in any reasonable person’s mind.
But then, Liberals aren’t reasonable. We know that based on the past few years as we’ve attempted to engage them. They spout, insult and run away.
ProfShadow on May 18, 2013 at 7:02 PM
Hey guys, be nice! You are arguing with Obambutt’s replacement for Holder as the next AG. He/she/it is perfectly qualified for the position, based on the qualifications of Obambutt and HOLDER. NP has the same qualifications as Obambutt. NP would probably be a great improvement.
Old Country Boy on May 18, 2013 at 7:06 PM
You’re sorry you’re not a small town in Pennsylvania?
http://www.ejpix.com/photos/location-details.php?location_id=13918862&location=bumblehick-pennsylvania&lat=40.98734&long=-75.13883
OK, fair enough. I’ve always been sort of put out that I’m not Cape Canaveral, FL.
clear ether
eon
eon on May 18, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Are you incapable of understanding the hypothetical that I posed or do you think changing the subject will absolve you of your ignorance?
Read my hypothetical again, idjit.
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 8:34 PM
I’m sorry to feed the troll, but I got here late. Must I suffer because I’m old?
You spent a hundred thousand dollars for nothing? Are you one of the “top one-percent”? Or did you “borrow” the money? If so, are you planning on trying to pay it back?
I doubt it. You sound like the classic lib, who is taught that the world will rape you and only GovernmentMan can save you.
I have the feeling you get your learned helplessness from hippy parents.
Or maybe just cold, unfeeling parents. I don’t know which, but a healthy dose of testosterone would do you wonders. Call and see if Obamacare will cover any problems men have (assuming that word applies to you.)
Squiggy on May 18, 2013 at 8:35 PM
OK folkz stand back, I’ve had a stiff martini and am preparing another…I believe I am Nonpartisan’s intellectual equal, let me at him/her/it…..
JFKY on May 18, 2013 at 8:52 PM
It would be interesting to know what Nonpartisan’s undergraduate degree was. Womyn’s studies? Black Studies? Organizing fluff? Of course, like that of her mentor and hero Obambutt, it is not really any of our business. We already know that Nonpartisan is more qualified than Obamabutt and Holder.
Old Country Boy on May 18, 2013 at 9:04 PM
What was going on in your mind when you thought that a gun, an inanimate object, could distinguish whether one was shooting skeet or something else? Serious question.
anuts on May 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM
CW on May 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM
I attended Harvard, passed all the classes but did not get my degree…and the Harvard Definition of “Bumblehick” is:
A Mouf-breathin’, sister-lovin’ Gun-fondlin’ Christianist G*D-bag….
Now most of you hayseed hickz haven’t been to Harvard so it’s understandable that our hi-falutin’ language may be a bit puzzling. It’s just best you leave the hard thin’in to us Harvard boyz/girlz, ‘Kay?
JFKY on May 18, 2013 at 9:32 PM
You need to bang your head repeatedly against a brick wall to be his intellectual equal.
Kingfisher on May 18, 2013 at 9:34 PM
Well said, sir. I wonder how many children he could have fed with the money that was used to get his education…that…he…admits…he’ll…never…use.
Kingfisher on May 18, 2013 at 9:38 PM
My guess is that nonpartisan obtained his/her/its degrees by sleeping with the professors.
Kingfisher on May 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM
Why we even need a castle doctrine law is beyond me. Proof we have sunk far into the abyss.
JellyToast on May 18, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Dood/Doodette that’s what the ~150cc of Vodka was supposed to do….
I don’t know what Vermouth does to a person but I can attest to 147cc of Vodka.
JFKY on May 18, 2013 at 9:50 PM
Really drunken sinner that I am, I still see the need for society to provide legal limits to the use of force by citizens, or agents of the State, for that matter.
Sure locked in my closet I can use a firearm, but not locked in my closet, someone around my garage, may I shoot..chasing them down the street?
Legal doctrines are good, they provide guidelines for action.
JFKY on May 18, 2013 at 9:52 PM
That would be the very moment that I feel either I or someone on my my property (family, friends, guests, whatever) is threatened.
Othniel on May 19, 2013 at 12:02 AM
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That is sooo reminiscent of the sorry-assed song lyrics at the beginning of the movie ‘Aladdin‘.
.
If a desperate “father who is unemployed and at his wits end at finding options to provide for his starving family” … can’t find valid handouts in this country, he’s not looking hard enough.
If a desperate “father who is unemployed and at his wits end at finding options to provide for his starving family” … is too proud to ask for valid handouts, … and NOT too proud to steal … then he’s unworthy of his family, and his own very existence.
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Let’s have a reply to that … libfree’
listens2glenn on May 19, 2013 at 12:39 AM
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…… Or nonpartisan, or any other “lib-troll” who believes they’re equal to the intellectual challenge.
listens2glenn on May 19, 2013 at 12:46 AM
This is the funniest story I read all week!
By the way trolls, keep it up with the stupid comments … hilarious!
I love the one about how a man, with children no less, needs to burglarize a house using a gun. Brilliant!
Has it ever occur to them that burglars that carry guns are armed robbers by definition?
Perhaps the burglars should take classes at Harvard to learn how to be a dumber class of
criminals“desperate men with families to feed”?kregg on May 19, 2013 at 6:42 AM
it doesn’t state who fired first though, if the homeowner fired first, the burglar could technically claim self-defense for return fire.
nonpartisan on May 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM
Check this out, BC. If an armed person is in your home and you are both wielding some fire arm, there is no requirement to allow them, first shot. There are no Marquess of Queensberry rules that apply to gunfire exchanges. More often than not, he or she who fires first, wins.
I do not believe you went to any law school, let alone Harvard Law. As someone above stated, it just doesn’t make sense to spend that kind if money and then abandon the career.
smoothsailing on May 19, 2013 at 7:04 AM
Well Cindy, we learned a new word today. “Bumblehicks” = Landed European Aristocracy.
Huh …?
Jaibones on May 19, 2013 at 7:07 AM
soundingboard on May 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Is that you, Barak?
No wonder you don’t know what’s going on in your own administration …spending too much time on HotAir…
Of course, that is irrelevant…
ProfShadow on May 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM
there, fixed it….
May 19, 2013 12:00 PM Central Time….
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 19, 2013 at 1:01 PM
nonparts gets paid for derailing threads, it gets same pay as the lawn illegals at the big homes of the google bosses….
and it votes as told too
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The War Planner on May 19, 2013 at 2:44 PM
The invaders had already committed assault by this time. Battery is physical contact, assault is the threat of violence. The homeowner, threatened at gunpoint, forced into a closet… had already been assaulted, even if they didn’t physically touch or fire at him. Being assaulted, in his home, by invaders, qualifies for lethal resistance.
And if your assertion was viable, law enforcement would be rendered completely incapable of responding to any form of robbery or violence since the criminals could always claim assault by officers responding with force or even capturing them. The burden of the law starts with those instigating the conflict, assuming that the responders do not respond with a wildly different level of response. Since these invaders had firearms, firearms would be an appropriate level of response.
Do you know what you just taught me on this thread?
…that a single “101 Introduction to Law” class taken by a Computer Science major at a public college in Ohio is more valuable than a law degree from Harvard. Thank you… You made my day!
dominigan on May 19, 2013 at 6:28 PM
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