Getting nervous: 21-point swing towards Huckabee in Virginia — in three days
posted at 1:28 pm on February 11, 2008 by Allahpundit
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57-25 for Maverick on Friday, 48-37 for Maverick today. The primary’s tomorrow so it’s probably too late for Huck to jump the canyon but he did pop over to casa Falwell yesterday to jam on “I’ll Fly Away” for the benefit of the local news crews, so who knows? The boss made this point last night but it bears repeating: Imagine how the media would be covering this kneecapping-of-McCain national tour if it were Romney, not Huck, who had stayed in to embark on it. Huckabee skates because he’s even better with the press than McCain is; consider this a sneak preview of how Maverick will be treated if he ends up facing Obama.
The hope was that he’d blow Huck out tomorrow night and that would shoo him to the door, but what if he finishes within single digits now? How does he drop out on that note? “I have no hope to win — even though I gained 25 points in about 48 hours”?
Update: Keep in mind, Virginia’s an open primary and the Messiah is pushing very hard indeed for independents and Republican crossovers. Every centrist he takes is one less for McCain.
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Huckabee is looking to follow God’s calling and become President of the United States. Just like George W. Bush did in 2000.
Fire away (at me), but keep your words soft and sweet. You’ll have to eat them later.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM
So that would make him a bloc head? Sorry, couldn’t resist.
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM
The man won’t be VP because he’ll be President.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM
….as Huck says, he did not major in math. LOL
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM
The independents will be running for their wallets when Messiah Obama has to start talking about something remotely substantive.
So far, the guy is vaporware.
mylegsareswollen on February 11, 2008 at 7:34 PM
You know what’s funny?
Hillary only ran for Senate to give herself a platform from which to run for President.
When she loses (either her party’s nomination or the general election), she’ll be swearing up a storm (in private) about, “How could I lose to *#%$*! [Obama/Huckabee]?” “I was born to be President! Not some stinkin’ senator!”
She really doesn’t enjoy being a Senator…refer to the often posted picture of her where she looked bored out of her mind and half asleep.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Part of me wants to skip the primary tomorrow… I can’t in good conscience vote for Huckachuck or McShamnisty. I don’t even think I’ll be allowed to write-in a candidate. On the other side, I can’t push the button for Osama or Billary either.
This year officially sucks. : (
the goddess anna on February 11, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Finish the quote…he majored in miracles.
When he wins you won’t be laughing. (But you will be glad he won).
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Right on Huck. Keep kickin’ and embarrassing McShamnesty. Maybe he’ll get the hint and make a few pledges to appeal to the base: no Shamnesty, no more attacks on the first amendment, reconsider waterboarding and Gitmo, no tax increases, etc.
Huck maybe just what we needed for McCain to tack right. Go HUCK!!!!!!
jwp1964 on February 11, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I did just check… Mitt and Fred are still on the ballot in VA, so I can still make my protest vote. Still, I have a bad feeling in my stomach about all of this.
the goddess anna on February 11, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Example of a Republican Defeatocrat.
Why don’t you cheer up, read Huckabee’s stated positions on the issues, realize that you really would like a president to do those things, and whether you trust him or not, give him a chance to prove it to you.
Vote Huckabee. You’ll be glad you did.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Yes counting on miracles is such a valuable strategy in life. That’s how we got into the mortgage crisis, because millions of people counted on a miracle to reduce their rates.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 7:47 PM
It’s going to take a miracle, and more McCain bashing for Huck to even come close. I think even the ultra conservatives are rethinking their opposition to McCain now. As long as he refrains from going negative, I think Huckabee staying in the race will be good for Republicans. Swallow, just remember, you may be eating your words as well, bon appetit
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 7:55 PM
I’m actually really glad to hear that Mitt and Fred are still on the ballot in VA.
Why? Because every vote Huck gets will be a true vote of support, not an “anti-McCain” vote. And with the independents all voting in the Democrat primary (because McCain has the Republican nomination wrapped up, right?) every vote McCain gets will be a true vote of support.
When Huck beats McCain, it will be very enlightening to a lot of people. People who wanted to support Huck, but thought he didnt’ have a chance, will now realize that he is a viable candidate, and support will flood into his campaign.
Believe it now or believe it tomorrow, but you will believe it.
McVain will go from champ to chump in the span of exactly one week.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 7:55 PM
When Huckabee gets his miracle and wins the Whitehouse, I will be glad, that will mean he beat the Democrat. But If he beats McCain, I’ll be sad because I have no doubt Hillary or Obama would defeat him handily.
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 7:57 PM
RedPill, I’ve read the Huckster’s “stated positions on the issues”, and the problem is, THEY COMPLETELY DIFFER WITH HIS PROVEN POSITIONS.
All of the sudden he claims to be tough on immigration, but as recently as November in a debate defended giving taxpayer funded scholarships and in-state tuition to illegals.
He claims to be for cutting taxes, but he RAISED taxes by $500 million.
He claims to be tough on terror but thinks we should play nice with our neighbors and should CLOSE GITMO.
When called out on closing Gitmo, he said because it was too nice, so what’s his solution? Bringing the jihadists to U.S. prisons and giving them access to our courts?
He claims to run a “fair and decent campaign” but his people would putting fliers on FRED supporters’ cars saying Thompson supported abortion and is responsible for killing 200,000 babies. Real classy.
The Huckster is SLIMIER than the Clintons, and that’s really saying something.
A ticket with him on it, NEVER, EVER gets my vote. I’ll make damn sure he loses in my state.
bigred on February 11, 2008 at 7:58 PM
You definitely took somethin’!
I hope you’re right about tomorrow only because it will be so embarrassing to McShamnsty…I have no place for Huckabee either, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
jwp1964 on February 11, 2008 at 7:59 PM
What color was the suppository?
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Perhaps Huck can pull a miracle and force the straight-talking liar McCain into taking some concrete steps to “prove” that he will not immediately legalize the illegals as soon as he can. I suggested (on one of his main advisers’ blog) for him to consider dedicating his first term to “securing” the border and dealing with the “comprehensive immigration reform” in his second term.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Green, white, and red, just like the Mexican flag. Maybe the next one he takes will change green to blue.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 8:04 PM
This is exactly why I want Huck to do well…force McShamnesty to make some promises to conservatives!!!!
jwp1964 on February 11, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Yes, it’s kinda funny how Huck turned from an evil force into a positive force, hammering McCain on immigration. Fundamentally, the democratic process, however flawed in this case, is good. People still matter and even pandering by a political chameleon can advance a good cause.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 8:10 PM
I won’t vote for either Gomer Pyle or Teddy Roosevelt tommorrow, but I hope Gomer makes close. I’d love to see this thing go to convention and neither end up winning some how. Frankly if your talking about the lesser of two evils it goes to Huckabee. He is the only one of the two that talks about Federalism. McCain is much more dangerous than most people think. He is running an Arnold campaign, run right to calm everyone down and then turn lib once you got the seat. I think many people just hate the idea of McCain so they will vote for anyone else. At least their reflexes appear sound.
LevStrauss on February 11, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Mike, I believe in miracles too!!
Keep fighting like a true American!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFuc8-FpnCs
apacalyps on February 11, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Huck isn’t that great on immigration, but if you vote for McCain you are ratifying amnesty. Remember the Republican establishment, all the people supporting McCain think you will vote for amnesty and like it. Sacrifice your dignity, core beliefs, and vote for a man who despises you.
LevStrauss on February 11, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Even in my worst days of Huck hatred I considered, and called, McCain the more dangerous of the two. Huck is a scatter-brained populist, while McCain seems to be obsessed with legalizing the illegals and making the Dems happy.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 8:21 PM
America Needs to Think About This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O58A9XGwGEk
apacalyps on February 11, 2008 at 8:23 PM
I realize that the atheists don’t have eyes to see spiritual warfare, but I’ll try to help you a little here if you’re open-minded enough to listen.
The war that has been declared upon us by the Islamofascists is a spiritual war.
Believe it or not, it is a huge Hatfield-McCoy family feud between the descendants of Ishmael (the Islamofascists) and the descendants of Isaac (the Jews and the Christians). You may have heard that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all trace back to Abraham. That is true. Now go read the story behind it and understand why Islamofascists hate Jews and Christians.
In a spiritual war, we need a spiritual warrior as our President. Which is why God called George W. Bush to the Presidency in 2000 (who else would you have wanted leading our country through 9/11?), and it is why God is calling Mike Huckabee to the Presidency in 2008. Many of you don’t believe that. When it happens, though, you might want to hit your knees and thank God.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 8:23 PM
I actually feel bad now about Fred destroying Huck’s chances as his final accomplishments. Even Rush who I generally agree with 95% of the time has to feel some remorse for attacking Huck during the Huck hate-fest while leaving McCain temporarily free from criticism.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Support the troops, vote McCain. Electing a war hero will send a clear message to our enemies and wannabe enemies abroad. A menopausal woman, a fire/brimstone preacher and a rookie minority politician just does not have the same ummmph.
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I am an atheist and I believe that the hatred you’re speaking of is based on the early refusal of the Jews in particular (in Medina) and of some Middle-Eastern Christians to accept Islam. Study the early history of Islam and you can see how the hatred developed without resorting to the the story of Abraham and his children, which in any case is told in a very different way in the two religions.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 8:27 PM
For what it’s worth, even though I am a born-again Christian, I didn’t see this at first. My first choice was Fred, not Huck. But as time has gone on, I’ve started to see God’s hand working in this. I get it now. Others will, too, but it’s a process…
I also understand that to the non-Christians, talk like this is like hearing nails on a chalkboard. That’s spiritual warfare, too. You’re hearing the voices on your left shoulder. Try listening to the voices on your right shoulder. (to lighten this up, I need a Disney picture here with the Devil on the left shoulder and the angel on the right shoulder…you’ve seen that picture before)
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 8:33 PM
IT’S NOT OVER!!
One can only hope that people will see that the Media and the Republican establishment are trying to force the nomination of John McCain. If they succeed, it will put a Democrat in the White House.
Americans are faced with an unresponsive and unaccountable one-party political system. To become President, a Republican MUST be able to win in the South. Huckabee won primaries in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee and West Virginia. He did it and it’s not over yet. He’s got victories in other States too. Anything can happen. It’s time to take your nation back. Now is the chance. Take hold of this glorious opportunity!
History Repeats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48FPRmMaCFw
Thank you, and God bless.
apacalyps on February 11, 2008 at 8:33 PM
Come on, you exaggerate how unpleasant this is to non-Christians. I consider Christianity a valuable force in stopping Islam. While an atheist, I don’t believe that atheism works in that capacity, as demonstrated in the wholesale surrender to Islam in Europe.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 8:49 PM
So you can interpret the “signs” so easily?
As an evangelical Christian, I don’t support Huck because he
1) makes goofy, make-it-up-as-you-go foreign policy statements,
2) bends the truth about his record, &
3) has a record of harboring illegals & raising taxes.
jgapinoy on February 11, 2008 at 8:55 PM
McCain practically has the nomination already, & all Huck can get by continuing to run is the satisfaction that he helped “Obamary”.
jgapinoy on February 11, 2008 at 8:57 PM
This whole election has sadly turned into one big Sophie’s choice. There are no good options. Who do you support, Hillary, Obama, Mac or Huck? This is similar to the following question: do you want to get cancer, heart attack, AIDS, or kidney failure? You still get to make a choice.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 8:58 PM
He probably will not win the nomination, but the better he does the more likely McShamnesty will have to tack right…that is not a bad thing!
jwp1964 on February 11, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Huck is doing valuable work for a change. Even if McCain only adopts something similar to my proposal of promising to only deal with “border security”, however flawed that concept is, in his first term and postpones the “comprehensive immigration reform” to his second term he will win millions of conservative votes without loosing too many hispanic votes that he cares so much about. Too many people just can’t get to vote for Amnesty even if they sacrifice Conservative Justices and the War on Terror by not voting.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 9:12 PM
While I agree that Huck is making McCain tack to the right (which is good), it does not change the fact that there is no way that I will ever vote for the Huckster. This is due not just to his record as governor of Arkansas but also because of the duplicitous way that he has ran his campaign. He is nothing more than a modern day version of Father Charles Coughlin. In addition I am sick of the way Huckabee supporters imply that anyone who does not vote for Huckabee is not a “true” Christian.
dawgyear on February 11, 2008 at 9:13 PM
1) Huckabee has and will continue to surround himself with people who are strong in the areas where he is weak. While Juan McCain surrounds himself with Juan “Mexico First” Hernandez.
2) Huckabee tells the truth about his record in the areas he wants to promote, and doesn’t talk much about the areas he doesn’t want to promote. No politician is perfect. If you are expecting perfection, why don’t you run?
3) Huckabee is pretty daggone specific about his intentions regarding immigration and taxation.
Ok, you don’t trust him. Got it. What’s McAmnesty’s response to the just re-introduced version of amnesty that’s rearing its ugly head in the congress? You want some of that? Huckabee has committed to ensuring that the border fence construction is completed by July 1, 2010.
You want the fence built? Put your money where your mouth is. Contribute to Huckabee’s campaign. NOW. Put up or shut up.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 9:14 PM
I would agree with you if they had a candidate that was locked in, but they do not so I don’t think you are going to see a lot of crossovers in this primary – if you do I think it will be Republicans in the Democrat primary. No, I think that Huckabee’s rise in the polls can be credited to the fact that they probably called people outside NOVA. NOVA is filled with DC spill over and government workers – the rest of VA, well not so much.
Govgirl on February 11, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Assuming that as “bigred” you actually want a republican to be the next president…
Here’s a better option…Vote for Huckabee. If he doesn’t do what he says he’s going to do, either impeach him or vote for Romney in the 2012 primary.
I publicly commit to that myself right here and now.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Fixed that for you.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Well, I was going to effectively counter all of ITookTheRedPill’s points, but he told me to shut up.
jgapinoy on February 11, 2008 at 9:39 PM
1) Since when did Hot Air become HuffPo or dKos?
2) Your “argument” makes no sense (Duh, I’m for secure borders, not amnesty)
3) Remember how I told you to keep your words soft and sweet because you’re going to have to eat them? Well, now the two of you are going to have to eat suppositories. Enjoy it.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 9:43 PM
No, I told you to put up or shut up. You made the choice not to put up (contribute to the one and only candidate who has committed to build the fence and put a date on it), so you made the choice to shut up. Sad. I guess I should just agree with you and accept amnesty a la McCain/Clinton/Obama….NOT!
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 9:46 PM
I know you’re for secure borders. The comment was directed at McCain, not you.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Yeah, and the New England Patriots practically had the Super Bowl won & all the New York Giants could get by continuing to play was … winning.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Lighten up Frances. I can’t really tell that much difference between McCain and Huck except that McCain has a much larger record as he has been dealing with so many of these issues as a Senator. They are both populist moderate conservatives. The thing that bothers me is how Huck panders to the religious leaders. Pandering is why I could not support Mitt, and I sure as hell will not make an exception for Huckabee. It may be weak on my part, but i’m tired of hearing the left whine about the religious right and I just don’t see any reason to give them a target. I admire your confidence in Mike, I just don’t share it, sorry. I plan to support our troops by voting McCain when my time finally comes.
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Another example of a Republican Defeatocrat.
Huckabee’s published and committed stand on the issues is solidly conservative. You just don’t trust him. I got that. I said it before and I’ll say it again…vote for Huckabee and give him a chance to do what he says he’s going to do. If he doesn’t, I will support either his impeachment or Mitt Romney for President in 2012. IMHO you should do the same.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Sigh…if only you had as much logic as you have zeal…
jgapinoy on February 11, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Well impeachment over broken promises doesn’t work, but I would vote for Huckabee over McCain. It will be significantly more difficult for him to become a total Amnesty fanatic having signed the anti-Amnesty pledge. I just don’t believe that he has a mathematical chance and I’m done with my primaries having voted for Romney when he still had a chance. Listen, if through divine intervention or otherwise Huck defeats both McCain and Hillobama I’ll find that the best possible outcome under the circumstances.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Igor, thanks for being honest about your feelings. It’s going to be great to see Huck extend the olive branch of peace and forgiveness to Fred, and have Fred accept Huck’s invitation to be his VP. Together, they will be awesome…like the best parts of Bush/Chaney (just without the amnesty).
Huckabee/Thompson defeats Obama/Edwards this November.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I’m all for that ticket. It woould be slightly too Southern-oriented, but heck if Huckabee can defeat McCain at this point he has got to be the strongest candidate in the history of the United States.
Igor R. on February 11, 2008 at 10:32 PM
That’s what is so cool about all this. Under Huckabee’s own power he doesn’t have a chance… but God’s hand truly is moving here, and with God all things are possible. When Huck wins, he will give all the glory to God, and God will be glorified. In this nation, that was founded by men with a “firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence“, God will be glorified. When it happens, I strongly suggest that you hit your knees and thank God. If for nothing else than for saving you from McCain, Hillary, and Obama.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Huckabee is no better than McCain on immigration
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 10:37 PM
That is exactly why Huckabee will lose in the general election, Americans do not want to be preached to everytime the president speaks. That’s why we go to church.
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Of course, I also strongly suggest that you hit your knees and thank God for saving you from something else.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:46 PM
myamphibian, your arguments are weak. America elected a born-again Christian in 2000, re-elected him in 2004, and will elect another one in 2008.
I scan this page for your posts, and every single one of them is either weak, offensive, or both.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM
RP, you have got to be pulling my leg. I’m sure you’re a left wing liberal plant. This is exactly why the Democrats dream of Huckabee on a Republican ticket. I love the baby jesus but I think you’re a jerk for trying to make this about religion.
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Yeah, right. Let’s see McCain commit to this.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Again, weak. I refer you to my first post on Hot Air.
Still think I’m a “left wing liberal plant”? Give me a break.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:56 PM
And I remind everyone that that interview was just part of Hillary’s 2008 campaign game plan. She has been planning this campaign since the time she was first lady. The only reason she ran for senate was to give her a platform from which to run for president.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Pfft, talk about weak: gotta love the fine print
I don’t mean to offend you RP (not that i’ll lose any sleep as it’s highly unlikely to be avoidable) but I have had it up to hear with smarmy politicians that say what we want to hear. The end.
myamphibian on February 11, 2008 at 11:06 PM
It really won’t be that hard to beat either Hillary or Obama. You folks give them way to much credit. I remind you that only two Democratic presidential candidates from 1900 onward got a higher percentage of the popular vote than the 50.7% that George W. Bush got in 2004, and they were FDR and LBJ. It’s been 44 (forty-four) years since the Democrats have done as well as our born-again Christian President did less than four years ago. And that was facing the most negative media blitz against him in the history of this country. Think about all of the negative Iraq press they had…they don’t have that now. Think about amnesty…this country doesn’t want that, and the Democrats are all for it. Remember the lies of Rathergate that were exposed (and brought an improved, although far from perfect, level of accountability to the MSM).
We are going to win, folks. Get excited! It’s going to be FUN to watch!
Huckabee/Thompson defeats Obama/Edwards in November.
The border fence gets completed by July 1, 2010.
:-)
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Duh, the asterisk refers to a single check point, not the entire document:
Good. I hope that’s the last we hear from you. Now go back home where you belong.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 11:23 PM
“myamphibian” must be a Darwin reference. I’ll bet he’s got one of those Darwin decals on the back of his car. It’s no wonder that he’s “had it up to hear[sic]” with evangelicals. It’s because the truth is slapping him silly. Ouch! That’s gonna leave a mark!
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Good news:
Huckabee is over 95% of the way to reaching his goal for 2/12 of raising $1M .
Challenge:
If you want the border fence built, put your money where your mouth is. Contribute to Huckabee’s campaign.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 11:35 PM
You don’t have to vote for Amnesty.
You don’t have to sacrifice Conservative Justices.
You dont’ have to sacrifice the War on Terror.
Vote for Huckabee.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I, for one, never said that, and never will.
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Voting Huckabee would be a grave mistake:
You vote for releasing murderers and rapists.
You vote for tax hikes and stealth taxes
Huck supporters are beginning to realise there is a better choice. Alan Keyes is the real conservative. Let’s get him on the GOP ticket.
Pax americana on February 12, 2008 at 12:03 AM
jgapinoy, I’ve just reviewed this page for all of your posts, and it becomes clear that your posts are like myamphibian’s: weak and offensive.
You both need to go back home where you belong.
Stop trying to get a Democrat to be the Republican nominee, and go support your Democrat of choice, who will lose in November.
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I submit to you that “myamphibian” is part of Hillary’s 2008 campaign game plan.
Absolutely HILLarious for him/her/it to call say, “I’m sure you’re a left wing liberal plant.”
Really, Hillary, is that the best you can do?
As Huckabee said on Colbert, “Game on!”
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Question: How well do states ensure that people don’t vote in both primaries (D and R)? I hope they prevent that, especially in states where the D and R primaries are on different days. McCain is the current delegate leader because of the D’s that have voted for him in the R primaries. It’s easy to see why…if they can get a RINO to win the R primary, they get a D president no matter what happens in November.
Now, however, as long as the states prevent double-voting, that D contingent of McCain’s base will be gone. They’ll all be voting in the D primaries because 1) the D race is neck-in-neck right now and there’s a lot of bad blood between Clinton and Obama, and 2) they all assume McCain has the Republican nomination locked up.
We just need to ensure that the elections are kept honest.
Never forget that the Dems who think Bush “stole” the election(s) will think that justifies them stealing an election. Don’t let them cheat.
The cool thing is that some will try to cheat, but because God’s hand is moving in this election, the cheaters will be exposed, just as Rather was exposed during Rathergate. God is good. :-)
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 12:28 AM
And Alan has how many delegates right now? Even at a brokered convention, it will be hard to justify putting someone with 0 (zero) delegates on the ticket.
Huckabee/Thompson defeats Obama/Edwards this November.
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 12:39 AM
ITookTheRedPill—-
Your enthusiasm for your candidate is nice. Some of us simply do not support Mike Huckabee because of his past actions as Gov. in AR and his campaign pandering.
And no, a gazillion more of your posts will not change my mind. Maybe you’ll have better luck convincing some of the others who do not support Huckabee.
Oh, and one more thing………
To insert “evangelicals” in someone’s post (referencing pandering) when they clearly stated “smarmy politicians”, well that’s just dishonest.
LodeStar on February 12, 2008 at 12:45 AM
I realize that it is just an advertisement, but there is currently an ad running on the front page of dailykos that is a picture of McCain (!) with the biggest Chesire cat grin you have ever seen.
You think the Dems aren’t absolutely ecstatic about McCain being the “presumtive” nominee? Good thing they are still “presuming” and don’t believe Huck will make a comeback and win it (but they do fear even the possibility of that, as evidenced by “myamphibian”).
Huckabee/Thompson defeats Obama/Edwards this November.
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Hillary would be even easier to defeat because:
1) More Dems despise Hillary than Republicans despise McCain.
2) No one knows more about the corruption left in the wake of the Clintons than Huckabee.
3) Huckabee ran against the Clinton/Democratic attack machine 4 times and won each time. This would be victory #5.
Get excited, conservatives. This is fun!
Huckabee/Thompson defeats Obama/Edwards this November. I said it 4 days ago when none of you believed me. Tomorrow at this time, many of you will believe me.
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 12:53 AM
I wasn’t inserting “evangelicals” into his post, I was inserting it into mine. I ended his quotes before my words. In my mind it would have been dishonest if I had included “evangelical” inside the quotation.
Note that:
and
are two diffent things. I said the latter.
It’s fairly clear to me, though, that the reason he’s referring to Huckabee as “smarmy” is exactly because Huck is evangelical. I’m not willing to fight you on that, though, so go ahead and call me dishonest.
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 1:13 AM
No. The Huckster is expected win Maryland and Virginia because all the moderates have gone over to the Obama/Hillary race. There’s no way in hell he’s going to win the nomination, and if McCain has any sense he won’t give him the VP slot either.
The Dems would destroy the GOP by airing these sort of devastating revelations all year.
But enjoy tomorrow while it lasts…
Pax americana on February 12, 2008 at 1:21 AM
Dude, take the chill pill.
hillbillyjim on February 12, 2008 at 1:30 AM
Let’s talk about faith just a little more…
Which candidate has the following on their web site:
Is that Mike Huckabee?
Nope. Barak Obama
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Everyone but this RedPill clown:
Consider the hilarious irony of the HotAir commentariat – myself included – whining about the intolerable liberalism of McCain, while Obama runs ads on Rush’s show, because he thinks he can actually get conservatives to vote for his pacifism-smoke-infanticide-mirrors-open borders-socialism platform.
Not to mention the clownish Huckabee gaining Mitt voters, as if…
Jaibones on February 12, 2008 at 2:24 AM
Sorry guys, but I am pulling for Huck at this point.
I want McCain the Liberal out of this completely.
Huck supports the Fair Tax, which is a huge plus, in my book.
Dave R. on February 12, 2008 at 4:04 AM
Voting for Huckabee has nothing to do with being a “true” Christian.
1) Definition of a Christian
2) Definition of a “true” Christian: #1 above comes first, and then this.
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 7:06 AM
Mitt voters will vote for Huckabee over any Democrat candidate in November. Count on it.
They may or may not support Huckabee before he wins the Republican nomination, but they will support him in the general election. Just like I would “hold my nose” and vote for McCain in the general election if he were the Republican nominee. Thank God (literally) that McCain won’t be the Republican nominee.
ITookTheRedPill on February 12, 2008 at 7:17 AM
ITookTheRedPill on February 11, 2008 at 10:37 PM
You do realize, I hope, that you are using the very same ranting tone as the muslims, as they try to convert the world to their particular fantasy?
OldEnglish on February 12, 2008 at 8:35 AM
Dibs on how long it’ll take her to resign her senate seat once either Barack or whomever the Republican nominee turns out to be when one of them defeats her?
Betcha anything that she resigns that senate seat within a month of losing and having to bow out.
Thoughts?
Shirotayama on February 12, 2008 at 10:09 AM
um, I think someone is not getting the drift of RedPill’s reasoning.
AverageJoe on February 12, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Red Pill,
Sorry dude. Can NOT ever vote for Huck. This will be a hard choice as I head to the Virginia polls on my way home from work this evening, to get my vote in before the polls close at 7:00 pm.
I’m all for deep faith, but placing the Bible OVER the US Constitution just leaves me with a queasy feeling.
Christ said to render unto God’s what is God’s and unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. To me, it speaks volumes as to what a divine visionary Christ really was during his earthly life, and how in tune with that teaching the US Founding Fathers really were when drafting the Constitution such that the US Government would not be allowed to establish an official national church, yet also not be allowed to interfere with the free exercise of faith.
To me, Christ’s statement above speaks to governmental issues having their own independent sphere to deal with earthly issues, and faith having its own independent sphere with dominion over issues of the spirit. Neither interferes with the other and both coexist naturally. It’s not the same as saying “clear-cut definition of separation of church and state”. Rather than “separation” being the liberals’ oft yet erroneously quoted focus, it is peaceful, non-interfering coexistence.
Maybe I’m misinterpreting Huck’s statements from a month or so ago, but frankly, considering the Constitution as amendable in accordance with any one faith’s definition of “God’s Law” makes the Constitution subservient to it. Perhaps many Evangelicals think this is a desirable matter of course, that man’s law should always be underneath God’s law. But when I read Christ’s statement, the message I get from it is that neither needs to be subservient to the other. One is material, the other is spiritual.
Perhaps my interpretation is wrong. But until I’m proven otherwise, Huck’s positions scare me enough for me to still nickname him “Hucka-bee-nejad”. I fully support the strengthening of faith in the US but do not want the US to become a theocracy like Iran.
Which is why I’d have a REALLY hard time voting for him, let alone the clemency, immigration, and taxation positions he’s taken in his past, which I still disagree with.
I hate that as a conservative republican, I have to go to the box and pick somebody to vote for, and hold my nose while doing it.
Lord, I sure wish this was 1980 and I could pull a lever for Reagan all over again…
Shirotayama on February 12, 2008 at 10:22 AM
You can. There is a real Reagan conservative in the race, appointed by and a protege of the great man himself. The hypocritical right wing blogs and media have tried to blackout his name. Vote Dr Alan Keyes for President.
Pax americana on February 12, 2008 at 2:15 PM
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