Nice site. Check out this one sometime……

And I would also ban the word dude from his vernaular. Remember who coined that phrase, Spicoli (sp?), played by non other than Sean Penn. That’s enough reason there to arrest anyone that uses the term.

rayvet on February 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM

Dude. You just made 90% of HA readership wanted criminals.

But good luck finding that pic of AP for the Wanted Posters.

Send this cop to Berkeley.

Coronagold on February 13, 2008 at 6:30 AM

LOL.

Liberals drive another person crazy.

Sweet.

You “police brutality” supporters have a lot to answer for.

Please atone by dying.

p.s. ever occur to you morons that a guy with 17 years on the force and still an “officer” must not be carrying a full clip, at least upstairs?

But I’m going with Uncle Olaf. If you don’t think that cop is out-of-control you got real problems.

You may have been roughed up in Basic, but you signed up, didn’t you. Too bad you don’t understand the difference between being an adult volunteer in the military and a 14-year-old civilian.

It is not a police officer’s job to scream at a kid and throw him to the ground — and THEN not charge him with anything. That’s a clear abuse of authority.

It’s too bad you lack the neurons and ganglia to “get it”. It’s gotta SUCK being microcephalic.

As for complaining about swearing: Jeez, you ARE a pussy, aren’t you.

But I’m sad to learn about out-of-contol MPs at LeJeune. do you have a citation for that?

First, even though the kid might have had a problem showing a tad of respect to the law, Chief Wiggam here had no intention of just shutting his own yap and ENFORCING the law by writing a citation, since a citation book is nowhere to be seen, instead, he approaches the kids with a weapon in his hand (Yes, that black stick on his keys is a weapon) and seems fully intent on proving he’s more of a man than the 14y/o’s….300lbs vs 86lbs soaking wet don’t lie!

I can’t help but wonder how many old ladies got mugged a few blocks over in the time it took him to whip out his peen and vent his problems, or how many crack sales happened downtown while Officer Jellyfilled here was trolling for kids to harrass.

Oh, and I also wonder if the kid will ever get his skateboard back with a side of crow as an apology?

Nahh..

Love the last sentence though.. “I better not find a video up on….” *snip*

As all the “dude” kids would say, this cop got pwned.

Rule two, kids are going to give you lip and you’ll never win if you play their game. The answer to “I didn’t know” is, “Well now you do, now move along.” Then stay till their gone.

I should also say that I never saw an MP behave in anything other than a professional manner. Not once. I hope you continue that tradition.

Strange, my experience is the EXACT opposite. Cmp Lejeune MP’s had gotten so bad at one point the provost marshall and the base commander took away their authority to write traffic citations.

In your position of authority you don’t use physical force simply because you are dissed, or over a trivial offense.

You don’t confiscate private property on a whim. Your assumption about Baltimore’s skateboarding ordinance may be well-grounded, but nothing here (or in comments at Youtube and elsewhere) indicate that a citation was issued.

Ranting and humiliation, plus physical assault, are not useful means to teach lessons or build character.

I grew up on airbases in the states. It was another time and place, but IIRC military discipline meant that parents had to instill respect in authority in their kids; an officer’s career could be ruined if his kid had multiple run-ins with the law. If that’s not happening today, that’s a real problem. But humiliation isn’t a solution, and ranting doesn’t instill respect.

Finally, you say “I silence an insubordinate teenager who defiantly disrespects me in the execution of my duties and all other attempts have failed and their parent cannot be reached.”

That’s phrased a bit vaguely. Seems to me that if the kid **interferes** with the execution of your duties, you can arrest him. But simple sass? You walk a fine line if there’s no underlying LEGAL (as opposed to) SOCIAL offense. Disrespecting authority isn’t itself a crime.

I should also say that I never saw an MP behave in anything other than a professional manner. Not once. I hope you continue that tradition.

Civilian police? That’s another story.

If this incident wasn’t followed by an arrest, this is an abuse of authority, plain and simple.

If that’s they way YOU behave with your kids, you’ll be cranking out another Charles Manson.

Just what was the great offense here, one that required an assault and a spittle-flying rant? Skateboarding where it’s not allowed? Saying “dude”? Having earbuds in his ears?

And no bullshite about an assault not being a beating, please. Let’s YOU be thrown to the ground by a guy twice your size, and see what YOU think.

The lesson learned is that cops can be crazed *ssholes. Respect? Isn’t respect something that’s EARNED? And since this is Baltimore, it is very widely known that the police force is hopelessly rude, inept and corrupt.

As for the problems cop face. Puhleeze!!! No one forced this man to become a policeman and remain one for 17 years. If he can’t behave professionally, he should quit. Or be forced out.

As for me crawling out of my basement….heh.

You are now free to roam around your cubicle.

Black Adam, There was no talk of paying fines on the video, so where’s your evidence that anyone was issued a citation.

As for confiscation until a fine is paid: where’s your evidence that personal property can be cavalierly seized for a civil offense? If Baltimore has a pertinent statute I’d like to see it.

But more important: I question your need to “humiliate”. That’s not what police are for. You make an arrest, and AFTER/IF the perp is found guilty in COURT, he gets punished. What if you humiliate an innocent person? You sound like you don’t give a rat’s patootie.

If “humiliation” is your MO you shouldn’t be wearing a badge, let alone the uniform of the armed forces; you’re not much better than the skateboard cop.

Also, I have to wonder what post you serve on where shop-lifting and drug-dealing are regular occurrences. I’ve lived on post, and I know military families understand that their rank won’t protect them if their kids screw up.

You say parents “hate” police. Well, if parents are unfairly treated to humiliation and assault by police officers, you think they might have a reason?

btw: I’ve never been abused by any police officer. But I’ve seen a number of policemen behave like *ssholes, so I am wary of them. Videos like these only reinforce my feelings. I image they have the same effect on a lot of other people.

fulldroolcup on February 13, 2008 at 2:28 PM

For sake of brevity, I assumed the city had an ordinance against skateboarding where fines (by ticketing) was assessed. Calm down.

Furthermore, my ultimate goal is justice being served. Get off your ACLU high horse. I have dealt with punks on several occasions that attempt to undermine or disrupt your attempts at restoring order. They get kicks out of it. If a kid does this (and you are detaining him) and starts creating a scene, you silence him without physical restraint.

Again, calm down. In my profession, there are several other careers in the USAF that hate the police because they simply do. If you aren’t in the military, you won’t understand.

I served in Germany. Yes, the kids were selling drugs. It’s more common than you think.

I care a great deal about kids and the United States Air Force. Please don’t misunderstand what I mean. I silence an insubordinate teenager who defiantly disrespects me in the execution of my duties and all other attempts have failed and their parent cannot be reached.

That’s why your boss is free to physically and verbally abuse you, right?

Really motivates you, doesn’t it!

That’s why so many offices have motivational posters on their walls saying:

“The beatings will continue until morale improves”.

As for confiscation until a fine is paid: where’s your evidence that personal property can be cavalierly seized for a civil offense? If Baltimore has a pertinent statute I’d like to see it.

But more important: I question your need to “humiliate”. That’s not what police are for. You make an arrest, and AFTER/IF the perp is found guilty in COURT, he gets punished. What if you humiliate an innocent person? You sound like you don’t give a rat’s patootie.

If “humiliation” is your MO you shouldn’t be wearing a badge, let alone the uniform of the armed forces; you’re not much better than the skateboard cop.

Also, I have to wonder what post you serve on where shop-lifting and drug-dealing are regular occurrences. I’ve lived on post, and I know military families understand that their rank won’t protect them if their kids screw up.

You say parents “hate” police. Well, if parents are unfairly treated to humiliation and assault by police officers, you think they might have a reason?

btw: I’ve never been abused by any police officer. But I’ve seen a number of policemen behave like *ssholes, so I am wary of them. Videos like these only reinforce my feelings. I image they have the same effect on a lot of other people.

Headlocks are only necessary if they use force to resist. No need for headlocks if they are just popping lip or getting flip. This cop was out of line. You don’t bumrush a kid and throw a brainduster on him for saying “dude”.

You don’t lay hands on a kid. If they become insubordinate when you confiscate their skateboards, you remind them that this won’t end well for them.

Teenagers think they are bulletproof, but when they are handcuffed and humiliated, they show their true, whiny colors.

I’m no siding with the cop with the anger management problem. I can tell he was attempting to establish a psychological dominance over their disrespectful @$$es, but to get into a back-and-forth with them verbally undermines your authority. You simply say, “sit down, shut up, fess-up the skateboards while I write your penalty fines up. You can get your skateboards back when your parents come and pay the fines.” If they become beligerent, you call for more cops to assist in a painless takedown so you don’t wind-up using excessive force against them.

The punks were punks and deserved to be dressed down a bit. But wow …. I can’t believe that DUDE (“I’m not a dude!”) is a 17-year police veteran. Most cops are so even-keeled and calm in the face of anything – this DUDE is a whiny little bitch with a temper problem.

I strongly suspect his problem involves his mode of transport. I’ll bet when he joined the force, he didn’t imagine 17 years later he’d be driving around a fruity little golf cart and having hissy fits over skate boards.

This guy reminds me totally of that student council president at some college that freaked out when some other DUDES put balloons in his office. You remember him. The “this is me being serious!” guy.

This cop could be that guy. “This is me being serious! I’m not a dude!”

Bottom line: this isn’t much of a story. But he ain’t much of a cop. He ought to be pretty embarrassed.

How the hell does he deal with actual criminals?

rayvet on February 13, 2008 at 11:46 AM

That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read all week! Police officers do not have the authority to use force in that manner. That officer was not threatened. If he was going to issue the kid a citation then so be it, but that’s not what he did.

He assaulted and battered that minor and I hope he’s prosecuted.

Since WHEN is “give me that skateboard” a lawful order when not preceded by “you’re under arrest”. Can a policeman say “gimme your car” without arresting you for, say, drunk driving?

(Oh I know: the cop was worried the kid might use his board as a weapon”.)

Since WHEN does a police officer have the right to assault someone, let alone a child, unless that person is resisting an arrest?

Since WHEN is verbal and physical abuse “teaching someone to be a man.” You actually think that fat, undisciplined, belligerent POS is a MAN? If he has kids I suspect they hate his *ss, and for good reason. This guy ABUSES his authority. He’s a role model of how NOT to act like a man.

Those of you who casually accept this kind of behavior betray your approval of thuggish behavior as long as its being done by someone “in authority”. I pity you.

At what level of law breaking do the police “give someone a break” and at what level do they bring out Thor’s hammer to annhilate them.

A citation would have been appropriate. The Billy Bada$$ act was not.

That being said, the stupid white boy with no father in the house needs someone to teach him how to be a man, and be respectful.

And that cop had something of an opportunity to do just that. He failed miserably.

And if posted with signs not to, he was breaking the law. At what level of law breaking do the police “give someone a break” and at what level do they bring out Thor’s hammer to annhilate them. That kid’s “physical” abuse at the hands of the officer was mild compared to the self inflicted abuse he puts on himself with his little toy.

I think the dude (ha ha) needs to refresh on “dealing with minors”.

That being said, the stupid white boy with no father in the house needs someone to teach him how to be a man, and be respectful. When an authority figure is speaking to you, you turn off the friggen ipod, asap.