Hannity to pro-Obama focus group: Name one accomplishment — the sequel

posted at 10:26 pm on February 11, 2008 by Allahpundit

The exciting conclusion! Will the Obamites finally come up with a concrete achievement? Or is it Hope and Change from now until Election Day? An anxious Maverick waits in the wings.


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“Because he’s the only African American”. I wonder what would happen if I went around saying I’m voting for McCain because he’s white. Or, I’m hiring that person because the only other option would be a black. What a shallow reason. Anyone who would vote for that reason needs to have their voter id card revoked. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

sheesh on February 12, 2008 at 10:15 AM

Hey, if people want to support Obama, even if their reasons aren’t “acceptable” to many people on this board, then fine. Besides, if there was a Democrat who had “legitimate” reasons/qualifications (Ted Kennedy? Bill Richardson?), then many here would dismiss their qualifications as awful.

They want to vote for Obama? Let them. You think their reasons are flimsy? Oh boy. I guess they forgot to run it by many of the smug, pompous posters on Hot Air.

asc85 on February 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM

asc85 on February 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM

This is America, you have the right to vote for an unaccomplished, smooth talking coward as president and the “Smug, pompous posters at hot air” have a right to ridicule you for it.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 12, 2008 at 10:30 AM

I guess they forgot to run it by many of the smug, pompous posters on Hot Air.
asc85 on February 12, 2008
Dude… you sound so, bitter.

christophercube on February 12, 2008 at 10:34 AM

Hey, if people want to support Obama, even if their reasons aren’t “acceptable” to many people on this board, then fine. Besides, if there was a Democrat who had “legitimate” reasons/qualifications (Ted Kennedy? Bill Richardson?), then many here would dismiss their qualifications as awful.

They want to vote for Obama? Let them. You think their reasons are flimsy? Oh boy. I guess they forgot to run it by many of the smug, pompous posters on Hot Air.

asc85 on February 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM

First, we wouldn’t dismiss the qualifications a Democrat who actually had legitimate qualifications. Bill Richardson was a governor. Bill Clinton was a governor. Criss Dodd and Joe Biden have been in the Senate forever.

But who do the Democrats choose to represent them? A two year black guy (his most important qualification, since he wouldn’t matter without it. See: John Edwards) who voted present a bunch of times (when he wasn’t voting liberal) and a one term carpetbagging senator who only got there on the coattails of her husband and whose only exacutive experience is watching hubby work.

Although I suppose Hillary does know how to run a Chinese money-bundling syndicate. She does have hands on experience there. If only China weren’t aborting so many of their kids, she’d probably beat Barack hands down with all those $2300 contributions from infants.

BKennedy on February 12, 2008 at 10:37 AM

They want to vote for Obama? Let them. You think their reasons are flimsy? Oh boy. I guess they forgot to run it by many of the smug, pompous posters on Hot Air.

asc85 on February 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM

I know watching that focus group must smart a bit, but just soldier on. When the going gets tough, the tough,…you know how the rest of it goes.

a capella on February 12, 2008 at 10:41 AM

They want to vote for Obama? Let them. You think their reasons are flimsy? Oh boy. I guess they forgot to run it by many of the smug, pompous posters on Hot Air.

asc85 on February 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Is this your best? You blame us for their ignorant, superficial logic? Obama supporters choose their presidential candidates using a list of superlatives and when we point that out, we’re being smug and pompous?

Really, stop with the liberal squishiness. “Just cuz,” makes not a qualification nor a presidential candidate.

geckomon on February 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Heres an accomplishment. He spanked Billary bigtime. Stopping the Billary express is no less than superhuman.

ronsfi on February 12, 2008 at 10:54 AM

mycowardice on February 12, 2008 at 9:38 AM

That post is exactly why I said I won’t harp on each individual point with you, because I could tell what type of person you are. A lib who, after making a bunch of stupid comments, will keep trying to spin everything to make himself sound less stupid. Things like saying Hillary got caught up in the “Bush juggernaut” (referring to going to Iraq), is disgustingly dishonest. This was the Clinton’s rodeo long before it was Bush’s. Dubya just came to ride. I know the echo chambers at Dkos and HuffPo probably haven’t told you, but as I said the Democrats (especially those who’ve spent the last 5 years calling Bush a liar) spent 13 years making the “WMDs in Iraq” case, leading right up to the war.

Getting back to Edwards specifically, you missed the point. Well, you didn’t so much miss the point, as attempt to spin away after being made a fool of. I’ll waste a few seconds and make an ass out of you again… The point was, Edwards was in full support of Bush’s handling of the war in 2004 (because that was politics).. This round he decided he needed to go extreme left and prove he was the most anti-war of the bunch, without explaining the flip… he simply used the fact that the media wouldn’t hold him (a Democrat) accountable and just did a 180. ANYONE who supported him was either a disgustingly dishonest individual, or a complete moron.

Again, I’ve already wasted too much time feeding the troll (you), and I’m not going to get in to the back and forth you’re here to do.

As for asc85… Bkennedy just wasted you.

RightWinged on February 12, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Obama supporters choose their presidential candidates using a list of superlatives and when we point that out, we’re being smug and pompous?

Really, stop with the liberal squishiness. “Just cuz,” makes not a qualification nor a presidential candidate.

geckomon on February 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Geckomon,

If I think we need some serious reform of health care and see only Obama and Hillary proposing such a plan, who do you suggest I vote for? Huckabee? McCain?

I mean seriously, can’t we vote for the candidate we feel has the best plan? Does it have to be about past accomplishments?

mycowardice on February 12, 2008 at 11:06 AM

the “I Pass” answer was the best lol

trailortrash on February 12, 2008 at 11:06 AM

They want to vote for Obama? Let them. You think their reasons are flimsy? Oh boy. I guess they forgot to run it by many of the smug, pompous posters on Hot Air.

asc85 on February 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM

This is America, you have the right to vote for an unaccomplished, smooth talking coward as president and the “Smug, pompous posters at hot air” have a right to ridicule you for it.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 12, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Is “asc” short for ass clown?

Jaibones on February 12, 2008 at 11:08 AM

If I think we need some serious reform of health care and see only Obama and Hillary proposing such a plan, who do you suggest I vote for? Huckabee? McCain?

I mean seriously, can’t we vote for the candidate we feel has the best plan? Does it have to be about past accomplishments?

mycowardice on February 12, 2008 at 11:06 AM

The government is not good at doing much of anything (see: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid pending bankruptcies). Why should we allow it to get its mitts on health care?

Hillary has demonstrated amply that she can’t handle health care reform. Obama hasn’t clued us in on anything he’s good at (except maybe shinola).

jdpaz on February 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM

I mean seriously, can’t we vote for the candidate we feel has the best plan? Does it have to be about past accomplishments?

mycowardice on February 12, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Touch Feely Promises: Good
Proven Experience: Bad

That’s a funny little world you live in.

fogw on February 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM

I’m a black guy… I ask my family and friends this question all the time. They really don’t have an answer. Some get angry and frustrated, others try to reach for something. In the end, it looks just like this video. This is really telling when people are so caught up in the cult of personality. Just FYI, many Germans were caught up in the personality of Hitler.

cattekc on February 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM

The Audacity of Hope
by Barack Obama Mike Huckabee

You want “Change We Can Believe In”?

How about this:

Building the Fence by July 1, 2010
Abolishing the IRS

Obama ain’t got game. He’ll get the Dem nomination because of how many Dems despise Hillary and fall for the false hope he’s preaching. But he’ll lose the general when his “change” bubble bursts because he’s up against a man who offers real hope. Read one of his 9 books.

sarc: Oh, but wait, I thought Huckabee was supposed to be stupid, just like President George W. Bush. /sarc

That is why the Democrats won’t take him seriously and will lose to him just like they lost twice to Bush. Say hello to President Mike Huckabee.

Yes, people want “change”. Here’s a tip: they are going to get change no matter what … George W. Bush is not running for a third term!

Obama’s “change” would destroy this country.

Huckabee’s “change” will be great for this country.

Huckabee/Thompson defeats Obama/Edwards in November.
Change You Can (and will) Believe In.

ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 11:39 AM

many Germans were caught up in the personality of Hitler.

cattekc on February 12, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Don’t let Olby hear you say that.

OneGyT on February 12, 2008 at 11:54 AM

“Because he’s the only African American”. I wonder what would happen if I went around saying I’m voting for McCain because he’s white. Or, I’m hiring that person because the only other option would be a black. What a shallow reason. Anyone who would vote for that reason needs to have their voter id card revoked. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

sheesh on February 12, 2008 at 10:15 AM

I believe Mike Huckabee will choose Fred Thompson as his VP. I’d be equally happy with Huckabee choosing Michael Steele, but the only problem would be that the Dems would accuse him of picking Steele because of his race. Dems are the racists. One of the best books on this subject is

It’s OK to Leave the Plantation : The New Underground Railroad
by Clarence Mason Weaver

Hillary is livid that some of her black “slaves” are revolting and supporting one of their own to be the new “master”.

She didn’t factor that in to her Presidential Game Plan that she has been working on since about 1998.

ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 11:55 AM

I know the answer of the question. And the answer is: “HE’S DONE EVERYTHING DICK DURBAN HAS TOLD HIM TO DO”!!!

dalec on February 12, 2008 at 11:59 AM

One more thing about Hillary’s Presidential Game Plan…

Everywhere she goes she talks about how she’s ready to “hit the ground running day one”.

Have you ever stopped to ask yourself what you think she would do in her first 100 days in office? It would be the 100 worst days of your life, and would negatively affect the rest of your life. She would attack everything that you hold dear. Two or more liberal Supreme Court Justices would retire so that she could replace them with younger liberal justices. And the list goes on…

And some of you are foolish enough to actually consider voting for her in Democrat primaries.

Thank God (literally) that Huckabee will save this country from McCain/Clinton/Obama.

ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Wasn’t he the first black president of the Harvard Law Society?

DeathtotheSwiss on February 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM

They want to vote for Obama? Let them. You think their reasons are flimsy? Oh boy. I guess they forgot to run it by many of the smug, pompous posters on Hot Air.

There’s nothing smug or pompous about thinking it’s ridiculous to vote for a man based on race or how he makes you feeeel. I don’t want to feeel that my President will protect this country against terrorism; I want to know without a doubt that he will protect this country from Islamo fascists who wish to force their brand of 7th century justice on the rest of the world. How do I know my candidate for President will do this? His record

Wileygrl3 on February 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM

ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Umm? maybe, you should have taken the blue pill.

Brian on February 12, 2008 at 12:18 PM

They had time to think about it this time and they are still clueless. This is not funny anymore.

RobCon on February 12, 2008 at 12:21 PM

They did much the same on a local radio station this morning. They also got pretty much the same answers, minus the “because he’s black”, one. The best answer they came up with was hope. Well, I hope we don’t nominate a President on hope alone.

oakpack on February 12, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Oh boy. I guess they forgot to run it by many of the smug, pompous posters on Hot Air.

asc85 on February 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Aren’t you a poster???

right2bright on February 12, 2008 at 12:33 PM

I mean seriously, can’t we vote for the candidate we feel has the best plan? Does it have to be about past accomplishments?

mycowardice on February 12, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Come on. This statement has to be a joke. Or are your reasoning skills that hamstrung that you cling to them as if someone will agree to with you based on sympathy for you. This is the reason why a true democracy is a fallacy. Ill informed and illogical reasoning is thrown out for the sake of anyone being allowed to vote. The flaw in a true democracy: idiots abound.

geckomon on February 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM

This is fun to read all the “fairy tales” people are making up trying to justify McCain.

These were exceptionally good:

Interesting video. Obama supporters still can’t think of anything he accomplished in the senate and in the house. But I can see the comeback from Obama supporters: “What did McCain do in his over 25 years in congress? After all you guys hated his campaign finance and illegal immigration legislations?”

My response would be:
a) Strong advocate against pork barrel projects
b) Helped to end the Dems streak of filbustering Bush’s supreme court justices through the gang of 14 (It was a successful)
c) Maintained a strong record on being tax payer friendly.

Frank T.J Mackey on February 12, 2008 at 5:59 AM

It’s like Lenin said, ” A lie told often enohg becomes the truth”

McCain is one of us
McCain is one of us
McCain is one of us (ouch get that knife outta my back)
McCain is one of us

To funny :-)

Thanks

TOPV on February 12, 2008 at 8:14 AM

TOPV, I did not vote for McCain in the Republican primaries. I voted for Romney. But I do think McCain is a much better choice than Hillary or Obama.

McCain agrees with us on abortion, gay marriage, guns, controlling government spending, taxes, free trade, the patriot act, the Iraq war, and to some extent illegal immigration. According to the American Conservative Union, he has an 82% lifetime conservative voting record. That’s 4% less than Fred Thompson’s rating. The National Taxpayers Union has given him an “A” grade ten out of the last fifteen years, he’s been in the senate. The other five years he got grades in the B range.

The point I was trying to make is that Obama supporters are just going to hit back and say, “Well what did McCain accomplish in the Senate? You can’t throw stones at glass houses.”

Frank T.J Mackey on February 12, 2008 at 12:45 PM

Wasn’t he the first black president of the Harvard Law Society?

DeathtotheSwiss on February 12, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Why yes. He was indeed the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. Quite an accomplishment for someone who cares nothing for racial labels!

(Isn’t it odd that when citing Obama’s accomplishments people still need to go back to what he did in law school? I’m three years younger than Obama, and have an advanced degree. I’d be embarrassed if during a job interview I still needed to discuss the work I did in graduate school. And I even did community organizing! Hey wait a sec…Scatbug for President!!)

scatbug on February 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM

So is this eHarmony or a Presidential election? I’m confused.

Numenorean on February 12, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Come on. This statement has to be a joke. Or are your reasoning skills that hamstrung that you cling to them as if someone will agree to with you based on sympathy for you.

I am not sure what to say. At the end of the day, I am not going to vote for an idiot even if he or she has the best plan. But I don’t think Hillary, Obama, Huckabee or McCain are idiots. So now that this is out of the way…

I like Obama’s plan. What is so hard to comprehend? My logic, simplified, is very clear:

quality of candidate + quality of plan = my ranking

I don’t understand which part of that is causing you grief.

This is the reason why a true democracy is a fallacy. Ill informed and illogical reasoning is thrown out for the sake of anyone being allowed to vote. The flaw in a true democracy: idiots abound.

geckomon on February 12, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Like you said, true democracy seems to include idiots voting. I am not sure it is a flaw though, because the alternative to that is revoking the voting rights of some people, something that can really be abused.

mycowardice on February 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM

I guess identity politics are a virtue after all.

Seriously, that was priceless.

John on February 12, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Why yes. He was indeed the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. Quite an accomplishment for someone who cares nothing for racial labels!

scatbug on February 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Indeed. The Democrats are obsessed by race. A legacy of their shameful history.

Of far more significant interest to the American people will be whether Hussein Obama will heeding the calls of his tribe to send armaments and troops to Kenya to help his family win the conflict. It will soon be clear why he wants to exit Iraq as soon as possible.

Pax americana on February 12, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Like you said, true democracy seems to include idiots voting. I am not sure it is a flaw though, because the alternative to that is revoking the voting rights of some people, something that can really be abused.

mycowardice on February 12, 2008 at 1:21 PM

May I interject the term “super delegate” and the process thereof.

Further, this gaggle of undecided voters is the reason I say “Good thing the United States of America is not a democracy.” Disagree? Ever really study our Pledge of Allegiance? Have you read the Federalist Papers (No. 10, i.e.)?

geckomon on February 12, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Have you read the Federalist Papers (No. 10, i.e.)?

geckomon on February 12, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Bro, most Dems think the Federalist Papers is another name for their tax forms.

Pax americana on February 12, 2008 at 2:20 PM

I’d be embarrassed if during a job interview I still needed to discuss the work I did in graduate school. And I even did community organizing! Hey wait a sec…Scatbug for President!!

scatbug on February 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Is it gauche to comment on one’s own comment? No matter…

I got to thinking more about this. Obama and I were both in the community organizing racket about 20 years ago. By all accounts he is rather proud of his time spent in that line of work. In fact, he has stated that he intends to use that experience to inform his policies as president. Therefore, it could be said that the leading Democratic contender has the political philosophy of a 20-something year old bleeding heart do-gooder. In other words, his politics have remained frozen in time, stagnated, left to gather dust and mildew.

I, on the other hand, view my work on the frontlines of Caring with detached bemusement. Over the past two decades, through intense reading and study, my political views have evolved, matured, and (dare I say it?) changed. I’m tellin’ ya…If I can just get the hope thing down, I can beat that Obama fellow. Anybody got Huck’s number? I need the going price on delegates.

scatbug on February 12, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Pax americana on February 12, 2008 at 2:20 PM

lol

geckomon on February 12, 2008 at 2:40 PM

scatbug – I’d be tempted to vote for you, but I can only vote for someone with a comprehensive health care reform plan. Of course, if you have one I don’t care whether you have chopped up your neighbors and stuffed them in your freezer. Gotta have priorities.

jl on February 12, 2008 at 3:46 PM

jl on February 12, 2008 at 3:46 PM

My health plan: “Will you be paying by cash, or check?”

scatbug on February 12, 2008 at 3:54 PM

scatbug – That’s comprehensive! I like it. To whom do I have my Chinese friends make out their checks?

jl on February 12, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Hmm. Name one Obama accomplishment?

Well, he compared himself to Google on 60 Minutes last Sunday, in that, what he lacks in executive experience, he more than makes up for in “performance”…

Kroft was too busy making googly-eyes at him to call him on it though. And the rest of the MSM hasn’t either. Surprise.

So I guess that’s an “accomplishment”.

Teddy on February 12, 2008 at 4:02 PM

I can name one accomplishment of Obama. He’s successfully begun, mobilized, lead and propelled to the forefront a campaign that should have been relegated to “also ran” early on, especially considering that he’s not even served a full term in the Senate or held any position of major importance in his life. He’s a nobody like me that’s gone from nothing to potentially winning the White House on the strength of his personality. As a black man, without resorting to the established race-card tactics of his black contemporaries. As a Democrat, without resorting entirely to the fall-back class warfare tactics of his Democrat contemporaries. He’s a gifted campaigner and politician that’s mobilized public opinion in a way that the country hasn’t seen since Reagan.

He’s accomplishing right now, folks. Don’t ignore that. If he really believes what he’s saying, if he’s looking to become a movement leader as well as a gifted politician, then regardless of the outcome in this campaign, he is and will be a formidable opponent for a long time.

That said, I hope he does believe what he’s saying. I look forward to fighting him tooth and nail in the arena of ideas. Who knows, maybe one day we can convince him that our ideas are the future, that his hope is well placed only in a country that is free and where all men and women are unencumbered by oppression from the State.

spmat on February 12, 2008 at 4:30 PM

I can name one accomplishment of Obama. He’s successfully begun, mobilized, lead and propelled to the forefront a campaign that should have been relegated to “also ran” early on, especially considering that he’s not even served a full term in the Senate or held any position of major importance in his life.
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He’s accomplishing right now, folks.

spmat on February 12, 2008 at 4:30 PM

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Perhaps, but the nature of his accomplishment in gaining (or earning, if we must) a following is not all that distinguishable from Coldplay, or Tyra Banks, or Dr. Phil.
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At any rate, the point is not that he lacks accomplishments, it is that there are soooooo many people willing to vote for him when they cannot name a single one.

SlimyBill on February 12, 2008 at 4:58 PM

Bro, most Dems think the Federalist Papers is another name for their tax forms.

Pax americana on February 12, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Heh. And they couldn’t tell you who authored the U.S. Constitution either without googling it…

eanax on February 12, 2008 at 7:32 PM

His biggest accomplishment will be to win more popular votes than Shrillary, but still lose at the convention. BWahahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahah….bwahahahahaahahhaahahahhahhahaha.

SouthernGent on February 12, 2008 at 9:46 PM

I see 113 bills in the Senate with Obama’s name as sponsor.

Lots of commemorative bills, a few condemnation bills, and lots of social spending. Almost all of them are stuck in committee. Accomplishments? Not that I can see.

He’s either a follower with charisma, or a leader with no gumption.

The question then, who’s he following?

desertdweller on February 12, 2008 at 10:09 AM

Two words: George Soros.

ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Two words: George Soros.

ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Who is an equal opportunity employer.

America’s been shtup’ed.

Shy Guy on February 13, 2008 at 2:18 AM

The only thing Obama is accomplishing right now is promoting himself. No bread, no beef, empty suit, and communist leanings.

davecatbone on February 13, 2008 at 8:26 AM

He’s an African American? Seriously? that’s what we can praise him for?

Wow. I’m going to go out now and congratulate all of my black friends for picking such excellent genes before they were born. I’m also going chastise my Vietnamese girlfriend for not having darker skin. Really. She should know better.

tsk.

Jewels on February 14, 2008 at 10:57 AM

My health plan: “Will you be paying by cash, or check?”

scatbug on February 12, 2008 at 3:54 PM

When your surgery costs 300,000$, will you bring in your cash in a luggage? Also, they might not accept your personal check for that amount?

mycowardice on February 14, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Two words: George Soros.

ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Who is an equal opportunity employer.

America’s been shtup’ed.

Shy Guy on February 13, 2008 at 2:18 AM

I agree completely! If George Soros gets “his guy” nominated on both the Republican ticket and the Democrat ticket, He Wins (and We The People Lose) either way!

Dennis: Listen, strange women lyin’ in ponds George Soros distributin’ swords money is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic MSM ceremony.

Red Pill on February 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM

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