Breaking: Romney to endorse McCain; Update: Romney for VP? Update: Mitt to “release” delegates?
posted at 1:37 pm on February 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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3:30 p.m. in … Boston. Will Maverick be there? Stand by while I look for his schedule.
Look on the bright side, Mittheads. This way he gets to flip the bird to Huckabee before Huck drops out.
Update: McCain’s in Rhode Island and Vermont today so yeah, surely he’ll be detouring to Massachusetts.
Belated exit question: Would the chosen one really endorse Maverick?
Update: Halperin says Mitt will ask his delegates to vote for McCain at the convention. Assuming they do, that leave McCain with 1,113 delegates — 827 of his own plus Romney’s 286. Only 1,191 are needed to clinch.
Update: The only primary between now and Texas/Ohio is next Tuesday in Wisconsin, where 40 delegates are at stake. So unless Huck gets out, the formal clinch will have to wait until March 4.
Update: Memory lane.
Update: My Man Mitt says the Foxies are talking about Mitt as the favorite for VP now. Er, no.
Update: Can Mitt pledge his delegates to McCain or is he reduced to simply asking them to support him? Depends on whether they’re bound or not, which varies by state. Per NBC, most but not all of Mitt’s delegates do appear to be bound; if he says he’s “releasing” them to McCain, that means Maverick can bank them.
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Well, I don’t think is will happen, but if I can’t have Mitt as Pres, then Veep is better than nothing. Age is going to be an issue and if McCain’s health is an issue, then you want a strong VP. Back door to the Presidency?
gstrickler on February 14, 2008 at 4:47 PM
SECOND LOOK AT TAKING BACK THE HOUSE!
Contract Redux, anyone?
Kid from Brooklyn on February 14, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Gregor’s yelling. Who else?
I will “yell” this:
Mitt rocks!
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Absolutely. The focus on the Congressionals is as important as the focus on the Presidency.
Mitt is no fool, whatever his drawbacks as a potential GOP candidate for POTUS. He knows full well that no losing presidential candidate in postwar history has seen his party regain control of Congress.
The best way to bind Mac is to throw Pelosi and Reid from their pedestals; not for the Democrats to sweep to almost certain hegemony and implement policies that could take a generation to reverse. The stupidity of some of the defeatists is staggering
Pax americana on February 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM
I’m proud of Mitt, I missed the “endorsement” on TV..
Hopefully it will be on posted on here..
BTW, Rudy Rocks! :)
Go McCain!
Chakra Hammer on February 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM
In sum it was a gracious and smart move by Mitt.
First, it pre-empts any similar move by the Christian Candidate, and makes his continued presence in the race irrelevant.
Second, Mitt appeared confident, relaxed and very much in control at today’s Press Conf, and I thought as I watched him next to McCain: That would make a GREAT TICKET, no?
Third, it pulls the Republican party together so that we can get a leg up on beating whichever Liberal Senator the Democrats eventually decide to nominate.
Listen, I was against McCain HEARTILY during the primaries. But all this talk about sitting out the General in November to let Hildebeest or the Anointed One become POTUS for the next four years is CRAZY, man just Crazy.
The thought of Daily Kos, Keith Olberdork and Code Pink having their guy or gal in the White House is enough to make me want to puke. We have got to win the POTUS race and try to take back as many seats in Congress as we can.
Yelp all you want, and it sure aint the script I was counting on two months ago, but it sure beats the alternative.
So good for Mitt. Good for McCain. And a personal message to Christian Candidate: BEGONE, FOUL SPIRIT !!!
Always Right on February 14, 2008 at 4:59 PM
The conservative viewpoint according to whom? WWJD (what would Jesse do?)
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 4:59 PM
We should make Ron Paul VP. Really. He wouldn’t have the power to enforce his beliefs about the extension of US military power, but he could perpetually whisper in the President’s ear “That’s unconstitutional.” Hello smaller government!
kc8ukw on February 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Ha Ha!
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 5:01 PM
As it Stands now..
Go Rudy!
Go Mitt!
Go Fred!
Go John McCain!
——————-
Keep the faith my friend, still time add Huckabee to the list.
Chakra Hammer on February 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM
No, need to for the negativity.
Chakra Hammer on February 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I wish Romnee had been more sincere.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I’m afraid that’s wishful thinking. As for McCain selecting any of the past candidates for veep, why? They lost!
Lindsey Graham would be the best choice.
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Do you have a link to the video of the endorsement?
I missed it.
Chakra Hammer on February 14, 2008 at 5:28 PM
This means precisely doodly to me. I don’t care if Reagan were to get up out of his coffin, knock on my door, offer me flowers and ask me to vote for McCain.
Will.Not.Happen.
tickleddragon on February 14, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Chakra Hammer on February 14, 2008 at 5:28 PM
No. You didn’t miss much. Romeny is secretly working on 2012 with the inbreds from CPAC anyway, so this was just for show.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 14, 2008 at 5:33 PM
If McCain picks Romney as VP, I will be stunned (although delighted). No way Evangelicals will vote for these two as a ticket. The Southern primaries proved this over and over. I ain’t sayin’ it right, just sayin’!
SouthernGent on February 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Here it comes…I said months ago, Mitt is a good candidate for VP, or cabinet position. That would give him the skills, and give him a platform to show his “conservative” beliefs. He would mature as a politician.
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Not strong enough to win the Pres. but a great VP, one that could unite the party and bring some sense to McCain.
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Besides, it would be fun to here Hannity, Coulter and the rest squirm.
P.S.: Mitt you could have save $100 mil if you would have just listened to me.
right2bright on February 14, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Fixed it
Gregor on February 14, 2008 at 5:43 PM
I do not want Mitt to be his running mate. I’ll think a lot less of him if he does that. IMO McCain should get one of the following four persons, in that order: Chuck Norris, Lindsay Graham, Juan Hernandez or Joe Lieberman. No true Republican should lower himself to run for VP on that ticket.
SIJ6141 on February 14, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Putting a word before another word in a sentence does not indicate a higher importance you scumbag dumba$$. I’m sure you know that, which makes you a LYING scumbag dumba$$.
Gregor on February 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Baloney.
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Mitt won’t take VP. It would be a waste. He’d just be cooling his heels for 4 years. He could make a billion dollars in that time.
NTWR on February 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Lindsey Graham is a hard core conservative. But I won’t tell anyone if you don’t.
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM
QUESTION: Would you have voted for Mitt Romney knowing he would endorse McCain? If you’re a Romney delegate, are you sitting there thinking, hmmmm, I’m not voting for this guy? Just to assume he gets the delegates is an unwise assumption!
Dhornertx on February 14, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Wow. You really are a dumba$$, aren’t you?
This is EXACTLY the sort of thing we need to be doing more of. Of course, if McCain is elected … whe’ll see no such disagreements because Johnny will be busy running across the aisle and selling out.
What part of this don’t you understand? Are you not paying attention?
For those of you who ARE planning on “holding your noses”… take note of BuyDanish’s prediction. Don’t expect to see too many Republicans disagreeing with liberal causes.
Gregor on February 14, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Go away cockroach. You’re one of the trolls responsible for ruining this blog as it is. You’re the last person in the world to be lecturing others.
Gregor on February 14, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Gregor is the new poster boy for gun control. Dude, you need to get a grip.
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 5:56 PM
It’s just too bad it took you this long to figure out what I said an hour ago. Must be all that steam in your eyes.
As for whether the order one puts one words in matters, that is a matter of opinion and you are free to disagree. I noticed it and think it says something about your priorities.
In any case, I think you are on very shaky ground when you question the sanity of others.
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 5:57 PM
QUESTION: Would you have voted for Mitt Romney knowing he would endorse McCain?
Yes. I voted FOR Romney not against McCain.
McCain was the main reason I remained registered as NOP (No Official Party) here in AZ. Romney finally got me to register as a Republican.
Deety on February 14, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Myamphibian: Do you really think so ? Anybody that supported the amnesty deal last year cannot be. That is my opinion.
SIJ6141 on February 14, 2008 at 5:59 PM
I quoted a paragraph which referred to the Dems holding up legislation that protects this nation from our enemies while devoting their efforts to charging Harriet Miers with contempt and Tom Lantos’ death to screw around with rules.
That’s what we can expect a whole lot more of if we follow your advice.
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Many of us are disappointed that our candidate of choice is not the nominee. I agree McCain is objectionable to many of us. But he is INFINITELY better than either Hillary or Obama.
I appreciate the “Carter makes a Reagan” line of thought, BUT, it was Carter that created the ability for the ayatollha to come back, it was carter who made us look so weak that the flames of radical jihad burned a little brighter, and it was Clinton doing nothing when our servicemen were dragged through the streets of Mogadishu to which Bin Laden stated we were a paper tiger and 9/11 was born.
The DAMAGE to our country will be devastating to our generation, and our children’s generation, and our grandchildren’s generation.
Bush or McCain would VETO timelines for troop withdrawals, allowing FISA to expire, repeal of the patriot act, etc…whereas Hillary or Obama will be all too happy to sign.
Please don’t sit this one out, or vote for a “Carter.” Coulter is WRONG this time (and I really like her, this is one of the few disagreements I have with her…)
McCain will stem the tide of socialism as much as he is able, whereas Hillary and Obama EMBRACE socialism. Freedom is too fragile to play these games.
This is a turning point in American history. Which way are we going to go? And how will you feel about yourself if you don’t do everything in your power to stop it 50 years from now when you’re dying because you couldn’t get into the hospital to treat a minor ailment which untreated will kill you? These are serious times.
JustTruth101 on February 14, 2008 at 6:01 PM
I wonder which Romenely son will run for pres. Someone has to keep the family tradition of getting housed alive.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 14, 2008 at 6:09 PM
If you want to say he is not conservative based on that single issue, that is your right. I would just ask that you research both the immigration reform bill and Lindsey’s record, not just go with what you see here. There are unbiased resources for both. The “amnesty” bill was about securing the border for conservative republicans like Graham, McCain and Bush. That goofy visa was a stupid Kennedy idea and it deserved to go down in flames. But what we have now is what I would call amnesty. The laws we have obviously are not enough, and at some point, we are going to have to take responsibility for our part in this mess. I appreciate your honesty, immigration is a major sticking point for many and I honestly think it’s unfair and the spin is too destructive.
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Romney has only 143 delegates that are bound to him, plus eight people who were elected as national delegates at the Wyoming County Conventions did so having announced their support for him. If Romney releases them, they’re free to vote for whomever they will. Because of the way some states elect delegates, it may be that delegates bound to Romney weren’t actually his supporters and won’t feel obliged to heed his endorsement.
Michael Bates on February 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM
Exactly. I will never vote for ShAmnesty McCain the Democrats buddy.
Buzzy on February 14, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Except that it’s NOT what you said an hour ago. You conveniently left out the fact that I included the word “country” in my comment.
In any case, I think you are on very shaky ground when you question the sanity of others.
F*ck off and d!e scumnut. If you haven’t realized it by now … I’m trying my best to get banned, and I’ve been trying for over a week now.
I’ve been registered at HotAir since it’s beginning and ever since Allah opened up registration a few months ago HotAir has become totally useless, except to the trolls. Each thread is filled with nothing but comments from obvious agent provocateurs and Allah is not willing to do anything about it. It’s impossible to enjoy discussing matters of such importance to our country with the likes of these people. We sit here and argue with people who are paid sock-puppets for liberal candidates such as McCain who repeatedly post comment after comment filled with pre-formatted campaign propaganda.
Those who have been here since the beginning know that I’m passionate about this country and I’m sure they’ve noticed I’ve become progressively frustrated at what appears to be a losing cause. I’m tired of sitting around typing messages while this country gets beaten down and ruined by socialists, open borders/one-world government supporters, and other selfish blind sheep who don’t seem to see what’s going on.
You yourself have spent the last year defending open borders and amnesty and I happen to believe you’re about as conservative as the stain on Monica’s dress.
I’m wasting far too much time responding to absolute pathetic losers such as yourself and yet I feel the COUNTRY is too important NOT to, so the only way I can gain my life back and prevent myself from spending my time answering lies and troll comments in here, or responding to Allah’s continuous mocking of Christians is to get him to boot me.
Apparently, even my calling him a moron yesterday did not do the trick, but then again … maybe it’s because he had just got done calling a good portion of his own readers morons. So I’ll continue to spout what I truly feel about those such as yourself until he feels it’s unavoidable.
The rest of you can continue to attempt to have conversations with those such as THE CHOSEN ONE, BuyDanish, Tommylotto, or bnelson, various Ron Paulbots, and BuyDanish even while knowing that they have absolutely no intention of having an honest conversation. They are here for a purpose and they will lie, manipulate, and fabricate to support their agenda.
Have fun, and good luck with the GOP under McCain. You get what you paid for.
Meanwhile, I’ll be hoping John McCain takes a tour of the border on an ATV.
We need more conservatives with balls who are willing to do more than write letters and send faxes. We need conservatives who are not going to allow a bunch of faggot (go ahead and ban me) sissies out in Berkeley to block them from entering a Marine building without some serious blow back. We need conservatives who are not going to stand on the sidewalk as socialist traitor anti-Americans BURN AMERICAN FLAGS right in front of them. We need more Jim Brossards and we need more John Smeatons “settin’ about’em.
We need far less week-kneed, ball-less, lazy, cowards.
Gregor on February 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Gregor on February 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Let’s shorten up those comments please, some of us are getting sleepy reading through all this circular logic.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 14, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Heh. He probably already knows it’s too dangerous for him. I’m sure he’s well aware of the sabotage the invaders have been working on.
NTWR on February 14, 2008 at 7:00 PM
I said you literally put GOP before Country. Where did I say you left the word Country out?
Overlooking the vulgar part, I have done nothing of the sort! What the hell are you talking about?
Nevermind. It’s idiotic on my part to expect a rational answer from you.
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 7:02 PM
JustTruth101 on February 14, 2008 at 6:01 PM
The second time you wrote sometrhing today that I strongly agree with you ! Thanks, I hate McCain but will gladly have him as president for the next four years.\
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 6:13
I am not a one issue candidate but just seeing his reaction after the blogs killed the amnesty issue made me a Graham hater for the rest of my life.
SIJ6141 on February 14, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Maybe if you would shorten your comments like TCO suggested, someone with the power to ban you might actually read them and do it. But then again, it is pretty funny how you spend energy trying to get ejected from a blog. Are you really that inept?
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 7:19 PM
NO GRAHAMNESTY for veep. Please, I’ve come to accept voting for McCain and being able to fervently believe that it would be the only sane thing to do against the Obamassiah. But putting Grahamnesty on the ticket? ouch, please, no
funky chicken on February 14, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Gregor on February 14, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Good rant. Keep them coming !
SIJ6141 on February 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Gregor is, for the most part, rational and honest. Buy Danish insulted him by, essentially, questioning his patriotism (albeit in a subtle way). I’m not at all surprised he’s angry as a result.
The fact is that he’s right. McCain is a joke of a candidate and it would be foolish for conservative-first folks like him and myself to support the guy. The GOP should be trying to appeal to us, but by nominating McCain all they are going to do is appeal to conservative Democrats.
And that is not a winning strategy against a guy like Obama.
HebrewToYou on February 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM
One thing about Gregor is he will always give his opinion of how the cow ate the cabbage. If he leaves I’ll miss ducking the lead around here.
No big surprise, to me anyway, that Mitt would throw down with Johnny Mac. A ‘club’ member supports the club. I can’t foul him for that. That said….Hell’s getting hot and the snowball is melting quick. My wife and I decided today to bite the bullet and vote for Hillary in the primary here in Texas. I don’t believe we can beat Obama, but we at least have a chance against the pantsuit.
Limerick on February 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Lindsey Graham is a great conservative! The democrats are so bent on wide open borders, yet some conservatives just refuse to even discuss it rationally and immediately go into spin mode. I’m thankful we have strong Republicans on our side working to find a solution to this complex problem. The majority of Americans, including myself, are adamant about securing our border. But realistically, some will be staying. Or we can just demogogue the issue and everyone that works to fix it, leaving the border wide open like it is now.
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Well said, Limerick.
Romney is a GOP-First kinda guy. There isn’t anything wrong with that, of course. But the party cannot expect the majority of Conservative-First folks to do the same. Some folks, such as myself, wont compromise our principles to support a guy who just happens to be nominated by the GOP.
HebrewToYou on February 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Not if you stop offering them free social services. Not if you punish employers for hiring illegals. Not if you deport any illegal alien who comes into contact with law enforcement.
These things SHOULD have been done years ago. Anything less than this is, frankly, unacceptable. Attrition through Enforcement is key — and it will result in Illegal Immigrants leaving this country. The only ones who stay will be SOoL.
HebrewToYou on February 14, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Mitt has sealed his own political fate. He’s joined McCain, “W” and the rest of the GOP Hierarchy in “dis’ing” the base. The votes that Mitt and Huck garnered were conservative votes. The moderates went for McCain. Huck deserved those delegates.
Romney has either blundered here or he was, himself, a flip flopping moderate that never changed his spots. I suspect the latter. Darvin Dowdy.
Darvin Dowdy on February 14, 2008 at 8:02 PM
I think you’re taking yourself a little too seriously. Politics is about compromise. If you think voting for McCain/Graham will somehow make you less principled, you really should just forget about voting and politics altogether. Unless this is your first election, have you ever not had to hold your nose and vote for a lesser (at least in your own mind) evil?
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 8:05 PM
You know, the real movement on immigration is coming from a few states like Arizona and Oklahoma, where enforcement is actually working to get illegals to self-deport or move to other, less strict states or Canada even.
It’s federalism in action…when the federal courts don’t strike down the laws supported by the voters of enforcement supporting states.
I still want the damn fence built.
funky chicken on February 14, 2008 at 8:06 PM
What rock have you been hiding under? The base is who nominated McCain. Try this. Try looking at each issue you disagree with McCain over from his perspective. I’m not saying you have to agree in the end, but if you would just ignore your own bias for a few minutes, you may at least see that his position is not a godawful as it once appeared. I have always tried to look at both sides of the issue, and even though I usually stick with my initial instinct, at least I know what i’m up against. It’s one of my better qualities and has served me well.
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Oh please. I questioned his priorities, not his patriotism.
There are a lot of people who think in terms of the “GOP” or “The Party” as if that’s the most important thing, and lose sight of what’s best for the country.
What exactly is your strategy to defeat him? I really want to hear this!
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 8:24 PM
gregor, i agree with your concern about trolls ruining hot air…the trolls are taking a disproportionate amount of time and attention from those who value rational, logical discourse, even and especially when disagreeing and thrashing through the issues.
JustTruth101 on February 14, 2008 at 8:36 PM
ie, disagreement is good but only when rational
JustTruth101 on February 14, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Buy Danish, you make sure lots of people hear about this
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272618845.shtml
and about Obama’s “Patriot Company” act as well. He is not for American freedom, or American values. I think if that message can get out to people past the MSM filter, he could lose.
And you get somebody for veep that is at least moderate on immigration. Graham may have some redeeming qualities, but I can’t see past his immigration tantrum right now.
Oh, and if McCain really wants to show that he’s not totally sold on amnesty before enforcement, he needs to lean HARD on Chertoff and the rest of the administration to get the fence, that is the law of the land, built.
funky chicken on February 14, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Thankfully I’m not a politician. I can vote any way I choose for any reason I choose. I don’t have party loyalty when the party is disloyal to its own principles. I don’t have to compromise my principles and vote for a guy I despise. You can go ahead and vote for McCain, but don’t expect principled conservatives to do so.
You can call me stubborn, obtuse, naive, etc… but in the end I just know what I want in a GOP nominee and McCain is nowhere near it.
Nominate someone else. As that is now impossible, so are the chances of defeating him. The GOP shot itself in the foot and I’m not going to be paying for the hospital bill.
HebrewToYou on February 14, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Still waiting for that winning strategy to beat Obama!
So far Funky Chicken has done more than you in that regard.
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Still waiting for that winning strategy to beat Obama!
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 9:08 PM
I got it. Run a War Hero against him who has a record of working across the isle.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 14, 2008 at 9:23 PM
You seem like a sensible person, may I offer a hypothetical? Say there is a candidate that you have the opportunity to vote for. He has a flawless record and tons of experience. On every single issue he is 100 percent conservative. But this candidate happens to be unapologetically racist. Assuming you are not racist yourself, Would your principles allow you to hold your nose and vote for this person anyway?
myamphibian on February 14, 2008 at 9:33 PM
The numbers add up to John McCain
By Gary Bauer
February 12, 2008
In the wake of John McCain’s Tsunami Tuesday victories and Mitt Romney’s consequent withdrawal from the presidential sweepstakes, a reality has emerged that conservatives must accept: John McCain will be the Republican Party’s nominee.
But for more than a few conservatives, this reality seems too bitter to abide. Some have suggested that they would sooner sit out the general election, or vote for an nonviable third-party candidate, than vote for Arizona’s senior senator. Other key conservatives have threatened to become “suicide voters” and pull the lever for Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in order to send a message to the Republican Party.
As a conservative Republican, I respect those who seek ideological purity from the man who would lead our party. But it is also as a conservative Republican that I respectfully ask conservatives to consider these crucial numbers before they abandon Mr. McCain.
http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080212/EDITORIAL/523327391/0/FRONTPAGE
Bill Bennett worked for Reagan, and isn’t exactly a liberal guy:
Conservative Sense & Sensibility
The Right’s choices right now.
By William J. Bennett & Seth Leibsohn
Today, many in the Republican party and the conservative movement are saying some strange things about the prospect of our very likely nominee, Senator John McCain, and his ascent to the GOP nomination. Many think he will destroy the conservative movement if not the Republican party, and many have even said they simply will not vote for him in a general election if he heads the GOP ticket. Moreover, others have even said they would consider voting for Senator Hillary Clinton or that there is simply no difference between Senators Clinton and Barack Obama on the one hand, and Senator John McCain on the other. Some who have said the foregoing are our dear and close friends, allies, and callers.
This sense and sensibility is simply wrong.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YmI2YjE1Y2QxODI1ZGI1ZGNhNmQwOThlNWVlMmNlMTc=
funky chicken on February 14, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Very good! (The war hero part anyway). Unfortunately, HebrewToYou says he won’t vote for McCain. That being the case, I’m waiting to hear his plan of how we beat Obama by not voting for MAC.
Thanks for the depressing link to Barack’s U.N. enabled plan to bankrupt us:-) I don’t know for sure, but I’m betting that Bush will veto Barry’s horrible legislation. Here’s why:
Bush Says Paternalism Over in U.S. Aid
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Get a grip, for god’s sake. This is a blog.
Priscilla on February 14, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I missed this ^^^wisdom. Great plan! Obama will be very pleased to hear it.
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 10:11 PM
I call ‘em like I see ‘em. This election is lost. Cling to lost hopes if you like. I’m going to find a new political party to get involved with.
No. I refuse to tolerate such behavior. I could never vote for such a candidate. Such is why I think so poorly of Huckabee.
HebrewToYou on February 14, 2008 at 10:36 PM
I’m a woman. I guess I’ll cop to ball-less LOL.
I sure hope that Bush vetoes Barry’s POS bill. g’night
funky chicken on February 14, 2008 at 10:38 PM
???
So Romney is so much less selfish than Thompson because he… dropped out of the race and Thompson didn’t?
or because he endorsed McCain and Thompson didn’t?
Care to clarify?
theregoestheneighborhood on February 14, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I call a foul. You have yet to provide your strategy to beat Obama. I only mention it because you clearly implied you had one and we didn’t.
Sleep well. The more I think about it, the more certain I am that he will veto it. He wants to lay out clear differences between us and Obama and a dramatic veto is a great way to do that.
Buy Danish on February 14, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Probably a lot more important. We won’t have much to brag about for president, whether McCain, Obama, or Hillary gets elected. But if knowing the presidential race will be disappointing makes us focus on the congressional races and elect some decent ones, we might come out ahead over all.
theregoestheneighborhood on February 14, 2008 at 10:48 PM
To be fair, BD, HebToYou’s 7:44 comment doesn’t “clearly impl[y]” that s/he has a strategy to beat Obama, just that the current strategy of running McCain is (in HTY’s opinion) a poor and/or losing one.
And since I stuck my nose in this dialogue… as for a strategy that might actually win against Obama: Help Hillary get the Dem nomination (which she likely will; she is the machine-candidate, after all).
Clinton is exponentially more vulnerable in the national election than is Obama, and far more likely to incite those in the Republican base whose loathing of the Clintons exceeds their strong distaste for McCain to come out and vote in November.
Harpazo on February 14, 2008 at 10:55 PM
There. Is. No. Strategy. McCain cannot beat Obama and Hillary is in trouble. She just lost another super delegate: John Lewis. The GOP has sealed its own fate. That should be quite clear.
HebrewToYou on February 14, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Hmmm. I see some little clumps are sticking together in the litter box. Nice ‘n cozy in there, McClumps?
RushBaby on February 14, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Oh come on, scoffer! McCain’s the best the Republican Party has on the War on Terror!
Exhibit A: He defended the Marines against Code Pink in Berkeley
Exhibit B: He pointed out to the country that Barack Obama voted against National Security during the FISA debacle.
See? See???? SEE!?!?!
RushBaby on February 14, 2008 at 11:39 PM
You’ve opened my eyes!
HebrewToYou on February 14, 2008 at 11:44 PM
GOOD! Now SHUT UP and VOTE FOR MCCAIN. If you don’t, you’re anti-American, Anti-GOP (careful to put country first), Anti-Veteran, and Anti-puppy!
RushBaby on February 14, 2008 at 11:47 PM
ROFL. I hope Gregor’s paying attention. Buy Danish’s strict sentence structure is now the law of the land.
HebrewToYou on February 14, 2008 at 11:49 PM
She’s not the only reader with a red pen, but she’s among the strictest. Heart of a lion, tongue of a mother-in-law.
RushBaby on February 14, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I agree that Hillary is our best hope but I disagree that HTY did not imply that he had a strategy to beat Obama here:
Since electing McCain is not a winning strategy in his estimation, I am left to infer that he has a better one.
Going back and rewriting history a year ago doesn’t count.
Buy Danish on February 15, 2008 at 12:00 AM
My guess on Mr True Blue Huckabee will enjoy his campaign proceeds this week as he travels the Caribean/Virgin Islands for a final official politicical vacation before he throws in the towel and can’t claim it as campaign work any longer. Boy I sure miss Mitt… I guess Amercia really prefers scary choices – there is no one out there that makes any sense. Trying to vote for the lessor of 3 evils is going to be a real challenge this time around.
wubu on February 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM
May I help? Follow your conscience concerning leftist candidates.
Bound to be some qualified Republicans down-ticket who will will earn your positive vote.
RushBaby on February 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Gregor,
Is that your website that you have linked your handle to?
The reason I’m asking is I’m open to ideas.
Click on my handle and it’ll take you to my blog. Leave me a comment somewhere to get the ball rolling.
Thanks
P.S. Maybe Hillary sneaked everybody’s balls out in the dark of night?
Mcguyver on February 15, 2008 at 12:18 AM
May I help? Follow your conscience concerning leftist candidates. RushBaby on February 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM
At this point there is not much difference between in candidates given… I am waiting for an epithany
wubu on February 15, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Assuming you’re on the Right, due to your membership at Hot Air…Do you happen to listen to radio/podcasts? Rush, Hannity and Ingraham, are leaders for the Conservatives. Hewitt, Prager and Gallagher are Republican Party Unity advocates. Perhaps select one or two from each, both sides are compelling and persuasive. Neither will command you what to think, but you will find that your true thoughts are reflected on one side or the other.
RushBaby on February 15, 2008 at 1:09 AM
Just one more recommendation, and this is probably my best one. Listen to Mark Levin.
RushBaby on February 15, 2008 at 1:13 AM
No need for that, we do need everyone, even people that can’t spell Mitt’s last name correctly. ;)
Chakra Hammer on February 15, 2008 at 2:58 AM
Michael Medved, Dennis Prager, Rusty Humphries, Larry Elder, Dennis Miller
Good enough. >:}
Chakra Hammer on February 15, 2008 at 3:08 AM
Oh really?
Who anointed them, to speak for me?
Chakra Hammer on February 15, 2008 at 3:11 AM
You know this defeatist “we’ll lose in the general anyway” is about as transparent and weak an argument by the all-or-nothing purists as I could imagine. That plus the “my favorite talk show host attacks him” is about all I’m hearing now from the McCain haters.
First of all, Obama is not a slam-dunk in the general. There are a lot of independent voters who like Obama AND McCain, but think that Obama is just not ready for his close-up yet. Don’t get me wrong, Obama will be tough, but I don’t think he’s inevitable by any stretch.
Secondly, regardless of what Rush and Sean and Levin say – and I listen to them all – at this point, they are trying to hold the conservative base together, not trying to destroy McCain, because it’s too late for that. Rush has already stated what appears to be his position on the general, which is that McCain is who he is, and he should not try and present himself as anything but a centrist with some conservative positions.
If McCain is smart enough to pick someone like Pawlenty as his running mate, the talk show guys will feel validated that they have made a difference and they’ll start talking him up.
Priscilla on February 15, 2008 at 8:08 AM
There’s no anointing going on, but the fact is that they have the largest audience in the talk radio marketplace of ideas. You are free to think for yourself and obviously you can change the channel if you don’t find their shows compelling.
It is interesting that none of the three have embraced Huckabee’s brand of “conservatism”.
Buy Danish on February 15, 2008 at 8:28 AM
Gregor, you are pathetic. I too have been around here for a while and you never once engaged me rationally. You have disagreed with me and ridiculed me because I (shock of shocks) do not agree with you on every issue. You are bemoaning the demise of Hot Air, because it is no longer the comfortable echo chamber where you and other Fredheads can congratulate yourselves for being true conservatives — as if you had any idea what that means. You are a radical fringe of this country. You are the right’s version of Code Pink, or maybe even worse, because more of Americans tends to agree with Code Pink’s objectives than with yours.
As a conservative, I assume you agree with a market economy. The market corrects itself and gives the consumers what they want. If the market wants silly teen sex comedies, Hollywood will crank them out by the dozen. If the market wants bloody slasher films, we will get those instead. Think of two party politics the same way. There is a continuum from right to left:
__________________________|____________________________
DEM | GOP
The line in the middle is constantly shifting and the party that represents the wants and needs of this country gets elected. If the GOP moves right it looses. If the country moves left and the GOP stays the same it looses. The GOP is not the conservative party. It is the right of center party that only cares about staying in power. If it has to tack left to keep up with the changing demographics of the country, it will in a heartbeat and not shed a tear for loosing you.
You have to decide whether you are a member of the right of center party or whether you are a code-pink-like radical fringe that is so out of step it has no impact on the direction of this country. Are you going to protest Pelosi for not stopping the war? Are you going to be a haughty Frenchman boycotting American movies because they are crude and anti-intellectual? Are you going to marginalize yourself?
tommylotto on February 15, 2008 at 8:58 AM
I knew there was something I didn’t like about that man.
Ernest on February 15, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Thanks tommylotto.
Now, for those of us that aren’t centrist-liberal Republicans, we’ll just quietly take our party back as you continue your appeasement to the left at any cost.
BKennedy on February 15, 2008 at 9:33 AM
BKennedy on February 15, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Us moderates have the party by the balls now and we’re not giving it back.
THE CHOSEN ONE on February 15, 2008 at 9:46 AM
I’m all for putting the conservatism back in Republican, but how do you plan to do this exactly?
I don’t see how handing the country over to Obama, who is the poster boy for the Left, accomplishes this goal.
Sounds like a crazy plan to me, but I’ll all ears.
Buy Danish on February 15, 2008 at 9:55 AM
By re-registering as Independents.
By not donating money to the GOP or McCain.
By not voting for John McCain.
That ought to do it. The GOP will realize the impact of abandoning conservatism quite quickly after November.
HebrewToYou on February 15, 2008 at 10:13 AM
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