“Moderates have criticized Republicans and voted for Democrats pricisely 50% of the time in every election that’s ever been held.”
Logis, I would love to see this stat
Squid Shark on February 27, 2008 at 6:36 PM

I don’t mean to imply that you’re an idiot, but of course that is the definition of a “moderate.”

As the evil Rush Limbaugh is fond of saying, there is no book entitled Great Moderates Throughout History. That’s not because you are a poor, deprived minority; it’s because you are absolutely nothing – an utterly empty slate.

Of course no one ever has, and no one ever will, compromise with moderates. That’s not possible. Of course the only compromise is with the left.

Still, McCain’s response to Cunningham was pathetic… I really want to sit out the election, but with Obama or Clinton looming… I guess I have to vote for McCain.

I’m depressed. Is anyone else depressed? Does anyone remember laughter?!?

sdm

That is how we win, together. We worked with your ideas because they won elections. Now our man, strong on national defense, pro-life and pro-family without unnecessary intrusions into states rights, and strong on constructionist judges, will have his time, because the time is right.

Let’s see what “John” McCain does.”
Ignore him and concentrate on what he should, the general election.

““Presumptive nominee” sounds a lot like “inevitable candidate” to me.”
OK It is one thing to say that before a single election is held, McCain is 700+ ahead of Huckster, it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to get the nom even if he wins every delegate, he only has a slim hope at a brokered convention. This race is over, lets get to smacking the dems around.

Obama is untouchable… we’re screwed.

MT on February 27, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Hey, man. I don’t want Obama to win. I just don’t think McCain will be able to beat him. I can see the debates now, my friend.

stenwin77 on February 27, 2008 at 3:15 PM

McCain has not yet even shown himself man enough to debate Huckabee 1-on-1, so of course there is no reason to believe that McCain would be able to beat Obama.

I remind you that there was supposed to be a Republican Debate tomorrow night:

February 28th, 2008 – CNN Republican Debate
CNN and the Republican Party of Ohio were scheduled to have a Republican debate for February 28, 2008. However, it has been removed from the CNN debate schedule since John McCain is the presumptive nominee.

“Presumptive nominee” sounds a lot like “inevitable candidate” to me.

Huckabee has formally and directly invited McCain to debate him before next Tuesday’s primaries.

Let’s see what “John” McCain does.

quit the whining, help or get out of the way.
windansea on February 27, 2008 at 2:53 PM

A McCain presidency with an overwhelmingly blue Congress and a marginalized/demoralized conservative base is worse than an Obama presidency with a Republican congress and an energized base. That’s even if the guy could win in a general, which he won’t, short of a miracle.
spmat on February 27, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Wait a minute. Who’s the one doing the whining here?

Moderates have criticized Republicans and voted for Democrats pricisely 50% of the time in every election that’s ever been held.

But when, after twenty years of carrying the Party, some conservative Republicans finally get fed up enough to quit mindlessly supporting the leader of the ultra-left wing of the Republican Party, all of a sudden, we are the ones who need to shut up and get out of your way?

Well, let me think about your request there for a second…

Um, No.

OK, now that that’s settled, is there anything else you’d like to whine about?

And I also find it laughable that YOU are questioning my conservative bona fides simply because I denounced bigotry and needlessly inflammatory and bigoted rhetoric.
DaveS on February 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Knee-jerk, sanctimonious (and frankly idiotic) accusations of racism?

Yep. No liberal’s ever done THAT before!

Ohio hinges on getting the Republicans from the Cincinnati area out to vote. John McCain will lose Ohio without this area’s strong support. Cunningham is the top local radio host. Cincinnati conservatives love him and know he’s over the top sometimes.

I don’t think it’s good news for McCain that he went after Cunningham.

tanmany2k on February 27, 2008 at 12:10 PM

Lots of truth there.

Fact of the matter is, as a long time listener of the Cunningham show, I know that he often refers to MANY people by their full name. Senators, sheriffs, presidents, prosecutors, representatives, even weathermen have their full names used.

DaveS on February 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM

As far as I know Obama’s church leader is a radical that has named Farrakhan(sp) man of the year, who btw also happens to be a radical. I think of these connections upon hearing his full name, not of a former dictator in Iraq. I guess I’m a minority /shrug

My opposition to McCain is on his voting record, if that’s considered knee-jerk then so be it.
Bigot, racist, nativist, etc. are all used by liberals to shut down politial debate… that is what I see you doing. I am not questioning your beliefs about other issues because I don’t know you. The only thing I happen to know about you is that you seem to have a lot of time to defend the democratic nominee-to-be on these forums, and hurl insults at those who don’t agree with you of course.
I on the other hand have to get back to work.
Good day

BTW, enough with the racist, bigot, b.s. name calling, that has no place in the conservative movement. You sound like a Lib.

When someone repeatedly emphasizes someone’s given middle name–a name which by which they are not typically addressed and which they themselves do not typically use–simply to evoke images of Islamists and of the former Iraqi dictator, particularly when the middle name says more about his parents and grandparents and their geographic origins than it does about him, then that person can quite reasonably be denoted as a bigot. It isn’t name calling. It’s common sense. Bigots are not welcome here. The bloggers on this site have made their positions clear, as have a majority of commenters… you are not wanted in our party. Period.

And I also find it laughable that YOU are questioning my conservative bona fides simply because I denounced bigotry and needlessly inflammatory and bigoted rhetoric. I think that speaks volumes of you. As for your own brand of “conservatism”, it seems to be a blend of knee-jerk partisanship (for example, your opposition to McCain seems to be that he isn’t “Republican enough”) and victim-identity politics… you poor, oppressed wanna-be conservative… how horrible your life must be.

Vote for him or not I don’t care, quit the whining, help or get out of the way.

windansea on February 27, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Get bent, snoogums.

A McCain presidency with an overwhelmingly blue Congress and a marginalized/demoralized conservative base is worse than an Obama presidency with a Republican congress and an energized base. That’s even if the guy could win in a general, which he won’t, short of a miracle.

Well, I reject your assertion that by simply pointing out Obama’s questionable religious connections
with radicals by the use of his given name is bigotry.

Interesting… I don’t recall anyone doing that. The most effectively that anyone has done anything like that was Tim Russert in the most recent debate, and he didn’t even mention Obama’s middle name.

Can we quit pretending that needlessly mentioning his middle name is meant to somehow imply deep, probing questions? Wouldn’t it be convenient for you if that were believable though!

So, you yourself are more concerned about party affiliation than advancing conservatism. Interesting.

And I absolutely reject your assertion that the bigots running around parroting Obama’s middle name for no apparent reason beyond bigotry are “conservatives”. That’s absurd. They aren’t conservatives, and they have no place in the conservative movement.

DaveS on February 27, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Well, I reject your assertion that by simply pointing
out Obama’s questionable religious connections
with radicals by the use of his given name is bigotry.

Unless the definition has been changed without my knowledge,
McCain is not a conservative. I will not vote for someone who I disagree with on 95% of the issues simply because he defines himself as a “Republican”, therefore I am not a “party-man”.

BTW, enough with the racist, bigot, b.s. name calling, that has no place in the conservative movement. You sound like a Lib.

nope, I am retired and wealthy and live in Mexico. It will hurt you much more if you are still in the US trying to earn a living. Beside the security aspects of an Obama presidency, take a look at what he want to do with your income tax rates, double capital gains, renew death tax etc

good luck tough guy :)

windansea on February 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Hey, man. I don’t want Obama to win. I just don’t think McCain will be able to beat him. I can see the debates now, my friend.

No, actually, my feelings are not hurt. Not a bit. Will yours be hurt when Mr McUnelectable loses in November?

nope, I am retired and wealthy and live in Mexico. It will hurt you much more if you are still in the US trying to earn a living. Beside the security aspects of an Obama presidency, take a look at what he want to do with your income tax rates, double capital gains, renew death tax etc

good luck tough guy :)

Sheesh.

Don’t even bother quoting polls for about 6 to 7 months. They can, they will change. A LOT can happen before November.

Why does it pain McCain so much to try to get conservative support?

Nobody even said that you aren’t allowed to act like a 3rd grade bigot and unnecessarily and obnoxiously over-use his middle name when there is no need… you can do that, but you must surely be aware that people won’t like you. You have a right to be a bigot, but other people also have a right to tell you that you are aren’t really welcome in civilized, conservative circles. -DaveS on February 27, 2008 at 2:41 PM

wow, back to the name calling…you and hiney von poops, I swear. Let me guess… McCain supporter?
I don’t even think that “bigot” is Jimbo2008’s middle name, correct me if I’m wrong Jimbo.

BTW love all the blue-bloods around here.

And now you’re relishing in the fact that you have those normally staunch conservative Republicans over a barrel, forced to vote for your candidate? You people are amazing.

get a grip, there may be a few obnoxious McCain supporters here who enjoy provocation, I am not one of them. McCain was not in my top 3, but he beat the other guys fair and square and he is far and away a better choice than Obama.

Vote for him or not I don’t care, quit the whining, help or get out of the way.

Maybe if McCain could just pretend the dems were conservatives he’d have a better chance at winning?

So, you yourself are more concerned about party affiliation than advancing conservatism. Interesting.

And I absolutely reject your assertion that the bigots running around parroting Obama’s middle name for no apparent reason beyond bigotry are “conservatives”. That’s absurd. They aren’t conservatives, and they have no place in the conservative movement.

DaveS – Heaven forbid John McCain act like a decent human being toward a Democrat…

That’s not McCain’s problem… it’s how he acts towards conservatives that bothers me; i.e. calling them bigots, nativists, etc…

Maybe if McCain could just pretend the dems were conservatives he’d have a better chance at winning?

Oh yeah, can’t use Barack Hussein Obama’s REAL MIDDLE NAME…

You can use it… here is a time when it would be appropriate:

Questioner: Which Barack Obama were you talking about? Barack Jonathan Obama?
jimbo2008: Oh, no… I’m talking about Barack Hussein Obama.
Questioner: Ooooh, thanks for the clarification.

See how that works? It isn’t really all that complicated. I’m confident that even you can get your head around it. Nobody even said that you aren’t allowed to act like a 3rd grade bigot and unnecessarily and obnoxiously over-use his middle name when there is no need… you can do that, but you must surely be aware that people won’t like you. You have a right to be a bigot, but other people also have a right to tell you that you are aren’t really welcome in civilized, conservative circles.

And where did you get this really stupid idea that you aren’t allowed to call him a liberal or socialist? Maybe you should actually try pointing out that he is a liberal or socialist, instead of obsessing over his middle name like some sort of backwoods freakshow.

When you have people who would rather engage in demogoguery and namecalling to advance a party line,
DaveS on February 27, 2008 at 2:23 PM

“Namecalling?”

The only thing I can figure is that somebody has been referred to as an idiot so many times, he eventually forgot that’s not what it says on his birth certificate. All he knows is that it feels bad; ergo it must be evil.

…Pretty much explains all of liberalism in a nutshell.