Open thread: The “Get Bambi!” debate
posted at 8:23 pm on February 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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9 p.m. ET on MSNBC. Last chance for our gal, for realsies. The boss, cynic that she is, has already liveblogged it in Laphamesque fashion. In the unlikely event that either party veers from the script — we’re in a cooldown stage, after all — we’ll have video here later. If you’re looking for schadenfreude, enjoy Clinton crony Leon Panetta taking a ceremonial dump on ace Hillary pollster Mark Penn. If it’s Messiah reading you want, take your pick: Newsweek offering him as the first woman president or the Wash Times suggesting that the Pentagon’s wringing its hands at the thought of a true blue lefty C-in-C (“A senior Pentagon official said an Obama swearing-in ‘will give the Arab street the final victory, the best optics, and the ultimate in bragging rights. They win. We lose.’”) We know from the left’s incessant pounding of the chickenhawk meme that only the military really knows what it’s talking about in matters of war, so weigh that accordingly.
I believe. I still believe.
Update: “One member said the only way he wouldn’t vote for Clinton is if he died.”
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Good Lord.
Hillary just doesn’t understand economics.
Oh well, neither do most democrats.
VolMagic on February 26, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Obamessiah keeps trying to interject a word, and Shrillery keeps talking right over him. You go girl! He can’t score if he can’t talk. Anyone keeping running time-of-possession for both teams? Keep the ball on the ground and keep pounding away to ultimately set up the long bomb. Jeez… football season’s only been over for a few weeks and I’m getting crazy already.
Oh, and the brown blazer? Isn’t that identical to the infamous bumble-bee, just in a different color?
bofh on February 26, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Ouch. Her whining tirade just sealed her fate
Baphomet on February 26, 2008 at 9:21 PM
Anybody else watching in HD? Hilldawg looks like she has some botox when they do a profile shot.
swami on February 26, 2008 at 9:22 PM
@ swami on February 26, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Gladly her face is blurred on my SDTV.
muyoso on February 26, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Bam didn’t do diddly in Chicago, or Illinois, for that matter.
He’s been my rep since ‘99 and sh*t ain’t no different.
And, it’s not like IL or Chicago are red.
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:23 PM
You know what has devestating costs Obama? Protectionism. Trying to keep America in a 1950’s economy. That has devastating costs. Yeesh.
VolMagic on February 26, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Let’s see, the gov’t brings us NAFTA. The govt. program NAFTA didn’t work out so well, sooooooooo….. let’s give them the entire healthcare system.
Over30 on February 26, 2008 at 9:24 PM
New “Drinking Game” people:
1. Get your favorite beverage of choice…. (preferably with some alcohol in it to ease the pain of this).
2. Here we go….. Everytime either Mrs. Mao Pant Suit or “BHO” (or “BO” if we can’t use the “H” word anymore) talk with their hands in sync (with each other) as they try to talk over each other, making the same point, while trying to sound different……….. take a swig.
Let’s see how many of us start drinking just to endure this…… Good Luck, and the winner, well the winner gets the pleasure of possibly forgeting this evening….
Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Entire cities devastated, buildings just fell over, I mean that thing got passed and buildings actually fell over. It was horrible.
If we could just import cheap labor instead of moving the factories everything would be solved, no, wait. Maybe if we kill the unions, no, wait.
sunny on February 26, 2008 at 9:25 PM
I’m waiting for someone to start blaming Canada for NAFTA not being good for Ohio.
JollyRoger on February 26, 2008 at 9:25 PM
DAMN, they are ripping her to SH*T. Hilarious.
muyoso on February 26, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Hillary’s stare is gonna burst timmy’s hair into flames.
Dang. If looks could kill…
VolMagic on February 26, 2008 at 9:25 PM
She keeps stepping in front of their punches.
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Tim and Brian have her on defense.
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:26 PM
How awesome would it be if one of the moderators use the “pimping” reference again. I wonder if they have the b@lls.
muyoso on February 26, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Hey Hillary, if you renegotiate NAFTA, do you still plan on ridiculously calling it the North American Free Trade Agreement?
It would be pretty stupid to say “we will opt out of it unless we renegotiate it”? Renegotiating it is opting out of it, at least the way she plans on renegotiating it.
Mark V. on February 26, 2008 at 9:26 PM
ding, ding, ding…winner, winner, chicken dinner
sunny on February 26, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Oh Look Hillary is being assaulted by evil Men again
/Feminists
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Hillary, would you say you were “pimping” NAFTA when your husband was president and when you were running for senate? OMFG I would laugh forever.
muyoso on February 26, 2008 at 9:27 PM
OH, don’t be so hard on the Boy King!
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Wow, they were really grilling the Hildebeest.
doubleplusundead on February 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM
And Bill was pissed at Mike Wallace?
Brian and Timmy are bltch-slapping her.
fogw on February 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Nice shade of lipstick on Obama.
Please let Hillary start yawning when he’s talking. Please.
SouthernGent on February 26, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Not lipstick; his lips are always bluish.
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:29 PM
I’m sort of young, but was JFK as much of a empty-skulled bonehead as Barry?
I can’t imagine he was.
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Next on CNN “Why is MSNBC so mean to hillary ? Wolf Blitzer takes in indepth look for our network to see how sexist they really are…”
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
SOFTBALL! Tell us what is wrong with America! Hillary should BS Tim.
Limerick on February 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Chris … Wallace.
fogw on February 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
What do ya mean if? Democrats should already know the answer to that, of course they don’t count, if the DNC wanted the peon votes to count, there would be no super delegates.
Welcome to the Democrat National Commie party.
Speakup on February 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Russert tries to pull a “gotcha” with our girl on NAFTA. Meanwhile, Brian Williams is under the desk washing the Messiah’s feet.
malan89 on February 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Is it just me or is Russert doing a good job setting them up just to sucker punch them?
p0s3r on February 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
All right, I’m just gonna come right and say it, I don’t care how callous it sounds. If you haven’t gone to school to learn some kind of skill, in light of the trend of over half a century, you deserve to be out of a job.
I know, I know, nobody deserves to be out of a job.
Mark V. on February 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Obvious sign there’s not enough oxygen getting to his head.
Which explains his “knowledge” of the economy.
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Gosh, they have PLANS.
The Alternate Plan! To save the world, we need a PLAN.
YES! THE ALTERNATE PLAN!!!
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM
(conhtinued)
But then, nobody really deserves “free” health care, either.
Mark V. on February 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM
WTF? No follow-up question for Barry?
fogw on February 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Anyone want to test NAFTA?
Try selling cheaper, better quality milk from Southern California farms in a Tijuana market?
You will be dead before you exit your car.
Hmmmmm, I wonder what would happen when you sign trade agreements with countries that are so corrupt, their criminals have to come here illegally, because it is so bad back at home?
Neither of these two a$$clowns have any idea what to do in the real world seperated from their handlers and campaign cash.
This is pathetic……..
Seven Percent Solution on February 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM
lol
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:31 PM
I feel like I’m Charlie Brown listening to the “grown ups”
nemo239 on February 26, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Damn, they are actively TRYING to bury Hillary now. This is the most skewed debate I have ever seen. Its not even close to being fair so far.
muyoso on February 26, 2008 at 9:32 PM
“Shared Prosperity”
flyboy777 on February 26, 2008 at 9:32 PM
I say I can name that tune in five million new jobs Tim.
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:32 PM
“green collar jobs”
Drink!
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Ohhhh…It’s Bush’s fault upstate NY didn’t get the 200,000 jobs. Now why didn’t I think of that?
Connie on February 26, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Huh? How come unemployment went down nation-wide and it went up in NY Hills? You disengenous hussie.
VolMagic on February 26, 2008 at 9:33 PM
“When I made that pledge, I was counting on Al Gore being President.”
What kind of leader makes excuses, Hillary?
Mark V. on February 26, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Let’s try and be more like Germany.
Good idea Hill.
fogw on February 26, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Pile on Bush time.
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Achtung, baby.
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Brian looks smart with glasses on.
Wait, not really, he’s still the same wooden imbecile.
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:34 PM
From 2004 campaign:
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/2/25/171833.shtml
Al Gore my but, she did nothing in the senate but not get in trouble…
sunny on February 26, 2008 at 9:34 PM
They are going to blame Bush as always..
j0 on February 26, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Did he really just ask him why one of Hillary’s attack was unfair?
muyoso on February 26, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Pock-e-stahn
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I mean, Barry is an idiot.
POKistan. Massatoosits.
Is this mannequin the best they can give us?
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM
“Pock-i-ston”
“Tolly-Bonn”
Jeez, this guy is on my last nerve.
bofh on February 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Sure. But has it ever been tested?
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Hillary: “When I am president, I will have a lot more tools at my discretion..”
truer words…
Over30 on February 26, 2008 at 9:37 PM
You went to Bejing and stood up for human rights in China Hills? How’d that turn out?
VolMagic on February 26, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Au contraire:
“We are bogged down in a war that Senator McCain suggests might go one for a hundred years, or more…”
“Bogged down” is apparently Democrat speak for “kicking ass and taking names”.
profitsbeard on February 26, 2008 at 9:38 PM
You go girl!
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:38 PM
I bet he can pronounce Ahmadinejad correctly.
fogw on February 26, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Nice retort on the war vote from Hillary.
She needs to step off the Pakistan thing.
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:38 PM
We are doomed with if anyone one of them makes it to the WH.
j0 on February 26, 2008 at 9:38 PM
The video feed is buffering left,right and centre,
anybody have a different link for MSNBC!
canopfor on February 26, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I actually listened to JFK’s speeches and believe it or not Obama’s speeches are almost deja’vu for me. Full of hope and not much in the way of substance. JFK wasn’t stupid, neither is Obama. Consummate orators able to sway the masses with flowery words with no substance. History is full of such people.
Oldnuke on February 26, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Hillary giving crap to Barak for saying he would bomb Pakistan. Huh?
Didn’t we just do that a couple weeks ago and hit a cache of Al-queda peaceniks.
Over30 on February 26, 2008 at 9:39 PM
Opps Bob Byrd in the hospital
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23360150/from/RSS/
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 9:40 PM
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDIzM2QxMWZhM2QyZDQ0MWI3N2I0YWIzM2I1NWI2NTI=
ninjapirate on February 26, 2008 at 9:40 PM
He still didn’t have to vote.
And his “high stakes” opponent was Alan Keyes!
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Obama, “I was involved in a senate campaign”
You mean the one where you promised not to run for president if elected?
fogw on February 26, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I can’t even bring myself to watch those two imbeciles… but following the comments here is HILARIOUS. Thank you one and all… :-)
D2Boston on February 26, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Driving a bus into a ditch?
In Massatoosits or POKeestahn?
LOL. Were there any bombs in that bus Barry?
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:41 PM
“The first question initially is who drove the bus into the ditch?”
I thought it was “how the hell do we get the bus out of this ditch”? Says everything you need to know about Dem priorities.
Mark V. on February 26, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Maybe there’s a reason Obama keeps harping about
PUCK-IS STAN!,probably not a good reason either!
canopfor on February 26, 2008 at 9:41 PM
“Paukee stan”? and he whines about ethnic attacks? You know, Cunningham didn’t go anywhere near ethnicity today. He only described Mr. O’s lame brained complacency.
nemo239 on February 26, 2008 at 9:41 PM
As a resident of upstate ny, I can say for sure it isn`t Bush`s fault we`re in such trouble. Taxes, fees, let`s raise `em all: says our legislature.
ThePrez on February 26, 2008 at 9:42 PM
He’d be into having a safety partnership in Iraq for our nat’l security interests?
Um …
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Pok-ees-tahn?
Tollie-bahn?
Is this from the John “Jenjiss Khan” Kerry School of pronunciation?
Pompous Schmuck.
profitsbeard on February 26, 2008 at 9:43 PM
That was an odd, soft ball question for Barack
HusseinObama. “Will you leave if the Iraqi government says to get out?”DUuuuuuuuh.
SouthernGent on February 26, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Frank Luntz focus group: Hillary is dominating? I refuse to watch it, but can I get a confirmation?
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 26, 2008 at 9:43 PM
in all fairness to Obama, natives of Pakistan say it “Pok-i-ston”.
But man… Massatussets? That’s just stupid.
Mark V. on February 26, 2008 at 9:43 PM
JFK is way overrated, but at least he cut taxes and fought the commies. What the hell are we going to get from Obama?
Dudley Smith on February 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Mr.Burns shall I release the dogs,
Smithers,not yet,its all in the timing!
canopfor on February 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Tim “This is a reality”
No it isn’t. Dumba$$
fogw on February 26, 2008 at 9:44 PM
BS, she should answer the question
muyoso on February 26, 2008 at 9:45 PM
JFK would be closer to Republican today if he were alive.
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2008 at 9:45 PM
She doesnt want to answer the question because godforbid it happens, she doesnt want to take responsibility for the genocide that occurs there.
muyoso on February 26, 2008 at 9:45 PM
She’s fuming, and hogging the time that’s for sure. I would say she’s winning-barely. Obama appears…for the first time…he just appears tired to me. ?
SouthernGent on February 26, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Obama “you know Puckistoon is just like driving a bus in massachuchit you still need someone who knows how to drive.”
William Amos on February 26, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Haven’t we been in Germany for 60+ years, and Korea for 50+?
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:45 PM
I’m loving watching Shillary squirm!! If looks could kill all three of them would be dead.
what now on February 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Hillary drove a bus into a ditch?
I thought it was only Laura Bush who is suppsoedly a bad driver, if you read the lefty blorgs.
Do you know they way to San Jose, Barry?
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM
Is Obama a native of Pok-i-ston?
I thought he was Hawiian.
profitsbeard on February 26, 2008 at 9:47 PM
He got the committee chair, and then went on campaign and important hearings haven’t been held?
Do I understand that right?
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Do they have nuculer bombs over there in Pokeestohn or are they in Massatoosits?
Uh, so, you know, uh, so, you know…
Smart people, so very smart.
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:47 PM
If AQ forms bases in Iraq, he’d go in?
Wasn’t that what we’re doing now?
Do these people hear themselves?
yo on February 26, 2008 at 9:48 PM
How about a FISA question?
Over30 on February 26, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Punch him in the balls Hillary, get a chance to explain for once dammit!
benrand on February 26, 2008 at 9:48 PM
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