Obamessiah and the Weathermen: More recent sightings
posted at 7:57 am on February 24, 2008 by see-dubya
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In his original post on the contacts between Weather Underground bombers Willliam Ayres and Bernadette Dohrn, Allah didn’t think much would be made of their 1995 visit:
It’s too old and the contact is too slight, I think, to do the Messiah any damage (although the GOP will certainly try)
At The New Republic’s blog, James Kirchick doesn’t think it ought to matter, again because it’s old news:
Again, I don’t believe that this loathsome couple’s history or their equally loathsome pride in it necessarily ought to reflect poorly on Obama. At best, he was totally naive about them. At worst, he knew who they were and what they stand for, but didn’t see anything wrong in using them to ascend up the Chicago political ladder. That would say something about Obama and his judgment. So far, Obama’s refusal to answer questions isn’t helping matters much.
Since then some Hot Air commenters pointed me toward this 2002 conference website, where Dohrn spoke and Ayres and Obama spoke on the same panel–”Intellectuals in Times of Crisis”.
There’s more: Rezkowatch links to this item to claim that Obama, Ayres and Dohrn all gave testimonials at a farewell dinner for Rashid Khalidi in 2005, although the exact date of the dinner isn’t clear from the article.
Now speaking on the same panel doesn’t mean Obama is sympathetic to their goals. It does suggest that there was no break with Ayres after the 1995 visits. Obama hasn’t distanced himself from these domestic terrorists, even after terrorism against the United States became a little…harder to ignore after September 11th, 2001. As did William Ayres himself, who had the laughably ill luck to spout off about how proud he was of his terrorism in an interview with the New York Times–an interview that ran in their September 11, 2001 edition.
Individually, these events aren’t much. Appearing on a panel with creepy people doesn’t mean you’re a creep. But taken together, these add up to a pattern of what is at best frightening tone-deafness toward terrorism, and a blithe ignorance of the evil and chaos these radicals represent. Kirchik said it’s not so bad if Obama just used Dohrn and Ayres to ascend the Chicago political ladder, but apparently Obie’s still running around with them long after he’s reached the top rung. Is the Obamessiah so profoundly unclued that he just doesn’t realize how bad it is to be buds with unrepentant anarcho-commie terrorists?
And, sadly, that’s the interpretation most favorable to the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. The other possibility is that he knew exactly who they are, what they stand for, and how it looks for him to be so comfortable with them–and he chose to continue hanging around with them anyway, long after their terror chic wore thin.
(Front page mugshot of Dohrn snagged from StopTheACLU)
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Like a shopper that has fallen in love with a car in a show room, the MSM and a large chunk of America has yet to take B.O. for a test drive.
And once they do they many will still find a reason to ignore the poor fuel economy, the rattle in the trunk, the wind noise at high speed, and the inability to turn right.
How much for the floor mats and rust-proofing?
darkpixel on February 24, 2008 at 8:04 AM
So when are we going to stop calling him naive?? He’s starting to downright creep me out. It’s going a bit beyond simply being inexperienced for the job.
4shoes on February 24, 2008 at 8:12 AM
Obama is a dangerous leftist. You know it. I know it. And the mainstream media knows it. You’ll talk about it. I’ll talk about it. The mainstream media will NEVER talk about it. This country is going to wake up about two years into Obama’s presidency, and say “Holy crap, we’ve got Hugo Chavez in the White House and he just put Hillary Clinton on the Supreme Court.” He’s going to make Jimmy Carter look like Ronald Reagan. Imagine how bad Obama’s presidency is gonna be, and then magnify that by about 100 to get somewhere near the truth of it.
Rational Thought on February 24, 2008 at 8:27 AM
Lisa Schiffren at “The Corner” on NRO, 2/19/08:
Just google “Obama red diaper baby”. It’s amazing what you’ll find.
HerrMorgenholz on February 24, 2008 at 8:41 AM
Obama is at best a Marxist with an influential wife who is hypersensitive about her race and the perceived injustices she believes it has thrust upon her. Putting those two in the White House conjures up a scenario that causes icy shivers. Furthermore, the cult that has grown around them will become increasingly radical as each day passes. If there was ever a time for unity, determination and political aggressiveness among conservatives, it is now.
rplat on February 24, 2008 at 8:57 AM
From one of Stop the ACLU’s links:
Dohrn’s husband, Bill Ayers confessed that the bomb that killed the aforementioned Weather Underground members in New York was an anti-personnel weapon filled with nails and screws that would have killed or injured many at the Fort Dix dance. Ayers has recently, publicly acknowledged his feeling that his group should, in his opinion, have set off even more bombs.
So, before the Fort Dix Six we had these comrades of Obama.
I think comrades is a good word to use to describe the relationship of Leftists – it’s a word they use themselves.
It’s all very ordinary among the Democrat intelligentsia to embrace people like this. After all, their lives are dedicated to they taking on the capitalist establishment pigs.
Because of it’s ordinariness, I doubt that Obama gave it a second thought (until recently) and I don’t doubt for a minute that he knew exactly who they were (and are).
Buy Danish on February 24, 2008 at 9:00 AM
As an aside, I think McCain — if he wants to fight dirty — could do one heck of an ad about what he was doing for the country from 1967-73 while Obama’s “friends” were trying to blow up innocent people.
Rational Thought on February 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM
Ayres was a goofy high school wrestler. The terrorist guy’s name is Ayers.
Jaibones on February 24, 2008 at 9:13 AM
NO WE CAN’T…
This is Patrice Lumumba and Sukarno wrapped up in the same personage….
I hope the contrast of McCain as a POW and this man’s communist leanings connections are not lost.
I hope that this years election result is McGovern re-incarnate.
lpierson on February 24, 2008 at 9:14 AM
Yes.
Do I win something?
Jaibones on February 24, 2008 at 9:16 AM
The New York Times is big on guilt by association why aren’t they on this story?
How stupid of me . . . these are their kind of people.
rplat on February 24, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Well said, BD.
My take is very simply that these are the kinds of people with which Obama moves most naturually. He is an unreconstructed 1960s radical liberal; he embraces the racial black separatist crap that his goofy minister spews; and he hangs around with people who put bombs in police cars and the pentagon to kill the kind of people we generally admire most.
And I find that most objectionable.
Jaibones on February 24, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Obama and his wife are black separatists, it’s pretty obvious. It’s why Barry became Barak.
That is inline with the radical chic BS that those two terrorists got involved in in the 60’s.
It’s all part of the same piece of cloth.
I didn’t see this kind of stuff move into the debate over the next President, I was happy with it being confined to the Congress and the Universities.
Oh well, I guess the fight with the 60’s radicals hasn’t quite ended yet.
They’re still fighting away at the injustices of the white power structure.
benrand on February 24, 2008 at 9:38 AM
Interesting! Interesting!
jeanie on February 24, 2008 at 9:38 AM
I thought it was Bernardine Dohrn not Bernadette, or is that another alias?
lowandslow on February 24, 2008 at 9:42 AM
I was first eligible (old enough) to vote in a presidential election in 1972. Been a junkie ever since. This year it is feeling a little like 1972. Barry O is a leftist that really hasn’t had to answer many questions as of yet. I really don’t believe McCain is going to have to work very hard to roll him over.
JonRoss on February 24, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Why am I not surprised that domestic terrorist Ayers is a college professor today?
jgapinoy on February 24, 2008 at 10:02 AM
To get more of a perspective on the mindset of the circles in which Obama runs, it’s instructive to read about Rhodes Scholar and Uber-Leftist activist Chesa Boudin, the son of Weathermen terrorists Gilbert and Boudin. Chesa was 14 months old when they were incarcerated, and was subsequently raised by their Weatherman comrades, Ayers and Dohrn.
This 2002 piece is a must read about the then and now of radical chic:
A chip off the old ‘Weatherbureau’ block
Buy Danish on February 24, 2008 at 10:03 AM
The shtic that Obama is an innocent waif is getting old and boring. He is a college educated adult, yet people give him a pass as if he were a 13 year old. He needs to man up for his actions, not hide behind false innosence that wouldn’t pass for a 18 year old.
Rode Werk on February 24, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Barry did not get as far as he did in Chicago politics without leaving some skeletons in the closet.
TroubledMonkey on February 24, 2008 at 10:31 AM
http://tinyurl.com/2os764
From The Patriot Post: From the (far) Left: Obama’s communist mentor
While Senator Barack Obama has been touting himself as the candidate for change, one thing he has conveniently not been advertising is his close relationship while growing up with Frank Marshall Davis, a known communist writer and member of the Communist Party USA. In his book, Dreams from My Father, Obama tells of “a poet named Frank” who cautioned the young future senator before he left for college against forgetting his “people” and against “believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that [stuff].” This is the same Frank who, according to Professor Gerald Horne, a contributing editor of Political Affairs, the Communist Party journal, “befriended” the Obama family after moving to Hawaii from Kansas.
Obama followed the ideologies of his mentor, openly attending socialist conferences and brushing elbows with the Democratic Socialists of America. While he vehemently denies being a “hard-core academic Marxist,” his socialist-inspired philosophies often belie that claim.
In January, the communist newspaper People’s Weekly World published a letter from a supporter celebrating Obama’s Iowa caucuses victory as “more than a progressive move; it was a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle.” The letter goes on to say, “Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary ‘mole,’ not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through.”
There is an inherent contradiction in seeking to become the next leader of the free world while clinging to Marxist philosophy. Common sense dictates that one who would bear the standard of liberty should embrace its philosophies. Unfortunately, common sense has become rather uncommon in today’s political arena. Had it not, perhaps more scrutiny would be directed toward a certain senator from Illinois who grasps Marxist ideologies with one hand and seeks to lead the United States of America with the other.
rockdalian on February 24, 2008 at 10:35 AM
The angle this needs to follow is digging up more of Obama’s connections to the Chicago radical scene, yesterday and today. It’s alive and well; surely there are more there that have known him and worked with him. Don’t forget his first employment and a legal grad there was in socialist agitation in the poor neighborhoods.
Is Obama a leftist terrorist? Obviously not. But I believe he agrees with their goals, but not their methods? Why should he? Having one of their own as president is far more damaging to the “system” then any bomb could ever be.
Hannibal Smith on February 24, 2008 at 10:35 AM
From a 2-16-02 piece, Roots of a Rhodes Scholar Radical.
A minor detail perhaps, but I wonder how often he wore that pin – specifically, if he wore it as a fellow Woods Trust board member and panelist with Obama in 2002.
More to the mindset, who does this remind you of?
But we’ll be fine!
Another good read from the Guardian Observer:
The Americans who declared war on their country
Buy Danish on February 24, 2008 at 10:38 AM
At what age did Barry change his name to Barak?
As one who travels in such circles, I can tell you that these radical 60s remnants ideas are mainstream. A lot of the content of education courses, in particular, are about injustice, social justice, and white racism.
The other thing I can tell you is that teaching such ideology is not harmless. When I see the influence such ideas have on future teachers, I worry about what Barak Hussein’s assumption will have on the attitudes of the populace.
http://www.culturism.us
culturism on February 24, 2008 at 11:14 AM
You forgot about the conference that Michelle Obama organized/promoted that starred Barry and Ayers, and was all about how the juvie justice system is racist. It was in 1997.
This story is very important, and definitely should show people that Obama is one of these folks through and through. If you google the names of the folks who appeared on the panel with him in 2002, you will find one guy who will be on a SCOTUS shortlist (Douglass Cassel) and a couple of hard core caucasian-haters.
funky chicken on February 24, 2008 at 11:14 AM
An Obama SCOTUS shortlist: Harold Koh, Douglass Cassel, Patricia J. Williams.
google them and weep that Limbaugh and Coulter are doing everything they can to make sure that conservatives sit home so we can have bright lights like those three confirmed as SCOTUS justices.
funky chicken on February 24, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Obama matured politically in a liberal/left environment. Liberal academia and then liberal Chicago politics. In such a worldview, people like Dorn and Ayers are viewed, perhaps not favorably, but not critically. They were “liberals in a hurry”, as they say, driven to extremes by an unjust war and misguided nation.
This is accepted by most of the elites – including the press – in this country. To raise questions would be to engage in McCarthyite tactics.
So, it won’t be examined.
Flip this around and ponder: A Republican candidate who matured in conservative/rightwing politics and then associated with extremists who advocated violence.
Would the press raise questions about that? You know damned well they would. As they should.
But he who says (A) should say (B).
Yeah, right, there’s no liberal bias.
SteveMG on February 24, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Somehow, I think all this ink being spilt on this (cyber or otherwise), won’t matter in the end. Why? As far as the US goes, we have elected and re-elected a draft-dodger who repeatedly lied to the public, and said amazingly asinine things, too numerous and well-known to reitreate here. In so far as the Democrat Party, they’ve nominated that same draft-dodger, had a fabulist, anti-military nominee in 2004, and have harped on identity-politics in the name of “unity” to their own detriment. This is also a party that loves
terrorists“freedom fighters”, both as world-classlevel leaders, and as drinking buddies. As far as all these so-called negatives, that’s only true for us on this side of the aisle.Bottom-line: this election will come down to whether or not you (the individual voter) see the US as a force for evil and vote for a Democrat, or a force for good on balance and vote for the RINO.
dmh0667 on February 24, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Here’s a more recent picture of Ms. Dohrn.
Yeah, but for Ayers (and Chesa Boudin) and Dohrn, the revolution is not just a distant part of their past, and is undeniably something they still celebrate and promote.
It’s going to be awfully difficult for Obama to claim he didn’t know who they were (and are).
Buy Danish on February 24, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Google Saul Alinsky: Barak Obama. Good article in The American Thinker re his early years.
a capella on February 24, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Two degrees of separation from Kathy Boudin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
http://www.billayers.org/index.php
No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen
Published: September 11, 2001
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn
http://www.law.northwestern.edu/faculty/clinic/dohrn/dohrn.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Boudin
slp on February 24, 2008 at 11:51 AM
I agree, but I don;t think that’s really a very dirty tactic at all.
Big S on February 24, 2008 at 12:02 PM
It does mean that he is not offended by the goals of these people, however. My conscious would prevent me from sitting on a panel or hobnobbing with a murderer, a nazi, or a domestic terrorist.
There have been a lot of books written over the years about Dohn, Ayers, and their fellow travelers. Unfortunately, most get ripped off from the library and are out of print. Most of their history cannot be found on the internet. I’ll never forget how Dohrn hee-hawed over the brutal murder of Leno Lobianco and the desecration of his body by his murderers.
Blake on February 24, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Yet, the same liberals thought it relevant that they dredge up W’s TANG service, his previous bouts with alchoholism, that auto incident by Laura Bush, etc, and so on.
Obamamessiah is making his candidacy about character. What does it say that he cavorts with people like that?
William Teach on February 24, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Buy Danish….I hope you have contact with somebody at National Review or The Weekly Standard.
If this stuff gets into a long investigative piece in either of those two publications it will make it to the MSM. Maybe as a dismissive “too old” article, but if people see it they can decide the “too old” for themselves.
funky chicken on February 24, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Here’s a more recent photo of Bernadine Dhorn still celebrating the revolution in 2007:
It’s going to be awfully difficult for Barack to claim he didn’t know who they were (and are).
Buy Danish on February 24, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Nope, don’t know a soul there or anywhere else for that matter. Google is my friend.:-)
Buy Danish on February 24, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Of course, he knew who they were. Everyone with a brain and/or from Chicago knew who these people were. It’s not like they tried to hide it. In fact, they are quite proud of it. It’s amazing that they turned their terrorism (and yes, people were afraid of them)into some faux civil/human rights nonsense. And it should shock no one that they were almost all the children of wealthy and privileged leftards.
Blake on February 24, 2008 at 12:29 PM
We mustn’t forget Obama’s “good” side.
http://www.tucc.org/about.htm
a capella on February 24, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Interesting how the swine who walk on two legs love the perqs and honors of the “establishment” they claim to be fighting. They love their tenure, their sinecures in academia and NGOs, their Rhodes and Fullbright scholarships.
Also, whenever one of the 60s radicals surface, makes a plea bargain and does their time they have a cushy job waiting for them when they get out of jail in some tax supported part of the leftosphere, usually a college.
rokemronnie on February 24, 2008 at 12:36 PM
There are tons of YouTube videos of Bill Ayers the unrepentant Socialista.
Here’s one of Ayers and Chesa acting as a translator to what I gather is a Bolivian (no habla espagnol), sitting under a photo of Che who dons that pin on his cool beret.
Another video by MDS has Ayers sporting a baseball shirt which says “Cuba”.
Buy Danish on February 24, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Does anyone know whether Obama made reference to his contacts with Dohrn and Ayers in either of his books? Has there been any indication he embraces the contact or downplays it as just a youthful mistake on his way up the ladder?
a capella on February 24, 2008 at 12:50 PM
The ghost of Lee Atwater is salivating at the prospect of the Hortonesque commercial (and the subsequent mark) this subject matter will make.
thirtypundit on February 24, 2008 at 1:15 PM
If the “Negatives” can get past the “gatekeepers” in the MSM, Obama’s pretty synonymous with toast.
If they don’t, the rest of us are.
Merovign on February 24, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Good Lord, Cindy’s gotten big! I thought she’d been on that hunger strike and all…
bikermailman on February 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM
I’m actually surprised Her Thighness hasn’t tried to hit Barry O with this one yet. Of course she’d face the FALN hypocrisy charge, but when has shame ever affected a Clinton.
Iblis on February 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Didn’t one of Barry’s employees have some nice attractive flags with big Che likenesses?
Guess that really didn’t happen.
benrand on February 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM
This is the type of crap they write about these terrorists: When “Cathy Wilkerson” is invited to classes to talk about the left radical movements of the 1960s and 1970s period, there are always those in the audience who seem to be looking for some kind of psychological flaw in the members of these movements.
That’s right. God forbid that anyone think that someone making a bomb in order to murder soldiers and their dates have a psychological flaw. This creep is now a teacher in the NYC public schools. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Wilkerson
Blake on February 24, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Juan McCain…what say you?
SouthernGent on February 24, 2008 at 3:03 PM
All politicians are blind to evil in any form; they will all gladly pose and smile for a photo op with just about anyone, if they know they are an unsavory character or not.
The Clintons gladly take money from Chi-Coms and Obama has no problem gettin’ cozy with shady arab money men or domestic terrorists.
As the press reactions, imagine if McCain had been on a panel with Tim McVeigh at some point, would the media roll over and play dead?
Neo on February 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Come on, people. Pay attention. These aren’t isolated incidents or extreme examples; the radical, communist, terrorist left was at war with the U.S. in the 1960s and 70s, and they became the administrators that they hated.
Our higher education system is dominated by them, and even the most seemingly over-the-top critics from the right are completely vindicated in their views. You simply cannot exaggerate the level to which these haters have infiltrated our education systems.
It should also have been no surprise that Ayers’s area of study and teaching is elementary education, where his ideas can be brainwashed into children earlier and where the resistance to people like him is nonexistent, since grade-school teachers are probably the least politically aware people in the system.
Jaibones on February 24, 2008 at 3:31 PM
They can’t make a living outside of sucking on the huge floppy teats of the education system.
Think they’ll take the time to become an engineer? that’s much too hard. Better to flit about teaching something, like nude architecture.
benrand on February 24, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Yes.
But uh, how exactly does anarcho-communism work?
Anarchy is the lack of any government at all.
Communism is the crushing control of government over everything.
They don’t seem to fit very well, aside from the violence and misery their citizens suffer under.
BKennedy on February 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Anarcho-communism is the only way to get rid of those who believe communsism is wrong; you kill those who can think (I was going to write intellectuals but it has been amply shown that today’s intellectuals are lazy turds with no clue about the real world; they live in an idealized version where communism works without taking into account human nature to do what they believe is best for themselves and their families and not what the government deems is best, which usually isn’t) Anyway, communists make use of the disaffected youth, promising them a better world and a way to discharge all of their anger and rage, and fool that they are, they follow blindly.
It is imperative to get ahold of the children, and what better way then to yank them out of bed before the sun rises, locking them up in prison-like buildings, with windows barely large enough to let the sun shine through, but big enough to make the outside, chaotic world seem scary and unsafe, drill them with meaningly, useful lies, deny them the ability to listen to their own body (hungry? wait until lunch. have to pee? sorry, bathroom break is before gym) send them home with an abundance of busywork, cutting even further into family time, and one wonders how america is ready to embrace Socialism, not long after deciding to liberate countries living under tyrants. it makes me sick. and angry.
Besides, If anyone is going to indoctrinate my children it is going to be me, dang it!
Blight on February 24, 2008 at 5:38 PM
BIRDS OF A FEATHER!!!
And these vultures/crows/foul fowl/ whatever they be, scare the crap outta me.
shooter on February 24, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Better yet read Let Them Call Me Rebel and Rules for Radicals. If you can’t afford to buy them, remember that the public library is your friend. As for the first one, I hope that you’re a speed reader; it’s thick.
Get to know your adversary.
baldilocks on February 24, 2008 at 5:53 PM
I read that aloud to my mom. Nothing in it about Christ except for the name.
baldilocks on February 24, 2008 at 5:57 PM
Yeah an Atwater commercial is perfect. It symbolizes who’s side Obama is on. He doesn’t love America enough to reject it’s enemies when it comes packaged as a hip and trendy terrorist.
Open: (scary music) Pictures of Ayers and Dorn at their bookings. Narrator tells of their crimes, Ayer’s regret of not setting enough bombs ON 9/11, pictures of planes hitting WTC. People crying. “Barack HUSSEIN Obama continued to meet with terrorists after 9/11.”
Cut to: McCain in a backdrop of flags. “I’ll fight terrorists anywhere, anytime. Not pal around with them. I’m John McCain (video of McCain as POW coming home) and I approve this message.”
whiskey_199 on February 24, 2008 at 6:02 PM
This is an image Barry will most likely not be featuring during his campaign. Enjoy :)
Buy Danish on February 24, 2008 at 7:04 PM
This makes you look at all the High Education loans the Government is always handing out, or increasing, only goes towards building up and the hiring of more of these loons.
So, your tax dollars are funding the Weather Undergroud.
WoosterOh on February 24, 2008 at 7:34 PM
From the site:
Do they not realize that Islam invaded Christian Africa, captured the natives (with the help of neighboring tribes), and sold them to slave traders?
davidk on February 24, 2008 at 10:08 PM
HerrMorgenholz on February 24, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Seriously? The guy’s book, listed in the conference information is “Fugitive Days.”
Wouldn’t you, assuming you were somewhat intellectually curious, want to know what THAT was about?
DKK
LifeTrek on February 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM
As an aside, it never ceases to amaze me how, so called, “intellectuals,” have to hold conferences on things like fostering coalitions between, theorists and activists (all intellectuals of course!)!
How does that work in Ayres mind? The theorist plans the bombing and the activist actually does the bombing? Where do downs syndrome suffers fit into that equation?
Sometimes it seems that if conservatives held the same type of conference using the same, “code words,” the left would call it a militia meeting. But being intellectuals, they know better, like the proper time to bomb a NCO dance!
The level of arrogance is really astounding and ironically goes unnoticed by these very intellectuals.
DKK
LifeTrek on February 25, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Super absorbant!
Shy Guy on February 25, 2008 at 4:21 AM
Obama-nation!
sleepy-beans on February 25, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Wow, If you’re all really as scared as you seem, go join a militia….I’m not kidding. I tried, but they’re few and far between in my neck of the woods.
Full disclosure…I’m “skeptical” of our government regardless of who holds the reigns.
beefytee on February 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Here’s Jonah Goldberg, author of Liberal Fascism, on this topic:
Buy Danish on February 26, 2008 at 4:53 PM
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