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Have they missed the memo? OBL endorsed Kerry in 2004 and the Dems in 2006.
We’re taking it to them in Iraq, but their role backing moveon.org has me worried.
sulla on February 18, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Dumbass.
mikeyboss on February 18, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Adolf Hitler would have backed George Patton, too.
But- Gott in Himmel -a cyanide capsule prevented their meeting.
(And a stray bullet chaser.)
profitsbeard on February 18, 2008 at 10:13 PM
This “lazy thinker” thinks that Al-Qaeda would prefer democratic leadership. Their talking points are often the same, especially when it comes to the war in Iraq. The left wants to “talk” about our differences and negotiate a peace.
McCain sings about bomb bomb bombing Iran. Hmmmmmm. Seems clear to me, but maybe I’m just a dumb American.
Ordinary1 on February 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
What do the 12vers think?
BL@KBIRD on February 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Islamic terrorists want war.
Yeah but their long term goal is our defeat, surrender and conversion, therefore they’d prefer Hilbama.
Tony737 on February 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Of course. Why would they want a Lefty who will allow them to pursue their agenda around the world and build a network, when they can have a guy looking to blow their @sses back to the stone age where they belong?
amerpundit on February 18, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Did the dude get hit with the stupid stick as a child?
amerpundit on February 18, 2008 at 10:16 PM
The BBC should spend less time worrying about American politics and more time dealing with the jihadist brothers about to take over their own country.
fogw on February 18, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Nah….AQ is still trying to get their money back from Paul.
Limerick on February 18, 2008 at 10:17 PM
weaselzippers.net?
I’m afraid to click the link..
is something going to pop out at me?
Maybe like that thrill that shot up Chris Matthews leg?
Chakra Hammer on February 18, 2008 at 10:21 PM
So it’s not an act, the MSM really doesn’t get it. W decimated AQ…McCain just might finish the job. No, boys and girls in rainbow land, Osama (if still alive) most assuredly would not back McCain.
JustTruth101 on February 18, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Al-Qeada for McCankles !
Kini on February 18, 2008 at 10:22 PM
No, it’s ok. WeaselZippers is another blogger.
amerpundit on February 18, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Islamic terrorists want war.
They are literally claiming that we shouldn’t have responded whatsoever after 9/11 because that is what al qaeda wanted us to do…retaliate.
But I’d ask your Democrat/BBC type: wouldn’t al qaeda be extremely happy if we were to never retaliate against anything they wish to do to us? Realistically, wouldn’t they blow up a skyscraper every day or would they grow tired of the destruction once they discovered that they couldn’t “get our goat”?
Buddahpundit on February 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Be careful what you ask for.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 18, 2008 at 10:34 PM
The only bright point is that if the tools of the MSM get their way and the worldwide caliphate comes about, I will get to watch their heads be the first to be lopped off.
jukin on February 18, 2008 at 10:35 PM
[they couldn’t “get our goat”?]
[Buddahpundit on February 18, 2008 at 10:29 PM]
That is the funniest line all day.
cjs1943 on February 18, 2008 at 10:38 PM
The BBC–Britain’s tax dollars at work–is even farther to the left than our NPR/PBS–our tax dollars at work (unConstitutionally).
jgapinoy on February 18, 2008 at 10:43 PM
They are busy selling out their own country and want us to do the same.
TheBigOldDog on February 18, 2008 at 10:47 PM
No, I think this one was hit by the dumba$$ truck!
conservnut on February 18, 2008 at 10:49 PM
cjs1943 on February 18, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. “get my goat” is the national sport in Afghanistan. Not kidding.
Buddahpundit on February 18, 2008 at 10:50 PM
OK, that name is kind of “strange” >:}
Chakra Hammer on February 18, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Unlike the Herculean mental contortions one must perform to arrive at the conclusion that AQ really would prefer an administration committed to rooting them out and sqaushing them like bugs whenever given the chance.
O.K. I’m tired just typing that last bit.
Chalk me up as just another American too lazy to do the quality cogitating that Justin Webb is willing to bestow upon us poor benighted souls.
Deety on February 18, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Good lord,dinnerjacket and his flock,wait scratch that,
iminadinnerjacketnutcase and his sick wolves have been
spoiling for a fight for thousands of years,or since the
black rock told them to,or something like that,anyway
why is it that journalists always seem to know what the
cave address is for the story!
And,AQ backing McCain or vice versa,Oh please,Mr.Whipple
back away from the charmin,and nobody gets hurt!
canopfor on February 18, 2008 at 10:53 PM
The spirit of toleration and multiculturalism dictate that all men of good will vote for McCain in an effort to show Osama we don’t judge him.
snaggletoothie on February 18, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Heh.
Jaibones on February 18, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Which candidate would make their job easiest? Seems like a pretty simple way of coming to the best guess. As crazy as I am not about McCain, he ain’t it.
tdau1997 on February 18, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Eh, the BBC’s idiocy truly knows no bounds.
Priscilla on February 18, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Just a note, but you can trust pretty much everything that Allah or Bryan post. If there is an issue they will flag it with a “content warning.” FYI
Troy Rasmussen on February 18, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Come on guys! He’s right. al-Qaeda with its love for war would just hate having to sit down and talk peace with either Clinton or Obama. Imagine those grumpy terrorists folding their arms being forced to lay down their weapons simply because they would be asked to make peace. And they would have to and have no choice otherwise.
It’s not to late. Join the left and put that flower in your hair.
shick on February 18, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Dude? You’re lobbing stones? And yeah, HA links are safe for work, and elsewhere, or they’ll have a content warning preceeding them.
As for this BBC turd…apparently the spirit of Chaimberlain is alive and well.
TexasDan on February 18, 2008 at 11:20 PM
I say “may their wish be granted”.
Most Europeans want Obama. The Brits want Hillary. Americans, if they love their security/independence/well-being/way of life, should vote for whomever they don’t want.
Entelechy on February 18, 2008 at 11:23 PM
To clarify “vote for whomever the Europeans don’t want”.
Entelechy on February 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Here here!
4shoes on February 18, 2008 at 11:33 PM
So by this logic, I forget my anniversary because I WANT non stop grief for 4 months. Gee, now it all makes sense. I don’t support McCain for a lot of reasons, but the thought that he may be Obama’s BFF is not one of them. Damn limeys…
Big Daddy Cool on February 18, 2008 at 11:33 PM
About to? It’s ovah already.
SouthernGent on February 18, 2008 at 11:35 PM
What Al Qaeda wants is for America to leave Iraq, the FISA bill to fail, and Gitmo shut down. We all know which political party is in favor of those things.
SoulGlo on February 18, 2008 at 11:36 PM
No need for correction Entelechy. It still works out the same for me. ;-)
Deety on February 18, 2008 at 11:40 PM
“Trusted Analyst of the Week Award” goes to Justin Webb and it’s only Monday.
Dusty on February 18, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Heh. No doubt.
labrat on February 18, 2008 at 11:55 PM
This might be reverse psychology. Perhaps the BBC wants to get conservatives on McCain’s side by creating an absurdity that can only result in forcing rational people to defend the person who is being attacked, no matter how pathetic that person might be.
This could also explain all of the insane attacks against Bush that may very well have saved Bush from being impeached by conservatives for his methodical removal of anything vaguely conservative from the Republican Party agenda. The tactic is to give Bush, McCain, and the like, all sorts of room to move left while giving them defense cred cover.
If they aren’t doing that, they should be. It’s a brilliant game plan. Using the war to move the nation to the left.
Buddahpundit on February 19, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Interestingly German military leaders always rated Patton as our best commander. When your enemies fear you it shows how effective you really are.
As said early Al Qaeda wants victory not war. They are losing now and want the war to stop.
William Amos on February 19, 2008 at 12:18 AM
It worked exceedingly well for Wilson.
Deety on February 19, 2008 at 12:19 AM
When France and Russia and Germany backed Saddam over the Coalition of the Willing they earned the nickname “The Axis of Weazels”.
I believe Weazel Zippers was created to shut up that Axis.
William Amos on February 19, 2008 at 12:21 AM
LOL…I hear ya Chakra….this ol codger has learned to keep one hand on the cable connection whenever he hits an unknown link.
Limerick on February 19, 2008 at 12:39 AM
New real clear politics head to head. Mav down three percent now as opposed to six percent a week ago. Any suggestion of a national security crisis and that three point deficit turns into a Maverick blowout. The jihadi leadership is crazy buy not stupid. They know who pushed Rumsfeld out and dragged the bushies to the surge. Now with these Pakistani elections, ummmm.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 19, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Saltysam on February 19, 2008 at 1:33 AM
This is news?
Ugly on February 19, 2008 at 1:50 AM
Course not Ugly! This is what is known as cogent analysis.
Deety on February 19, 2008 at 1:58 AM
Since 9/11, the Left has been living with the fact that al-Qaeda gives them their full, unconditional support. Cognitive dissonance erupts all the time.
Halley on February 19, 2008 at 1:59 AM
Yes, al Qaeda wants America defeated. Obviously they can’t do it militarily, or by “converting” us. Their best chance at defeating us is to do the same thing Osama bin Laden and the Mujahideen did (with the help of the U.S. government — DOH!) to expel the Soviets from Afghanistan: wage an economically draining guerrilla war. They get the benefit of “big guy vs. little guy” to help in their recruitment. They pay considerably less per enemy casualty, they don’t have to abide by rules of conduct or any civilized code whatsoever. Our economy is already feeling the hit from the war in Iraq.
It might be reasonable to assume that al Qaeda wouldn’t go for a war-cheerleading candidate if we were at all capable of defeating their ideology with missiles and bullets. But we aren’t. At best it’s containment and weed pulling. Their numbers don’t significantly go down, but we keep on bleeding money until our economy collapses from debt, taxes, and devalued currency. So I think Webb is right: it’s lazy to think that they’d prefer a lefty. A lefty might stop the war in Iraq — a major recruitment tool and a major financial drain on America — but wouldn’t otherwise change our meddlesome foreign policy. That’s not a win for them. A win for them is our economy collapsing, or for Middle Eastern sentiment to further turn against us. And it is war-cheerleaders like McCain (“a million” years in Iraq, “bomb, bomb, bomb… bomb, bomb Iran”) who can make that happen.
Or do you really think that the 9/11 plotters didn’t expect us to react to the attacks? C’mon. It’s provocation with near-certainty of resultant conflict. You don’t do that unless you want a fight.
Mark Jaquith on February 19, 2008 at 2:00 AM
Mark Jaquith on February 19, 2008 at 2:00 AM
And the US response to AQ’s pre-9/11 actions led to what?
Saltysam on February 19, 2008 at 2:13 AM
A violent Tribal ideology may not be defeated by bombs alone but you can sure encourage their aggression by not using military strength to keep them reminded that if they dare, they die.
If converting us weren’t part of the plan for a world caliphate, they wouldn’t be here as schools and as CAIR type organizations.
Radical Islam isn’t a lesson learned, its a lesson in the making.
We have a world wide conflict, only partially completed, yet.
We will fight the modern equivalent of the Persians just as the Greeks did.
Speakup on February 19, 2008 at 2:33 AM
I submitted the following at that idiot’s blatherblog. We’ll see if it actually gets posted.
“Islamic terrorists want war.”
Wrong. They want radical Islam to rule the world. If they can do that without war, if people hand them victory without a fight, they would be satisfied with that – at least as a first step.
I’m not surprised a BBC reporter would be so ignorant of the well-known three choices for kuffir: “When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them… If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.” Sahih Muslim, Book 019, Number 4327. Also Qur’an 9:29.
So it’s convert, pay the jizya and be subdued as second-class citizens, or get violent jihad.
“They want suffering – among others and their own people alike.”
Now that is correct.
JimC on February 19, 2008 at 3:32 AM
the “i know you are but what am i?” level of political analysis.
Hiney Von Pewps on February 19, 2008 at 3:45 AM
If I weren’t sooooo lazy, I would think that that thinker out thought himself, I think.
Whew!
leanright on February 19, 2008 at 5:32 AM
We lost only 300,000 soldiers on the Western Front during the whole course of the war out of 5.5 million military casualties in total. The Ardennes Offensive specifically targeted the Americans because they were deemed the least effective fighting force and their home front to be prone to surrender in the face of mounting casualties.
GermanAtheist on February 19, 2008 at 6:23 AM
I think he’s right. Islam is not interested in anything but the total victory over, and absolute subjugation of all infidels. The left would deny them that victory. They will not fight, preferring instead to talk, to offer compromise, to attempt to create a concord. Those countries which have gone down this route are seeing the fruits of their labours. The muslim immigrants see them as weak, someone to be scorned, derided, and to be treated accordingly.
The job of organizations such as CAIR, is to help instill that attitude of no compromise by insisting that their ways be fully catered to. Your views are of no matter to them. Ideally, you would not be allowed to ever protest anything which they may instigate – because that would be both racist and against Islam, which must conquer all.
OldEnglish on February 19, 2008 at 6:36 AM
Talk about lazy thinking! Hey Justin, a lefty would give them an unopposed war, you know, like the one your boy Bill Klinton gave them back in the 90′s…. idiot.
Zorro on February 19, 2008 at 7:01 AM
What. The. Farg.
Ugly on February 19, 2008 at 7:17 AM
Of course AQ will back McCain.
• He will close Gitmo and dump their terrorists into our inept court system ala Clinton.
• He will ban waterboarding (which is not torture for the zillionth time).
• He will not secure the southern border allowing the free flow of 10% OTMs into the USA.
• He has the personal skills of Leona Helmsley which should go a long way in bringing along allies in the war against them.
Valiant on February 19, 2008 at 8:01 AM
It has some merit…OBL is STILL ALIVE and WELL according to GW and McCain and they are “actively” perusing him. I guess he can conclude that if this is their way of doing it, he may have another eight years with the Mav.
TOPV on February 19, 2008 at 8:01 AM
Good point. Do you think Republicans would have let President Gore let Osama run wild for 7 years after 9-11?
Valiant on February 19, 2008 at 8:09 AM
Yeah cause this sort of thing worked out so well when the Guardian tried “Operation Clark County” in the 2004 election. Soliciting US voters to vote against Bush.
Thanks for the red meat BBC.
Dash on February 19, 2008 at 8:15 AM
Justin Webb, BBC News, was responding to what amounted to a McCain endorsement in THE TIMES on Feb. 18, 2008 THE TIMES by William Rees-Mogg.
While Webb writes of McCain, notice that the photo is of Obama, the topic of William Rees-Mogg’s article as well.
So, despite the Obama momentum, McCain’s strengths keep surfacing. Even the most idiotic Webb assessment implodes against Webb, not bearing any negative affect upon McCain.
From William Rees-Mogg:
maverick muse on February 19, 2008 at 8:49 AM
Wrong. After doing nothing during the Clinton years and fleeing from Somalia, they expected more of the same. Here is Bin Laden in a BBC interview in October 2001.
We believe that the defeat of America is possible, with the help of God, and is even easier for us, God permitting, than the defeat of the Soviet Union was before.
Q: How can you explain that?
BIN LADEN: We experienced the Americans through our brothers who went into combat against them in Somalia, for example. We found they had no power worthy of mention. There was a huge aura over America — the United States — that terrified people even before they entered combat. Our brothers who were here in Afghanistan tested them, and together with some of the mujahedeen in Somalia, God granted them victory. America exited dragging its tails in failure, defeat, and ruin, caring for nothing.
America left faster than anyone expected. It forgot all that tremendous media fanfare about the new world order, that it is the master of that order, and that it does whatever it wants. It forgot all of these propositions, gathered up its army, and withdrew in defeat, thanks be to God.
And do forth.
I can’t provide a link because it’s from CNN but google Bin Laden+Somalia and it’s the 3rd entry on the page.
Buy Danish on February 19, 2008 at 8:53 AM
And [so] forth.
Buy Danish on February 19, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Let’s see: the Lefties want to grant invaders citizenship, give lawyers to people who shoot at us, haul our soldiers who shoot back into court, prohibit “discrimination” (presumably meaning that we have to shoot an equal number of bad and good guys), etc., etc….
And some idiot thinks that our enemies would prefer McCain???
landlines on February 19, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Right, whereas McCain is solid on immigration right? Whoops.
Well, but he doesn’t want to close Gitmo and give lawyers to terrorists, right? Damn, again? Two for two.
Dude, when you want to show McCain is better, you need to pick areas where McCain is better.
Steer clear of terrorist prisoners, Gitmo, interrogation, Bush’s tax cuts (although he’s had a reversal there), defense of the Constitution, Global warming, energy policies, or free speech. And avoid anything that ties back to the Keating Five could hurt too. Oh, and avoid marriage vows, or fidelity, or morality as topics as well. In these areas, McCain is as bad (or worse) than the Democrats.
Talk about the economy in general (without Bush Tax cuts), or earmarks or… Iran maybe. I’m not sure, maybe health care?
Really, not a lot of topics, but you just look silly saying the promoter of shamnesty who wants to close Gitmo and bring terrorists into the U.S. (and gain U.S. law protections) is “good” or “better than democrats” on these areas.
gekkobear on February 19, 2008 at 5:11 PM