Kosovo’s independence
posted at 5:40 pm on February 17, 2008 by Bryan
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I don’t have a strong opinion on whether Kosovo should or shouldn’t be independent, but there is a legitimate thing to fear from it and that’s that it may encourage separatists elsewhere into launching breakaway movements. Kosovo is majority Muslim; we might be seeing the birth of a new Islamic and Islamist state in Europe. Or we might be seeing the birth of a genuinely Muslim democracy in Europe. Time will tell.
Russia undoubtedly fears that Kosovo’s moves not only destabilize its longtime ethnic allies in Serbia, but that it may also renew separatist movements around the Caucasus, in Dagestan and Chechnya particularly. The Russians have fought two brutal wars in Chechnya, both of which started out as more or less conventional separatist movements but morphed into true jihadist movements. The jihadists in Chechnya have turned up as fighters as far away as Afghanistan, Pakistan and the Palestinian territories. Chechnya’s wars have influenced the global spread and ambitions of al Qaeda. The Chechen wars have largely died down in the past couple of years, but Kosovo’s independence, if it succeeds and turns in a jihadist direction, may encourage what’s left of the Chechen jihad to renew its fight. There isn’t much left of that jihad; most of its former leaders are dead and the rest have chosen to side with Russia. But that latter can change, and it’s always possible to recruit new jihadists to a fight. That’s a fight that Russia ought to win and the free world needs Russia to win, if it happens. Whatever we might justifiably think of and even fear from Putin and a resurgent Russia, the world doesn’t need a jihadist republic with caliphate ambitions anywhere, anytime, in European Kosovo or in the Caucasus. If Russia stands in the way of that happening, then Russia is in the right.
That’s not to say that Kosovo will become an Islamist state. It’s too early to say.
So where I come down on Kosovo’s independence is to hope for the best but be aware that it’s likely to encourage some of the world’s worst actors and jihadist revolutionaries to get on with their own separatist schemes.
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Also, I have family still in Serbia–Novi Sad, Belgrade and a few other places in Serbia proper. During the late 90’s I became very good friends of two sisters from Novi Sad. They were here on full scholarships that eventually led them to Vanderbilt and then professorships at Stanford. Anywho, somehow they got their mom over for Christmas one year and my wife and I went to meet her. The stories she told were amazing–and almost completely opposite of what the MSM were telling us. It was heart-wrenching listening to this woman talk about what the Albanians were doing and how badly Serbia wanted to get rid of Milosevic. She didn’t speak a word of English, her daughters had to translate. And these weren’t “peasants” this family was well-educated and business owners. I had no reason to doubt anything she told me.
This was @ 1996 or 97, can’t remember which year. It was even worse after the bombing started. My friends didn’t know what to do. They were very confused and depressed over seeing their homeland being destroyed. They grew up to respect America and democratic values, someday hoping to create a society like ours. They were devastated, but decided to stay here because it was safer and they had a future.
Also, I remember taking an English class in 1994 during college. At some point the professor asked me what the ethnicity of my last name was. When I told her it was Serbian, a crazy woman stood up in class and called me a rapist and a murderer. She promptly stomped out of the room to a totally confused and stunned class of people.
Mind you–this is in the South, where Slavs are very uncommon. I was totally Gobsmacked. It dawned on me then and there what kind of power the news had over people.
robblefarian on February 17, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Not really. 65% of Swiss are ethnically German and speak German, but you don’t really think of Switzerland as a Germanic country. A majority of Canadians speak English, but for about 35 or 36 of the last 40 years, the Prime Minister post has been filled by politicians from Quebec. And what’s the dominant language here? 52% of citizens are Protestants, but considering how many Protestant denominations there are (and how many Catholic non-citizens there are), that’s hardly “a dominant religion.”
That is just false. What about Jordan? Tunisia? Syria? And you’re missing my point. My point is that countries that are founded on race, ethnicity, language, etc., generally run into trouble. Heck, that’s the big problem in Iraq. It’s majority Shi’a yet was ruled by a Sunni. Lacking anything else to believe in, people regress to religion and tribe, and minorities are persecuted. Countries founded on something more substantive – if the people believe in it – seem to have more long-term stability. Kosovo’s going to have to work awfully hard to keep Serbian minorities from seceding themselves.
calbear on February 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM
And as far as Kosovo becoming a Muslim theocracy, I can see that happening eventually. As soon as they get set up, mark my words, Saudi Arabia will start sending over “Clerics” to educate the masses on proper Muslim “ethics.” Remember folks, were dealing with people that came into Serbia illegally, terrorized the population, lied and used drug money to make gains for themselves. Now they have to run a country on their own. Let’s get our troops out of there and see exactly what happens.
Just look at Turkey–its starting to turn into the exact thing we don’t want. The rise in fundamentalism is up in that country. There’s a lot to be concerned about.
robblefarian on February 17, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Pwned.
The Serbian rioters also attacked Slovenia’s embassy, since that tiny nation, which beat Serbia after 10 days of war in 1991, currently holds the rotating European Union presidency.
calbear on February 17, 2008 at 10:14 PM
You should brush up on the facts CHOSEN ONE, Tim Burton is right. Your swallowed some hogwash a long time ago.
Friendly Muslims,…..right.
BL@KBIRD on February 17, 2008 at 10:21 PM
The Great War wasn’t caused by the assassination. In fact, it was dealt with before the war started.
The issue was that the other countries lined up and got ready for war and no one was willing to back down. They were scared if they backed down that the other country would invade. So when Germany got worried that since France wasn’t backing down, that they were going to be attacked, Germany decided to jump the gun and rush in. They used the Schlieffen Plan and got the jump on everyone.
Tim Burton on February 17, 2008 at 10:27 PM
No, actually it isn’t. In fact, I explained it in more detail in a later post and listed a good report on the myth of the genocide.
Tim Burton on February 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Independant muslim state in Europe equals one more check on islamofascisism’s “To Do” list for achieving world domination.
Like an infection left unchecked, it wil spread and rot the health and life of everything it touches.
We keep this up and they’ll have nothing to do; we’ll put the guns to our own heads and smile at them so their feelings don’t get hurt while we pull the trigger.
Alden Pyle on February 17, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Understood, but there are a whole new set of parameters in play this time. In an area that is strategically important to a lot of countries in the region. The islamofacist factor being possibly the most troubling. It is troubling to the Russians as well as other players in the area.
The scenario that might lead to another big war might have different causes, but the outcome could be the same.
Just saying, this deserves watching, closely.
conservnut on February 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Both sides are guilty of war crimes. It’s rediculous to suggest that either had a moral leg to stand on.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 17, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Tim nails it, ends the thread. Do we need more???
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 10:51 PM
a leg to stand on???????????????????
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM
both sides are guilty of WHAT!!!???
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 10:53 PM
tim?
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM
War crimes you illiterate.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM
T I M ?????????????????????????????????
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 10:55 PM
i’m an idiot talk me back to the right side
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 10:57 PM
THE CHOSEN ONE
Both sides are guilty no doubt but on analysis who do you think started the horror story? Who started with atrocity as a method of politics? The religion of peace perhaps?
On principal I’ll give the Serbs my support over Islam in a heart beat.
BL@KBIRD on February 17, 2008 at 10:57 PM
v’mon
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 10:57 PM
can i bring jesus?
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM
the choosen one brings Jesus
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Lay off the sauce sunny.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 17, 2008 at 11:01 PM
BL@KBIRD on February 17, 2008 at 10:57 PM
You mean the same folks who started WWI?
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 17, 2008 at 11:02 PM
i don’t need suace during the praise of my lord, Jesus Christ almighty. I shelter below, and thank you for your watchful eye. keep my wife safe…you owe me
sunny on February 17, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Kosovo should not be supported. I came across a story about the New Map of America, it drives me crazy that we support separatist movements abroad when we all know that if the border counties with majority Hispanic (Mexican) communities threatened to declare independence and did so we would declare martial law and invade. We hurt those that would be our natural allies. With the establishment of Turkey the West allowed the expulsion of all Greeks from Turkey and Turks from Greece but Israel has to accept the return of millions of Arabs. Taiwan is being left to hang and will one day be forced to join with China but the many provinces of Yugoslavia are supported by the West in their attempts to break away. We would never allow any part of the USA to break away. If we continue to support this around the world it will come to the USA. With the rise in indigenous people immigrating north from Mexico and their Spaniard brothers declaring this is our land we will be fighting this fight in the future.
sjramos on February 17, 2008 at 11:18 PM
THE CHOSEN ONE
As tim explained earlier, WW1 was going to start at some point along the line anyway. When you study the plans and background you see that Europe was doomed to the spark that would come. Warfare needed transportation and logistics motion that had to be put in place prior to troop mobilization or carefully calculated plans would be thrown off schedule. As soon as the first side began altering train schedules Europe was cooked. The assassination was the spark that set it all off, not the reason. And the Serbs fought against Germany and Austria Hungary valiantly.
BL@KBIRD on February 17, 2008 at 11:22 PM
sjramos on February 17, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Revolts rarely happen when a subset group of people is protected and welcomed into a society or civilization.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 17, 2008 at 11:29 PM
True, but I think we should take the Russian’s side on this one.
Which means we need to watch Iran and Saudi Arabia. They will fund terrorists to go in there and to other countries to force their Koran-toting way.
Not quite sure where you are going with that, but I do point out in my link the whole story and the fact that Clinton purposefully lied about the KLA and made them out to be the moral equivalent of the Underground Railroad, when they were really no better than the
ItalianSicilian Mob…Tim Burton on February 17, 2008 at 11:32 PM
That’s why I enjoy being a Texan so much…we fooled em good!
Limerick on February 17, 2008 at 11:34 PM
All the opponents are suggesting that recognizing Kosovo will set some sort of precedent. The precedent has been set – this is exactly like East Timor. In both cases the parent country surrendered sovereignty by attempting to commit genocide. And it was genocide, every credible source backs that up ( and groups that use terms like ‘islamo-nazi corporate media’ are not bloody credible ).
And as for Kosovo becoming islamist? Islamists operate openly in Scandinavia, Britain, Holland and France. All without having a sovereign state. Denying the Kosovo muslims a country won’t effect Islamists in any way.
rjjago on February 17, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Limerick on February 17, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I had you pegged as a frenchman.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 17, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Nope….just a mutt like most everyone else in this country. A dab of this, a dash of that.
Please…in your wisdom….which people have been assimilated in a ‘friendly’ way during the last 5000 years?
Limerick on February 17, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I apologize to all frenchman for thinking Limerick was one of you.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 17, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I take it that it is impossible for you to answer a question. You love to make statements but are so short on facts.
Limerick on February 17, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Sounds like you feel the U.S. hasn’t been doing enough for our illegal Hispanic immigrants. Is that why La Raza exists? We haven’t done enough?
a capella on February 18, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Let’s see…Chosen’s statements today…
On the killing of Mughniya…
On how to fight terror…..
On ‘friendly assimilation’……
Simple questions were asked of you about those…
First…what did you mean by your first quote. Your answer…the second quote. The third quote I asked who these ‘friendly’ assimilations took form. Your answer is that I am a frenchman. So much for being the chosen one.
Limerick on February 18, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Questions do tend to stump him. He’s much better with unchallenged talking points.
a capella on February 18, 2008 at 12:07 AM
If the US is going to support a Jihad against Serbia – a country that’s never been at loggerheads with us – it has no business protesting when Russians supply Jihadis in Iraq or Iran, or do other things to sabotage the US in the Mid East. Russia has enough Mohammedan problems of its own in Chechnya, as pointed out by Bryan, but by taking the side of the Chechens and the Yugoslav Mohammedans (Bosnians and Albanians), the US has richly earned the enemity of the Russians.
The moral equivalence that some have drawn here between Serbs and Muslims aren’t much different from the equivalence drawn between the Israelis and the Palis. As for those who support Kosovo’s independence on the grounds of self determination, it’s worth noting that in northern and eastern parts of Bosnia is a region called Srpska, which is Serb majority territory. Those people too would rather merge with Serbia instead of Bosnia, but the US State Department completely opposes that. Essentially, the US has a pro-Jihadi double standard wrt the Serbs, and both Clinton and Bush have been guilty of butt kissing the Mohammedans. I don’t see any evidence that McCain, Obama or Hillary are going to change that. And I didn’t see any foreign policy statements on the Balkans from any of the other candidates – Romney, Richardson, Tancredo, Kucinich, Hunter, Ron Paul,… so there is no evidence that there is a real anti-Jihad candidate anywhere in the fray.
I’m neither a Serb, nor a Christian. However, seeing a Jihad being supported by the US is ominous, since it would end up in inspiring Jihadi movements elsewhere in the world, be it Judea & Samaria, Kashmir, Mindanao, Yala (Thailand) and a whole host of other places. And it will be anyone’s guess as to whether the US will be supporting anti-Jihad movements everywhere.
All the candidates who during the campaign trail loudly proclaimed their opposition to Jihad would do well to remember that it’s not just against the US and Israel (although given the pressures on Israel to cede land for rockets, even there, the opposition to Jihad is hollow). If the US isn’t going to support anti-Jihad forces everywhere else in the world, it doesn’t deserve the world’s support either.
infidelpride on February 18, 2008 at 12:12 AM
What a disturbing thread.
Reaps on February 18, 2008 at 12:28 AM
John Kerry also likes to find any old excuse to apologize to the French.
Are you two related by chance?
MB4 on February 18, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Why do you guys keep responding to THE CHOSEN ONE?…seems like an obvious troll to me.
EnochCain on February 18, 2008 at 12:56 AM
OK, I’m late to this thread. I’m trying to wean myself off of Hot Air for a while so I can do something productive. However, this is something I’ve studied a bit because of the war. We WERE on the wrong side of the war (this does not excuse the genocide during the civil war there).
GREATER ALBANIA is what this whole conflict is about. Here’s what the muslims do. They ‘immigrate’ to an area until they can get a large enough population to begin demanding special rights. Once they get large enough they then start a rebellion (Kosovo). What we are doing here is recognizing a land grab by Muslims.
It’s exactly the same as the Mexicans coming here and then causing all sorts of trouble until we give in and let them have their own country on part of what was once our land.
This has been going on for a while. Serbia and Milosovic were merely defending themselves the only way they knew how. Sure they did bad things during the civil war there, but the Muslims were not without fault or blame. We got in when Christianne Amanpour asked President Clinton what he was going to do with the situation when Milosovic was finally fighting back against the thugs in Kosovo. We were on the wrong side.
Mark it down, this is not a good thing. America thinks it is a good thing because we fought on their side. But this is nothing more than a successful land grab by Muslim immigrants. Russia isn’t the only one that this is bad for. This is a bad precedent for the whole world. This says that if you immigrate to an area with enough people, then you can just take the land as your own without regard to those who were there before. You might argue that’s what Israel did, but they needed a place where they could live without fear of genocide.
ThackerAgency on February 18, 2008 at 12:57 AM
This is what they are doing in Kashmir as well.
ThackerAgency on February 18, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Finally, this is why ‘democracy’ is not necessarily a ‘good’ form of government. The idea that if you have more numbers than the other guys means you are right is dangerous to minority groups. They use land grab, immigration, high birth rate to ‘prove’ that they are right because there are more than them.
If we had a global democracy, the only people in power would be Chinese and Indians. Think about that the next time you champion ‘democracy’ as some great form of government.
ThackerAgency on February 18, 2008 at 1:01 AM
No kidding, they are Swiss, and as such speak Swiss German not standard German, I mentioned that in my post. I also mentioned that while Italian and French are official languages the society revolves around Swiss German. Television programs, the news, print magazines, they all revolve around Swiss German. It is part of the Swiss identity. They have language cohesion. Immigrants do not learn French or Italian to get along in Swiss society, they learn Swiss German.
This is evidence of what? This refutes what? The dominant language is not English because the Prime Minister is from Quebec? Quebec does not have a language difference that undergirds their desire to become independent? Stop it really. Quebec wants to become a seperate nation based largely on their language differences. The official language is French… in Quebec. 23.2% of Canadians speak French that is about 7.7 million of that 7.7 million, 5.9 million of them love in Quebec! So the remaining 1.8 million are spread out across Canada. The dominant language in Canada is ENGLISH! The dominant language in Quebec is French. So I’ll rehash my quote…
We even have a Canadian poster trying to tell you the same thing…
When did I say Protestant? I said Christian. I never mentioned denominations on purpose, because denominations are inconsequential. Please do not try to make them so. Christianty is about Jesus as Lord and Savior. He died on the cross, and rose from the grave. That is what all denominations and Catholics believe. We may disagree on certain specifics but we all have the same identity under those basic beliefs. Weak.
Syria keeps thier “Palestinians” in refugee camps. They have not been integrated into society.
Jordan dealt with their “Palestinians” a long time ago, breaking off the West Bank to keep them from tearing the country apart. Making my point for me helps, the Palestinians went into Jordan and a civil war broke out.
Tunisia? That is North Africa dude. Are you telling me there are a significant number, say 30% of Tunisia’s population, that are “Palestinian” and there is no civil strife? I find that hard to believe since it is a real long trip from Israel to Tunisia.
I think you are missing my point. Countries are not founded on culture. Nation states and culture go hand in hand. The two are unseperable. As we progressed politcally humans developed the nation state, and nation states are drawn on cultural lines. I am not arguing for forming nation states on cultural lines as a practice. I am stating that nation states are drawn on cultural lines as fact. If not then show me people of different languages, and ethnicities, and religions that decided to from a nation together…
Iraq proves my point. Iraq is a artificial nation, drawn by western powers that is the only reason you had Sunni and Shia living together. The country NEVER would have developed like that on its own. That is why when Shia Muslim “Palestinians” were introduced into Lebanon and they changed the demographic the resulting civil war was as predictable as the tides. You seem to be under this pollyanna notion that nation states can be formed on an an ideal seperate from a national identity based on culture. Never has it happened in human history and it never will. Nor did you answer my question:
Since it is your opnion that culture is a poor choice to define a nation state what exactly do you suggest define us in 2050, when whites are a not the majority and 30% of the nation is Hispanic?
All 4% of them.
Theworldisnotenough on February 18, 2008 at 1:34 AM
Jorge Bush, America’s First Islamist President, strikes again. For a guy, who’s supposedly a Christian, he really loves making life hell for Christians from Iraq to Kosovo. His policies have been a disaster of Biblical proportions.
Mister Ghost on February 18, 2008 at 4:36 AM
Wow, this post brought out the lives ones didn’t it? You have a guy that’s linked to both VDare and David Yeagley. Choice reading that! Ron Paul supporter, you think?
DMeNTe on February 18, 2008 at 6:02 AM
Not so. they surrendered it in 1945 – it just took awhile for full effect.
And here am I, thinking that i am the only one in the West who thinks this. All of a sudden – I am not alone!
OldEnglish on February 18, 2008 at 7:26 AM
This view is popular but I disagree. I think it was the rise of leftism in the ’60s and the consequent decline of religious feeling (specifically Christian) and rise of libertinism that’s brought them to this impasse. This is also about the time when the education system was wrecked.
If you meant purely in military terms then I still disagree. The Mau Mau Uprising and Mayalan Emergency were handled quite well.
aengus on February 18, 2008 at 8:24 AM
Southern California by Mexicans…
right2bright on February 18, 2008 at 8:31 AM
I see one country and only one resisting this cr@p. Russia. We need to update the party line to say the Bear, for all its odd ways, is potentially a good and valuable comrade.
dhimwit on February 18, 2008 at 8:32 AM
Your comments, of themselves, are quite correct – I lived through them.
But, if the Welfare State had not been instituted, giving rise to the “dependency” syndrome, we would not have seen such a degradation of respect for the basic underpinnings of a civilized country – one of which is education.
A properly educated youth is far less likely to fall for the nonsense poured forth by the “Angry Young Man” mantra of the ’60s lefties.
OldEnglish on February 18, 2008 at 8:42 AM
Just a thought: If the agenda in Kosovo, overt or covert, is to institute a Sharia run Jihadist haven, it was very smart of them to profess friendship with America. After all, America doesn’t bomb its friends, does it? (Northern Pakistan?).
OldEnglish on February 18, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Yup. I’ve started writing a short story, kind of a satire, which envisions a future war between the US and jihadists in Kosovo: “The Mujahideen formed a barricade on Bill Clinton Bouelvard and unleashed a barrage of rocket fire against the hapless Marines.”
aengus on February 18, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Limerick on February 17, 2008 at 11:57 PM
The CHEESY ONE is always bragging about how high his IQ is but then proves incapable of using it to any extent.
I loved it when you spanked him and sent him to his room at 12:07. LMAO.
Kosovo’s independence is going to bite us in the backside before it’s over. It will end up being another terrorist bastion, and you can bet the farm on it.
They certainly do not have the right to steal away from Sebia. Remember our civil war and what we did about it? Why should it be any different in Serbia?
This is another Bush legacy that we will be forced to deal with later. He just does not seem capable of thinking things through to their conclusion.
leanright on February 18, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Spot on analysis. The world needs a strong Russia and Russia needs a strong leader like Putin.
Putin may not be democratic enough for some but the man knows what to do in a pinch. And he gets it done in a “I’ll rip your head off and $hit down your neck” efficiency.
Given half a chance, I’m thinking he would make a better ally than any we have now. Especially since the Muslim state of Britain can’t even wipe their own a$$ anymore.
leanright on February 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Blame Bush for Kosovo?
Very, very different circumstances. The War Between the States was just that – a war between two groups of (up until that time) independent states. The issue at hand was whether states could determine their own destiny, make their own choices. Ultimately, it was decided that they could not.
The situation in Kosovo is primarily an ethnic issue – ethnic Albanian, Muslim people who want their own sovereign state. Whether it’s a good decision, I don’t know.
fourstringfuror on February 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM
What I don’t get is where the UN, The US, the UK, NATO, the EU and all the rest get the right to prevent Serbia from protecting its own soveregnty.
As I understand it, Serbia is a legitimate, democratic state and a member in good standing of the UN. All states, including Serbia, are entitled to prevent their own dismemberment…the US had a civil war about it, as have had a lot of other countries. These are ugly horrible events to be avoided, but it is not illegal at international law to take all steps, including the use of force, to keep your state together.
So, on what legal basis have all the above parties been able to orchestrate the dismemberment of a European state.
I should add that I have no sympathy for Serbia per se in this matter. The Serbs have brought on themselves most of this…their brutality and cynicism, not to mention war crimes, during the breakup of Yugoslavia still remain in everyone’s memory.
But that is no reason to create a terrible precedent for everyone else. As a Canadian, for example, the last thing I would want is the United Nations dictating to us what we could or could not do to prevent the breakup of our country.
Blaise on February 18, 2008 at 12:34 PM
In other news, Serbia has recalled its ambassador from the US.
fourstringfuror on February 18, 2008 at 2:30 PM
I am an American soldier currently serving in Kosovo. All I will say–all I can say–on this matter is that the Muslims here are not the jihadist, head-chopping, sharia types. There is a fundamental difference between them and the worthless things we are killing (YES!) in the Middle East. The ones here openly drink alcohol, eat pork, and basically live a Western life. Many families are multi-religious, and yet have few problems.
Religion is not the driving force here; nationalism is. Many times, religion is simply a reflection of national identity. When an Albanian Muslim does something to a Serbian church, it is not because he hates Christianity, it is because he hates Serbs. (BTW, 30 percent of Albanians here are Christian of some sort.) Vice versa for Serbians.
So, argue the pros and cons of Kosovar independence all you want. There are many arguments on both sides, and yes, considering the possibility of Jihadist enroads here is a valid and legitimate concern. But please debate it from a more educated perspective.
Tommygun on February 18, 2008 at 3:57 PM
fourstringfuror on February 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM
You bet, and this time he deserves it. He and Clinton both supported and encouraged them to break away and now Bush had the US recognize Kosovos as a sovereign state.
Kosovos is an illegal breakaway area belonging to the state of Serbia, and Serbia has every right to defend and secure their borders and with whatever method and ally they choose. Yes, even Russia.
We need to stop thinking this country has all the answers for everything and learn to mind our own business.
leanright on February 18, 2008 at 7:00 PM
This is won of the dumbest things we have ever done. Kosovo is part of Serbia. Sometimes I think our foreign policy is designed to make the most trouble around the world.
duff65 on February 18, 2008 at 7:20 PM
The BBC last reported on this in March, 2001. What media bias?
Greater Albania
They’re not jihadis just like all the other Muslims aren’t jihadis until they are.
Beagle on February 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM
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