Why Superdelegates are smarter than Democratic voters

posted at 3:13 pm on February 27, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

The Democrats have discovered just how badly they have constructed their college of delegates in this cycle. They have used the superdelegate structure since the mid-1980s, but no one foresaw how that could appear when two candidates split the vote almost equally. Now one the architects of the Democratic delegate structure defends the concept in today’s Washington Post by saying what no one else will — the Establishment is smarter than the electorate:

In presidential election years, Americans see the face of a political party most clearly in the personality, views and character of its presidential candidates. But a national political party is about more than just the president. Its senators and House members pass the nation’s laws and budgets. Its governors lead the states. All must work together for progress in America.I chaired the 1982 Democratic Party Commission on Presidential Nominations that created certain automatic delegates to the Democratic convention — the “superdelegates.” It was a good idea then, and it is still a good idea. The superdelegates will be crucial to Democrats winning the presidency in November and governing successfully for the next four years.

In creating superdelegates, the Democratic Party recognized the expertise that its top holders of public office have gained by running for office themselves. They are experts at winning. They know the issues. They are in a unique position to evaluate presidential candidates. They have a well-honed instinct for how candidates will be received in their own states and districts. In short, they can help the Democratic Party pick a winner.

But the superdelegates’ value extends beyond the convention. If they play a role in picking the nominee, they will be more likely to campaign actively for the nominee in the general election.

Does everyone understand that? Hunt tries to explain it in small words, so that Democratic primary voters can understand it. The Establishment understands winning better than the voters. Voters gave the Democrats George McGovern and Jimmy Carter. Thankfully, the Establishment produced Walter Mondale and Mike Dukakis.

Hunt has a tough job here. He’s essentially defending the indefensible. If a party wants to offer primaries and state caucuses to produce nominees, then they should structure the race so that the results determine the winner. By reserving 20% of the delegate vote for the Establishment, they have almost guaranteed that any primary with two credible and popular candidates will wind up in an open convention. That means that the Democrats will either have to limit themselves to one attractive candidate per cycle by having big donors and party leaders chase other candidates away, or will need to play kingmaker at the conventions.

The Republicans do not have this problem. Only 5% of their delegates represent the GOP Establishment, which presents few problems for a determinative primary race. They also force pledged delegates to vote for their pledged candidates on the first ballot, which the Democrats apparently do not. Although some complain about the winner-take-all states on the Republican side, the overall result reflects the popular vote — which the Democratic superdelegates can reject at whim, and Hunt argues that they should have that leeway.

It’s ironic that the Democratic Party seems to have the bigger problem with democratic results.

Cross posted at Captain’s Quarters.

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Cap’n Ed:

The “Party of the People” doesn’t trust voters; never has, never will.

BD57 on February 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Hey! I didn’t break anything this time!

Ed Morrissey on February 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM

“All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.”

Orwell, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!

OhEssYouCowboys on February 27, 2008 at 3:19 PM

If we, the establishment, don’t like the election results, we’ll trump them with our super delegates.

Democracy in action, don’tcha think?

Kini on February 27, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Hey! I didn’t break anything this time!

Ed Morrissey on February 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Post a video, that should do it…

Aristotle on February 27, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Pretty soon the superdelegates will be demanding that the center lane of the highway be reserved exclusively for them.

Hollowpoint on February 27, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Little democrat irony got spent bribing those superdelegates. The farce grows like cancer.

maverick muse on February 27, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Welcome aboard Cap’n

Theyare just smarter than the average run of the mill smarter than thou liberals /sarc off

mrfixit on February 27, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Horrible post. This has nothing to do with democracy. The Democratic party can pick whoever they want and have no obligation to let people vote in their primary at all.

PS: Hunt’s right. American voters (not just democrat ones) ARE morons.

Darth Executor on February 27, 2008 at 3:25 PM

Hey Ed, are we looking at a possible Brokered convention?

Kini on February 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM

Democratic voters are considered subjects by the superdelegates. Blacks and other minorities believe they really have a voice in the democratic party. Reality is about to kick Obama in the butt. He has no idea the evil he is yet to face in his own party. The Clintons will not go away.

volsense on February 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM

They have a well-honed instinct for how candidates will be received in their own states and districts.

How is this 18-year old kid, who was on a date with Chelsea “well honed” and what is his expertise?

lorien1973 on February 27, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Imagine a Democrat’s boot stomping an American’s face – forEVER.

HockeyTemper on February 27, 2008 at 3:31 PM

I’m quite sure I saw Bob Beckel claim that he invented Super Delegates the other day on some FNC program.

Buy Danish on February 27, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Hey, maybe the superdelegates are the only ones smart enough to see that Obama disarmament video, and read the stuff about Rezko and Ayers and Dohrn and realize that Obama isn’t quite ready for prime time.

I sure as heck would be casting my superdelegate vote for HRC, if I had one.

funky chicken on February 27, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Orwell, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!

OhEssYouCowboys on February 27, 2008 at 3:19 PM

I love “Patton” paraphrasing!

Frozen Tex on February 27, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Orwell, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!

OhEssYouCowboys on February 27, 2008 at 3:19 PM

hahaha! I just watched Patton last night.

Mallard T. Drake on February 27, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Somebody remind me which of the two political parties are represent the “regular folks,” and which one is controlled by the elite and the few?

Mallard T. Drake on February 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Darth Executor on February 27, 2008 at 3:25 PM

That’s beside the point. If you are going to have a primary system in your party; rigging it to some peoeple have more say than others is dishonest, dont you agree?

lorien1973 on February 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Somebody remind me which of the two political parties are represent the “regular folks,” and which one is controlled by the elite and the few?

Mallard T. Drake on February 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM

I’m guessing “Regfolk” are represented by the party that gets most of its donations by way of $100 or less gifts from Joe Schmoes, as opposed to the party that gets most of its donations in much larger amounts from a much smaller, more “elite” group…

Frozen Tex on February 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Most of the animal kingdom is smarter than most democratic voters.
L

letget on February 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM

So, depending on who wins, can we reserve the right to say that they were “selected” not “elected?” heh.

I don’t see what the problem is, really. I mean, liberals always know what’s in everyone’s best interest, right? So everyone should just trust them to do the right thing because we recognize their superior intellect and experience.
/sarc

Lan Astaslem on February 27, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Selected, not elected!

saint kansas on February 27, 2008 at 3:54 PM

I don’t know if the Republican process is completely without fault here. I think “winner take all,” and “winner take all by district” cost Romney a decent chance at the nomination.

Mark Jaquith on February 27, 2008 at 3:57 PM

I love how anti-democratic the Democrats are, all the while proclaiming otherwise. If only people would stop listening to politicians and judge them by their actions. Then we might have better government.

Fritz J. on February 27, 2008 at 3:59 PM

Hunt tries to explain it in small words, so that Democratic primary voters can understand it.

Apparently not small enough because those voters are ignoring the signals from the “rat” cave. Clinton was supposed to be easily ushered into the nomination by Super Tuesday so that she and the party could start lobbing shells at the GOP, months before the general election, without having spent huge amounts of campaign cash on the primary contests. Now the party is stuck with the Clinton’s well established political machine on one hand and the popular vote of Democrats going to Obama. Neither side seems likely to be the VP on a shared ticket so the nomination process could well drag into the convention.

The only thing that would make me happier is if the GOP hadn’t botched its nomination process so that we had an electable candidate instead of the triceratops (the “RINO” dinosaur) that has alienated a good portion of the party’s base.

highhopes on February 27, 2008 at 4:02 PM

I have to agree with their logic. After watching all of the libs blindly following Obama like sheep I can see why the DNC wants to take the decision out their hands. Most voters are stupid and don’t deserve to vote. I think if you can’t identify who the speaker of the house is you should not be allowed to vote.

Erockk on February 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM

Good reason to continue to call them the democrat party and not the democratic party.

JiangxiDad on February 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM

Off topic a bit but..who is that in the picture? It looks like John Hurt the British actor.

MechEng5by5 on February 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM

So is Allah’s wit rubbing off on Capt’ Ed?

That wit wasn’t present at Capt’s Quarters.

Good Going Ed!

:D

Scott_T on February 27, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Someone must temper the foolishness and ignorance of the mindless masses; voilà . . . the Superdelegates.

rplat on February 27, 2008 at 4:15 PM

Women don’t lie about sexual assault, except for when they lie about Bill Clinton.

Voters counts, unless we don’t like who they pick.

We love the gays, so just ignore the ENDA and DOMA stuff.

We love the black guys too… as long as they limit their wins to places like South Carolina.

We love the Jews, but Hamas and Arafat are cooler!

We’re not racist, so ignore that Byrd guy… he’s changed.

We’re against the death penalty unless you’re a knocked-up secretary who’s partial to late night car rides with drunken Senators.

We believe in nation-building, unless the builder is a Republican.

Private jets cause global warming… so only those who believe in global warming are allowed to fly in private jets.

We want to help the working class, but WalMart is evil and MUST be destroyed.

Gartrip on February 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM

I wonder how many house and senate seats we’ll pick up when Mav beats the bejesus out of these elitists?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Off topic a bit but..who is that in the picture? It looks like John Hurt the British actor.

MechEng5by5 on February 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM

It is; that’s a still from “1984″.

Frozen Tex on February 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM

It’s ironic that the Democratic Party seems to have the bigger problem with democratic results.

It would be if it actually was the Democratic Party. But it is not, they are the DEMOCRAT Party.

Of course they like to have their name said incorrectly to help brainwash their voters…

Voidseeker on February 27, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Hey! I didn’t break anything this time!

Ed Morrissey on February 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM

CONGRATS!!!

Getting better at this whole blogging thing I see ;)

/humor

Voidseeker on February 27, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Why Superdelegates Royalists are smarter than Democratic voters

The Democratic voters can eat cake.

MB4 on February 27, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Ah, sweet and savory contempt for the voters. :)

ThePrez on February 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM

If they are the “Democratic” party, then what is the plural? Democratics? No, they do say “Democrats”, which gives lie to the whole “Democratic” renaming attempt.
In general elections, when I look at the ballot, the donkeys are listed as “Democrat”, not “Democratic”.

Micah on February 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Boom-bada-bing! Great post Cap’n. Can’t wait to drop this lil tidbit on my ‘enlightened’ co-workers. They haven’t gotten over the robbery in 00 and I am anxious to reinforce their fears. Being a Fifth Columnist is kinda fun.

Limerick on February 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Ah yes the elite telling the rest who is going to be the nominee. Yes Orwell had it right, “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.” Yes the Pigs in the Democrat Party rule. I am just waitingfor Big Brother to come and tell us wahtcarsand waht light bulbs we can buy, oops that is already here.

stix1972 on February 27, 2008 at 4:57 PM

All the more reason you crossovers need to vote for Obama. The Clintons will manipulate these delegates to their advantage. If she steals the nomination from Barry even though he has a clear majority of elected delegates, the Dems will be ripped asunder for years.

Valiant on February 27, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Valiant on February 27, 2008 at 5:08 PM

I crossed over, but the other direction. (I will never be able to get clean enough again)

Limerick on February 27, 2008 at 5:13 PM

Captain, I think I’m going to like you. Two old movie being referred to in one day.

Mooseman on February 27, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Now one the architects of the Democratic delegate structure defends the concept in today’s Washington Post by saying what no one else will — the Establishment is smarter than the electorate.

That assumption is almost certainly correct, and it isn’t a new one, either.

Two words: Electoral College.

paul006 on February 27, 2008 at 5:38 PM

I would just love for the the super delegates to overturn the primaries. You will see massive amounts of Democrats stay at home because they will feel betrayed by their party. Actually, if the race is close you may get that effect no matter who wins. I’m OK with that.

Buford on February 27, 2008 at 5:47 PM

I never knew about the whole superdelegate process until this election cycle and all I got to say is, they deserve what they get for being boneheads to allow a select few to choose for them. This is right on par with the stupidity that Washington state just passed into law (or they are in the process of it) in their electoral college will vote according to NATIONAL popularity votes and not that of the popularity votes of it’s Washington state citizens.

Apparently Washington citizens don’t care about their sovereignty as a state…..

I’m starting to see a pattern in dems logic, pure stupidity and lacking in seeing bigger pictures or seeing how a decision may bring upon consequences.

Highrise on February 27, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Stupor delegates is more like it.

Hog Wild on February 27, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Once upon a time the leaders of America thought that Americans were smart enough to make their own decisions about who those leaders should be.

Once upon a time…

29Victor on February 27, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Women don’t lie about sexual assault, except for when they lie about Bill Clinton.

Voters counts, unless we don’t like who they pick.

We love the gays, so just ignore the ENDA and DOMA stuff.

We love the black guys too… as long as they limit their wins to places like South Carolina.

We love the Jews, but Hamas and Arafat are cooler!

We’re not racist, so ignore that Byrd guy… he’s changed.

We’re against the death penalty unless you’re a knocked-up secretary who’s partial to late night car rides with drunken Senators.

We believe in nation-building, unless the builder is a Republican.

Private jets cause global warming… so only those who believe in global warming are allowed to fly in private jets.

We want to help the working class, but WalMart is evil and MUST be destroyed.

Gartrip on February 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Gartrip, that was Excellent! You’ve summed up the Democrat Party perfectly!

I see t-shirts by the boxful out of each one of those…with maybe “DNC” in big, bold RED letters or a RED Donkey with a Communist sickle on it’s derriere…yeah, that’s the ticket! And in case you wre wondering, “Why RED?”, red is the colour of all good communists.

dmh0667 on February 27, 2008 at 6:06 PM

So much for MLK’s Dream…

And how did the college become established in the first place? Was it not voted upon democratically? Can free people not vote to become less free?

Here’s a small thought exercise (comparable to taking a census of the direction of the rafts in the Cuban waters).

Divide the nation into purely blue, and purely red states. What would the flow be across that boundary? Symmetric? or Asymmetric?

I suspect the blue states would not require a virtual fence, or if they did, it would be oriented in a surprising, Berlin-like way.

But you have to give those elites their due… if the party can truncate democracy internally, just imagine what it can do for the whole nation.

shaken on February 27, 2008 at 6:24 PM

That’s beside the point. If you are going to have a primary system in your party; rigging it to some peoeple have more say than others is dishonest, dont you agree?

lorien1973 on February 27, 2008 at 3:45 PM

No, I don’t agree. Think of it as a soft drink company asking its customers for input on a new drink: they’ll certainly take their opinion into consideration but ultimately they can make whatever they want, and that’s the way it should be.

Darth Executor on February 27, 2008 at 6:55 PM

Although some complain about the winner-take-all states on the Republican side, the overall result reflects the popular vote — which the Democratic superdelegates can reject at whim, and Hunt argues that they should have that leeway.

The question of winner-take-all delegations has been addressed in connection with the Electoral College, with respect to which most of the States do have a winner-take-all arrangement. It’s said that proportional division of convention delegates or Electors would indirectly encourage candidates to focus their campaigns, even more than they already do, on a small number of highly populated areas. Winner-take-all delegations seem to require candidates to campaign broadly across the country. Letting a simple majority have their way is not the only issue in an election. Elected officials must govern an entire country and all its people, no matter where their supporters lived when they cast their votes. Thus, it seems best for officials to tend toward a broad acquaintance with all of the country’s regions and their affairs. Winner-take-all delegations seem to encourage such broad-mindedness.

Kralizec on February 27, 2008 at 8:50 PM

what no one else will — the Establishment is smarter than the electorate:

Well, with Democrats as the exclusive study sample here, he’s certainly right. In fact, the entire premise of Democrat Party politics is that the politicians are much smarter and, I might add, better looking than the unwashed Democrat ‘tards who vote for them. In fact, that’s precisely why Democrat voters vote for them. I think we all know that.

AUINSC on February 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM