Huckabee challenges WA caucus results
posted at 8:00 am on February 11, 2008 by Bryan
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If you look at the CNN state results, it does look strange: With only a couple of percentage points separating McCain and Huckabee and only 87% counted, the state GOP stopped counting and declared McCain the winner (Ron Paul, by the way, finally broke 20%). The number of votes separating them is only about 240. But that’s caucus votes, not primary votes, meaning that an actual open vote would probably separate them by more than that 240.
In any case, Huckabee is challenging the result and calling for a full investigation of the goings on in Washington state.
Washington State Republican Party Chairman Luke Esser announced late Saturday that McCain had won the 2008 Republican caucuses in the state with 87.2 percent of precincts reporting. McCain had 25.5 percent over Huckabee’s 23.7 percent in that race.
Esser issued a statement congratulating McCain on a “hard-fought win,” and Huckabee on a “strong second-place finish.”
Ed Rollins, Huckabee campaign chairman, directly challenged Esser’s move, saying the count was incomplete because the other 12.8 percent of precincts could tip the scales since McCain was beating Huckabee by only a couple hundred votes.
“The chairman showed very bad judgment in stopping the voting last night when announcing John McCain had won, when there was less than a 200-vote margin between the two candidates,” Rollins told FOX News in an exclusive interview. “You never announce a vote, in my 40 years of politics, I have never know anybody to announce a vote count before the vote is counted.”
Rollins was quick to say that the campaign was not accusing the McCain camp of anything untoward, and the issue lies solely with Esser’s call. He added that campaign attorneys have attempted to contact Esser’s lawyers but had not yet received a return phone call.The final results came during the night after the race had been declared too close to call and Washington GOP election officials decided to call it a night. Esser said a final tally would not come until Monday.
Tucked into the bottom of that story is this little nugget.
A look at exit polling from Louisiana shows that McCain remains very unpopular among Republicans who consider themselves very conservative. Speaking to “FOX News Sunday,” President Bush said McCain may have to work harder.
There’s talk out there that putting Huckabee on the ticket with McCain will help shore up the conservative South for him. The problem is, if McCain needs Huckabee’s help in the South, his nomination is in big trouble. The South is the GOP’s base and bastion. And whatever help Huckabee gives McCain south of the Mason-Dixon might be offset by Huckabee’s lack of popularity north of it and out in the more libertarian West. We may end up with a ticket known more for where it’s weak than where it’s strong.
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For those of you who think 2008 = 1976 and we need to let the Democrats win in order to get a real conservative in office in 2012, you do realize, don’t you, that:
A) There’s no guarantee that that Democrat wouldn’t win re-election in 2012 (especially if it were Hillary Clinton…who ever thought Billy Jeff would get re-elected?)
B) You are conceeding both the Presidency and the Supreme Court.
You do realize that, don’t you? A Democrat win of any variety in 2008 would harm this country for decades.
Thankfully, that won’t happen. Get used to saying “President Huckabee”. Don’t worry, you’ll get used to it. And you’ll be glad he won.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 1:29 PM
And if Huck chooses Michael Steele as his VP, say hello to “President Steele” in January 2017.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM
To the Ron Paul supporters:
My assumption is that all of you will go all the way to the general election writing in Ron Paul. If my assumption is incorrect, who are you supporting now that he has chosen to focus on keeping his House seat?
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 1:49 PM
Hummm, a LIFETIME POLITICIAN promised… tell me, WERE HIS FUNKY LIPS MOVING ????
McCain has FUNKY’d us too many times to be believable. Something about the suspension of reality…
stenwin77 on February 11, 2008 at 1:57 PM
My post in another thread is relevant to Texas and every other future primary.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 2:04 PM
I don’t really know – only guessing. Hasn’t been around for a few days, that I could see.
The opened enrollment has brought some new “interesting” views, I’ll say that. I don’t think banning is the answer, I’m all for people expressing their views. But some of them could tone it down just a bit.
stenwin77 on February 11, 2008 at 2:05 PM
I’ll be willing to get a long with a McCain ticket as long as there’s a conservative running mate.
That does NOT include Huckabee. He’s more liberal than McCain, and a slimebag to boot. As Mary Matalin put it, he has done absolutely nothing for the Republican party and conservative causes.
His stances on the Fair Tax, abolishing the IRS, the Human Life Amendment, etc. have no chance of passing.
His history of raising taxes, pardoning 12 murderers, and giving taxpayer money to illegals make him the worst Republican Presidential candidate in years. Even worse than Ron Paul.
Huckster will NEVER, EVER get my vote.
bigred on February 11, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Too many Republicans are in awe of Obama…with how much he has accomplished in delegates with so little in terms of experience.
What we should be realizing from that is the power of hope. The power of positive thinking.
Most of you look to our side with despair. That is a poor choice on your part. The Democrats don’t own hope and positive thinking. To the contrary, we beat them in a head-to-head match up when we choose to. Huckabee represents hope for our party. As he wins more and more caucuses and primaries, people will get more and more hopeful on our side. By the time Huckabee gets the nomination at the convention, the “Hope” advantage will be ours, not Obamas.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Ummm, NOT !!! Hope for the PRISONERS and ILLEGAL ALIENS, maybe.
stenwin77 on February 11, 2008 at 2:20 PM
How is a mere prophet going to beat the messiah himself? Maybe Huck can be Obama’s VP and use his preaching skills to announce to the world the second coming. Their positions are similar enough that it should work.
phronesis on February 11, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Too many Republicans dislike McCain as much as they dislike Clinton. Obama couldn’t be any worse than these two, could he? In any case, at least he isn’t either one of these two.
But lets see this from my perspective:
Obama = The new face of old Europe socialism.
Clinton = Karl Marx in drag.
McCain = The Manchurian Candidate.
Huckabee = An unabashed Christian, notwithstanding his liberal politics.
Out of all four, Obama looks the prettiest on TV. And in lieu of any other choices we’re probably going to vote for the pretty candidate.
Except that Huckabee is benefiting more than anyone in the caucuses, meaning that he is probably just as viable a Republican candidate as McCain in the larger sense.
But in the end both the DNC and RNC are running candidates based primarily on which party will remain in power, regardless of any substance to the issues in the respective platforms.
The GOP needs to trust their voting base and run a real conservative. This straddling of the “progressive fence” is killing the party.
Lawrence on February 11, 2008 at 2:35 PM
If Huckabee is anywhere near the GOP Ticket, Utah will vote Democrat.
Huck’s religion-baiting was simply too flagrant and frequent. We don’t ask much from our candidates, but outright hostility to our existence is beyond the pale.
sulla on February 11, 2008 at 2:36 PM
True dat. That’s why I’ve never understood why most Jews consistently vote Democrat when the Dems are openly hostile to Israel and support openly and violently anti-Semitic people and countries.
I imagine that you’re right and Mormons would NOT support Mike Huckabee in the general election, and justifiably so based on his rhetoric and behavior. Can a Republican win the general election without Utah? I’m thinking no.
aero on February 11, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Ron Paul supporters, vote for the candidate you like, this is America. Everyone vote for the candidate you like, this is America. People that think they need to bully others to vote for people they don’t like, go back to the
socialistDemocrat party.Looking at the monkey business in WA, it stinks. Exactly why is our party acting like Democrats…. Oh yeah, because we keep electing Democrats with an R after their names. The fake Republicans need to at least act more like Reagan than Bill Clinton. Full count or full investigation.
Buzzy on February 11, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Jewish folks vote liberal because:
a)They are liberal
b)Evangelical christians are not liberal
c)Jewish people don’t fear dumbass no nothings and atheists as much as they do WASP capitalist elites
pc on February 11, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Huckabee challenges WA caucus results
Is there any more proof needed that this man is a Democrat?
SimplyKimberly on February 11, 2008 at 4:25 PM
The only problem for the Hucksters is “conservatives” now make up something less than half the Republican primary electorate.
steveegg on February 11, 2008 at 5:01 PM
First, there is only one messiah, and it’s not Obama.
But, to use your analogy, Huckabee is the messiah who will save the Republican party from McCain and the country from Obama. Huck’s not a prophet…that’s my role :-)
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Second, does this look like presidential material to you?
Third, if Hillary is the Democrat nominee, no one knows the Clinton’s skeletons in the closet better than Huckabee. It’s a good thing Huckabee has Secret Service protection. (not to mention Holy Spirit protection, but you probably can’t handle that truth)
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Although I am not a Huckabee fan, I think he should fight the results to ensure all the votes are counted.
azcop on February 12, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Huckabee is so “unpresidential” and divisive on religion and culture, so backwoods in his manner and backroom in his tactics that I believe that he would keep GOP voters away from the polls in much larger numbers than McCain, who, even among his detractors, is grudgingly acknowledged as solid on at least one issue.
If McCain put him on the ticket, it would be a disaster….
All that said, something stinks about this Washington thing, and the results should be investigated, if this is an atypical situation. My question is, IS it atypical to stop the vote counting before 100% of the results are in, or is this just Huckabee creating an issue from something that has been common practice in past caucuses??
Priscilla on February 12, 2008 at 7:48 AM
From what I’ve seen when tracking results, at 87% it’s unlikely the percentages for either of them will change meaningfully. Just the same, they shouldn’t ignore the remaining 13% of the vote.
Shay on February 12, 2008 at 7:02 PM
Not to put too fine a point on this, but the Washington state caucus results were NOT votes. They didn’t count for delegates, they were selecting delegates that will then choose who to support for president at the state convention (50%) the other 50% are chosen by a primary vote to occur on the 19th of February.
For Huckabee to send lawyers, to claim that voters were disenfranchised is just plain stupid. Not understanding the process and complaining to the press and sending lawyers is just plain offensive. Washington State Republican Party Open Letter
I know a lot of people that are voting for McCain now; Huckabee came off as a lying whiner. The press didn’t have much of a clue on how the process works here in Washington. Four of the counties made errors on how the counts were supposed to work, but there were NO votes at the caucus for presidential candidates, there were NO delegates chosen, there was a straw poll. Not binding any delegates to a particular candidate.
Huckabee blew it, he made enemies here.
Skeptic on February 13, 2008 at 1:29 AM
You do realize, don’t you, that our candidates have been chosen by the media? It won’t matter who we vote for, the die is cast already, they’re all liberal.
You really need to take this red pill you speak of.
fossten on February 13, 2008 at 12:07 PM
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