Open thread: The “Last chance, loser” debate
posted at 7:24 pm on February 21, 2008 by Allahpundit
8 p.m. on CNN. All that stands between us and a guy capable of raising more than $2 million a day is this horrible, feeble loser. I asked you before but I’ll ask you again: Is there anything left in that bottomless bag o’ Clintonian tricks? She’s not actually going to go out there and drone about “experience” for the 20th debate in a row, is she? Dear lord, Hillary, at least give us a meltdown to remember you by.
If she complies, there’ll be video here later. In the meantime, take heart from this. It’s the storied Buffenbarger bootleg — the longest sustained evisceration of the Messiah yet on record. Pretty dull, but with a little coaching from BJ our gal could package it just right for the TV audience. Watch the first minute, then skip ahead to 8:00 or so and stick with it for another 90 seconds. Eye of the tiger, baby.
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The Republican Party is done. It’s time to form a new one.
indythinker on February 21, 2008 at 7:26 PM
you mean, March the 4th be with you. not may the force
zane on February 21, 2008 at 7:28 PM
She MUST go to the right of him tonight to attract any moderates and independents who will vote for her now that McCain has it wrapped up (and with conservatives rallying). It’ll be an extremely tight rope for her to do that, but she has no other choice. On “the war”, she can say she voted for the war and that we are winning the war, and she can thank the troops for saving 3 of her fellow senators…if she dares. Otherwise, she has no chance…especially if CNN asks her about her husband’s legacy in Kosovo. Honestly, I can’t bear to watch it so I’ll just read the cliff notes tomorrow or later tonight.
SouthernGent on February 21, 2008 at 7:30 PM
B.B.Q Texas style – ain’t nuttin like it anywhere.
Kini on February 21, 2008 at 7:31 PM
People talk about how Tough a campaigner Obama is. But I mean how hard is it to beat Hillary, Edwards and Dennis Kucinich ?
Its not like the Dems have the A team out there.
William Amos on February 21, 2008 at 7:34 PM
It wouldn’t be hard to head off the emptiness, if the Republicans actually had a candidate, someone who inspired more than a need to go to the bathroom. The coattails will be huge … won’t they?
The notion that hate Hillary would be the winning Republican ticket is melting faster than she is, it now seems like a misguided whimsical wish and built solely on hope. Hope is viscous partner, near always lets you down.
That’s what happens when the drive by media chooses the opposing candidate.
tarpon on February 21, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Buh-bye Hil…you’re so worthless you couldn’t even win when your enemies were actually pulling for ya. I like to think of this as a trial run of what your presidency would have been like: FAIL! Of course, his Obama-ness is no better (and much worse in many regards) for the country, but at least he could win something.
AUINSC on February 21, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Pantsuits are great for concealed carry. Just sayin’…
Bugler on February 21, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I’m watching “Keen Eddie”
Snaggletooth and the Messiah can jump in the fire for all I care.
LimeyGeek on February 21, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Here’s my scenario for what will transpire in the debate tonight:
The moderator asks Sen Clinton a good question, to which Clinton does her cackle laugh. She gives her cackle but then abruptly stops in a straight face. Sen Clinton proceeds to scan to the left and right of the stage, then up and down. She leans forward on her podium towards the moderator and says “I’ll be back.” After saying this, she walks off stage.
There is a long moment of silence as everybody is wondering what the heck just happened. Then there is the sound of a car starting, its engine rev’ing, then the squealing of tires. In the next moment, an old Ford POS barrels out from where Sen Clinton had left. At a blinding speed, the Ford smashes over both podiums, including Sen Obama, killing him instantly, before smashing to a stop by hitting some of the stage’s supports. Everyone is completely shocked at the event, unable to move from witnessing such a horrible murder. At the same time, the millions watching freeze whatever they’re doing and stare at the TV, waiting in anticipation at what will transpire next. Everyone stares in wide-eyed amazement as the driver door opens and Sen Hillary Clinton steps out.
With utmost precision, Sen Clinton finishes getting out of the car and walks around to the front of the stage. The only sound you can hear in the room is Hillary walking over some broken wood and other debris on the floor of the stage. She stares directly into the camera, glowing red eyes burn bright as she speaks in a monotonous tone:
“I am Skynet!”
—–
And now you know why we haven’t had a war with machines yet.
Weebork on February 21, 2008 at 7:45 PM
speaking of losers and debates, Ron Paul is refusing to debate Chris Peden who is running against him in that district and may beat him. the height of irony
jp on February 21, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Weebork…that’s actually a great metaphor for what she will do to the democrat party.
SouthernGent on February 21, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Hmmm… so if Hillary is Skynet, and we know how bad Skynet can be, what does it mean when Skynet is going through menopause?
Yikes!
Weebork on February 21, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Texas can do no greater service to the republic than booting a certain Texas Congressman who shall remain brainless I mean nameless
William Amos on February 21, 2008 at 7:47 PM
*Second to last chance, loser.
Vizzini on February 21, 2008 at 7:49 PM
ROFL :)
LimeyGeek on February 21, 2008 at 7:50 PM
I understand some of the ridicule that various folks have unloaded on RP, but I have to say that I think he has served an extremely useful function throughout this primary cycle.
Regardless of the critiques of his, shall-we-say, ‘eccentric’ positions, he has nonetheless drawn effective attention to the most essential aspects of a liberty-oriented American life.
I applaud him wholeheartedly for his efforts.
LimeyGeek on February 21, 2008 at 7:55 PM
If Hillary is Skynet does that make Obama the Oricle in Matrix ?
William Amos on February 21, 2008 at 7:55 PM
I agree. His stance on taxes alone deserves applause jsut as much as his stance on the war deserves ridicule.
SouthernGent on February 21, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Amos,
Oh my, you DO see the light!
Congrads!
Weebork on February 21, 2008 at 8:00 PM
This is me procrastinating from doing Physics homework.
Weebork on February 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM
I predict that Obama will sneeze and Hillary will applaud and the crowd will be whipped into an ObaMessiah frenzy and he will crowned King of America on the spot while Hillary bows down and repeats, I’m not worthy…I’m not worthy…I’m not worthy. Bill will be sitting with Michelle tellin’ her where she can keep her head….I’m just sayin….
ihasurnominashun on February 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Quite so, well said :)
LimeyGeek on February 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Don’t bother, it’s all a scam – apparently God planted everything to keep us guessing ;)
LimeyGeek on February 21, 2008 at 8:02 PM
It must be what He’s up to, as that is what I’ve been doing for a while now –guessing!
Weebork on February 21, 2008 at 8:09 PM
The republicans have F-Troop though.
lorien1973 on February 21, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Its soo creepy the way Hillary stares at the Big O as he speaks.
VolMagic on February 21, 2008 at 8:12 PM
BTW… Obama is the mega-deuce. You can’t beat a 100 ft robot. Say hi to your next president! :)
VolMagic on February 21, 2008 at 8:13 PM
That’s funny – I thought the same thing about the O staring at Hillary.
Buy Danish on February 21, 2008 at 8:16 PM
That’s the truth
TOPV on February 21, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Did the stay “calm and cool” Hillary advisers win out or something?
Hey, American Idol is STILL on the other channel, ya know.
I’m here to see a show.
Getting Bored.
Dorvillian on February 21, 2008 at 8:20 PM
I’m watching Survivor and Celeb Apprentice. I’m counting on BP and AP to grab the minute of actual substance that will be in this debate. I’m not watching 89 minutes of “hope and change” for the minute of actual issues they’ll talk about.
malan89 on February 21, 2008 at 8:21 PM
I guess that works great…until there is no tax revenue to pay for the poorly managed war…
TOPV on February 21, 2008 at 8:25 PM
The Messiah is a Gorebot
mred on February 21, 2008 at 8:25 PM
If they were both behind a curtain and had the same voice, would anyone know the difference?
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Two millionaires talking about taxing the “rich”.
mred on February 21, 2008 at 8:27 PM
Nice crop on the home page thumbnail. She does look like she’s drowning.
dedalus on February 21, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Help me out here ……
Snoozefest or Lovefest?
fogw on February 21, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Is there any daylight between these candidates?
Vizzini on February 21, 2008 at 8:28 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:28 PM
4.9% unemployment, who exactly are you going to hire Hilldawg?
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Hill is slightly to the right. If she was truly the smartest woman in the world she would have run to the right and told MoveOn.org to get lost a long time ago. Now she’s stuck being mostly like the O but without an ounce of his charm or grace (albeit a fake, phony, fraud kind of charm).
Buy Danish on February 21, 2008 at 8:30 PM
I`m not watching this one. I can only stand to hear who`s more of a socialist and a foreign policy wuss, for so long. Atleast I`m going to get to see what America was like in the 70`s with Carter 2.0
ThePrez on February 21, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Not a lovefest like last time. Kind of scary actually; Obama seems very naive – but frankly in a way that plays to his theme, ie not the status quo.
And I’m SO tired of Clinton and her “George Bush’s war on/in…Iraq/education/science/etc.” I won’t miss that when it’s finally gone.
Spirit of 1776 on February 21, 2008 at 8:31 PM
I’m glad Hussein drew a line in the sand between rich and poor at $75000. Too bad I was thinking working my way up to 300k, 400k or more. Because now I know 2 things; 1) I’m going to be taxed to hell making more than 75k and 2) I now have no incentive to make above that amount.
Why not just say 70% or 80% of the population automatically makes or gets $75000 and everyone else earns that $75000.01 or more and gives anything above that back to the government?
BowHuntingTexas on February 21, 2008 at 8:32 PM
There’s one of the focus groups phrases:
“Comprehensive Immigration Reform.”
Bing!
Weebork on February 21, 2008 at 8:32 PM
still think we’ll look back on this and realize Hill made the avatar amateur look like the seasoned pro and that it was her weakness, not his strength, that won him the nomination.
At least that’s what I HOPE we’ll think when we look back on 2008.
BillLalor on February 21, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Why do these Donkeys live here in such a pathetic excuse for a country, where there is nothing but suffering, sickness and despair.
Please move out, if you don’t like it here.
I’ll pay for your airfare, one way.
fogw on February 21, 2008 at 8:33 PM
Good night. Obama says Bush isn’t pro-Mexico enough.
Spirit of 1776 on February 21, 2008 at 8:36 PM
the left needs a boogeyman, or satan, to “save us” from.
I get the feeling they’ll still be demonizing bush for years to come.
jp on February 21, 2008 at 8:37 PM
my employees will suffer
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:37 PM
So Hilary’s new strategy is to point out she agrees with Obama on every topic.
What kind of idiots are on her campaign staff.
Anyone remember this word …… Strategery!
fogw on February 21, 2008 at 8:39 PM
smart fencing…lol, by the way, does she have a bruise on her left cheek? Her left, our right looking at her…?
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:39 PM
A boring Bush bashing session so far…
bojack on February 21, 2008 at 8:40 PM
Didn’t we already make our stance felt on immigration reform?
atxcowgirl on February 21, 2008 at 8:41 PM
DREAM ACT!!!!!! Michelle just had a convulsion
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Lets just hand our country over to Mexico
tshell on February 21, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Without misery, real or perceived, the left doesn’t have a raison d’être.
Also, my friend, how can you stand to watch them? I just skimmed this thread and got ‘sick’.
Entelechy on February 21, 2008 at 8:43 PM
As a matter of fact… we should all be forced to learn spanish
tshell on February 21, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Jesus…(and I am not referring to Hussein). Did that guy just begin his question entirely in Spanish? Say Goodnight, America.
Big Daddy Cool on February 21, 2008 at 8:44 PM
We’re doomed.
Pandering, platitudinous creeps, both of them.
What happened to the “dreams” of American citizens?
Hillary opposes making English the Nation’s official language.
Good-bye, America.
MrScribbler on February 21, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Just switched to American Idol.
Good night Barry. Good night Hillary. Good night
MoonLoons.Buy Danish on February 21, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I’ve always been fascinated by train wrecks.
fogw on February 21, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Globalism FTW!
tshell on February 21, 2008 at 8:45 PM
Do none of these people believe in any kind of personal responsibility?
muyoso on February 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Shes gotta to beat Obama not Bush…
Common but not official language whats the difference?
And the messiah is gonna teach us all a second language?
tottoritodd on February 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Im off to “Big Trouble in Little China”
tshell on February 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Umm, isn’t every language (other than english) fading? The economist had an article some time ago saying that english and economics is becoming the same. You cannot succeed without speaking english.
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:47 PM
We might as well start refering to each other now as “my fellow mexican.”
bojack on February 21, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Oh, so people who speak english are to blame. Well, “The Dirty Dozen is on TCM. Lee Marvin ’08!!!! Oh, is he still alive?
Big Daddy Cool on February 21, 2008 at 8:48 PM
I’m going to start my Elvin language classes tonight so I can be bilingual too.
And I’ll demand that my bank statements, voting ballots, tax forms – everything – be in Elvin.
And I’ll want a press 3 for Elvin on my ATMs and do my taxes in Elvin.
Basically, I’m giving up English and I’m speaking and writing in Elvin from now on. And, by golly, you’re just going to have to accommodate me !
BowHuntingTexas on February 21, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Great movie…network?
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Did I hear Obama right that he’s going to fix the Mexican economy as well?
This guy really is the Messiah.
Vincenzo on February 21, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Bilingual? Um, that would require those speakers of other languages to learn English.
Over30 on February 21, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Does that matter? At some point spanish will be forced on us.
bojack on February 21, 2008 at 8:49 PM
They’ll soon be coming to take Hillary away, ha-haaa.
Coming to take her away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa.
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time and she’ll be happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats
And they’ll soon be coming to take her away, ha-haaa!!!
To the happy home, with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they’ll soon be coming to take her away, ha-haa!!!
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time…
- Napoleon XIV
MB4 on February 21, 2008 at 8:50 PM
lol
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Sunny… I Tivo’d it. Sorry.
tshell on February 21, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Waiting for Pancho and King to ask both candidates how silly they feel now that things are turning around in Iraq.
fogw on February 21, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Hill: “Action speaks louder than words” ….
Let me write that one down. Nice.
fogw on February 21, 2008 at 8:54 PM
I currently live in Japan and teach English to buisness and university students. The people here know that to speak English is necessary to get ahead in the global economy. What don’t the dems understand?
tottoritodd on February 21, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Maybe Hil’s about ready to take out the knives. But so far, she’s gained no ground. So far she looks the loser. Barry O’s not sounding that swift, but Hil’s sounding even less so.
The big MO runs still for the Big O.
petefrt on February 21, 2008 at 8:56 PM
So are you saying that we might just as well throw these bumper stickers away now?
Vote for McCain or Hillary will get elected and kill you!
If that is not a good enough reason, then screw you!
Yes, I think you are.
MB4 on February 21, 2008 at 8:56 PM
No. Just look at what AZ did. Can’t employ illegals: Medicaid expenses going down, crime going down, and most important…unemployment down in AZ. The spanish language, the language of low wages is leaving. That is not racist, that is a fact(except in Spain). Stick to the cause and real change happens.
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Obama: “Dramatic rise in anti-Hispanic hate crime”???
Obama, then please explain how the FBI hate crime statistics do not bear that out…from 2005 to 2006, that number rose only 4%.
I dare say that’s not dramatic, especially given the anger and ire caused after the 2006 May Day protests with all those Mexican flags flown in our faces!!!
Miss_Anthrope on February 21, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Yea, and they are coming to Texas.
atxcowgirl on February 21, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Who cares if St Obama plagiarized? Campbell Brown does.
I don’t.
All his speeches are empty BS anyway.
BTW — I admired Barbara Jordan. She would vomit on both of these fools.
MrScribbler on February 21, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Earnings should not be taxed. Consumption should be taxed.
I make more money than ever in my life, as you get older this tends to happen.
I used to make 7bucks an hr when minimum wage was 5.35. I was happy with 7bucks an hr because it was higher than min wage and it was all disposable income for me (though I did save for the things I wanted).
Now, apparently, 75,000 is rich. I make over 80,000 a year. My takehome is
James on February 21, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Listening to these two tonight is making me wonder if they’ve made a deal already: Whoever loses gets to be VP.
Maybe Algore brokered the deal.
petefrt on February 21, 2008 at 9:00 PM
My takehome is
James on February 21, 2008 at 9:00 PM
State issue. Federalism. If you want it you got it. Then at least citizens can decide where to live. We are working on the same law in SC. Tough to pass with our ag business. But we are trying.
sunny on February 21, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Oooh, its getting slightly snarky!
Wineaholic on February 21, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Xerox!
Bing!
Weebork on February 21, 2008 at 9:01 PM
My takehome is less than 50,000 a year. After sales taxes, gas taxes, property taxes, etc I am knocked down to 40,000 a year. 40,000 a year to live on, pay my bills with, and save for retirement with.
A couple of things I would like to see happen. Allow me to OPT out of social security and take the 12% money and put it to my personal retirement plan. Rebate a percentage of my ss contributions and let me put it into a 401k.
Don’t TAX investment income. It makes no sense to take money that I have PAID TAXES ON ALREADY and tax it again because I earn money with it. I mean… WTF!!?
anyways… Dhimmicrats will remind us again why Carter was such a mistake and the Reaganite we are rewarded with will hopefully swing the pendulum back fast.
The only solace I can find… I guess it is fitting that the baby boomers will bear the brunt of the pain!!
James on February 21, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Rut-roh. Dirt flying from the Hill alert…
NightmareOnKStreet on February 21, 2008 at 9:01 PM
They’re not interested in getting ahead. They just want a hand-out.
pedestrian on February 21, 2008 at 9:02 PM
LOL whoops. Where’s all the “Obama’s better than McCain” folks?
funky chicken on February 21, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Clinton: I am tired of insurance companies deciding who lives and dies in america.
Of course she does; she wants the government to decide who dies.
Over30 on February 21, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Wow, Hillary finally called Obama out a bit. Good job, Hil.
Vincenzo on February 21, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Fearmongering. “The world will breathe a sign of relief when Bush is gone.”
Screw you, Hillary. Clinton got applause, The US lost its laws.
BKennedy on February 21, 2008 at 9:05 PM
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