He bashes religion every chance he gets and was merciless in his attacks on Romney and Huckabee for their faith.

This is completely untrue. Allah posted about how Christians don’t consider Mitt a Christian but didn’t agree with the post and didn’t understand the conflict.

Christians bashed Mitt more than any atheists did.

As to Huck, Allah’s view has been:

He “find[s] him a populist hypocrite who uses faith like a club. There is nothing that [he] can see in his message or time as governor that matches up with the ‘Christian leader’ tag he gave himself. [He does] find his brand of intolerance offensive which is why [he] never supported him in the first place.”

Why do you have a problem with that?

We can agree to disagree about religion but he routinely mocks Christ and Christians.

I’ve felt the way you do at times, but I’ve come to the realization that Allah does respect those who believe in God. It doesn’t always seem like it, but clearly he wouldn’t be able to work with people like Bryan, Michelle and Mary Katherine Ham otherwise.

I’ve held my tongue with all the messiah references but his comment that brings in Jesus (with a capital J) is offensive to me.

highhopes on February 25, 2008 at 9:00 PM

And seriously, here, you’re acting like the Muslims who won’t let a kid name his own teddy bear.

Jesus is a name, so it’s going to be capitalized just like all proper nouns. God is sometimes lowercase, like: Obama is a god to liberals with white guilt.

Calling Obama Jesus isn’t bringing Jesus into the conversation. It’s just admitting that Obama and his followers act as though Obama is a magical creature sent from heaven to save us all from ourselves.

Is that not an accurate depiction of the Obama campaign? Actually calling him Jesus doesn’t change the metaphor. Either you get it and accept it that Obama is practically worshiped as a savior, or you don’t. But if you do, you shouldn’t object to reading the same exact metaphor written in a different way.

Since you’re out trolling for ways to be insulted, you better sharpen up your game a bit. And speaking of religious intolerance, how does a thin-skinned Evangelical tolerate Huckabee’s bigotry toward Mormons? Wasn’t this country founded in part on the principle of religious freedom? Why would you revere a bigot?

See, this works a few different ways, HH.

Jaibones on February 25, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Wow! If I find something offensive and part of an overall Christian-bashing theme, I’m “trolling” for ways to be insulted? That’s the same logic that rape victims were just “asking for it.” You clearly have lower standards than I do when it comes to this stuff.

As to Huckabee, I don’t know why you think I “revere” him. I find him a populist hypocrite who uses faith like a club. There is nothing that I can see in his message or time as governor that matches up with the “Christian leader” tag he gave himself. I do find his brand of intolerance offensive which is why I never supported him in the first place. I don’t agree with everything about Romney’s faith but I do agree with the values he brought to the campaign as a result of that faith.

Which gets us back to the bigots of HA who routinely slam Christians for no other reason than they don’t believe the secular humanist agenda of the left. There was a period of time when there were 14 active anti-Christian threads going simultaneously. It’s fine to be a Christ-hating idiot just so long as you are tolerant of those of us who hold different views.

highhopes on February 25, 2008 at 8:03 PM

I’m not offended by his snarcasm, knowing that his point isn’t intolerance or insult to Christians, but to the blasphemy of this human running a self-promoting political campaign based on promoting himself as a messianic savior.

Since you’re out trolling for ways to be insulted, you better sharpen up your game a bit. And speaking of religious intolerance, how does a thin-skinned Evangelical tolerate Huckabee’s bigotry toward Mormons? Wasn’t this country founded in part on the principle of religious freedom? Why would you revere a bigot?

See, this works a few different ways, HH.

Also, many Pastors suffer from what I like to call, a “C.E.O.” Mentality, they’re interested in building a business, than they are interested in Ministering the Gospel.

WayWard Fundamentalist Christian on February 25, 2008 at 9:10 PM

John 10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

John 10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

McCain is the only one who has proven and demonstrated his experience, leadership, morals, ethics, and Guts

Sorry if you don’t understand why that would be deemed intolerant.

I don’t. And maybe others don’t. Are you willing to explain? It seems pretty mysterious to me at this point why this comment set you off, and quite unlikely that it was intended to have the hostile meaning you’ve somehow inferred from it.

Second:

Welcome as a commenter (unless I’ve just missed your posts in the past)
Interesting website ya got there, for a ‘not much involved in church Christian’, it’s a bit inspiring.
I would hope going to church doesn’t make anyone cram religion down any throat.

Well, I would get into why I’ve kinda parted ways with “The Church” as it were. It’s a bit of a long story. It’s not to say that I’m against it. It’s great for some, but not for me. There’s a long story as to why I feel this way.

Believe it or not, however, there are Christians out there, that believe that you’re not shoving your beliefs down everyone’s throat, that you’re failing God. and that’s about wrong, IMHO. Jesus said, “I stand at the door and knock.” He didn’t say he would kick the door in and demand a surrender. Sadly, that’s what many Christians, Fundamentalist and Evangelical, believe that Christians are supposed to do. and it’s a sad mentality. Also, many Pastors suffer from what I like to call, a “C.E.O.” Mentality, they’re interested in building a business, than they are interested in Ministering the Gospel.

Anyhow, enough of this, I don’t want this to become a thread about me. I’m a guest.

-WFC

Jimi Hendrix – Are You Experienced?

Chakra Hammer on February 25, 2008 at 6:07 PM

Awesome album. I think one of the best ever.

This will make a great ad for the fall. The candidate’s own words can be their worst enemy, as we’ll see with McCain’s “100 years” and “economics” lines.

What’s the big deal? Don’t be so sensitive. There are a lot of things in life worth getting upset over; that’s not one of them. jgapinoy on February 25, 2008 at 8:24 PM

As an evangelical Christian, we are going have to disagree with AP’s motives and respect and tolerance of Christians. He bashes religion every chance he gets and was merciless in his attacks on Romney and Huckabee for their faith. We can agree to disagree about religion but he routinely mocks Christ and Christians. I would suggest you wake up a bit instead of ignoring this intolerant bashing of faith if you really are an evangelical Christian.

I’ve held my tongue with all the messiah references but his comment that brings in Jesus (with a capital J) is offensive to me. Sorry if you don’t understand why that would be deemed intolerant.

Sen. Clinton knows what’s she’s doing and what she’ll do.

Sen. McCain knows what he did, what he’s doing and what he’ll keep on doing. McCAIN!!

highhopes

Wow. You need to get a grip, bro. As an evangelical Christian, I understand that AP has no intention of blaspheming or being a jerk. He’s merely saying what a lot of us think, that Obama’s campaign has a religious atmoshere, with him being the “messiah” figure. What’s the big deal? Don’t be so sensitive. There are a lot of things in life worth getting upset over; that’s not one of them.

In his defense, this was back before he realized he was Jesus.

It is perfectly possible to make the same point without offending Christians with the blasphemy but, I guess that is what you get from the crowd that attacked the faith candidates and left us with a Stegasaurus as the GOP nominee. I realize that faith= evil person in your world but you sometimes really go over the bounds of tolerance. This is one such example of you being a Christian-bashing jerk.

As for earmarks, being able to search them online is nice. What would be even nicer is to do away with them entirely, since they’re a waste of taxpayer dollars. But since Obama secured over $90 million worth for his Illinois constituents last year, I’m guessing that Mr. “Change” isn’t really interested in doing that.

Soon people will be flocking to my soup line.

Dorvillian on February 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM

Including the wealth re-distributing taxman! Try not to make a profit…

It has been blatantly obvious that Obama has been actively running for President since two days after he was sworn in as a Senator.

Anyone who believed his statement must have been a weak minded fool who fell for his Sith Mind Tricks.

-WFC

Welcome as a commenter (unless I’ve just missed your posts in the past)
Interesting website ya got there, for a ‘not much involved in church Christian’, it’s a bit inspiring.
I would hope going to church doesn’t make anyone cram religion down any throat.

You can’t escape Barak that easily. Michelle “We’ll make you work” Obama will see to that.

Dusty on February 25, 2008 at 6:54 PM

I`ll be the Moby Dick to her Capt. Ahab. Pursue me to the ends of the Earth Mrs. O!

And besides, who says rebel/pirate isn`t a career? :)