It seems both the Americans and the Israelis would benefit from the American embassy’s being 1000 or 1500 miles within Israel.
Kralizec on February 27, 2008 at 8:16 PM

Am I missing a joke here?

Jerusalem is the capitol of Jewish Israel. The current Israeli government is the equivalent of us having Obama or Dennis Kucinich as president – they are idiots.

Jerusalem has been the capitol of Israel for at least 3200 years and it should be and will be until the arrival of the Moshiach.

georgealbert on February 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM

It’s bizarre how much how I agree with Georgealbert and yet I’m an atheist. Given how Israel came into existence, basing the location of its capital on ancient history does make sense. Even if the importance of Jerusalem comes from the Bible, I would argue that this use of the Bible for symbolic reasons is actually a secular argument. And I would oppose just about any other use of the Bible in our politics. I think the difference is that the reasons that the Jews relocated to Israel instead of Kenya or New York.

Now, if someone opposed gay marriage in Israel on the basis of the Torah, I would strongly disagree.

I have the fear that many people would think I’m being too nuanced here, but I’m willing to try to clarify my ridiculously complex claim that it is an acceptable secular argument to make Israel’s capital Jerusalem if anyone wants to ask a question.

Unfortunately, the current Israeli administration is not worthy of the Israeli people. I don’t know who is more dangerous, the islamofacists or the current Israeli administration.

Pres Bush has been a severe disappointment to say the least.

Jerusalem has been the capitol of Israel for at least 3200 years and it should be and will be until the arrival of the Moshiach.

Perhaps they recognized the provocative nature of the transfer. No other nation has its embassy in Jerusalem

How is it “provocative”? Provocative towards whom?
Aristotle on February 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM

It’s provocaive toward everyone who hates Jews.

Many Christian faiths see that city as holy as well and it would have caused consternation with Catholic and Orthodox faiths over having Jewish control of the city.

William Amos on February 27, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Too bad they don’t read what the Bible has to say about this.

- The Cat

Perhaps they recognized the provocative nature of the transfer. No other nation has its embassy in Jerusalem

How is it “provocative”? Provocative towards whom?

I don’t care what the bloggers, Senators, Presidents, UN, Palestinians,Hezballs, or whoever say, Jerusalem will not fall back into the power of non-Israelis again! Send all the armies, diplomats or whatever you want, Jerusalem will be jealously guarded by God Himself. Bring it on!

William Amos on February 27, 2008 at 1:43 PM

No bones here. Just trying to understand your point. I have become pretty attached to the concept of the state of Israel and her people and know that that can prejudice my viewpoints on her existence.

William Amos on February 27, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Not sure where you’re coming from on that one. Last I checked their hasn’t been a Othrodox or Catholic church erased by the Jewish government. Nor pilgrims guided away from any Christian place of interest. Disclaimer here though, I fly the Blue and White right beneath the Stars and Stripes.

Many Christian faiths see that city as holy as well and it would have caused consternation with Catholic and Orthodox faiths over having Jewish control of the city.

Has the jihadi world / politcal correctness / oil concerns neutered us so much ?

Dang.

Please remind me, who was the POTUS in August 1980?

Aristotle on February 27, 2008 at 12:17 PM

That would be every Terrorist’s & Dictator’s best friend, Jimmy Carter.

That army will fail miserably, too–something I’m rather interested in seeing.

I’d be interested in seeing that too, but considering the other things that would be going on in that time period (famine, plague, antichrist, etc.) I’d rather that not happen anytime soon…

No, Israel will never be wiped off the map. It’s been there since (basically) the beginning of time. It’ll be there long after, too.

But History teaches us that peace comes through strength, not through weakness.

Now with the prospect of having a Democrat in the White House, we probably will be witnessing in our lifetime the realization of the Iranian’s president prediction: Israel being wiped off the map.

I may sound repetitive, but it is true in the case of America, Israel and Europe:

The only enemy of a nation is its own people.

From decisions at the polling places to those made at the highest level of government, decisions can make or destroy a nation.

The UN Security Council, in UNSC resolution 478, declared that the 1980 Jerusalem Law declaring unified Jerusalem, including annexed East Jerusalem, as Israel’s “eternal and indivisible” capital was “null and void and must be rescinded forthwith” (14-0-1, with United States abstaining). The resolution advised member states to withdraw their diplomatic representation from the city as a punitive measure.

Before this resolution, thirteen countries maintained their embassies in Jerusalem: Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, the Netherlands, Panama, Uruguay, Venezuela. Following the UN resolution, all thirteen moved their embassies to Tel Aviv. Costa Rica and El Salvador moved theirs back to Jerusalem in 1984. Costa Rica moved its embassy back to Tel Aviv in 2006 followed by El Salvador a few weeks later.[9] [10] No international embassy remains in Jerusalem, although Paraguay and Bolivia have theirs in Mevasseret Zion, a suburb 10 km west of the city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positions_on_Jerusalem

United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 declared Israel’s 1980 “Jerusalem Law”, which declared Jerusalem to be Israel’s “eternal and indivisible” capital, was “null and void and must be rescinded forthwith”. This resolution called upon member states to withdraw their diplomatic missions from the city.

The vote on the resolution, which took place on August 20, 1980, was passed 14-0, with the United States abstaining.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_478

Please remind me, who was the POTUS in August 1980?