The end of Hillary
posted at 10:16 am on February 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
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She’s got a few weapons left — brass knuckles at tomorrow’s debate, 527s taking off and strafing the Messiah in Texas and Ohio — but that won’t roll back the advance. It’s our dumb luck that we finally get the Clintons in an election where we can beat them … and they flame out in the primary against a superior candidate. Even in defeat, they end up making our lives harder.
Anyone want to offer any Hail-Mary optimism this morning or should we pause at last to exult in her failure, electoral consequences be damned? The two aren’t mutually exclusive:
The schisms that would arise if Clinton won — particularly with respect to black voters and the anti-war Left — would likely be a worse scenario for the Democrats. Nominating Obama, however, may have a depressing effect on Democratic women (and leaners), empower radical elements of the Democratic coalition and leave the Clintons as loose cannons in a general election. There has been much discussion of the first scenario, but almost none of the second, which currently seems the more likely one.
Maybe, but what’s the grievance among women if Obama wins? He won a bigger share of their vote yesterday than she did. If Hillary beats him with a play for superdelegates or by seating the Florida and Michigan slates, it’ll smell to his supporters like what it is: a desperate bid to thwart the guy who won more states and more delegates. If he blows her out in Texas and Ohio, though, what’s the case for her supporters having sour grapes? Karl mentions this morning a point he brought up earlier in the campaign, about a race on the left between Clinton and NotClinton, but the reason Obama won, I think, is by breaking out of that mold so spectacularly via his cult of personality that the race essentially became one between Obama and NotObama. As I’ve said before, “anybody but” candidates tend to fare poorly because they have little to commend them beyond what they’re not; the left couldn’t even leverage its enormous Bush-hate to elect Kerry on that ground in 2004. If Obama had run as the NotClinton, he’d be finished already. As it is, he raised a little more than $1 million a day last month and has celebrity nitwits singing songs about him. Geraghty’s consoling himself today with the fact that Obama the man can never live up to Obama the god, but man, that’s going to be one cold comfort on November 4.
Exit quotation: “Clinton needs to win 58% of all remaining pledged delegates simply to get the pledged delegate lead back. Forget 2025. And if you assume Obama wins Vermont, Wyoming, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota, then the magic percentage number in the states Clinton wins rises to 65%.” And exit question: Hail Mary?
Update: Meant to add: Even if she has to wait eight years, until she’s 68, she’s running again, isn’t she?
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I’m gonna miss the ol’ cow.
Shy Guy on February 20, 2008 at 10:18 AM
even in this, her darkest hour, don’t underestimate the furry mrs. clinton can unleash. i predict that the real mud is fixin to fly.
DrW on February 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Considering the tailwinds, it was/is by no means assured the R nominee could beat the D nominee in November. Obama, if he doesn’t win is a recurring political presence for the Presidency, I think. As such an inexperienced Obama who avoids getting pinned down (”Present”), might just be preferable to another Clinton term and then also in the future a term or two for the avatar of hope.
Spirit of 1776 on February 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM
I want to see everybody currently running defeated.
Let’s just let the Butler in the White House run the country until we can get a competent person in the Oval Office.
EJDolbow on February 20, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Michelle Obama is a mocha clone.
Be afraid.
(Not proud.)
Be very afraid.
profitsbeard on February 20, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Dibs on when she’ll bail?
I say before the convention (yeah, I know. That’s an easy one).
Specifically, I think it’ll be March 7th (Friday trash throw).
scottm on February 20, 2008 at 10:23 AM
If you think this empty-suited Obama is not beatable, you must be smoking something. He will get destroyed in the general election.
liberty on February 20, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Toast. Burnt. No butter.
Limerick on February 20, 2008 at 10:24 AM
I think she’ll be in until the convention. There’s too much at stake and she’s been planning for this for YEARS.
She knows that there are 6 Supreme Court justices 68+ years old and the next president will probably have several nominations. She wants that almost as bad as Socialized Health Care.
JP_Smith on February 20, 2008 at 10:26 AM
In other words, we won’t have to worry about Barry’O as much because the Clintons, with their vindictive nature, will do him from within their party? Si se puede?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 20, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Is it too early to roll out the video?
JammieWearingFool on February 20, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Fo’ shizzle, my exalted nizzle. The thirst for power is never quenched.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 20, 2008 at 10:28 AM
I tellz all use Black people’s in this hear Church, I gotz me forta thray yearzo’ experience!
Hail Mary Pass: This is Hillary Clinton. She is vicious, vindictive, outraged, and backed into a corner. Mark my words, she WILL tear the party down in a lust for her own power. She will not be denied!
BKennedy on February 20, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Initiate Operation Sympathy Vote… hope it is just Bill’s kneecaps they go after.
christophercube on February 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM
* You can’t fool all the people all the time !!! * Somebody should have said that … !!!
aniladesai on February 20, 2008 at 10:31 AM
She want’s it bad…so yes, she’ll run again. I still think she would have had a much better time of it if she ran four years ago. Hillary just might have beaten Dubya. But the Left’s love affair with the Clinton’s seems more distant as time goes by.
But then, look at McCain…Pushed out early in 2000. And at the start of the current primary season, it looked as if all hope was lost. Not anymore.
In any event, we all know that Hillary ran for Senate, from NY no less, purely as a stepping-stone to a White House run. She ain’t giving that up.
JetBoy on February 20, 2008 at 10:32 AM
It’s close, but I’m not ready to celebrate yet.
I’ve seen “Fatal Attraction.” Hillary is just waiting to come screaming out of that tub.
Slublog on February 20, 2008 at 10:32 AM
At least for her sake, she’s not melting.
benrand on February 20, 2008 at 10:32 AM
I still think Obama’s the weaker candidate. Everyone knows Hillary’s negatives so she’s either going to do as well or better than her current polling. Obama hasn’t really been given much scrutiny, and he doesn’t have any substance to stand up to it. His numbers can only go down from here.
frankj on February 20, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Over Bill’s dead body.
fogw on February 20, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Women don’t age as well as we men :)
JiangxiDad on February 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM
You must have missed this from above. McCain is an “anybody but” candidate.
a capella on February 20, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Between the Patriots blowing a chance to go 19-0 and the very real possibility of a total HRC implosion, I am at a serious risk of schaedenfreude overdose.
thirteen28 on February 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM
I’m not going to give it a definitive “Yeah, he’ll lose”, but we do have a chance at beating Obama.
I’ve spent some time over the last two days reading some blogs on the Left, and some are starting to have concerns about him. TalkLeft fears he’s McGovern, Krugaman fears (and is starting to see) a backlash against Obamamania, and Kevin Drum writes:
amerpundit on February 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Ding Ding Ding……BINGO !!!!!!!!
saiga on February 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Not to worry. Take a dose of McCain.
JiangxiDad on February 20, 2008 at 10:36 AM
She won’t bail. She will fight fang and claw until the Obama bus runs her over six or seven times.
dogsoldier on February 20, 2008 at 10:37 AM
I kinda hope she pulls a tie out of the bag. I for one want to see the Dems implode as Hillary gets the nod via corrupt superdelegates, and Obama forms a ticket with Bloomberg and splits the Dem vote so we McLame can just stroll into office.
Then we can focus on getting a REAL conservative in office for 2012, while not having to worry about fighting a commie in the WH.
wearyman on February 20, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Nothing left to see here. Game over, man.
Lance Murdock on February 20, 2008 at 10:37 AM
err, so THAT McLame can stroll in. Please excuse my typo.
wearyman on February 20, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Question: What if Hillary endorses….McCain?! Would’nt that be a hoot? McCain already got to where he is mainly because of Independants & moderate dims.
Weirder question: What if McCain is elected with the help of Hillary supporters? : )
kcd on February 20, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Suggestion for Osambo –
doubletriple your security people !!OBX Pete on February 20, 2008 at 10:39 AM
With any luck, she’ll slash his tires in the process.
amerpundit on February 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I like the way you think ; )
kcd on February 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Even weirder, Mav tells the right to piss off, and chooses Hil for his VP
JiangxiDad on February 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I just don’t see America making this Obama guy president. As the November campaign drags on, he will be called to task on his points of view and values. I may turn out to be wrong, but this guy is as hollow as a leaking basketball. And, he don’t seem quite right when it comes to details.
saiga on February 20, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Lets not get stupid! ; )
kcd on February 20, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Or give The Maverick™ any ideas.
Slublog on February 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM
JiangxiDad on February 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM
On second thought, would we be any worse off? ie.McCain/Graham, McCain/Huckabee, McCain/Clinton (hrc)
kcd on February 20, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Obama still has time to drop out due to a mysterious family illness.
- The Cat
MirCat on February 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Yep. When she ran for the Senate she was actually running for POTUS.
Bob's Kid on February 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Not really too early, just not entirely accurate…the wicked witch is undead, waiting to claw her way out of her fetid grave in four more years.
flipflop on February 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM
I listened to Obama last night, and he spent hundreds of billions of dollars in a speach of less than a one hour.
He seems to think money grows on trees. McCain, the knothead, should be able to stomp him with reality. Nobody wants an expanding nanny state.
saiga on February 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Do you mean like a pain in his back (ie. hatchet, Bowie knife, bullet)
kcd on February 20, 2008 at 10:46 AM
She ain’t dead yet.
It is time for conservatives in Texas to crush her in the primary.
Valiant on February 20, 2008 at 10:47 AM
She won’t win Texas, even with us crossovers wishing upon a star. You Texans out there, you know this State, a ‘crowd’ here is a poor turnout anywhere else. The news crews here take extra care, at political rallies, parades, festivals, to make sure the camera angle makes it LOOK crowded. Barak’s rallies here ARE crowded. No special effects necessary. Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, the people are going out of their way to get a peek. Bobby Kennedy would have smashed Nixon in 68 with his crowd appeal. This election year is just like that one. A tired public, a message of ‘change’, and an adoring media. Hillary is history.
Limerick on February 20, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Her final flailing (which could somehow miraculously save her, but not likely) will be magnificent to watch. Somewhere there is a body bag with Barry’s name on it…
D2Boston on February 20, 2008 at 10:48 AM
She won’t bail this time, not so long as there is an inkling of a chance. And she’ll fight and claw, try to create that chance, for as long as she can. Heck, Huckabee has literally zero chance, but he’s not dropping!
But in 4, or even 8 years, yes, she might try running, but how does one get any credibility when they are ‘inevitable’ yet get slaughtered by a newbie with no record in a primary? I think that part of it will be too much to overcome for her.
JamesLee on February 20, 2008 at 10:51 AM
It’s our dumb luck that we finally get the Clintons in an election where we can beat them…. and we put up a complete dud and liberal syncophant like John McCain instead of sticking to true conservative values. Thank you GOP liberals for deciding that 2008 was the year you were going to “get back” at the social conservatives who managed to elect GWB for the last two terms. Thank you for deciding that the party owed it to McCain to nominiate him since he was robbed in 2000. Hope you are very proud of yourself that you’re more interested in punishing the social conservatives and “Jesus freaks” than doing what is good for the party. I despise you for your parochialism and short-sightedness where a inter-party vendetta is more important than the nation’s well being.
highhopes on February 20, 2008 at 10:54 AM
It’s our dumb luck that we finally get the Clintons in an election where we can beat them … and they flame out in the primary against a superior candidate. Even in defeat, they end up making our lives harder.
Anyone want to offer any Hail-Mary optimism this morning
Michelle Obama’s hoity toity attitude could prove her husband’s undoing. There’s your optimism.
RWLA on February 20, 2008 at 10:55 AM
It ain’t over ’til it’s over.
It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings.
It ain’t over, and she ain’t singin’.
Sloan Morganstern on February 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Let’s be careful though. We want to make sure that people understand that we think HILLARY will be the one to take out a contract on Obama, not that WE wish him harm.
While I vehemently disagree with B. Hussein Obama’s politics, I personally wish him health, and long life.
May B. Hussein Obama live to be 100 years old.
May he live long enough to see the error of his ways and become conservative.
However, I also wish him (and the Democraps) to be defeated in the General Election come fall.
wearyman on February 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Perhaps. But he hasn’t been destroyed yet; the gullible twits on the left love him – think that’s going to change by election day?
Midas on February 20, 2008 at 10:56 AM
And space is available at Fort Marcy Park. It’s fun to see the Clinton machine in trouble but be very wary about writing their obituaries. The Clintons are street fighters not pugilists. They won’t let a little thing like primary results get between them and their goal. My prediction is that the superdelegates are going to be strong-armed to death by Camp Clinton.
highhopes on February 20, 2008 at 10:59 AM
If and when she drops out (or is defeated at the convention), do you think we’ll
get tohave to see her actually cry for real?Hollowpoint on February 20, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Agan, this comes down to how the left see it. We on the right are rightly (pardon the pun) put off by her comments – but will they really factor into the thinking of those who are mindlessly following her vapid husband already?
Not likely. To many of them, she’s a hero for having said it – she articulated what many of them feel in their hearts already; that this country isn’t a source of pride for them, and rarely if ever has been. Seriously, to the blame-America-first crowd,what she said was not offensive, it was ‘truth’ – their truth. And they’ll lover her – and him – even more for it.
Midas on February 20, 2008 at 10:59 AM
*sigh*
If they nominate Obama, we’re screwed.
Sir Andrew on February 20, 2008 at 11:00 AM
I will be a contrarian here. I think this will be the last national Clinton campaign. They will figure out that she has a Senate seat for life and Bill enjoys his international jet-setting lifestyle. I don’t think she could raise ten bucks for another presidential run. She will settle in and try to become the next Ted Kennedy in the Senate.
rockmom on February 20, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Well said. Fortunately for us (and McCain) MOST of America doesn’t feel that way. In fact, MOST of America finds comments like hers vile and disgusting. Which is why even if Obama wins the Dem nod, he won’t win the general. He’s WAY too far left.
wearyman on February 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Amen!
Limerick on February 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM
I hope you are right, but fear you are not. The donks have always craved a nanny state, and now they have the best vehicle in Obama they have had in ages. Couple that with McCain’s inability to sharply contrast himself. Global warming gasoline tax, immigration, national health care(market driven won’t matter to the unwashed), Soros backed support groups,..it is gonna be tough. His strong points are pork and the WOT, but the public is going to want more than that.
I’m hoping more for an Obama meltdown or Democrat party fragmentation between Hillary and Obama, with some of their
base sitting it out.
a capella on February 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Why the GOP has a good chance at beating Obama:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/02/why_the_gop_has_a_good_shot_at.html
liberty on February 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM
A beheaded snake can still strike. Until it stops moving, it’s not dead.
As Ann Coulter said, “I’ll believe she’s done when I see the body.”
fourstringfuror on February 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM
I predict ya’ll will look silly predicting her demise when she gets the nomination.
She will lose the primaries but win the nomination. Humprey never won one primary in ‘68. It’s the Democratic Party. The Obama people can posture all day about more delegates and votes and will of the people. It won’t matter.
She will win in the end. Primaries are windowdressing for the masses in the Democratic Party.
Starlink on February 20, 2008 at 11:03 AM
She’s going to lose, that’s inevitable. I’m curious what role the Clinton machinery will play in an Obama administration.
I think the average Democrat will vote for Obama without hesitation…there will be no hangover by the time the general election rolls around. With a Democrat in the White House however, there will be less incentive for the remnants of the DLC to play nice with the KoS branch of the Democrat party.
Asher on February 20, 2008 at 11:05 AM
shes not done yet.
And i firmly believe obama is going to trip up soon, we need republicans to attack him, and hard.
zane on February 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Is the sky blue?
petefrt on February 20, 2008 at 11:07 AM
The Clinton ego is both the driving force and achilles heel of her campaign. Hillary will fight tooth and nail until the end.
It will be a spectacular implosion/meltdown.
southsideironworks on February 20, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Please, please, please let this thing drag on.
Please, I offer my empty, Rove loving, charcoal soul, for the chance to see what happens if she “steals” the nomination via the superduperpooperscooper delegates.
To watch the race pimps (jackson, sharpton, et al) go beserk, and witness Michelle Osama’s head explode on national tv, to see Chris Matthews sob and scream “why?!” like Nancy Kerrigan, to see millions of inner city yoots loot playstations and G-Unit clothes in order to protest this miscarriage of the democrat process.
…please, please, please with Halle Berry on top.
Alden Pyle on February 20, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Personally, I don’t want her any where NEAR having a chance to get into the Whitehouse and with the Clinton’s anything could happen (and you know what I’m talking about!)
Ann on February 20, 2008 at 11:08 AM
Thanks for the Protein Wisdom link, as always.
Karl on February 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Ever seeking the “up side” of the situation, at least Her Thighness will NOT be able to rant and squeal about the “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy” that deprived her of her due!
We just won’t have to get around to doin’ that.
The Dems putting ‘The Clenis and Clunt Show’ on hiatus is a good thing. She couldn’t even convince 51% of HER PARTY to support her, what is the hope of getting 51% of the country?
Bye Shrillary! Good riddance Bill!
heldmyw on February 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM
The anti-Mary isn’t doing so well. Her Disney, psycho-face is cracking. Who is under ‘the mask’?
Watching the Clintoons self-destruct is so much fun.
Christine on February 20, 2008 at 11:12 AM
When I see her up on the podium giving her concession speech and announcing she is pulling out of the race, I’ll believe it. Till then, there is plenty of time for one more public grand mal hissy fit by Bubba Billy.
pilamaye on February 20, 2008 at 11:14 AM
She aint over yet. What if Obama makes her VP. She could be another Al Gore (God forbid)and we would have to listen to her for years to come.
But Obama is all “hot air” pardon the pun. I dislike both McCain and Obama. November will be to me like The Reverencd Farrakhan against Geraldo Rivera. The more they will smack each other, the better I will like it.
saiga on February 20, 2008 at 11:20 AM
How do you guys know she won’t come down with terminal cancer first????
Shirotayama on February 20, 2008 at 11:20 AM
EX-Hillar-ating, is how I’d describe my feeling over it.
Shirotayama on February 20, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Republicans and/or Conservative “pundits” like that idiot Sean Hannity spent almost 4 years attacking Hillary on his radio show in the hope of stopping her from being president, now that idiot and people like him, the “experts, the pundits,” are crying and can’t do anything to stop Hussein.
They rushed to Romney for help, but it was too late: they got McCain.
Now Hannity, Limbaugh, etc., proved to be the experts morons, like a prostitute looking for someone to lean on.
They lost their credibility.
I used to listen to talk radio. I never took them seriously knowing that they are out of touch with the American people.
They are so full of themselves, thinking they know everything, like those idiots “pundits” on the TV news channels.
For me, talk radio is over. I don’t listen to “commentaries” on the news channels. The only opinion I depend on is MINE.
Read raw news and make up your own mind.
Indy Conservative on February 20, 2008 at 11:27 AM
Dead bang on Limerick..I live in Houston and the Toyota Center was PACKED!
http://lonestartimes.com/2008/02/20/a-night-with-obama/#comments
I think Obama will get the nomination and he will win.
This is why I’m hunkering down and paying off as much of my debt as I can before January 09. Between him and the aproaching recession, be prepared for a bumpy ride.
Pulchritudinous Patriot on February 20, 2008 at 11:27 AM
I’m not sure that’s even going to help at this point. It’s beginning to dawn on me that the Dems could actually blow it in this election. While I’m no fan at all of McCain, seeing the Dems wake up on the morning of Nov. 5th having totally choked in an election cycle when the table was as perfectly set for them as it ever will be would only continue to add more fuel to the fire that is The Year of Schadenfreude.
Patriots blow a chance at 19-0. The end of the Clintons. Dems blow it even when everything appeared to be breaking their way against a weak Republican candidate.
If that happens … wow.
thirteen28 on February 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Remember the old Wiley Cayote/Roadrunner cartoons? I always felt sorry for Wiley; it wasn’t fair that hard work, ingenuity and persistence never paid off for him. That stupid bird would just breeze by. So I’m feeling a little sorry for Hillary today.
So it’s Stupid Bird vs McRino. What’s worse, it’s a no-brainer which one had better lose.
dhimwit on February 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Sort of like Ted Kennedy with smaller boobs?
thirteen28 on February 20, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Except that I thought he’d get destroyed in the primary, and instead, he has destroyed the competition.
I thought the race card would be too much to overcome in the primaries and the general election. Now? I’m not so sure.
asc85 on February 20, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Holy shiitake mushrooms.
That Hail Mary article by Derbyshire is disturbing. It’s like Night of the Living Dead meets Hellraiser. It should probably be in the headlines btw.
Anybody think he’s right?
Unless one drops out before the convention, the scenario certainly looks plausible.
Kai on February 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Karl’s speculation is fascinating. My bet is BHO will win the vote, and HRC will steal the nomination. My hope is it will splinter the Dem’s black support almost irreparably.
HRC won’t hesitate to take down her party, if she sees possible advantage for her in it. The only constraint on her destructive potential is her interest in running again in 2012.
petefrt on February 20, 2008 at 11:47 AM
No, I don’t. The Democratic party rift that has already been exposed by this year’s primary season will expand to astronomical proportions if Gore were to get in now, either as an independent or even trying to squeeze his way into the Dem party. It will divide their vote and allow McCain to win even though most of his party is decidedly unenthusiastic about his nomination.
thirteen28 on February 20, 2008 at 11:47 AM
I think the point of the article would be that Gore is a dark horse that arrives on the scene shortly before the convention.
He doesn’t have to wage war over the summer and the dems/populace will be looking at two sick and wounded fighters and may even be tired with them.
Kai on February 20, 2008 at 11:50 AM
Dude. She won’t run “again.” She’ll NEVER stop running. It’s too important and she wouldn’t want to see us fall back. Word.
Sugar Land on February 20, 2008 at 11:51 AM
I wonder how shocked we will all be when Barrack Hussein Obama is sworn in…….on the koran?
kcd on February 20, 2008 at 12:16 PM
They’ll divorce (quietly).
She’ll be an aging Senator and “King-maker” in the mold of TeddyK. She’ll grow angrier and more liberal as time passes. The term “Clinton wing” of the Democratic Party will refer to her… not him.
Bill, finally free of her, will devolve into a globetrotting unrepentent sex-addict, and will leave an endless stream of female “victims” throughout the world, all of whom will be labeled by the MSM as “liars”.
Both will grow wealthier from shady investments, book deals, speaking fees, and foreign money. The media will sit silently by, saying nothing, desperate to “move on” for the good of the country.
The End… RIP.
Gartrip on February 20, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Disagree.
I respect everybody else’s thoughts on this matter but my prediction, should Barry-O win the Dem nomination and not offer her the Veep (which I doubt she’d accept even if her offered it…or hasn’t offered it to Silky already), is that she understands that if she wasn’t a viable enough candidate for POTUS at 60, she definitely wouldn’t be viable at 68 years of age.
I think, if she doesn’t win this, she’s DONE. At which point, within one year, my prediction is:
-She resigns her Senate seat, AND
-She finally divorces Bubba
Shirotayama on February 20, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Indeed I do !!
OBX Pete on February 20, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Rush just mentioned a possibility that hadn’t occurred to me: If it’s her last hope, she may strong-arm herself into the VP slot on Obama’s ticket.
This is the nightmare scenario.
petefrt on February 20, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Yes. Let’s have one small moment of giddiness in seeing the Clinton’s finally fall victim to their own tactics.
Besides, I still say Obama is not that strong policy-wise. Tonights debate will tell us alot about that.
BacaDog on February 20, 2008 at 12:34 PM
If that happens, I wouldn’t bet 2 cents on Obama living two years. JFK and LBJ all over again.
Ironic, since she’s compared herself to LBJ more than once!
Will history repeat itself?
Shirotayama on February 20, 2008 at 12:41 PM
True, that. But they don’t forgive men who point it out :)
Rush, and a few others, are wrong. Obama will never ask her, and, if asked, she’d be stupid to accept. She’s many ugly things, but not stupid. Her power in the Senate is greater than that of VP. Obama doesn’t need her and can’t afford to be overshadowed by the Clintons. Which reminds of
She will run again, but in 4 years. Thus, one more reason not to take the VP slot.
Strictly on topic, though, this is not over yet. These are the Clintons.
Texans, vote for her now, and against her in Nov.
Entelechy on February 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM
No way Barry takes her as VP. Not with Bill in tow waiting to upstage him. Nobody in their right mind would do that. And come on, with the wake of dead bodies around the Clintons, would you want Hillary as your #2?
Besides, Hillary has already been VP for 8 years. Just ask Al Gore. Why would she give up a lifetime Senate seat to do that again?
rockmom on February 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Yeah, but the Fat Lady and the rest of her union, ISSFL (International Sisterhood Of Singing Fat Ladies) Local #622 are tuning up even as we speak.
pilamaye on February 20, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Dear Allahpundit Sir;
There is the matter of a certain $50…
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