None…

highhopes on February 13, 2008 at 1:13 PM

Because there is absolutely no reason to suggest John McCain was responsible for the USS Forrestal fire.

About 10:50, while preparations for a second strike were being made, a Zuni rocket was accidentally fired from an F-4 Phantom II by an electrical power surge during the switch from external power to internal power. It flew across the flight deck, striking a wing-mounted external fuel tank on an A-4 Skyhawk, either Aircraft No. 405 piloted by LCDR Fred D. White or No. 416 piloted by LCDR John McCain, which was waiting to launch.

This is not about attacking McCain’s military service or about McCain using his POW status as a campaign platform. This is about trying to place the blame of a tragic incident on someone for political reasons.

Regarding Kerry, I think it was less about his military service, but his actions upon arriving home that got him in the most hot water.

BohicaTwentyTwo on February 13, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Not taking sides here but how is that anymore disgusting than McCain’s use of his POW status throughout his political career?

Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing but the highest respect for McCain’s military service despite I find the man to be a worthless troll when it comes to politics. Nevertheless, doesn’t this constant self-generated hero talk by McCain dishonor the POWs and MIAs who didn’t make it home? There is something unseemly in the way McCain keeps pointing out that he was a POW. And, before you pig pile, I had the same complaint about John Kerry four years ago.

But putting McCain in front of a jet to make this statement… after he managed to LOOSE FIVE during his flying days… does not add credibility to his statement.

Romeo13 on February 13, 2008 at 9:30 AM

You do know that one of those five aircraft was one destroyed in the USS Forrestal fire that killed 134 sailors. You disgust me for using their deaths as a prop to smear McCain. FOAD.

Go back and you’ll find McCain and others said it long before Obamania was conceived.

Wonder if Hillary feels… marginalized…
elgeneralisimo on February 12, 2008 at 11:01 PM

EUTHANIZED

POTUS proposes this:

I’ve talked to Barack a lot about his Patriot Corporation Act, which is not trade per se, but it’s certainly part of the economic package around globalization.
The Patriot Corporation Act has not gotten the attention that I would hope it would. But, basically it says that if you play by the rules, if you pay decent wages, health benefits, pension; do your production here; don’t resist unionization on neutral card check, then you will be designated a “Patriot Corporation” and you will get tax advantages and some [preference] on government contracts.
There is so much here that’s profoundly objectionable. On card check, it’s “patriotic” to support the elimination of the secret ballot in the workplace? It’s “patriotic” to pay an employee $14 an hour, but not $13.83? Play by the rules? What does that mean?

Conservative Republican congressmen mount a resistance. Unfortunately they are the minority party in congress, so they have to get votes from conservative and moderate democrats.

Will they be able to attract moderate democrats’ opposition to a Dem POTUS or a GOP POTUS more easily? Think about the pressure the dem caucus will exert on its members. Is the dem leadership going to permit their folks to join the GOP opposition if there is a dem POTUS?

Oh, and McCain ain’t gonna propose a “patriot company act” anyway, but Obama is a cosponsor on the one that is already there.

Ensign’s amendment lost by one vote. Obama, Clinton and McCain voted against it.

Indy Conservative on February 13, 2008 at 8:36 AM

Don’t you know he was a war hero. Yeah, and he was a POW. blah blah blah….

I’m so sick to my stomach with how stupid the Great Political Center is.

We really do have to come together on the Republican side and hold our noses… and pull the lever for McCain.

Nineball on February 13, 2008 at 10:01 AM

You’ve got that exactly backwards. If John McCain wants to be President, he needs to hold his nose and cross over and substantively address the issues where conservatives take exception to his record and positions.

John McCain thinks he can win this election without the conservative vote. That may or may not be true but he needs grassroots Republicans out there in conservative states knocking on doors, stuffing envelopes, and otherwise supporting his candidacy and he may be “fired up” but they sure as heck aren’t. It’s up to McCain to prove he is worthy of my vote instead of this demand that I vote for the vile RINO as a default candidate.

The Dems want “Change”, while the rest of us want someone who is fired up and ready to go. We don;t need a warmed up ’60s social movement, we need someone who is going to fight Islam and protect our liberty and freedom.

We really do have to come together on the Republican side and hold our noses… and pull the lever for McCain.

But putting McCain in front of a jet to make this statement… after he managed to LOOSE FIVE during his flying days… does not add credibility to his statement.

Is America bankrupt?

Can’t we find an honest, experienced with a record of successes, ready to lead, conservative or even a liberal?!?!

Can’t we have on elections-year a candidate who don’t change positions just to be elected?

Out of 300 millions, none?

These people who are running on both parties, are they the best of what America has to offer?

Who is to blame?

I blame the stupid, uninformed, “feel good,” racists, bigots, “regular” voters who make up their mind without researching and analyzing each candidate, but rather vote according to the “look,” the “feel good about him/her,” the “he’s/she’s one of us,” the “I like him/her.”

As I wrote previously, only the American people will destroy America, not the Islamic terrorism, not China, not Iran, not Russia.

It is so depressing.

I hate to see America going down the drain by the hands of her own people, something the Founding Fathers would’ve never imagined it could happen.

Here’s a look at one of McCain’s liberal voting record, just to stick to the subject of that topic:

When Obama, Clinton and McCain Decisively Agreed

By Terence P. Jeffrey

CNSNews.com Editor in Chief

February 13, 2008

One thing Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain all have in common is that they voted to give retroactive Social Security benefits to illegal aliens who committed document fraud.

Indeed, McCain voted for it before he was against it.

On May 18, 2006, when the immigration reform proposal advocated by McCain was on the Senate floor, Sen. John Ensign of Nevada offered an amendment.

As written, the bill immunized illegal aliens from being prosecuted for document fraud, including using a stolen, or a fake, Social Security number. Additionally, the bill did not stop the current practice of allowing aliens who are eventually granted permanent legal residency to go back and claim credit with the Social Security Administration for work they did as an illegal.

Thus, the immigration reform proposal advocated by McCain in 2006 would not only have added millions of illegal aliens to Social Security rolls, it would have protected these aliens from being prosecuted for fraudulently using other people’s Social Security numbers.

Ensign sought to buffer the blow of this double-barreled attack on fiscal responsibility and the rule of law. His amendment let stand the provision granting illegal aliens immunity from prosecution for document fraud, but it denied them the ability to claim Social Security benefits based on work they did while fraudulently using someone else’s-or a fabricated-Social Security number.

When Ensign’s amendment came up, McCain tried to seize the moral high ground by suggesting supporters of Ensign’s amendment were trying to confiscate someone’s “nest egg.” “If this amendment is enacted,” he said in a floor speech, “the nest egg that these immigrants have worked hard for would be taken from them and their families.”

“I believe the amendment is wrong,” McCain said.

Ensign did not “calm down” and go away. “Is he aware that it is a felony to use someone else’s Social Security number?” Ensign asked of McCain.

“I am aware of that,” McCain said.

“Under this legislation, we forgive that felony,” said Ensign. “We grant amnesty for that felony.”

Now, the Straight Talker double-talked. “Under this legislation,” McCain responded, “we allow the illegal immigrants a path to citizenship which, if they are convicted of felonies or misdemeanors, according to an amendment, then they would be ineligible to embark on that path to earn citizenship”

Ensign neatly parsed this evasion. “Right,” said Ensign. “But … in Sections 601 and 614 of the legislation, it actually ensures that aliens who receive legal status cannot be prosecuted for document fraud, including the false use of Social Security numbers. Is the senator aware of that?”

At this point, McCain had no recourse but to admit he was proposing amnesty from document-fraud prosecution for illegal aliens whom he would put on the path to citizenship. “The senator is aware that when people come here illegally, obviously, they do not have citizenship, so, therefore, any Social Security number they use, whether it belongs to someone else or is entirely invented, is not valid,” McCain said.

Shortly, McCain also implicitly conceded that Ensign’s amendment would not deprive anybody of a “nest egg” they had saved-and explicitly stated that it was his intention to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits, which they had no reason to expect, for work they did here illegally.

“Of course they didn’t expect to receive benefits they had to pay here illegally,” said McCain. “The whole thrust of this legislation is to give them not only Social Security benefits but, as importantly, the protections under the law, as they now live in the shadows and are exploited and mistreated in many cases.”

Ensign, by contrast, was trying to protect U.S. citizens from paying taxes to provide retroactive Social Security benefits to illegal aliens who had exploited the government’s non-enforcement of both the immigration and document fraud laws.

Ensign’s amendment lost by one vote. Obama, Clinton and McCain voted against it.

On Jan. 5, one of the taxpayers Ensign was trying to protect asked McCain a question at a town hall meeting in Peterborough, N.H. He was a legal immigrant from India. “I’m a proud American, and I don’t understand, for the love of me, Republicans and Democrats calling illegal immigrants guest workers and providing for them and allowing them all kinds of services,” the man said, according to The Associated Press. “And I’m given to understand you endorse some of them.”

McCain was indignant. “I do not support, nor would I ever support, any services provided to someone who came to this country illegally, nor would I ever and have never supported Social Security benefits for people who are in this country illegally, that is absolutely false.”

Unfortunately, no one in Peterborough had the parliamentary privilege to ask the senator to yield.

(Terry Jeffrey is the editor in chief of CNSNews.com.)

TOPV is an Obama fellator, so it’s on ignore.

Also think about the Hispanic vote. Cuban Che flags might go over well with the Rage Against The Machine crowd, but not much else.

Bottom line, McCain won last night but also proved his weakness. Conservatives are not buying his utter load of crap and McCain has yet to figure out a way to “fire up” his base. Granted the anti-Christian crowd is thrilled to have one of their own in the limelight but that isn’t how the GOP gets mobilized to beat back Clinton or Obama.

Sean Hannity probably said it best. Why is it a man who is so proud of “reaching across” the aisle to work with (Obama supporter) Kennedy and (impeachment activist) Feingold so loathe to reach across his own party and work with conservatives. Perhaps one of you that keeps telling everybody to shut up support this rat bastard traitor could answer that one- “friend.”

Huckabee talks tough on illegal immigration now, but his record as Arkansas governor tells a very different story. His current stance on illegal immigration is nothing more than a political strategy to try and position himself as a “real conservative”; it’s not based on any principled beliefs. I’m inclined to judge Huckabee more on what he’s actually done in office, rather than on what he now says he’ll do. Promises — especially campaign promises — are easily broken.

If you have to shoot yourself in the foot, what do you choose to do it with, a Daisy air rifle (BB Gun) or a sawed off shotgun.

The air rifle will sting for a little while but at least you won’t blow your toes off.

Y’all are the ones on drugs!

At least Huck signed Sen Jeff Sessions immigration pledge, McCain refused.
stenwin77 on February 12, 2008 at 6:41 PM

He signed statements when his past failed to fall in line with his current position. He originally said opposition to McCain’s amnesty was partially driven by racism.
amerpundit on February 12, 2008 at 6:43 PM

Huck said it because it’s true. It is a true statement that at least some of the people against Amnesty actually are racist and don’t like Hispanics. Not a majority, just some. So to say that opposition to McCain’s amnesty was partially driven by racism is an absolutely true statement.

nominate conservative judges. I don’t ask for much

That’s a CINO talking right there. A Conservative In Name Only, who will vote for a Democrat Senator who voted against Roberts and Alito.

And for those of you who voted for Hillary, check her vote on both of those nominations.

with a smile on his face, saying, “I HOPE you like this CHANGE!”

I remind you that Obama (and Hillary) voted against the confirmation of both Roberts and Alito.

And that McCain said Alito is “too conservative“.

Huckabee/Thompson defeats Obama/Edwards this November

McCain is an open borders madman. Believe me. This liar intends to stab all of America in the back.

pat on February 12, 2008 at 11:09 PM

they will BOTH stab us in the back

darkegop on February 12, 2008 at 11:11 PM

McCain would stab you in the back.

Obama would stab you in the heart, looking you straight in the eye. I remind you that Obama (and Hillary) voted against the confirmation of both Roberts and Alito.

McCain/Obama would stab you in:
Amnesty
Judicial Nominations
etc., etc.

The candiatate who will stand strong on these issues and not stab conservatives in the back?
Mike Huckabee.

Huckabee/Thompson defeats Obama/Edwards in November

I wish McCain would answer Obama on Iraq this way

“Back in the 1960 and 1970s I layed in a Prison cell in Veitnam only wanting my Freedom back. The Government of the United States didnt abandon me because the war weny bad they stood until they got me out.

As President I wont abandon our troops who risked it all because some dont like this war. We cant abandon our principles for empty promises of change that cause things to go from bad to worse.

Our Cou8ntry needs leadership not slogans. The ability to lead us to better things not empty promises and empty slogans that say nothing and acheive nothing. I didnt survive in Veitnam by listening to political promises I survived because our leadership never gave up on me or anyone else

That my freinds is why we need a leader not an orator”

William Amos on February 12, 2008 at 11:05 PM

That was wonderful!! I totally agree and would love to use it and of course give you credit.
McCain could use Tom Petty’s song with it, “I won’t back down”.

Aaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggg !!!