Two wrongs don’t make a right, chumley.

Montana on February 17, 2008 at 12:33 PM

But three lefts do!

[Kat] In the midst of many discussions about the messianic pull of Obama, I thought it was time to actually look at some of his proposed policies and, what is in many cases, half formed proposals that simply “hope” it……

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As much as I dislike McCain I am going to enthusiastically vote against Socialism.

If McCain wins, he is a lukewarm Republican and Conservative at best. He will spend time “reaching across the aisle”

Thank you very much GOP Establishment for your “line of succession” approach to nominees.

Hilts on February 17, 2008 at 9:15 PM

Why would I want to for any Republican when the party continues on they path they are currently on?

I get it now…

Don’t let a liberal take your guns away…Vote for Rudy and have a Republican from NY do it instead. (Another mayor of NY is breaking the law by trying to take my rights away in VA).

Don’t worry about the untraceable illegal’s living next door…vote for McCain and he will make sure no one is illegal by granting full citizenship to everyone.

Don’t worry about how you spend you money…If you want to donate to a candidate, you can (however certain restrictions apply).

Don’t worry about the liberals in power, McCain will be there to sell out your beliefs when he “crosses the aisle” as he is famous for.

Aside from the WOT McCain and I have nothing in common, neither does the GOP.

And yet I am still supposed to vote for the lesser of two evils.

The only reason we are at that point is that we have done that one to many times.

I hate McCain, but he’s what we’re left with. I can’t believe that people would actually stay home to make a point. If you think that it will be easier to overturn or stop anything from the dems than McCain, you’re an idiot. Did I want Thompson? Yes. Did I want Romney? Yes.

I’m starting to give up on the right-wing blogosphere. Too many idiots who would give up the future for the sake of their freaking “ideals”…

prolix on February 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM

I agree with everything you wrote. The vitriol against Giuliani on this website was awful at times. I supported Giuliani, Romney, then Thompson in that order. Now faced with the very real danger of a vapid Socialist named Barack Obama who has the media shilling for him we are in for it in NOvember.

This shapes up to be a bad year for Republicans and the country no matter what happens in the election. If McCain wins, he is a lukewarm Republican and Conservative at best. He will spend time “reaching across the aisle” to the likes of Harry Reid and Ted Kennedy and the GOP will lose more seats in the House and Senate just like the lukewarm conservatives George H. W. Bush and his son when they were President. If Hillary or Obama wins we will have a
Socialist President but the GOP will gain in midterm elections but the nation will suffer economically from the socialist policies and will also suffer diplomatically as we try to make nice to our enemies. Thank you very much GOP Establishment for your “line of succession” approach to nominees. Zbigniew Brezsinzski is Obama’s foreign policy adivsor and likely Secretary of State. Chew on that.

Tommygun on February 17, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Exactly

Someone else’s poor planning is not my emergency.

I am taking the time to plan for my retirement now, every pay period money leaves my pay check (before I see it) and get invested in a mixture of Stocks, 401k, Roth 401k, IRA and even SS.

Because I am the first to admit, that when it comes to money if I have it I will spend it, I also pay for a financial adviser to handle everything and adjust my lifestyle accordingly.

If I could give the FICA money to my adviser to invest, instead of SS, I would be all over that.

Does this mean Obama think’s I should not count on SS and invest elsewhere and force me to invest in other markets?

Tell you what I will buy into that plan once I am free to use the money deducted every pay period for FICA, and use it to pay my finicial advisor and invest it in a way I/advisor choose.

It certainly will not be going into SS.

I don’t know. I’m economically conservative, but realistically if people don’t save for retirement, the government is going to end up footing their bill. It may not be the world we want to live in, but this detail seems unlikely to change soon. I’d rather force people to save for themselves than pay for them later. Am I missing something in your objection to what Obama has to say here?

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thuja on February 16, 2008 at 8:07 PM

Yes, you are missing something. If people don’t save for themselves, they just need to keep working. It’s their fault, not “society’s”, period. After they can’t work, they can turn to family. If family won’t help (or isn’t an option after the Left destroys the family), they can go to private charities. If that doesn’t work for whatever reason, they can be packed away into a low-cost, locally-run county poorhouse so they aren’t in my way when I walk down the sidewalk. Stupidity should not be rewarded with public money.

And just for the record, no, I don’t know what it’s like to be poor, because I’ve always been willing to work for a living.

If you change the IRS “default settings,” does that trigger an audit?

Face it, Obama’s a freaking maniac. He either has no freaking clue about economics or he just plain doesn’t care about or doesn’t believe in consequences.

Too many people like that.

The problem, in my opinion, is that instead of requiring all workers to have IRA plans, Obama shifts the onus on to employers. I’m not sure why he does this, because it sounds like employers aren’t required to contribute anything at all to the plan, and it makes things harder when an employee leaves one job and goes to another. Instead, if you wanted to achieve the goal of wider retirement savings (a laudable goal, if not necessarily one for the government to solve), it would be simpler to require everyone to have an IRA and when they change jobs, they tell their employers how much to deduct pre-tax.

I guess, though, that would give too much power to the individual, especially in case if they screwed up their account – they would have no one to blame but themselves, and we can’t have that!

GLENN: Okay, this is a great sounding bill, it really is. The Global Poverty Act just passed. It was number 4 on the list of things to do today, on Valentine’s Day. My heart to you. It is sponsored by Barack Obama. Now, yesterday so you know, Barack Obama said, and I quote, it’s time to stop spending billions of dollars a week trying to put Iraq back together and start spending the money on putting America back together. Got it? He wants to put America back together. That’s why he proposed $210 billion yesterday to create jobs, $210 billion to create jobs. That, by the way, is a 2, a 1 followed by 10 zeroes. He wants $150 billion to create 5 million green collar jobs to do things for the environment. $150 billion, green collar jobs. Environmentally friendly energy sources will be found. It will be fantastic. He wants $60 billion to go to a national infrastructure reinvestment bank to rebuild highways, bridges, airports and other projects. He says he can create the — the Government will generate 2 million jobs. It sounds like work projects. My gosh, how great. It sounds just like the new deal. These two million jobs, many of them will be in construction, which has been hit by the housing crisis. So don’t worry. We’ll fix it as the Government.

So he’s proposing $210 billion yesterday and saying it’s time to stop spending billions of dollars trying to put Iraq back together and start spending the money on putting America together. At the same time he proposed the Global Poverty Act. It just today passed the Senate. This is great.

Senator Biden trying to rush the Global Poverty Act through his committee, got it done. It now, if it passes — it already has passed the House mainly because people didn’t read it. If it passes now in the Senate, it will commit the United States to spending .7% of our gross national product on foreign aid, which will amount to a phenomenal $845 billion over what we already spend on foreign aid. But here’s the great thing. It doesn’t commit it to — we’re not committing to ourselves. We’re committing to the United Nations. The United Nations will take the .7% of our GDP and — wait a minute. That kind of sounds like — a poverty act. That almost sounds like a global tax. A release from Obama’s Senate office says the U.S. joined more than 180 countries with the United Nations Millennium Summit and vowed to reduce global poverty by 2015. But we’re halfway there and it’s time the United States makes this a priority, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective in promoting the reduction of global poverty.

Now, the bill has defined the term millennium development goals as the goals set out in the declaration given by the United Nations. Just so you know, those Millennials goals not only care about poor starving children, there’s other ideas in there as well. For instance, the declaration commits nations to ban small arms and weapons, ratifying a series of treaties including the International Criminal Court treaty, the Kyoto protocol, the Convention on Biological Diversity. The what? The Convention on Biological Diversity? I don’t even know what that means. “We would be committed to the ratification of the convention on the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women.” Does that mean the United Nations will suddenly fight Islamic extremism with us! No. No, why would that — uh-uh. That’s just diversity. “Also we would ratify the convention on the rights of a child.”

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/5991/?ck=1

What? Won’t the government pay for all of the counseling my new family and my will need? And isn’t that what happens in an open society?

Morals, conviction, vision, and individual responsibility are what this nation needs, not a one-trick pony with no resume and who wants to be a modern day Robin Hood.

So be sure to stay home and don`t dare vote for McCain. Everything will be o.k. :)

ThePrez on February 16, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Two wrongs don’t make a right, chumley.

In what this humble pundit plans to introduce as an ongoing series, let me discuss a reason why I will not vote for an Obama (or, I guess, Clinton, too) or a “why not.”

This will serve as an ongoing effort of trying to convince myself that a vote …

flipflop on February 17, 2008 at 7:09 AM

Exactly. There is no “there” there. Empty.Suit.

Having the tax collectors fill out the tax collection form is insane. Thinking that they are doing so to “help” us is insane. The IRS does not exist to “help us”.

I do my taxes every year now with TurboTax which fills in everything automatically – just like the IRS would do. I then send the completed form to my tax attorney for review. He always finds enough to cover his fee and then some.

So Obama’s big idea is to have employees enrolled in a 401(k) plan by default instead of having to explicitly opt in.

Such creative, innovative leadership…no wonder the ladies are swooning during his speeches.

So small business owners who already have enough crap to deal with will be required to set up IRA’s for their employees who won’t do it themselves. That is BS. And it seems that this proposal would also mandate that an employer use a direct deposit payroll system. Why force someone who only has a few employees to do this?

Mark1971 on February 16, 2008 at 8:48 PM

There’s no such thing as a small business in Obamaworld: all employers are evil millionaires gorging themselves on the hard work of their enslaved minions — but hope is on the way — the loving government will right all wrongs in the workers’ paradise!

I wish I were kidding. I really do.

I suspect that would be anything beyond W-2 wages.

First: That pension plan is further proof that the communist democratic party has no belief in personal responsibility and has no faith that people are capable of socking away 10% of their weekly earning on their own.

Second: The IRS filling out tax forms? No problems there. /sarcasm.
Isn’t this the exact type of thing people have been grousing about with the ‘predatory’ mortgage lenders who would fill out forms for people who then conveniently decided not to read what was on there?

I have yet to read a perfect economic program ever, but this one is a special kind of crappy.

The thought of a permanent majority enthralled by the welfare state is just as worrisome to me as anyone else here.

The only comfort in a possible McCain administration is that this would be an unintended consequence of his previous policies being enacted. Which is why I may hold my nose but I’ll not shut my mouth.

With Obama or the rest of the far left I have no illusions of them turning around in 20 years and saying, “Ooops, didn’t see that one coming!”

Deety on February 17, 2008 at 2:16 AM

Well I have to go, but my last comment is this: if you statistically evaluate the likelihood of a horrible outcome given any reasonable assumptions, it’s extremely high. This is not apocalyptic, this is just reality. We got to this point while keeping hope alive for at least one good candidate, but we are where we are.