Rumor: Ridge at the top of McCain’s VP shortlist?
posted at 1:49 pm on February 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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So says Goldfarb. Picking up Pennsylvania in the general is huge enough to make this a no-brainer, but read Stephen Hayes. Besides his home state, what does Ridge bring to the ticket? (Or is that enough?) He’s got the same strong points Maverick has, right down to his veteran status, and a major weakness for the social cons McCain needs to attract. And a point Hayes doesn’t make: Does McCain want to load himself up with any more Bush connections than is absolutely necessary? The Democrats are already framing his victory as a de facto third Bush term; running with a former cabinet member — who headed DHS, no less — makes it that much easier.
Exit question: Sarah Palin — now more than ever? (Exit answer: Why?)
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Bring on Sarah Palin – of Alaska.
American hero.
jake-the-goose on February 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Tom Ridge ain’t exactly Mr. Electricity. Here’s a very thorough analysis on McCain’s VP options, and Ridge isn’t in the top ten.
Is there any chance McCain will pick Cheney again?
Exurban Jon on February 26, 2008 at 1:53 PM
Sweet!
Ridge is a hometown boy and I’ve followed him for years. He was an immensely popular Republican in a hugely Democrat city (as a Congressman) and state (as governor), and not by pandering. Plus, as mentioned above, he’s an actual war hero (He served in Vietnam!).
I’ve always thought he was on track for the White House, but then Bush saddled him with the frankly unwinnable job as Director of Homeland Security.
I’m gay for Ridge!
saint kansas on February 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Mitt romney
al on February 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM
So Goldfarb wants Fred ? Thats intereting but liek Risge that makes the ticket too much older.
Personally after thinking about it Id love to see a young but qualified Conservative who is a thinking and a doer. A version of Ronald Reagan in his 40s or 50s that can give good speeches. McCain can be the top of the ticket while a young firebrand can run around the country.
The conservatives really need a great spokesman now and should unite behind him for the future.
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Tom ridge is not pro life
al on February 26, 2008 at 1:56 PM
To me….refreshing. She seems like she could bake damn good cookies while centering the crosshairs of her .308 on the target.
Limerick on February 26, 2008 at 1:57 PM
I rather like Sarah Palin as VEEP.
It would bring new thinking to color coding terrorist threats.
National Terrorism Level is Now Chartreuse
Kini on February 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Yeah, Palin! “Why?” You have to ask?
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on February 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM
I like what I’ve read about her, but when she talks, she sounds like an extra from “Fargo.”
asc85 on February 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM
A slight cut above Lieberman.
jukin on February 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM
No race or gender pandering VP please
PrezHussein on February 26, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Don’t know enough about Palin but it would be very interesting, picking a black VP would not make any difference most would vote Dem anyway
KBird on February 26, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Yea. I clicked the item on the front page, and fell asleep before this page loaded.
eeyore on February 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM
So Obama’s energy stance concerning Alaska gives Palin heartburn, but McCain’s stance is…?
amkun on February 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Ridge works.
Mike Honcho on February 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM
If they’re young and solidly conservative (unlike McCain on both counts), why not? Palin fits that mold. She brings no electoral votes, but that’s not her function.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on February 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Feel that warm trickle down your back? And J-Mac’s softly reassuring oh-now-so-conveniently-conservative voice delivering the weather report?
LimeyGeek on February 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Hmmmm, and if there is any hint that McCain likes to wear womens clothing then we could go from straight talk express to lipstick lounge after-hours.
Kini on February 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM
I feel a paraphrased quote from “O Brother” hoving into view
LimeyGeek on February 26, 2008 at 2:07 PM
BTW still pushing for Kasich
Kasich busts Atheist pusher
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzG7l5P9wO8
Kasich busts Silky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9fnYCDahcs
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Isn’t there some general somewhere avialable so when McCain kicks the bucket in office we can have a strong CnC that will take the fight to the enemy?
unseen on February 26, 2008 at 2:08 PM
He’s pro-abortion. Forget it.
Sydney Carton on February 26, 2008 at 2:08 PM
With Flintstone jowls like that? That dude’s a survivor.
LimeyGeek on February 26, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Does he know anything about the economy?
phronesis on February 26, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Didn’t Ridge kind of screw up Homeland Security and they had to get that Chertoff guy to clean up his mess?
Nor is it a guarantee he can deliver Pennsylvania.
Pass.
miles on February 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Don’t say that and then try to tell me it’s raining!
Brat on February 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Tom Ridge? You’ve got to be kidding me. Who’s going to get excited about that? Seriously. I think Ridge would be pretty lame pick. Next…
CP on February 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Tom Ridge? For VP? Great!!
Now you can see the other side of the liberal coin, the one of the “Republican Party.”
Maybe McCain and Ridge can entertain the terrorists and sing for them instead of using other methods they claim to be “torture.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22735168/
Read the rest here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22735168/
Indy Conservative on February 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Can it be color-coded?
LimeyGeek on February 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Mauve the Maverick
Kini on February 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Putting a RINO on a ticket that has very little conservative support already is exactly what I would have expected from McCain.
When are you McCainites ging to face reality?
Valiant on February 26, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Chertoff? The cabbage? He couldn’t organise a shag in a whorehouse.
LimeyGeek on February 26, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Interesting.
Working here in Alaska and have met Gov. palin, she is honestly a neat lady. But she has said since the start for the Presidential het throw in (since she was asked and has been asked time and time again) if she would be the VP? Due to her strong ethics and Conservative background, she is a prime candidate. I would be honored if she did become the Veep… BUT… She has said NOT THIS TIME. She wants to finish with the Alaska term and then look at it. She is a Woman of her Word, I will tell you that. Sarah is a honest to God, ethical and good person who is doing what she was voted for. Not what everyone else (legislature or other government entities) wants her to do in the State of Alaska.
I am very happy I voted for Sarah!
upinak on February 26, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Ohhh, noooo! Tell me it ain’t so, John! Almost anyone would be more inspiring than Tom Ridge. He’s the bureaucrat’s bureaucrat and very, very boring. (I should know. I live in PA)
Palin’s an interesting prospect. Worth studying up on her.
petefrt on February 26, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Ridge doesn’t do anything for me. Oh, and he’s against water boarding? I think McCain can do better, not that it will matter anyway. At this point, it just feels like going through the motions.
Geronimo on February 26, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Marsha Blackburn, Congresswoman from TN… a real conservative hottie.
Or, my personal fav -MITT ROMNEY !
stenwin77 on February 26, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Chertoff the carny. He’s got small hands and smells of cabbage.
{snicker}
Kini on February 26, 2008 at 2:18 PM
It’s worse than that AP, Ridge couldn’t even bring home PA for McCain.
Fast Eddie pulls all the strings around here. The PA voters tossed Santorum out on his ears, and re-elected the Republican pretender, Arlen Specter. The big cities determine election results here in the Keystone State, and unfortunately there are not enough upper-middle class voters in the burbs to have any impact on changing PA from blue to red.
There’s no such thing as a VP choice who could turn the tide in PA. Chalk it up as a loss, again.
fogw on February 26, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Tom Ridge is the political equivalent of Velveeta cheese.
Always Right on February 26, 2008 at 2:18 PM
LimeyGeek on February 26, 2008 at 2:09 PM
I will be honestly surprised if he makes it thru one term. Either way I don’t see him running for a second term therefore his VP pick should be the next REP nominee come 2012.
So the pick is much more important for McCain then say BHO. But if I was BHO I would pick Hillary. That way no one in there right/left mind would think of harming BHO. except maybe Hillary.
unseen on February 26, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Terrifying ;)
Actually, first time I clapped eyes on him I thought of Laurence Olivier’s “Weisse Engel” in “Marathon Man”.
Our country is most definitely not “safe” in his hands.
LimeyGeek on February 26, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Not happening. Tom Ridge wouldn’t make a difference in Pennsylvania, a state that has gotten more blue by the minute. Hell, Mav’s moderate positions are just fine without the help of Ridge. It will be Lindsey Graham. He has to keep the country in mind with the choice. He won’t throw it away like Bush sr. did with Dan Quayle. Ouch. Graham and Mav are like brothers and if he doesn’t get vp he’ll be Secretary of State. Take it to the bank. It cannot and will not be Romeney, regardless of what his son Josh keeps flappin’ his lips about. Mav has to much respect for the country to ever have Mitt the phony second in line. Maybe Mitt could be chairman of state parks or something.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 26, 2008 at 2:22 PM
NO NO NO Ridge…..YES Romney.
apoole on February 26, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Someone please remind me….
was Tom Ridge able to deliver Penna for Bush in ‘04?
Always Right on February 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Yeah, but did he take any of George Soro’s money?
Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Always Right on February 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Hell no. He Sucks.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 26, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Here’s a list of people who will NOT be the VP pick:
Michael Steele
Sarah Palin
Bobby Jindal
J.C. Watts
John Kasich
Marsha Blackburn
What do they have in common? They all have relatively little political experience, and all but Kasich would seem like an Affirmative Action pick. I just thought I’d get that out of the way before speculation gets out of hand.
Big S on February 26, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Looks like the “Its My Party Too” gang are about to take over the Republican Party.
Why not just pick Christie Tood Whitman and kill the Conservative Wing of the Republican Party once and for all?
Look for a Pro-choice platform in the GOP’s future.
EJDolbow on February 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM
If we’re going on the theme of ex-governors of swing states who remain popular and served in the Bush administration, what about Tommy Thompson? He’s about as dynamic as Ridge is, but he doesn’t have the abortion problem.
Big S on February 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM
You know, for someone with little political experience, Sarah Palin has been asked since the start. Are you “sure” about that statement? Before I laugh that is.
upinak on February 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Kasich is on your list? The FNC chap? Seriously? Saints preserve us!
LimeyGeek on February 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Fit Chertoff with a grey wig and you have ringer.
Actually, I couldn’t see McCain setting the VEEP bar low enough to throughly dash any chance of winning by choosing Ridge.
Kini on February 26, 2008 at 2:28 PM
It has been for decades – red or black.
America is always in the red – and just wait for the Socialist President to grab it by the neck.
OhEssYouCowboys on February 26, 2008 at 2:29 PM
The more I see of Palin the more I really like her. But she’s not ready yet, and unlike Obama, knows it. Good for her. She seems like a great lady. I do hope to see more of her nationally in the future.
Redhead Infidel on February 26, 2008 at 2:30 PM
She won’t be Veep… she is too conservative for anyone running right now. But I would bet she will be there in the Future for sure.
upinak on February 26, 2008 at 2:31 PM
No, he’s not on my list of preferred VP selection. Somebody, or a few somebodies, keep mentioning him in these forums, though. The list I gave was to point out the no-chance-in-hell picks that many on this site like to mention.
Big S on February 26, 2008 at 2:31 PM
I agree 100%. PLEASE first look at a candidates qualificiations and make sure their record is stellar.
Oink on February 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Inhofe would be my short list, but I doubt McCain would see any value.
Kini on February 26, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Kasich is an ex congressman(6 terms) who is well respected from Ohio and one of Gingrich’s top LTs on the budget. He is well versed in Economics and is a very good conservative.
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Politico is reporting a film about Abramoff is coming out that will highlight McCain’s role. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHhhh. lol
I hope he doesn’t get to far into shooting this thing before he finds out Mav was Abramoff’s worst nightmare. lol
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM
The rumor I have heard is Mike Bloomberg…that rumor may have been started by my father, but still, I heard it.
beefytee on February 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM
beefytee on February 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Mike Bloomberg
hopefully he comes into the race as a third party. splits the dem base to shreds and leads to a rep victory.
unseen on February 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Sorry got my facts wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kasich
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Although… if Gov. Palin could talk McCain into allowing drilling at ANWR, I might begin to like her as long as she isn’t a RINO.
Oink on February 26, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Ridge LOL snore. But suggesting him does make Fred look extremely charismatic even on his worst day on the stump. (full disclosure, I donated $$ to Fred and like him)
Otherwise I can’t even understand why you would bring up his name.
Kasich is kinda mean, isn’t he? Probably want somebody with a little sunnier demeanor.
funky chicken on February 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM
I’ll give you all a name to ponder for Veep… he’s a friend of Maverick, thinks a lot like him (which Mav will find valuable) and he has NATIONAL stature from the git-go and can attract swing state independents….
ready????
wait for it……
Rudy Giuliani.
Always Right on February 26, 2008 at 2:44 PM
I still like Sanford.
funky chicken on February 26, 2008 at 2:45 PM
I love Rudy, but he’s pro-choice. It’s a damn shame, but the GOP is what it is, and has an absolute abortion litmus test….even though the VP would have exactly nothing to do with abortion.
funky chicken on February 26, 2008 at 2:46 PM
The description hits the nail on the head. He didn’t present himself well, IMO, when he was head of Homeland Security.
He is also pro-abortion. He would only be the idea of someone who’d been in the D.C. bubble too long.
As someone else said above, he would be a totally lame choice and would bring nothing to the ticket that McCain needs. This pick would only bring some new reasons to be mad at McCain.
INC on February 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Steve Hayes has an important post on Tom Ridge’s veep prospects over at the Standard’s refashioned blog.
Ridge would probably be the closest thing for McCain to that rarest of finds: a hybrid pick.
By this I mean that he is somebody who fills the traditional running-mate role of bringing assets to the ticket which the nominee lacks. See, for example, Cheney’s gravitas and foreign policy background in 2000. In the former Pennsylvania governor’s case, it would be extensive domestic experience and ties to a key battleground state.
But Ridge would also offer something similar to the atraditional model, best demonstrated by Clinton tapping Gore in ‘92. This,of course, is picking somebody who brings to bear similar attributes of the nominee and reinforces his strengths in an effort to fit the dynamics of the era.
In the case of Clinton, that was in going with another Southern Baptist moderate baby boomer. For McCain and Ridge, it would be adding another decorated veteran with national security bona fides.
So what’s the downside?
This is why Hayes’ post is so instructive.
Ridge also happens to be pro-choice, something that would render him unacceptable to an important element in the GOP coalition.
“I don’t know how you could nominate a pro-choice VP without a real backlash from the party,” McCain told reporters on his plane last month, when asked about Mike Bloomberg.
Especially given McCain’s problems with his own party, he is more likely to hew to the Hippocratic Oath when it comes to picking a veep: First, do no harm.
Which would make Ridge, who got a good look in 2000, once again a bridesmaid.
politico
al on February 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM
funky… I know, I know… we went thru all this back in the fall. I just think that somehow all that increases his appeal to the Maverick who is, after all, a MAVERICK.
As for me, I’d find Sanford or Pawlenty or guys like that totally acceptable and probably either one a shrewd strategic choice.
Always Right on February 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM
The VP candidate definitely needs to be a no-nonsense non-appeaser, non-defeatist like Gen. George Patton who would tell the religious fanatics of the world that his right hand is on that big red button most of the day and night and that he’s becoming a little angry.
Travis1 on February 26, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Tom Ridge??? Sorry, two seriously-old white guys are not going to cut it. Can you just see them together at a rally? Oooh, the energy!
If McCain really wants to run seriously, he needs to pick someone who is 21st-century, someone who can appeal to and who knows how to talk to people under 40. I’m okay with John Kasick. What about Michael Steele? Condi would be good if she were interested.
McCain’s problem is that any good Veep pick is likely to upstage him.
Soory, folks, we tried to get you all behind MItt while you had the chance.
BigD on February 26, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Nice to see that McCain shows some conviction of principle re: choosing a pro-life VP. And yeah, since I’m pushing the GOP lever with my middle finger this year, it would be nice to have a VP choice that doubles as a primary vote for 2012. Sweeten the deal, Johnny Mac.
TexasDan on February 26, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Yeah, Ridge always came across to me as sort of boring and inept when he was Director of Homeland Security.
INC on February 26, 2008 at 2:54 PM
I’m not saying that Kasich wasn’t good, or accomplished in his political career, but he never made it out of the House. How many people go straight from the House of Representatives to a national ticket? Ferraro is the last one I remember, and you’ll probably have to go way back to find another one. Also, Kasich has been out of government for a while, and people other than his biggest fans are likely to be underwhelmed by the pick.
Big S on February 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Ridge? Please, no. When he was at Homeland Security I always had this odd feeling we were about to be blown up and he was running around going “Where’s that blow up memo?”
And sorry, but Palin looks and sounds like a Jersey girl who married a guy from Minnesota and spent so much time with her sisters in law she picked up their odd accent.
I like Rudy. I like Haley Barbour. I like Jindal but think it’s too soon. Michael Steele is impressive, but when it comes to big elections he’s a loser. I like Blackwell, though he’s a recent loser too. On the other hand, Ohio’s going to be important in 08. And I think Romney’s a good choice if McCain can get over being pissed off at him.
Now, who’s Obama likely to choose?
Rational Thought on February 26, 2008 at 2:56 PM
unseen on February 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM
He claims he won’t enter the race because he knows he can’t win.
It is a shame though, I’m actually starting to get behind McCain a bit, and it would be nice going into November with nothing to worry about.
beefytee on February 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Palin seems to make sense in four years. The Dims specialize in running people far before they’re ready, not the Repubs. Ridge, while not Mr. Charisma, and no doubt the MSM will have a field day reminding us of his “color coded” warning nonsense, is a solid dude. He also doesn’t make McCain look incredibly liberal by comparison. McCain can’t really nominate a Veep who the conservatives would prefer over him. Just not gonna happen. Any conservative who would rather vote Obama or Nader or sit the election out instead of voting McCain cannot be placated anyway.
Sugar Land on February 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Be very, very frightened of this man.
Big S on February 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Crap. OK, I retract my gayness for Ridge. You’ve changed, man!
Are you sure it’s too late for Thompson/Romney? I don’t vote until next week…
saint kansas on February 26, 2008 at 2:59 PM
I Would love mitt Romney to be the guy
1 The economy is going to be the big issue
2 Conservative cred.
3 Would make some purple states solid red colorodo,nevada,
4 May bring Michigan to the table
5 Age he is 12 years younger then McCain
6 Good looks, energy, fond raising grassroots skills
7 Was a gov. executive experience
8 The only gov that got something done in health care
9 Clean family no baggage or what so ever
10 outside Washington
al on February 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM
P.S. What’s Ken Blackwell up to? I still have campaign signs in my garage I could recycle.
saint kansas on February 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Hoping for Mitt Romney (but it wont happen). McCain has no vision.
hanzblinx on February 26, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Ridge is just dull. McCain needs somebody young and vibrant to counter Obama. I say he should bury the hatchet and choose Romney.
fleiter on February 26, 2008 at 3:02 PM
hanzblinx on February 26, 2008 at 3:02 PM
McCain is more interested in getting himself elected than he is in the future of the party
beefytee on February 26, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Mitt has been out of government for a while as well so your point is ?
McCain is weak on economics and conservatism and youth and Kasich gives him all three of those. Kasich is Catholic and that is a big bonus for those voters. He is popular in Ohio which is a key big swing state. Hes a budget hawk who is vicious on earmarks and hates wasteful spending which compliments McCain on that issue. Plus he is well know amoung House republicans while someone like Mitt or Palenty or any other governor is not. That makes it easier for him to work with Congress as he knows its ways. Plus he left office in 2000 so he isnt tainted with any Bush connection.
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 3:04 PM
The rationale for Pawlenty remains the strongest, but that doesn’t make him likely as in better than 50-50. Until the decision is actually made, rumors from the great mentioner will continue to circulate, inspiring McCain-haters and whomever-haters to go off half-cocked on schedule, but mainly serving to honor one or another loyal ally and his or her constituency.
Another dark horse name: Shelley Capito of WV Main drawback is she’s only a Representative. I think the hope for now is she’ll run to replace Robert Byrd in 2012.
CK MacLeod on February 26, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Romney’s mormonism would seriously hurt McCain in the South and west and Mitt has too many hard feelings between him and McCain. It will not be Mitt Romney he also adds nothing geographically.
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM
While I love her the problem is that her Father was an ex governor of WV and convicted of fraud. That would be used against her. (and was in her race in WV)
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Romney’s mormonism would seriously hurt McCain in the South and west and Mitt has too many hard feelings between him and McCain. It will not be Mitt Romney he also adds nothing geographically.
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM
1 The economy is going to be the big issue
2 Conservative cred.
3 Would make some purple states solid red colorodo,nevada,4 May bring Michigan to the table
5 Age he is 12 years younger then McCain
6 Good looks, energy, fond raising grassroots skills
7 Was a gov. executive experience
8 The only gov that got something done in health care
9 Clean family no baggage or what so ever
10 outside Washington
al on February 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM
The issue with Romney is that he is far more presidential than McCain. Mitt has has three-time executive credentials: CEO, Olympics head, and Governor. He’s younger, nicer, smarter, more appealing. McCain would be easily upstaged.
Bottom line: McCain would need Mitt far more than Mitt would need McCain. And Mitt can do far better without him — as he has already proven.
BigD on February 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Tom Ridge? Somebody pass the duct tape and plastic sheeting.
I would like to see Michael Steele as Veep/ fight pander with substance.
BTW Marsha Blackburn is a hottie
boxcardriver on February 26, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Here is a brilliant choice that nobody has thought of: Sam Alito!!! He brings New Jersey into the fold and he can siphon off lots of votes from Italian-Americans in key states and “the base” knows that he is not some sort of John Lindsay-Nelson Rockefeller type of Republican.
Now he may not want the job when he has a great job for life and he does not have a boss in his current job. But once McCain lays the patriotism guilt trip on him, Sam might just do it. If McCain would only listen to me, he would have a reasonable shot at winning in November.
Larraby on February 26, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Byron York had an excellent article, McCain’s Veep Problem, in which he spoke with Pawlenty and Sanford:
INC on February 26, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Oh my god I totally forgot about this. Being an urban dweller, I had all that stuff too.
beefytee on February 26, 2008 at 3:24 PM
The Dems would chortle with glee using duct tape in their ads and posters.
INC on February 26, 2008 at 3:28 PM
“Why?”, indeed. Answering your exit question with an exit answer which is, itself, an exit question has confused me. Where did this Palin topic come from in the first place?
DaveS on February 26, 2008 at 3:37 PM
i think palin would be great!
its vintage duh on February 26, 2008 at 3:38 PM
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