Videos: Hillary vs Obama in Texas, compare and contrast
posted at 11:09 am on February 16, 2008 by Bryan
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Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both have new ads up in Texas in the runup to the March 4 primary. It’s high stakes for both but higher for Hillary; a loss and she’s all but out. Check out the ads that both are running. First up, Hillary’s ad, “Lifetime.”
A friend of mine in Texas saw this on TV and says Hillary looks drained. I agree. She’s trying to come off as emotive but she just seems tired. And the line that she gets up every morning wanting to help someone just doesn’t ring true. She’s a Clinton. It’s a self-serving and self-centered line similar to the “I have so many opportunities” line she gave while crying in NH. It’s not truly focused on helping people but bragging about how much she intends to help people. Big difference.
Here’s Obama’s ad, “Our Moment is Now.”
Obama isn’t drained, he’s on fire. In his typical say-nothing-specific fashion, he comes off as including the voters in whatever it is that he wants to do, and the whatever is left vague enough that voters can pour their own desires into Obama’s intentions and claim him as their own. He’s not an empty suit so much as he has made himself an empty vessel into which you can pour whatever you want.
Me, I want the government securing the country, killing jihadi bad guys and staying out of my way. Right now the government wants to stay in my face and out of the terrorists’ way. I guess that’s why I don’t like either of these two candidates or the party they come from.
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“If you want total security, go to prison. There you’re fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking… is freedom.” -
— Dwight Eisenhower
“No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” -
— Henry Mencken
ronsfi on February 16, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Hey, now…worrying about what she can do for us “every moment of every day” has really got to take it out of ol’ Hillary. She’s our very own Mother Teresa….
Obama is simply a menace if he believes all the touchy-feely platitudes he’s spewing. And even more of a menace if he doesn’t believe them..
MrScribbler on February 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Total security is impossible. Serious security is necessary. With an open border and Congress dropping the FISA guard, we’re not even getting serious security.
Bryan on February 16, 2008 at 11:22 AM
I wonder how much the ACLU is pushing for the removial of FISA. They live and breath for that kind of lawsuit.
William Amos on February 16, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Remember, Bryan, empty-TV is extremely popular.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on February 16, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Me, I want the government to assert our national sovreignty and uphold the worth of American citizenship by expeling illegal aliens. And this is why I don’t like Obama, Hilary or McCain.
Their “unity out of diversity” (as per the second ad) is a far cry from the assimilatory e pluribus unum.
Tzetzes on February 16, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Hillary using the word “activist” in a Texas campaign ad is, well, completely f’ing insane!
Being a Texan, we don’t take to kindly to no dad-blamed ac-ty-vits ’round here. Ac-ty-vits don’t go round here…
But you gotta hand it to Obama. He’s full of piss & vinegar, and of course crap, but he’s a Democrat after all. Beating the Clintons at their own game is quite delicious.
Too bad one of the two of them will probably be President…
catmman on February 16, 2008 at 11:25 AM
But… but… our Speaker went to her daughter’s marriage! She was having a party! You can’t just expect people to do the nation’s business when they have a party to go to, and had half a year to pass the legislation beforehand! It’s simply not enough time! /sarc.
BKennedy on February 16, 2008 at 11:26 AM
“I’m very serious when I say, I think it’s disgraceful that the House of Representatives didn’t act and this is going to lapse. We’re fighting an implacable enemy here. I cannot imagine the House of Representatives not moving forward, and letting this bill just lapse. And frankly, I was proud of the president by saying he would delay his trip to Africa to try to get this thing done. This is a compelling issue of national security. … [W]e’re talking about the ability of terrorist groups that want to attack the United States of America to communicate with each other.” — John McCain
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 11:26 AM
ditto bp
Drtuddle on February 16, 2008 at 11:28 AM
My dad and I have been having a debate over which candidate is going to be tougher for McCain to beat. He thinks Hillary, I think Obama. We’ve both considered crossing the party line and voting in the Democratic primary, although we would obviously be pulling for different candidates.
I think she looks exhausted. Can you imagine what she would look like after 4 years in office? The presidents always look so much older when they leave office, but if she’s this whipped just being on the trail, what will the actual office do to her? Hopefully, we’ll never find out!
TX Mom on February 16, 2008 at 11:29 AM
C’mon, Hillary, pick it up a bit, girl. We need this thing to stay close right up till convention.
a capella on February 16, 2008 at 11:29 AM
When the Senate has passed the FISA bill containing the telecom immunity clause. Obama voted to oppose the immunity clause.
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 11:33 AM
“Common sense will tell us, that the power which hath endeavored to subdue us, is all others, the most improper to defend us.”
“It is from our enemies that we often gain excellent maxims, and are frequently surprised into reason by their mistakes.”
–Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 16, 2008 at 11:34 AM
I notice you didn’t respond to the part about open borders. Do you think if McCain would win the general, Juan Hernandez would get an important spot in the qdministration?
a capella on February 16, 2008 at 11:35 AM
If Dems wanted to run on eight years’ experience in the White House, Chelsea would have been the better candidate.
petefrt on February 16, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Unfortunately, that vessel has been filled with class warfare, populist, socialist, Marxist, Stalinst fecal material that stinks every time he reads off of a teleprompter.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 16, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Yep….Hill’s ad is swap-meet stuff. In Texas, the ‘activist’ line, is like showing your middle finger.
This spot for her ran back-to-back-to-back-to-back last night here in late night DFW. Dunno who is buying her air time but they really know how to depress someone.
Limerick on February 16, 2008 at 11:41 AM
He has repeatedly said he will close the borders first.
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 11:48 AM
no
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 11:48 AM
What I’ve noticed is Obama’s ads seemed longer to me than Hillary’s. I now know they are longer. He is running 1 minute ads, hers are 30 second ads. Money seems to be a problem for one and not the other.
Sue on February 16, 2008 at 12:03 PM
I have yet to watch much of Obama, but to underestimate him is at our peril.
Simply based on oratory skills that have distinguished our country from Lincoln to Reagan, we have been sorely lacking since Reagan IMHO.
Obama unfortunately is not a republican, nor conservative. However, for all his political and policy shortcomings to the discerning, he is a force regarding his oratory skills. I listened to his ad, without the video, attempting to be neutral with no name recognition attached. He is off the charts good.
With any kind of exposure in Texas and Ohio, he will be very competitive. By March 4th, barring any bad stumble on his part in the debates, I think he will swamp her. Unless they Clintonize him at the convention, he will be formidable in the fall. He will motivate millions.
Meanwhile, the only enduring phrase I get from ‘our guy’ is “my friend”, “my friend”, “my friend”. Ditch the friendship shitck and learn how to speak.
Starlink on February 16, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Yet, he continues to receive input from a dual citizenship, open borders advocate whose salary is paid by Soros, as part of his campaign team. Help me out with this, would you?
a capella on February 16, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Douglas was a better orator than Lincoln and he lost.
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Ayn Rand should be required reading in all classrooms. I do not agree with her every thought, but dang, people wouldn’t be so easily duped by politicians of ANY flavor if they took the time to read and understand.
President Obama–creating a government program for your every need. Uniting us through government intervention and empty slogans.
As far as the two ads, man, Shrillary’s ad sucks. She seems to be running for the President of the local PTA. Obama–good ad, if only more of his vapid speech material, but at least the crowd factors in. With Shrill–it’s all about her.
But hey, America is here for the Clintons. They DESERVE power dontcha know.
Montana on February 16, 2008 at 12:10 PM
You don’t want help. You simply want to bash McCain. He is our candidate. You need to live with that fact and support him and stop bashing him at every opportunity.
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 12:11 PM
You avoided my question.
a capella on February 16, 2008 at 12:14 PM
….because the facts are contrary to the message……
Starlink on February 16, 2008 at 12:17 PM
It’s possible.
http://www.korea-dpr.com/
True that we have inadequate security and it’s getting harder to attribute to incompetence. I’m not a twoofer but…all politics is conspiratorial to some degree. IMHO.
ronsfi on February 16, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I see that Hillary is working on hand movements to try make what she says a little more interesting. Face it, Hillary, Obama beats you in oratory skills.
terryannonline on February 16, 2008 at 12:37 PM
http://newsbyus.com/more.php?id=11163_0_1_0_M
a capella on February 16, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Unfortunately, there are millions of liberals and those within the parasitic underclass that would be more than happy to help them establish their paternalistic nanny state and welfare Mecca.
rplat on February 16, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Obama sounds like a preacher to me.
aero on February 16, 2008 at 12:46 PM
I saw Hillary’s ad for the first time last night. The ad came across as hollow because it appears she is shuffling around on a stage in an empty auditorium.
The Messiah’s ad on the other hand has his disciples screaming at his every word. I think he is going to annihilate her.
txsurveyor on February 16, 2008 at 12:51 PM
That is what he is suppose to sound like. That is his MO. He is preaching “hope” and “change”.
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 12:56 PM
There is no reason to try to answer any of your questions. Your mind is set to oppose McCain no matter what. So what is the point? It is like talking with a troll.
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 12:57 PM
At least Shrillary wasn’t screaching like a nagging wife. Maybe she finally understands how bad that grates on men.
txsurveyor on February 16, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Too bad Barack wasn’t a conservative. He’d go a long way toward making people actually listen to the case for smaller government, rugged individualism, and such.
Mark Levin on his radio show asked the question “How much government is too much?” It is a pity that no one in the media dares ask that question to ANY of the candidates.
itzWicks on February 16, 2008 at 1:02 PM
I registered as a Democrat before my state’s primary for the sublime pleasure of voting against Hillary. It was like manna from heaven, pushing the lever for Obama and knowing that Hillary would lose. This created a greater feeling of euphoria than any hit of crack could ever do.
Larraby on February 16, 2008 at 1:04 PM
So which is the stronger candidate for the Dems to put up against us? Hillary or Obama?
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Not at all. I’m on record here as praising McCain’s position on earmarks, his overall record of fighting pork, and his support for the military effort in Iraq. He has several good points. But, when we avoid pointing out his deficiencies, or namecall those who do, we sound like Obama’s addled groupies. I’ll probably vote for mcCain, but you shouldn’t interpet that as support for all his positions. Unless you support his position on illegal immigration, you would be more credible to address and discuss, rather than try to deflect the questions.
a capella on February 16, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Obama, without a doubt.
txsurveyor on February 16, 2008 at 1:16 PM
It’s “Saving Private Clinton” vs “Saving Private Obama” with those lush orchestral backgrounds.
Little Boomer on February 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Look, a capella makes a valid point to anyone willing to look at the facts. Michelle has made it numerous times regarding people on McCain’s staff, and you can’t dismiss her on the basis of mindset. I think all of us who are conservatives, would feel more comfortable with McCain’s bonafides if his now ‘conservative’ positions matched staffing that virulently oppose it.
Do you think the left would have a problem with Hillary having a prominent staff member who was well known leading the movement against abortion?
The problem is this is very easy to understand, but opposite of his stated intent if he continues to be unapologetic about it, much less at least quietly disassociating himself from him. None of this has happened and certainly inconsistent with his positions at best.
Read Michelle’s blog for the last 2 weeks for pete’s sake……
Starlink on February 16, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Reading you two praising this lying, cynical pos is starting to make me a little cranky, I must admit. He’s so full of crap, I can’t believe anyone would waste a primary vote on him, much less actually contribute money and effort to elect him.
It feels like I’m living in a parallel universe, and yet I know that all of his knucklehead supporters will see things my way when they grow up. The Clenis’s supporters came around; he’s one click away from being hated, and he’s already being ignored.
You all were wrong last time, and you’re wrong this time, and frankly I find it boring waiting around for you to wake up. It’s a curse, this being right all the time thing.
Jaibones on February 16, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Excellent points and I totally agree.
INC on February 16, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Could you give us a clue as to whom you are addressing, and which pos you mean? There are so many,….
a capella on February 16, 2008 at 1:44 PM
I was being tactfully critical of McCain’s staff, and you have certainly called it like you see it……..lol
Perhaps a parallel universe only exists when reality in the current one is no longer relevant - Captain James T. Kirk
Starlink on February 16, 2008 at 1:49 PM
I think Hillary does get up every morning thinking about helping someone - herself! What a bunch of garbage. Obama is bullshit too, but at least he SOUNDS sincere.
echosyst on February 16, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Bryan,
Bulls-eye, dude. Ya nailed it.
I can hear the exhaustion in Hill’s voice. She and/or her handlers are trying to turn her exhaustion to their advantage and make her sound gentler, more tender, compassionate, almost motherly. Problem is, it doesn’t fully pull me in to thinking that. Instead, I see the gambit for what it is but see through it. She’s just tired, but trying to sound caring instead. It was a smart decision to TRY to do that, but frankly, they should have let her take a nap for an hour or two, wake up a bit after come coffee and a short walk, and then have her try it again. Maybe they thought they didn’t have time for all that, but it would have possibly achieved their desired result. Instead, I think they just missed. Once again, Hill wiffs at the ball and misses.
I also 100% agree with you about Barack about that “empty vessel” point…I think you’re dead on, that this is actually a well-calculated strategy Obama and Plouffe cooked up, to make people sizzle with hope about a more positive future and better unity across party lines, and let their emotion surge toward that empty vessel. Not filling in too much specific was probably 100% intentional…to let people project their own expectations onto that object of hope, and thus take the nomination riding on a tsunami of hopeful thinking…I mean, hopeful FEELING. After all, these are democrats we’re talking about. They’re into FEELING. We’re into THINKING.
Interestingly, despite Obama never getting too darned specific about his future plans, working in downtown DC next to the White House, I often buy both the Washington Times (danged rag owned by Reverend Moon, yet still the only conservative rag in town) AND the Post (gawd I HATE that liberal rag’s slant)…simply because I want to understand what both sides are saying. In yesterday’s Post, there was an interesting article…with a comparison table next to it…comparing the details of Hitlery’s and BO’s economic plans and how they differed. It was the greatest level of detail I’ve ever seen on Barry’s plans (or Her Majesty’s, for that matter) EVER…and even then, it wasn’t THAT detailed. It was still interesting to get a better, more concrete read on their positions.
Which doesn’t mean I agree with them at all. They’re still libs, and I’m still a conservative. All I’m saying is, it was interesting to actually see a few facts I could let my mind chew on for a bit.
Shirotayama on February 16, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Just thinking about either of these two in the Whitehouse makes me sick to my spleen. It’s bad enough we have some many of them in Congress.
- The Cat
MirCat on February 16, 2008 at 2:23 PM
I think Obama could crater in the general election. Obama has skated through the primary with only limited criticism — and most of that he was able to counteract because Bill Clinton so transparently played the race card in South Carolina. But at some point, couldn’t McCain have a “where’s the beef?” moment with Obama, perhaps in a debate? I strongly disagree with McCain on several positions (e.g. immigration, opposing the Bush tax cuts, McCain-Feingold) but McCain is credibly a leader on Capitol Hill and has fairly well staked-out positions. Obama spent his life b-s’ing: he was the editor of the Harvard Law Reviwe but yet published no paper, he voted “present” in the Illinois legislature on almost every controversial issue, and has no real accomplishments to his name in the U.S. Senate. I have to think a lot of people in the general will be scared of Obama.
Of course, it’s equally likely that McCain will come off as a tired, grumpy old man and will not be able to rally the conservative base of the GOP, in which case Obama will skate through to victory. Hold on to your wallets!
Outlander on February 16, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Sorry, I was having a conversation with myself out loud.
Lying, cynical pos = Obama.
You two = those unnamed powers who continue to marvel at the wondrous empty suit.
Jaibones on February 16, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Bryan, this criticism of Barack Obama being an “empty vessel” is total BS. I’ve listened to many of Barack’s speeches (maybe 25 to 30 in the past month) and he talks specifics in each one, to the degree you can in a campaign rally speech. In his Townhall style events he goes into the kind of details you would expect from a lawyer who graduated from Harvard.
You, like many others criticizing Obama for not really saying anything, must believe that if your lies about him are repeated enough times then it will become fact.
It is you who is the empty suit in this constant false criticism of Barack.
Personally, I don’t agree with Barack on most issues, but I do like him and his wife Michelle, AND he has run a first rate honest campaign.
BTW, I just watched his rally on-line LIVE from Eau Claire, Wisconsin and he was outstanding.
olympian2008 on February 16, 2008 at 3:23 PM
You are in for a rude awakening. If it’s John McCain and Barack Obama in the general election the result will be a landslide in favor Obama that will make the ‘96 election between Bob Dole and Bill Clinton look like a cliffhanger.
olympian2008 on February 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Things slow over at DKos today?
Jaibones on February 16, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Better yet: name the three specific positions he outlined in the speech at Eau Claire and the timeline he mentioned for each.
Hint: they were all related to foreign policy.
Jaibones on February 16, 2008 at 4:02 PM
I listen to country radio station KILT in Houston and it seems like every other ad is one from Obama that says he has a plan for this and a plan for that. Doesn’t say what the plan is, just he has a plan. OBAMA has a Plan!
I haven’t heard one Hillary ad on the radio. Maybe I’m not listening to the right station to hear hers tho. I don’t listen to Rock or La Raza. ;)
atxcowgirl on February 16, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Touche.
Texas Nick 77 on February 16, 2008 at 4:24 PM
As I stated in a previous thread, I will cross over and vote in the dhiminicrat primary. Hey, they did it to us in IA and NH, and saddled us with RINOs as a result. At the moment, I am leaning to vote as a sexist (against Hillary). I think eight years of the Clintons in the White House did enough damage to the country. If Obama does beat our man in November, maybe we can get a conservative elected next time, if there is a country left in 2012.
Texas Nick 77 on February 16, 2008 at 4:29 PM
I’m toying with falling in love with Obama…but obviously, the rightie nutjobs on Hot Air will never give him credit for the specifics he brings up in his speeches. Would you mind listing those specifics, so those of us on the fence can point them out to the skeptics in the future? Thanks in advance,
RushBaby on February 16, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Texas Nick, if we really don’t want a Dem in the White House, the best chance to do this is for them to drag it out to the end and have a political knife fight at the convention. For that to happen, Hillary must win in Texas and in Ohio. Rethink your vote, if you want McCain to have a chance.
The Wicked Witch must keep pounding on the Messiah for as long as possible.
michaelo on February 16, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Olympian Douchebag: that’s what I thought, troll.
The answer to the riddle is that he didn’t identify three policy positions in the speech; he never does.
Jaibones on February 16, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Devious Devil! I suspect a mole. Oh yes! Oly’s a mole.
ronsfi on February 17, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Looks like she is reading the writing on the wall ……
gstrickler on February 17, 2008 at 3:31 AM
Of course Obama can get into a lot of socialist specifics at his rallies–only the Kossacks are devoted enough to show up there. But his TV spots are pleasantries & platitudes.
jgapinoy on February 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM
We’re weary of your eternal harping on the 20% that you hate about McCain. Why not be grateful for & focus on the 80% that you like, & after he wins in Nov., hold his feet to the fire then?
jgapinoy on February 17, 2008 at 5:32 PM