The siege at Berkeley: Not over yet
posted at 8:08 pm on February 16, 2008 by Michelle
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The Berkeley City Council may have backed off its obnoxious letter smearing the Marines, but the story is far from over. Yesterday, the Code Pinkos were back at the Marine recruiting center in Berkeley attempting to shut it down. The San Jose Merc News characterized the obstructionist attempt as “keeping vigil.” Not all of the northern Cali media outlets are apologists for the Berkeley troop-bashers. The Alameda Times Star editorializes:
After a meeting that went into the wee hours, the council voted on the revised resolution. It states that while the council “opposes the recruitment of our young people into this war, we deeply respect and support the men and women in our armed forces.”
That’s a step in the right direction — but a small one. The council stubbornly refused to revoke the parking space in front of the Marine headquarters on Shattuck Avenue and loudspeaker sound permit that it had no business granting to the anti-war group CodePink in the first place.
Ever since, CodePink demonstrators have chained themselves to the recruiting station doors and created a neighborhood nuisance with their extreme behavior.
Would the council have granted the same perks to abortion opponents intent on harassing everyone trying to enter a family planning clinic?
Of course not. This was a clear case of favoritism….
…Once again, we call on the council to revoke CodePink’s parking space in front of the Marine recruiting station and rescind the group’s loudspeaker permit. It is the fair, right thing to do.
Karl at Leaning Straight Up has YouTubed the marathon city council session from last Tuesday. Here’s a taste of one of the jerk city council members, Max Anderson, snorting that Berkeley “has nothing to apologize for” and blaming “right wing bloggers and “right wing talk radio:”
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I guess with what is happening in the Bay Area, I can see where Bloomberg is coming from. These jokers are acting like 3rd World crazies. Does Glenn Beck still have the barbed wire for a fence? After McCain follows through with our southern border (per his campaign promises, mind you), can we task him with securing our “left” flank as well?
Cold Steel on February 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Umm…how long before the next National Council and we can vote CA out of the Union?
Leonidas Hoplite on February 16, 2008 at 8:15 PM
What a shameful place. That just really rakes me over the coals.
Big Orange on February 16, 2008 at 8:16 PM
All the light and space has really put the zap on those people. The sooner they vote to secede the better.
Leonidas Hoplite on February 16, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Leonidas Hoplite on February 16, 2008 at 8:18 PM
If they do secede, I say we only give them Salinas and Watsonville. We keep the beauty of the Bay and jam them inland. Damn hippies.
Cold Steel on February 16, 2008 at 8:20 PM
You know, maybe the Marines should close Camp Pendleton and just base everything out of Parris Island. Can you imagine the howls of protest from those hypocritical asshats if they did propose that?
Leonidas Hoplite on February 16, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Don’t hold your breath. He still has to make promises to the “moderates”, and “Latinos” to win the elections…and ummm…
I am waiting to hear what comes out of the other side of his forked tongue.
TOPV on February 16, 2008 at 8:28 PM
I like the idea of giving Code Pink designated parking spaces. All the easier to exert that civil disobedience against the traitors. Reminds me of Campaign 2004 when folks who went to a Michael Moore “preview” came out to find Bush/Cheney stickers affixed to their vehicles.
In the case of Code Pink, I like the idea of designated parking so it will be easier for the wreckers to find the burned out frame…..
highhopes on February 16, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Well, at least Berkeley city council member Max Anderson gives right-wing blogs credit for being powerful. If we can only fool a million or so more people, we will be powerful.
thuja on February 16, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Man – this is something I’d expect from our left wing Canuckle Heads. That it is happening in the United States of America is beyond my comprehension. These clowns will only wake up when they’re staring down the sword of Sharia law. Nah – they’re dhimmi thru and thru.
Positively 4th Street on February 16, 2008 at 8:29 PM
It’s disturbing that there are such deranged people in positions of power. Max Anderson is a paranoid conspiracy believer who takes every bushitler “fact” with the strongest faith, and has no critical thinking skills beyond hatred and BDS.
These fools will never be shaken from their hatred of America, just as the WWII German nazis could not let go of their hatred of the jews. There is more than a passing similarity in these hatreds.
stonemeister on February 16, 2008 at 8:34 PM
I’m sure Juan “Z-Visa” McCain is willing to reach across the aisle to these people………again.
DfDeportation on February 16, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Rush Says: “When they say ‘talk radio’, they mean ‘Rush Limbaugh’.”
I Say: “When they say ‘right wing bloggers’, they mean ‘Michelle Malkin’.”
malan89 on February 16, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Leonidas Make that NORTHERN Caifornia.
N_O_R_T_H_E_R_N!!
Southern Cali, From Camp Pendleton on down is Republican. (The deserts are (R), too.) We still voted Republican even after the Duke Cunningham scandal.
In fact the only DimoCraptic area is from LA through San Fran. The area that will drop off into the sea during the big quake, if you look at all the fault lines on a map.
Mazztek on February 16, 2008 at 8:49 PM
IRAQ: The anti-Berkeley
The news has been full of stories about the opposition of some residents of Berkeley, Calif., to having a Marine Corps recruiting office in their city.
The city of Dana Point, just north of Camp Pendleton, takes a different view of the Marines. Backed by the Chamber of Commerce, the city “adopted” the 5th Marine regiment in 2004. It has organized many events for troops and for the families of those killed in action.
On Friday, the latest Dana Point gift boxes were distributed: two Humvees full of bags of home-baked oatmeal cookies, Bibles, blankets, and Nissin Cup Noodles.
“They’re family,” Lt. Col. Robert “Ogre” McCarthy, the regiment’s executive officer, said of Dana Point residents.
The attitude of Marines toward Berkeley? Don’t ask.
— Tony Perry in Al Asad, Iraq
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Why don’t they not say anything and enforce the damn laws? How radical is that?
Blake on February 16, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Actually, I’ve always viewed the Code Pinkos as an argument FOR Sharia law, specifically, the burkah.
If ever there was a group of women that NEED to be covered from head to toe in public, it’s those uggos.
Added bonus: muffles the sounds of their perpetual jibber-jabber!
SuperCool on February 16, 2008 at 8:55 PM
If I am reading this correctly, it sounds like Code Pink isn’t blocking anything right now. What they are doing is making a lot of noise that is intended to intimidate the Marines (good luck!) but is disturbing to local businesses. Now they have a permit from the city for the megaphones. My suggestion would be for some businesses to file suit in a municipal court to get the sound systems silenced. Just my 2-cents.
PS: The conservative position would be that this is still not a federal matter, this is a local matter and should be handled locally. We don’t want the feds telling us how much or how little noise we should have in our towns.
bnelson44 on February 16, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Councilman Max Anderson, sir, you are liar and a traitor. I will enjoy watching you receive your rebuke. And that day will come, traitor.
Zorro on February 16, 2008 at 8:57 PM
I’m glad you’re on the case Zorro. When you slap that Z on his shorts, make sure you give him the back of the hilt across his head for the rest of us.
Cold Steel on February 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM
We have renegade politicians as mayors and city councilors who live off the federal teat, while imagining they have sovereignty.
As much as I blame them, I blame the Bush administration for letting them get away with this crap. Let them defy federal policy at the cost of losing federal funds. Simple as that.
petefrt on February 16, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Hey SuperCool, wanna volunteer to challenge the Berkley City Council’s cred on “tolerance” and “respect for other cultures” by accusing Medea Benjamin of witchcraft?
Deety on February 16, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Probably your analysis of the current situation is accurate. I’m spouting off more generally. It really annoys me that local politicians seem to think they have a license to defy the USA whenever it suits them, whether it’s immigration law, military recruitment or who knows what else. It leads, of course, to anarchy.
petefrt on February 16, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Crybabies.
bloggless on February 16, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Cold Steel, it shall be done!
Zorro on February 16, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Hey, why don’t we organize some sort of display to support
theOUR Marines? How about we all send a single red rose to the Recruiting station? Have the whole country send a rose of support totheOUR marines. It would send a clear message. Let’s see the pinkos deal with that. Right back at ya, pinkos.bloggless on February 16, 2008 at 9:29 PM
I’m not sorry the Iraqi’s executed Saddam. If they haven’t we could have sent him to Berkeley to run for mayor. I wonder if they would have liked the torture chambers and the like. Next Earthquake, send the Red Cross, but leave the Marines, Coast Guard, Army, Navy, Air Force and National Guard out of it. Berkeley would rather go it alone. Good luck with that.
I feel sorry for the few Conservatives that must live in the area. I’d like to thank them for the courage they showed with the support they showed for the troops during the recent demonstrations!
Ordinary1 on February 16, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Awesome idea
Ordinary1 on February 16, 2008 at 9:33 PM
The people of Berkely have lost their minds. Look at this poll! I hope DeMint’s bill can somehow get passed. The don’t deserve any federal help should disaster arrive their way. Bless the Marines! F*** Berkely!
SouthernGent on February 16, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Was explaining this situation to my 13yr old son in the car on the way home from a day of skiing. He thought the SemperFi Act was a great idea, but also thought that there should be a special “tax” on the city, kinda like a federal or state penalty tax. Of course, it should hurt the pocketbook, but could also be used to apply to the next Berkely down the road…
dish on February 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM
For someone who is a city council member, Anderson sounds like he spends too much time reading the Daily Kos.
terryannonline on February 16, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Let’s do it! Anyone got any ideas on how to get the word out? It wouldn’t cost much. We would need a local florist. Let’s see how many roses our guys can get.
bloggless on February 16, 2008 at 9:47 PM
For someone who is a city council member, Anderson sounds like
he spends too much time reading the Daily Kos.a jerk. There, I fixed that for you.bloggless on February 16, 2008 at 9:48 PM
I’m down wit dat, playa. Although, I suggest that the trial be held in Saudi Arabia.
Better idea. Everyone organize to send a can of red paint in support of the troops. Paint may be used two way: First, paint the communist appeaser parking space red (it’s the appropriate color, ya know). Second, use the paint ala the wackjobs at PETA. Spread red paint on the commie Pinkos to show them how much blood has been spilled for their freedom. You may wish to substitute saliva for paint, but let’s keep it civil.
Whatever happened to people citing Voltaire’s quote regarding free speech? Doesn’t anyone live by that anymore?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 16, 2008 at 9:50 PM
If he isn’t a commenter or a diarist, I’ll be surprised.
BKennedy on February 16, 2008 at 9:53 PM
They are still protesting the Vietnam war. Even this councilman said it..”we have elevated the Viet…er…Iraq War….”
These hippies are nostalgic, missing their youth, and this is how they act out.
p40tiger on February 16, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I’m so proud to be apart of Max Anderson’s pain.
RIGHTWING BLOGGERS RULE….
where’s my pizza
Kini on February 16, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Again, what does his odoriferous diatribe have to do with roads, police, fire, parks and schools? That’s what city councils are for.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 16, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Nothing a Tesla coil wouldn’t cure.
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=tesla+coil&btnG=Google+Search
Speakup on February 16, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Maybe we could all go out there and jump up and down on the fault line. What a bunch.
Big Orange on February 16, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Deety on February 16, 2008 at 10:06 PM
So, Max, you “asked the Marines to leave, voluntarily…”
Kinda like that old line, “Nice house, it would be a shame if something happened to it.”
Like that, Max?
You’re no better than the Mafia. You just come from a more twisted point of view.
john1schn on February 16, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Why are they STILL on the illegal war kick?
Can someone PLEASE explain it to me?
Mortis on February 16, 2008 at 10:33 PM
The “summer of love” happened like 40 years ago and they’re still not over that fairy tale. Whadd’ya expect from them?
Deety on February 16, 2008 at 10:38 PM
This imperfectly literate council member has not a shred of truth in his petulant diatribe.
In truth they are a pathetic embarrassment to their share of the planet. They lack the articulateness required to gain credibility. They are akin to the Westboro Baptist Church. Give them an even bigger bull horn, it’s like rope for hanging.
BL@KBIRD on February 16, 2008 at 11:13 PM
On a more serious note, idiots like those cling to the illegal war narrative because they think that it inoculates them from the charge that their objection to the war is merely a fundamentally immature and vacuous reflex motivated more by BDS than a rational and moral evaluation of the particular circumstance.
Does anybody really think that if they were somehow persuaded that the war is in fact a “legal” one that Code Pink and their ilk would be mobbing Shattuck Square in order to show support for the Marines by enlisting themselves or encouraging those who do volunteer to enlist?
Their insistence upon the “illegality” of the war is just another instance of the magical thinking that passes for reasoned opinion in such circles.
They really do believe in the omniscience and omni-benevolence of the collections of petty bureaucrats and homicidal kleptocrats that constitute their beloved “world bodies”. So far gone are they in their magical thinking, they will continue this particular appeal to authority in the hope that it can somehow make it as if this war had never happened. ‘If only the world would agree on the illegality of war’, they think, ‘no further blood will be shed and peace will reign on earth ever-more’.
Deety on February 16, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Grats to the paper for coming up with a perfect example of the left’s hypocrisy in this situation.
Benaiah on February 16, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Whatever drug they’re taking, avoid it at all costs!
Brain rot alert! — BRAIN ROT ALERT!
profitsbeard on February 16, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Solution to our problem…..
Couldn’t we get Mahmoud Ahneedadinnerjacket to issue a fatwa of some kind? That town is definitely fulls of whores….
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 16, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Too late, dude. It’s in the water.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 16, 2008 at 11:47 PM
The city didn’t have the authority to evict the Marines and didn’t want to evict the Marines, except that they want to change the zoning laws so that the Marines would have to move their recruting office elsewhere. Spoken like a true politician weasel who won’t admit to his position.
I feel sorry that if that “jerk senator” (there’s a badge of honor: being called a jerk by the Berekely CC) gets his way, the children of Berekely might not get their gourmet organic lunches. The unfortunate kiddies may have to eat “regular” food just like everybody else. Yes, for the city council and Code Pinkos it’s all about the chillllllldddrreeeennn.
Mallard T. Drake on February 16, 2008 at 11:52 PM
I completely agree with the red paint theme, but take it one step further. Hit their car with a paint gun (filled with red paint balls) once for each hour they park it there. But I would paint their spot camouflage.
Maybe the EPA could put noise sensors in front of the recruiting station and fine the city of berkley for every incidence of noise above the safe level for a work environment. OSHA can give them the figures.
I smell an IRS audit for Maxine Anderson.
Hammie on February 16, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Enjoyed how the closed captioner pulled the stealthy ninja edit/corrections on his more egregious assaults on the language. Made me chuckle.
That such an obvious willfully ignorant, unwarrantedly self-important, inexplicably arrogant (and halting pretender to the oratorical skills that the narrative insists that all black politicians have) piece of work such as this is in a position of responsibility I found less chuckle-worthy.
Well, perhaps due to biology his parents tolerate him. I certainly will not. Were he within my purview, or should he become so, I would treat him as an unwelcome and uninvited intruder.
Uncle Pinky on February 16, 2008 at 11:56 PM
The lengths they won’t go to, just to make sure that no kid from Berkeley ever has to eat an MRE.
Isn’t this taking being a food snob just a bit far?
Deety on February 17, 2008 at 12:02 AM
They weren’t out there when we went by today…if they had been we’d have stopped and brought coffee to the Marines, or something. We did see a few protesters outside the Wells Fargo on the corner of San Pablo and University, though…a long way down the hill from the University and from Shattuck.
We sneered at them. What were they protesting? Who knows? Some anti-war stupid stuff. My son said the loons came down out of the trees and moved down to Shattuck to protest the Marines. I guess it’s hard living in a tree in the winter.
Bob's Kid on February 17, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Of all the @sshats in this world, this guy is the sombraro.
I’d like to volunteer to pay the Berkeley Marine Recruiting Center rent for a month. Does anyone know if this can be done?
JetBlast on February 17, 2008 at 12:29 AM
I don’t know. I’d wait until I found out whether or not the land-lord intends to renew the lease. Besides, you’re already paying their rent as it is. Not necessarily voluntarily but at least you can feel a little happier come April. ;-D
Deety on February 17, 2008 at 12:49 AM
I’m not getting why some conservative legal group like the American Center for Law and Justice is not suing the City of Berkeley for discrimination in the case or the Code Pink parking space. It seems clear cut to me. I mean, I can’t get a designated parking space in front of the mayor’s house to protest, so why does code pinko get one in front of the Marines recruiting office. If nothing else, it would be a nice high profile case for one of these groups.
Can someone explain to me why this isn’t being done?
tballard on February 17, 2008 at 12:54 AM
By the way, keeps those cards and letters coming to the Berkeley City Council
– they need to hear from us. I’m sending several thousand emails, hundreds of faxes, a few dozen letters and making multiple phone calls to them every day. They probably think this thing is going to blow over with the last City Council meeting, but until they rescind the code pinko parking spot, they need to keep feeling the heat.
tballard on February 17, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Probably because the City of Berkeley would argue that they are mandated by Federal Law to provide Code Pink with special parking because of the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Deety on February 17, 2008 at 12:59 AM
To whit:
Deety on February 17, 2008 at 1:10 AM
OK, you got me there.
tballard on February 17, 2008 at 1:31 AM
+1 well said
Liberalese 101: tell a load of outrageous BS, half truths, innuendos and flat out lies enough and eventually their minions in the MSM will make it fact for them.
It’s seriously time to encircle Berkeley with every troop available long enough to wall it off from the rest of the US and let them live their dream and become part of China. I’m pretty sure the National average IQ will jump 50 points once that lot are taken out of the equation.
MannyT-vA on February 17, 2008 at 3:09 AM
That particular fault line will not seperate as commonly misepresented my MMM. LA is on one side and sfo is on the other. The fault will smash the two together. California will still be part of the continental US; but, much shorter. And again, it is burqaley and cesspool frisco that should be entities of their own, not all of California.
ttevolla on February 17, 2008 at 5:23 AM
Commies.
Black Adam on February 17, 2008 at 5:54 AM
That is so not the point and you know it. Berkeley can’t “regulate” a federal entity like the Marine Corps. Who does this asshat think he is? I heard another of the city council morons the other day on Michael Medved… she was a total loon. Spouting all this DKos/Soros statistics on Iraq, calling us all rapists and murderers. The next day i was calling congress to push the Semper Fi act.
I have been a soldier all my adult life. I have sacrificed more for this great country than any of those f$$#king hippies ever will by chaining themselves to a door or sending a stupid letter.
To the Berkeley city council: We are not mad you sent “truth to power”…
1. we are frustrated because we realize that the reason you can be nothing more than big adolescents is because people like us freed and keep this country free.
2. We are upset because we are doers and you are complainers who make excuses for bad people.
3. We loath you because you get to live in a ‘fair tale’ world because others are willing to live in the real one.
4. We get sick when you call yourself “brave” for carrying a sign. (in china maybe… but not here, why? see #1).
5. we are mad because, after all we have given and all we have lost, you spit in our face and say we should be charged with war crimes
BadBrad on February 17, 2008 at 7:23 AM
And to think…the military defends this A-holes right to bloviate!
Golfer_75093 on February 17, 2008 at 8:30 AM
This jerk Max Anderson reminds me of this equally moronic idiot they had on Hannity and Colmes not too long ago. I can’t recall the bozo’s name, but he was with the San Francisco City Council and he made a statement, live on the air, that we didn’t need a military. Alan Colmes was absolutely thunderstruck and asked the guy to repeat what he just said. The clown repeated himself with nary a blink. For someone like that to stun someone like Alan Colmes is enough to give one pause to wonder exactly how many other yoohoos like Max Anderson and this nut are running around in public office.
pilamaye on February 17, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Freedom of speech? Wait until Islam takes over Bazerkly. Let’s see if they are speaking freely. (Then they will look to that Marine standing on the wall.)
saved on February 17, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Ordinary – During the next quake, men and women in uniform will pour into the city to save, feed and treat the citizens. We will rebuild their infrastructure in the face of their blinding hatred. Such is the measure of our character.
The only part that infuriates me is that it won’t change a single mind.
Troika37 on February 17, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Liberals look Pretty In Pink.
Travis1 on February 17, 2008 at 10:16 AM
The sad truth is, these folks have no problem with war per se. They have no problem with sending Marines to kill and die. They just want Marines to die for global socialism and not for “Amerikkkan fascism.” They’d kill every brown person in sight if those brown people were unrepentant capitalists.
These people are tools.
spmat on February 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM
What do you want to bet the recruiters at this station are exceeding their monthly goals.
sanclemman on February 17, 2008 at 10:54 AM
I am curious how often this story has been mentioned on the nightly news broadcasts. My guess would be not very often. I would say the total would barely be more than the number of supermodels I have dated.
chief on February 17, 2008 at 11:34 AM
How about the marines parking a nice tank in that ‘reserved’ space. If necessary they could roll over whatever rubbish is currently occupying that location.
Annar on February 17, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Wow! Max Anderson:” We’re trying to protect our young people from a distorted, twisted life that can come as a result of being lied to fraudulently enlisted, and coming back to a country that then turns their back on them in terms of health care…”
What about trying to protect our young people from living a life under the threat of terrorism? Or protecting our women from Islam and all the horrors that come with that? What about simply exposing our young people to alternate points of view, besides that of the nutty code pinkers and the commie America Can’t Wait wierdos????
4shoes on February 17, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I ‘d like to know why Code Puke’s aren’t being charged with obstructing a legitimate, licensed business from operating…anyone have any idea?
Curious why the Marines didn’t come out and cut the chains and allow the inquisitive young men to enter and receive info about the Marines? Just being Marines above the fray of these drugged up radical hippies I imagine. Like to see em kick some a$$ of the CP’s and some of those mealy mouthed cops also, bet they wouldn’t be as quick to demonstrate the next time.
oldernslower on February 17, 2008 at 1:08 PM
I happen to hear that fool also. Her level of stupidity is beyond description.
Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval appearing on “Hannity & Colmes” to defend the USS Iowa decision and claiming, with a straight face, that “the United States should not have a military.”
ttevolla on February 17, 2008 at 1:08 PM
This afternoon wouldn’t be too early…
oldleprechaun on February 17, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Want some of the ‘bigots’ to cross back over John? Give you their vote?….Then pull your damn campaign bus into the parking place, get out, shake a couple of Marine’s hands, and then drive on. You don’t have to make a Federal issue out of it. Just doing THAT would get you another 500k votes.
Limerick on February 17, 2008 at 1:32 PM
I think you misunderstand the situation, Michelle. San Jose is actually far, far, far more conservative than Alameda, tending towards the libertarian; Tom Campbell was Congressman there and never voted out. From what I’ve read, the News reflects this; although editorials sometimes take a “liberal” side, often they do not. I’ve worked for a (small) newspaper, and the fact is that headline writers often misstate the content of articles in order to be both compact and “clever.” I don’t think this reflects an overall “apologist” opinion that the Marines have to need vigilantes to counterbalance their activities.
Still, it’s good that, unlike many commenters, you can draw the distinction between “Berkeley city council member against Marine recruitment” and “Californian”; I suspect the vast majority of those fitting the latter description do not approve of the antics in Berkeley.
calbear on February 17, 2008 at 2:23 PM
And fifthly, Mr. Anderson, here’s to hoping that Berkeley’s first responders don’t sacrifice their blood and futures trying to save you parasites if ever there happens to be an AQ attack there, or a Northridge 94′ quake (or worse) pays you a visit.
Here’s to hoping they stay put at their station houses, cus’ you’re just not worth it. Not one of you.
Not worth a damn, in fact.
Teddy on February 17, 2008 at 2:32 PM
I don’t think we should be giving our tax money to Berkley or San Fran. just pull out anything to do with Armed Forces and give their Federal Aid to States that love America. Simple…….
ahkjr33 on February 17, 2008 at 4:04 PM
I think this speaks volumes to the people that would vote in this lunatic liar. Oh, hows them there grammer learnin lessons goin. Just about done did? The children he hides behind, when all else FAILS, have no chance at developing their own minds in this commune.
oakpack on February 17, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Protecting arrogant asses like Anderson is what we do. And service in the Corps has been entirely voluntary for more than three decades. Max Anderson? You’re welcome, Sir. No charge, it’s part of the package. Now kindly get off our backs. We’ve a war to win.
Kadnine on February 17, 2008 at 6:49 PM
So what happens if we deploy 1 armed Marine to the abortion clinic in Berkeley and turn that into the new recruiting station?
Will code pink block that?
Just asking.
F15Mech on February 17, 2008 at 7:04 PM
Is douchebag hyphenated?
Claypigeon on February 17, 2008 at 7:33 PM
So the conservative position is that instruments of the federal government have to put up with harassment from city government?
I don’t think so. Yes, zoning and protest permits are certainly the business of local government rather than state or federal. But when the zoning and the protest permits — and loudspeaker permit ! — are designed to harass the federal government’s military, then the city government in so doing makes it a federal matter.
I see no reason why a city government has the right to harass the federal military.
Now if the city government were truly neutral during these protests, you would have a really good point.
theregoestheneighborhood on February 17, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Good question. As I understand it, if the recruiting station were to invite a pregnancy counselor whose advice potentially included information on abortion to come 1 day a week, and they put up a sign to that effect in the front window. then Code Pink could be arrested under federal statute for their current behavior.
I’m vehemently opposed to abortion, but I’d love to see the reaction to that.
theregoestheneighborhood on February 17, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Does having an unarmed “insurgent counselor” come and talk to US Marines count as abortion?
If so we can close down Gitmo.
/sarc
F15Mech on February 17, 2008 at 8:39 PM
There Federal funding should STILL be sent to the Marines….what have they done to warrant keeping it.
Bubba Redneck on February 17, 2008 at 11:12 PM
ThereTheir Federal funding should STILL be sent to the Marines….what have they done to warrant keeping it.…all better
Bubba Redneck on February 17, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Yes, and they must continue to do so, no matter how distasteful it may seem for by doing so their argument is shown to be invalid and childish. Our strength rests in our ability to discriminate the good from the bad, which in this case is a no-brainer. This can only be done if all sides can be heard. By defending their right to speak you, in the words of St. Paul, “heap hot coals on their heads” and they show their lack of grey matter. If not, then you end up with a USSR, a PRC, a DPRK, or worst yet a Berkeley. Remember that all someone has to do to show their ignorance is to open their mouth.
Bubba Redneck on February 17, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I call BS/troll on this entire post.
Tell me where code pink/Berkeley has allowed the “other side” aka the USMC a voice to speak?
Simply put they have not.
F15Mech on February 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM
THEY decided to reject the federal government, and BUSH more particularly. THEY deserve to lose every last cent, and I do not feel bad if the Chez Panisse mentorship program does not go forward due to lack of funding.
2.1 million earmarked for denied funding is small potatoes compared to the real federal revenue these maoists should lose.
I wish the UC would have the balls to take over peoples’ park and assert its sovranty from the city of berzerkeley.
Go Bears!
petit bourgeois on February 18, 2008 at 2:41 AM
It will be fun to watch what would happen if the “big one” hit the bay area and Berzerkley in particular. Seeing as the armed forces are about the only entity that can undertake a rescue operation of that size (see the tsunami in Indonesia/Thailand for that one) what will all the stupid little hippies do? I am sure they would rather die of starvation/thirst or bleed to death then to take help from *GASP* a Marine.
I do think if the “big one” hit the bay area I will go and protest the US sending our servicemen and women there. No blood for Hippies!
Nahanni on February 18, 2008 at 3:58 AM
It will be New Orleans 2.0. People will be mugging and looting each other, there will be rapes and murders, and the massive amounts of homeless and stoners will accost anyone in nervous worry as the Berzerkleyites try to shut them out from their safehouses. After the quake Berzerkely will blame it on God being angry at Bush and demand the entire country give them unlimited federal relief funds to stop the illegal and immoral Iraq war.
Berkeley is the most worthless town in the United States. Anyone defending it because of UC Brekely: You’re part of the problem. If you really want to see Berkely go away, find another university. Berkeley without UC Berkeley is just another Brattleboro Vermont, a desolate, unimportant bastion of dependency and rage.
BKennedy on February 18, 2008 at 4:43 AM
Interestingly, both the Berkeley Chamber of Commerce and the Berkeley Convention & Visitors Bureau have prominent statements on the front pages of their web sites that say they do not support the City Council on the Marines issue.
Here is a new link that gives phone, fax, email and mail addresses for the entire Berkeley City Council:
Keep those cards and letters coming folks. Remember, they are counting on us to just fade away after a while. We can’t give up until they both apologize to the Marines and rescind the Code Pink parking space. Nothing less will do.
tballard on February 18, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Nahanni–
“No Blood for Hippies” is my new mantra!
q2600 on February 19, 2008 at 9:15 AM
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