Exit polls: Wisconsin; Update: Fox calls it for Obama; Update: Obama breaks out?
posted at 6:03 pm on February 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
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We’re almost three hours away, I believe, from the polls closing but some data’s already trickling in. The early signs — change over experience, 27% turnout among independents (63-34 for Obama, per Fox), no meaningful margin on the C-in-C question — bode ill. Megyn Kelly’s on now and says Hillary won women … by only two points, and unions … by only one point.
Standby for updates.
Update: Mutnemom?
Update: All right, back by popular demand, here’s the Truther video that I originally posted. The boss’s complicity is alluded to near the end.
Update: Geraghty’s hearing 60-40(!) after two waves of exit poll data. How can that be if Hillary holds a 51-49 lead among women, who typically vote in greater numbers than men in Democratic primaries? Did men break 75-25 for Barry O?
Update: Coming soon: “It’s about picking a president who relies not just on words – but on work, hard work, to get America back to work. Someone who’s not just in the speeches business – but will get America back in the solutions business.”
Update: A “huge win.” Awful.
The party officials said that if the trends reflect in the interviews with hundreds of Badger State voters, the news out of the primary will be: Obama encroached deeply into three of Clinton’s core groups of voters — women, those with no college degree and those with lower incomes — while giving up none of his own. However, Clinton looked to be winning senior citizens, the officials said.
Update: Hillary supporters will be satisfied if Obama’s the nominee. Obama supporters if Hillary’s the nominee? Not so much.
Update: Results should be coming in any minute now. As usual, CNN and Politico are updating.
Update: 9 p.m. Megyn Kelly says in fact it was Obama who edged Hillary by two points among women. Good lord.
Update: No surprise — McCain wins easily. Minor surprise — The Democratic race is too close to call for the moment, which means it wasn’t 60/40.
McCain wins even among talk radio listeners.
Update: Exit polls are out. 55-43, according to MSNBC. Obama wins men by 26 points and white men by 21 points, and white voters overall 53-46.
Update: Here we go. At 9:19, Fox calls it for the Messiah.
Update: Jay Cost, ever reluctant to bestow the big “M” on any candidate, seems ready to lay it on the Messiah:
These numbers tell the tale succinctly. Clinton suffered significant loses across many of her core constituencies. White women, Democrats, union workers, downscale voters, and white Catholics all drifted to Obama last night – some so much that Obama actually won them.
Is this a momentum effect? The word “momentum” has been tossed around way too much this cycle, which is funny because prior to tonight there has really been little evidence of momentum at all! So, what of last night? Are these bona fide expansions in his voting coalition, or was Wisconsin following the same pattern that the previous states had? It is hard to say…
My sense is that there is some kind of momentum effect going on here. That is, Obama’s victories – most recently last week in the Potomac Primary – contributed to last night’s victory, though he would have done very well if there had been no momentum. This is the first Democratic contest where I think a case like this can be made. Until last night the typical ebb-and-flow of each candidate’s demographic strengths could account for the actual results.
If this is momentum, Clinton should be very nervous.
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What on earth was that…?
John on February 19, 2008 at 6:09 PM
I thought this was a joke until I saw the links to the other videos posted by this guy on You Tube.
I’ll have to spend a lot of time this week contemplating how the human species has managed to flourish even while producing scores of people like the guy who made this video.
Nessuno on February 19, 2008 at 6:11 PM
My goodness….
All that conspiracy going around, and I’ll STILL never be the Worst Person in the World!
JamesLee on February 19, 2008 at 6:11 PM
I replaced the conspiracy video. Got a better one.
Allahpundit on February 19, 2008 at 6:12 PM
I find it sad and disturbing that I have nothing to do with the end of the world :(
lorien1973 on February 19, 2008 at 6:12 PM
No my comment makes no sense.
Well; that’s normal actually.
lorien1973 on February 19, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Which may be good, considering the AP says women outnumbered men in the Dem primary.
amerpundit on February 19, 2008 at 6:14 PM
The 10,000,000 Dollar bill shows a greatly devalued US Currency on the back!
Nethicus on February 19, 2008 at 6:14 PM
What I didn’t get, what was they showed the blank back of the bill and said “new york is gone, where did it go” – why was it new york? why not hoboken? or miami? or podunk illinois? why did he assume it was new york?
lorien1973 on February 19, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Was that a pic of Rudy at 1:53-55?
Best we can hope for is Hillary running Hussein close. Wisconsin latte liberals dominate the electorate. Bad news all round – we need this Dem contest to even up a bit in order to prolong their agony.
Pax americana on February 19, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Phew! I finish watching that incoherent troofer crap and it was gone. Thought it was a flashback.
trubble on February 19, 2008 at 6:15 PM
That proves it. We’ll click on anything.
Valiant on February 19, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Anyone have a link to the Troofer stuff?
amerpundit on February 19, 2008 at 6:17 PM
AP should put that troofer one back up or at least in tandem with Darth. His scream of noooo is about the end of the world – of which I’m not a part :(
lorien1973 on February 19, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Fox:
amerpundit on February 19, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Wisconsin is old people heaven. I have a feeling this one might be tight.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 19, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Yah, I was going to say I thought M. Kelly had Obama winning women by 2%.
mikeyboss on February 19, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Liberals we can’t stand video=troofer video?
I probably enjoyed it more anyway.
TexasDan on February 19, 2008 at 6:43 PM
According to Fox, Obama won the female vote.
amerpundit on February 19, 2008 at 6:44 PM
The video basically shows dollar bills of various denominations folded to show something resembling the twin towers being built, standing, on fire and finally collapsing, with the images interspersed with shots of various right wing /fox news figures. Fortunately for these freaks any couple of long parallel rectangles and a couple of shots of Kool-Aid will suffice. Either that or the 9/11 conspiracy involves a dastardly origami expert who works designing money at the Treasury Department. Google It!!
trubble on February 19, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Congratulations, Allah. ;-)
aero on February 19, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Just put a marker down on burqa futures.
Chuck Schick on February 19, 2008 at 6:47 PM
pile on
Drtuddle on February 19, 2008 at 6:48 PM
About this time, Shillary may be thinking that maybe, just maybe, not wearing that Cheesehead hat while slogging down a couple of brats with kraut in Sheboyghan might have been a mistake.
pilamaye on February 19, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Maybe 10% (that can still get around…)
Wisconsin Total Population: 5,461,710
Citizens 65 Years or Older: 709,060
Please Remember: Hillary supporters WANT her to lose. It makes her more likable.
All Part of Her Master Plan.
Dorvillian on February 19, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Those CinC and income numbers are bad for HRC. Obama has to have taken more of her core voters.
Complaints of sexism behind the Cheddar Curtain soon to follow.
Karl on February 19, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Something close to that wouldn’t surprise me. Not at all.
petefrt on February 19, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Master plan to do what? To keep on losing?
terryannonline on February 19, 2008 at 6:57 PM
What master plan? This is her main shot at the presidency, and it’s extremely unlikely she’ll survive losses in Wisconsin and Texas.
amerpundit on February 19, 2008 at 6:59 PM
She don’t have to win the most delegates here you know. We are talking about the Clintons.
She will be the nominee.
conservnut on February 19, 2008 at 7:01 PM
I’m not counting the Clinton machine out, but superdelegates are abandoning her for Obama – not the other way around. What do they have to gain, or fear less, by supporting her?
amerpundit on February 19, 2008 at 7:03 PM
I think Fox has a master plan to keep Megyn Kelly on as much as possible. And it’s working.
NTTAWWT.
JammieWearingFool on February 19, 2008 at 7:06 PM
It is basically every city in the state voting against Milwaukee and Madison…….
.
Unfortuantely, the rest of the state can’t muster enough votes to turn the liberal tide in those cities.
I’ll be voting for HRC just to skew the Obama factor. lol.
Now, I need to go and vomit.
subbottomfeeder on February 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Not having Harold Ickes leafing through their FBI files?
a capella on February 19, 2008 at 7:12 PM
I’m thinking Obama may be near his peak, what with his plagiarism and wifey issues starting to tarnish his divinity. The Texas and Ohio races will be close, but they may go for Clinton after all.
So I’m rooting for an Obama blow-out in Wisconsin, so that when Clintons “manipulate” the nomination from him, the outrage will be deafening.
petefrt on February 19, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Democrats votin for someone with empty rhetoric and class warfare background ?
Color me SHOCKED !
William Amos on February 19, 2008 at 7:17 PM
IIRC, males make up a larger percentage of Democratic Party members in Wisconsin than compared to other states.
ninjapirate on February 19, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Exactly! I’m just saying, I wouldn’t be suprised if she walks into the convention way down on “supposed” delagates and still gets the nom. The good news is that would cause a $hitstorm that I don’t think the Democrats could recover from by the general election.
Hell, this might even be entertaining to watch.
conservnut on February 19, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Bill’s pedicure has been interrupted by his hysterical laughter.
Limerick on February 19, 2008 at 7:20 PM
I’m with Allah in supporting Hillary out of crass political strategy.
But the silver lining of her collapse in the primary has been the sudden and stunning revelation among lefties that the Clintons are terrible people.
It’s almost as if they were in a coma during the 90s.
Nessuno on February 19, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Wisconsin Total Population: 5,461,710
Dorvillian on February 19, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Can you tell me how many are under eighteen and not eligible? Keep up those detailed stats!
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 19, 2008 at 7:23 PM
The polls close in Wisconsin at 9pm eastern.
Are all the networks gonna call this one for Barry Hussein at 9:01?
Always Right on February 19, 2008 at 7:24 PM
I will say something for this election. Watching the Clintons get their comeupance has been extremely entertaining.
With even hardcore liberals calling the Clintons names suddenly the “vast right wing conspiracy” just got more vast.
William Amos on February 19, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Bout the only bright spot I can find is the hope that knocking her out on March 4 will mean the Kossacks jump up out of the weeds. The Dems have been working hard to keep their heads down lately. Hillary suddenly gone might make em jump up and scream victory.
Limerick on February 19, 2008 at 7:28 PM
I will say something for this election. Watching the
Yep, I have been doing my duty and pulling for the Hilda-beast but I have to admit, watching them implode and the rest of the libs call them on all the dirty tricks has been a hoot.
There goes that legacy Bill!
conservnut on February 19, 2008 at 7:29 PM
CHELSEA IN 2024!
Limerick on February 19, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Heh, I wonder if the press will get to ask her questions then?
conservnut on February 19, 2008 at 7:32 PM
No :)
ThePrez on February 19, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Chelsea`s inevitible!
ThePrez on February 19, 2008 at 7:35 PM
It should make Thursday’s debate quite interesting. Desperation can lead to risk taking…
rw on February 19, 2008 at 7:39 PM
That’s not my opinion,and believe it or not, it’s not a joke either. Her supporters really are saying it.
Check out:
Update: Mutnemom?
Dorvillian on February 19, 2008 at 7:42 PM
I voted for Hildog.
I feel dirty.
And it looks like it meant nothing, oh well.
Keljeck on February 19, 2008 at 7:47 PM
1,338,690
Dorvillian on February 19, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Aw <expletive deleted>.
steveegg on February 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM
But is it really part of Hillary’s “master plan”? Her supporters may say something, but that doesn’t mean it’s “All Part of Her Master Plan”.
amerpundit on February 19, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Chelsea would have been the more electable candidate in 2008.
petefrt on February 19, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Huckabee’s running as a spoiler and a populist. I hate spoilers and populists. Especially I hate populists. And I hate populists extra if they’re running as conservatives.
petefrt on February 19, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Hillary set for “contrast”
speechscreech.Fixed the typo.
Beware the early polls. Clinton’s people could well be leaking numbers that make her the comeback victor. Less lack of experience triumphs over bumper sticker slogans about change.
highhopes on February 19, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Okay, you got me. That part was a joke.
But if you read the story, the main point is that it would be better if she lost because she would gain sympathy.
Of course, it’s much too late for that, she needs to stop the bleeding, not try to garner sympathy.
That’s why I used sarcasm to point out the folly of their logic.
Dorvillian on February 19, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Sorry, thought you were being serious about that. Agreed, it’s too late for the sympathy angle.
amerpundit on February 19, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Second look at moving to Costa Rica?
Chuck Schick on February 19, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Ding-dong the witch is dead…..about F’in time! Now the real business can begin, deconstructing the empty suit Yo-mama is! As I write this Bill O. is making excuses for Michelle Yomama…Bill says “I don’t believe Michelle dislikes America” very sad indeed, the millionaire “mick”
Shilling for Obama…already…and according to liberals Mr. O. is a republican tool! The hole is deeper than I thought.
dmann on February 19, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Pacific side…
Trust me.
Mojave Mark on February 19, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Hmm…maybe I won’t need to bother switching registrations to vote for the Hildebeest?
doubleplusundead on February 19, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Dear Dick Morris,
Where the hell are these 20 million Single Women, first time voters, that will come out to vote for Hillary and not factored into polling models?
jp on February 19, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Is it original sin….or just white mans guilt? Gag me with a spoon!
dmann on February 19, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Believe me, I know.
Chuck Schick on February 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Yeah, after that last update I am hoping Clinton is done for tonight so I don’t have to vote for her @ss on the 4th.
Vigilante on February 19, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Obama/Chelsea 08 ! You get obama who talks too much and a clinton who doesnt talk at all !
A balanced ticket !
William Amos on February 19, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Obama wins Wisconsin and Ding Dong the witch is dead?
After Wisconsin, it’s still only a DING. She can/will still steal it.
petefrt on February 19, 2008 at 8:25 PM
McCains VP choice is CRITICAL, the fate of mankind may hang in the balance!
dmann on February 19, 2008 at 8:27 PM
OH yeah, Thats the other thing I like about this, watching that idiot be proven wrong!
conservnut on February 19, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Agreed, except that she’s not yet 35. Don’t want to hold the sins of her parents against her, so I’m holding some hope she’ll turn out ok.
mikeyboss on February 19, 2008 at 8:47 PM
dmann,
Don’t you mean “gag me with a naked Hillary bobble-head doll?”
OkieDoc on February 19, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Not yet 35? Details. Just details.
petefrt on February 19, 2008 at 8:50 PM
I understand the reasons WHY, and I agree with them too, but I just can’t help laughing a bit too. To hide the tears, I suppose.
Really. I’d never ever ever thought that I’d see a group of conservatives, myself included, worried sick about the Hildebeest losing an election. Any election.
OK, so perhaps I’m not worried sick, my main problem in this election is that I want all THREE candidates to lose, but really. You just have to appreciate the irony.
Misha I on February 19, 2008 at 8:50 PM
No, the witch has the last laugh. Her final spell will be a Hussein and Silky Presidency to rule over us. This could be one hell of a few years coming up.
Pax americana on February 19, 2008 at 8:51 PM
petefrt on February 19, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Right you are, outright thievery will be required..post Rodney King LA will look like kindergarten if that happens!
dmann on February 19, 2008 at 8:53 PM
OkieDoc on February 19, 2008 at 8:48 PM
You twisted, twisted “F” the imagery has rendered me punch drunk without bail!!!!!
dmann on February 19, 2008 at 8:57 PM
CNN exits polls have Obama carrying men and women
William Amos on February 19, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Looks like a 10 point win for the Liberal Messiah.
infidel65 on February 19, 2008 at 9:05 PM
CNN exit poll does have a warning for Obama
William Amos on February 19, 2008 at 9:05 PM
McCain is giving his victory speech now.
fourstringfuror on February 19, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Heh.
Did you ‘borrow’ that from Virginia’s former governor, Douglas Wilder? (A black man, and a moderate, he said about the same.)
Just kidding. I think you’re right. Leftists get nasty when they don’t get their way.
petefrt on February 19, 2008 at 9:08 PM
McCain slams messiah! “Eloquent, but empty call for change…tired philosophy that trusts government more than people”.
WOW.
SouthernGent on February 19, 2008 at 9:09 PM
“Eloquent but hollow call for change…”
LOL nice :D
Sir Loin on February 19, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Anybody notice the cheap, poorly made American flags behind McCain?
fourstringfuror on February 19, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Another slam….enough experience from next leader of the US? He’s seriously slamming The Messiah tonight! Kudos to the McCain campaign!
SouthernGent on February 19, 2008 at 9:11 PM
good slogan “Free, Safe, Prosperous and Proud”
mikeyboss on February 19, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Where is he? Ohio??
Deety on February 19, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Well, if that holds, maybe we can finally kill the gender gap.
steveegg on February 19, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Yes…Columbua, OH.
SouthernGent on February 19, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Yep. You think anybody is crazy enough to stick around for subzero temps tonight? I will give McCain a bit of credit; he did stick until this morning.
steveegg on February 19, 2008 at 9:14 PM
See ya Hillary!
Gatordoug on February 19, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Thx. I was thinking Wisconsin. Both Mid-West.
Deety on February 19, 2008 at 9:15 PM
McCain is attacking Obama again. Either he’s convinced Obama will be the Democrat nominee, or he’s double-teaming with Hillary because he wants to prop her up, figuring she’s easier to beat in November.
A Hillary nomination makes life easier for McCain. He won’t need to galvanize the GOP base. Hillary will do that for him.
infidel65 on February 19, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Kudos to McCain!
Keep slamming Hussein!
Pax americana on February 19, 2008 at 9:16 PM
McCain seems quite lively and less rehearsed tonight. Hmmmmm…
SouthernGent on February 19, 2008 at 9:16 PM
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