Maybe becasue bloggers CARE about the facts when the MSM doesn’t have to really care.

SouthernGent on February 16, 2008 at 11:08 PM

Yes, you have to be willing to be corrected. The MSM has an agenda for most of their pieces.

According to google, one per four thousand six hundred and fifty people who spread it around.

If the information is out there, it hardly seems to matter. If the stats on the “self-correcting” nature of the blogosphere is that a lefty lie is debunked once for every 4650 times it’s told, while righty misattributions are debunked 90 times per single incidence, then I don’t see how conservatives would conclude that they’ve been liberated from the MSM’s leftwing information control by the internet.

Hiney Von Pewps on February 17, 2008 at 1:03 AM

86% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

- The Cat

Suffice it to say, i don’t now if we’ve entered into an era where the left no longer controls the message.

Hiney Von Pewps on February 16, 2008 at 11:08 PM

You need only look at the current Democrat presidential frontrunner to know the Left remains the dominate force in getting out the message. They also quickly squashed any opportunity for Thompson, Romney or Guliani to make a strong run as the nominee.

Trust me, THEY are still running the show. THEY are what Republicans should fear most.

If we keep hammering away we should end up with “The Truth is out there” instead of the “Truth is Out”. On the other hand we could eventually end up spending our time in places like Siberia or other such scenic spots.

spmat on February 17, 2008 at 10:29 AM

I would agree with that. We have too many examples of the MSM being corrected by the blogosphere lately and having to respond with corrections and in some cases people being fired after being proven to play loose with the facts.

Rathergate has caused some changes in the MSM as they now know that they can’t just make stuff up as easily as they used to. Although we still have a long way to go.

As for stories that develop in the blogosphere, yes there are some bogus things that pop up. But, using this site as an example, they are quickly corrected when vetted by the commentors. I understand that some sites are not as dilligent as AP, Michelle and Bryan at making sure they are accurate. But for the most part, sites that allow comments in an open and honest format police themselves very well.

Overall, it is a very healthy turn of events. And it is growing and destroying the MSM’s grip on information.

The speed at which fact-checking happens (indeed, the speed at which it can happen) is orders of magnitude higher in the age of Google and Web 2.0. You’re correct in pointing out that the signal-to-noise ratio is not really any better (certainly worse for someone that isn’t familiar with the landscape), but with the right filter, the signal is far more easily recovered.

Princeton folks making note that primaries suck no thanks to reforms from the 1970′s that enabled the media (no longer party chiefs) to coronate their chosen candidate for the public to embrace.

Honestly I wouldn’t have any idea what new scandal Kos or Huffpo have ‘uncovered’ in the last month; it would require me to visit the site, or have a place like hotair point it out as being something that needs to be called on

hmm.

It isn’t usually self correcting, but it is often others-correcting.
To find a story debunked or corrected, the reader still often has to seek out the correction at site other than the one originally giving the misinformation. That is only useful if the reader is looking for the correction.

To pretend the ‘blogosphere’ has any group qualities is folly.

but who debunked the ol’ “G–damned piece of Paper” rumor,

see-dubya on February 17, 2008 at 12:43 AM

According to google, one per four thousand six hundred and fifty people who spread it around.

If the information is out there, it hardly seems to matter. If the stats on the “self-correcting” nature of the blogosphere is that a lefty lie is debunked once for every 4650 times it’s told, while righty misattributions are debunked 90 times per single incidence, then I don’t see how conservatives would conclude that they’ve been liberated from the MSM’s leftwing information control by the internet.

You can’t stop them, there are too many. It would be just too hard to stop them all. If you use the immigration argument and apply it to the internet.

We have a website that does nothing but point out the liberal bias of and mistakes of the NY Times. Which I might add is a full time job in and of itself. The list goes on and on.

The blogosphere did. The truth about that quote is out there; it’s just too good for the left to check.

More fun?

If one performs a very generalized search string such as lincoln “fake quote”, one is immdiately presented with dozens of deunkings of this:

Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled, or hanged. — President Abraham Lincoln

…as uttered by Republican Rep. Don young (out of 1750 hits).

Indeed if we narrow the search to lincoln saboteurs hanged “fake quote”, you get 88 hits.

Contrastingly we can look at a fake Lincoln quote progressives use dependably:

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.”

…using the search string lincoln corporations enthroned “fake quote”, we end up with 10 hits.

including
1 false positive for the entire string,

1 false positive for “fake quote” in a page which asserts the fake quote,

2 hits from democrat forums asserting the second fake quote while linking triumphantly to debunkings of the first fake quote,

1 hit to a “rebunking” of the fake quote.

3 hits to liberal pages where the fake quote is debunked in the comments.

…and only one conservative blog actually debunking the fake “corporations have been enthroned” quote.

Updates are updating faster that ALLAHPUNDIT,or Bryan can
type,or should I say update!

So,any information on ABC,CBS,NBC,etc is already bird doo
doo paper for the cage,less than a nano second after the report comes in!

I should of thrown in the left leaning commie leftsphere,
like the dinosuar,to heck with the updates,especially if
the news is about the right,let it sit for awhile till it
serves their political purposes!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22goddamn+piece+of+paper%22+%22fake+quote%22