This War is about changing Islam, although no one will admit it. This War demands that Islam stop trying to kill those with whom it disagrees just because they are not “good Muslims”. And if the Religion of Peace will not police itself to do so, then WE (America) will do it for them, because civilization itself cannot suffer a return to the Dark Ages for ourselves or for the rest of the world.

For you who deny it is a clash of civilizations or a non-religious conflict, you ignore the vast amount of evidence to the contrary. Every symbol used by our enemies, every action which they insist on claiming is a victory (but which their participants view wholly as Defeat) is meant to be used only to change our minds and play on our feelings for poor helpless innocents, which the people of Iraq, and indeed, Muslims all over the world are most assuredly not. They refuse to protest the killing of innocent infidels anywhere. Such restraint in the killing of innocents is a rule of civilization. You don’t kill innocent people (here in the US or anywhere else in the world) unless you intend to be met with overwhelming violence and utter contempt as a result. The US is ready to accept that task, in a fashion far more humane and respectful of the lives of innocents than the enemies of civilization, and the radical adherents of Islam.

There is only one rule in determining who the enemy is. Either killing for your religion is wrong or it isn’t. Noncombatants either believe non-Muslims and Muslim collaborators should die, or they support the US tracking down and killing the killers of their own people. The vast majority of Iraqis now want the US to stay until they are strong enough to care for themselves. Americans, as usual, have been found to be the only fair and just people on the battlefield.

It is that example which will change Islam. Not the platitudes and protestations of imams who steal from their brethren with one hand, and lie to the US Army through their teeth. And there is NO ONE in the US who could have fought the war any better than it has been fought because only the circumstances you can affect can be managed. And in war, half of the conflict involves responding to how your enemies act after you act. The Iraqis were not ready to act civilized in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 or even 2007. They are now ready to accept civilized conduct again. That is the only factor which could change their minds. And it was changed because American soldiers fought hard, took casualties by being humane (not leveling all of Fallujah immediately and killing ANY Iraqi with a gun until they were all dead — if it worked for Saddam, it sure as H*ll would work for us, nimrods), killed our enemies in overwhelming numbers, demoralized our enemies, and persevered through our sterling example and dogged determination.

Victory is won by not surrendering. The Iraqis are finally surrendering because they see how living WITH us is better than fighting AGAINST us. They have finally begun to acknowledge their Defeat. And now progress towards their own Victory can begin.

Only a fool would think leaving now would be Victory. That, or a terrorist sympathizer. Nancy is more the latter than the former.

Subsunk

1. Too little, too late.
2. Point out the it hasn’t stopped the shooting and bombing
3. Deny the legislation was passed
4. Claim the Iraqi Parliament was elected by mostly Shia and Kurds and therefore anything they pass does not represent the will of the Iraqi people.
5. Come up with a new list of “benchmarks.”

I’m going with #2 or #5. They fit with the left’s MO of moving the goalposts when faced with defeat.

Kill jihadis whenever and wherever you can find them until they disappear from the face of the Earth.

That’s the war we’re in.

If they show up in Iraq, kill them there.

If the run from Afghanistan to Pakistan, kill them there.

Pu$$yfooting only delays the inevitable: killing jihadis.

The ROE have been the major mistake.

In short, letting them get away, by hiding in “mosques”, or skeedaddling “across the border” into [name your jihadi-harboring neighboring Muslim country).

Pelosi is a clueless crone.

Bush is a weak-kneed sucker.

Kill jihadis, or prepare for them to kill your Civilization.

Because their “holy” playbook is for an endless war to achieve a totalitarian theocratic terror state.

(Did I mention kill jihadis?)

profitsbeard on February 11, 2008 at 12:17 AM

We say, “War on Terror,” because we can’t say, “War on Jihad,” or “on Islamic…” whatever. We have ROE (Rules of EEngagement) because without them the moderate populace (not just politicians, but regular people) would not allow us to fight them at all.

The answer involves a change in popular thinking. There was some of this after 9/11, but it was limited and quickly removed by anti-American forces within America. The American people need to adopt a militaristic attitude. They need to have direct confrontation of enemies–not “negotiation,” “peaceful coexistance,” or any other capitulating idea–as their FIRST thought.

We need to drop the 1960s and ’70s “peace and love” perceptions of the world (liberalism, which has utterly infecting American and Western thinking), and “Me Generation” lazy self-centeredness (now big with Conservatives who sit on their lazy ***** instead of sacrificing for their causes), and turn ourselves and our country into the eternally hegemonous power it can and should be.

Drum on February 11, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Welcome back Nancy. You’re like a Whack-a-Mole.

If your wittle feelwings are hurt here, why do you keep coming back?

“I was being sarcastic. I was pretending to call you all of the things that I have been called for criticizing this war and its justification – Drum”

Sarcastic, pretending, tit-for-tat? Typical troll drivel.

How about we call you a disingenuous back-peddling hypocrite, who complains about being called names and then gets caught calling others names?

Ok have we had gains or not? How does she get away with saying no gains then in the next sentence says there have been gains?

One thing – quit calling me names. I’ve been posting here since HotAir’s inception and most know that I’m am by no means a “leftist Paultard.”

I was being sarcastic. I was pretending to call you all of the things that I have been called for criticizing this war and its justification. That’s why I followed it with “but seriously.” OK, so I’m no comedian.

I know you don’t agree with me. But speaking of political correctness, there is as much of that residing here at HotAir as there is at Kos. It’s just the Republican sort. Don’t question the war!

Well, at least they waited for it to actually be implemented before calling it a failure this time.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said twice Sunday that Iraq “is a failure,” adding that President Bush’s troop surge has “…

Nancy Pelosi declared yesterday that the war in Iraq was a failure and that the surge has “not …
Popularity: unranked [?]……

What are you some kind of leftist? Paultard? Read Michael Yon for christ’s sake!

Seriously, your guess is as good as mine and if John McCain has his way, we will be there for decades and they’ll be plenty more wars to disrupt the lives of millions.

This, my friend, is conservatism.

Drum on February 10, 2008 at 10:03 PM

One thing – quit calling me names. I’ve been posting here since HotAir’s inception and most know that I’m am by no means a “leftist Paultard.”

the United States
certainly didn’t go over and poke a stick in theirs eyes
to start this up,but hopefully,unlike McCains 100 year
comment the United States Military can speed up the union
and an unholy union at that of Jihads meets virgins!

canopfor on February 10, 2008 at 10:05 PM

I agree. But unfortunately in today’s politically correct climate, that’s just not going to happen. Therefore, I think my question is a valid one – how long do we go on with this? Until we bankrupt our country?

1) if they can somehow politically profit from success (nearly impossible since they’ve so loudly and so long called for defeat and declared it per AQ’s request)

2) if they cannot escape accountability/responsibility for the defeat (as in the case of a Democrat winning the WH)

…and I disagree with the idea that all Iraq needs is time. No. It needs unified support. With unified support, the enemy will see there is no chance of coming back, and they’ll move the fight to ground that’s better for them (Pakistan).

But there is also another important element to Iraq, and that is islam. To go from one repressive regime, the Baathists, to another repressive regime, shari’a law in their constitution, shows that handing a people Freedom on a silver platter is risky, especially without Iraqis or Afghanis willing to fight for it. If one has never known Freedom, one does not know how precious, and delicate, a thing it is. There comes a time when the Iraqis have to stand up on their own two feet, and that time is coming soon. They must make the choice to live in Freedom, or to live with militias and suicide bombers in their midst.

Pelosi and Reid should consider themselves lucky that Congress hasn’t been held to benchmarks, or we’d be kicking their butts out of Washington.

ctmom on February 10, 2008 at 8:22 PM

Actually…THAT right there should be THE GOP message for the general election:

The Dems Have FAILED.

Get the machine rolling, spend every cent reminding everyone who voted the Dems into power that the Dems have not accomplished anything at all, much less all the crap they promised. Spotlight Dingy Harry and The Wicked Witch of the West as the most inept congressional leaders of the most inept, do-nothing, congress in HISTORY.

See, no matter what happens, we’re going to get a POTUS who’s hostile to conservatives and the GOP in general. What we should be playing for now isn’t so much the White House as the congress. If McCain stumbles in, so be it, but odds are that it’ll more than likely be Evita or Obamma-mania. If we can regain control of congress, or at the very least close the gaps in the House and Senate, we can deny any of the possible POTUSes:

1. The ability to declare a mandate.

and

2. The ability to enact their most egregious policy projects, ie; Universal Health Care, Premature Withdrawl from Iraq, and Amnesty.

Support your local conservative GOP candidates for congress. If the incumbent was pro amnesty, support a challenger who’s against it, and bust your hump to get them the nomination now and the seat in November. Get out the vote if you live in a swing district. If you’re in a district that the GOP lost in ’06, get out there and get that seat back. No surrender. No retreat. No amnesty.

The troops fight the war over there. We owe it to them to fight the war over here.

Say what?

Drum on February 10, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Do you hear voices?

The PEOPLE want to be left alone by the governmet. Take a poll CNN FOX whoever and you will see.

Drum’s just … trying to stir the pot.

Absolutely! I won’t deny that.

That’s the war we’re in.

If they show up in Iraq, kill them there.

If the run from Afghanistan to Pakistan, kill them there.

Pu$$yfooting only delays the inevitable: killing jihadis.

The ROE have been the major mistake.

In short, letting them get away, by hiding in “mosques”, or skeedaddling “across the border” into [name your jihadi-harboring neighboring Muslim country).

Pelosi is a clueless crone.

Bush is a weak-kneed sucker.

Kill jihadis, or prepare for them to kill your Civilization.

Because their “holy” playbook is for an endless war to achieve a totalitarian theocratic terror state.

(Did I mention kill jihadis?)

Drum on February 10, 2008 at 11:45 PM

You might want to check out the article linked at this post. Then again, since you have your fingers in your ears and mush for your mind, you probably won’t.

Mallard T. Drake on February 10, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Drum’s just a clueless troll trying to stir the pot. Unfortunately for him, he’s being beaten down with facts and not just “our word”. If he had anything substantive he’d have played that card by now.

fogw on February 10, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Drum is playing the cs devan offense. He’s expounding on a position, but will not admit his back-up or his sources. We are just supposed to take it on his word. I don’t know if he is playing the true CSD offense or a modification. If Drum starts calling us “bigots,” then it is the true CSD offense.

House Minority Leader John Boehner appeared on the show after Pelosi, and said that she and the other Democrats are “in denial.”

See, here’s my gripe. Why not have the Boehner and the “botox belle” on at the same time to discuss the same issue! I’m sick and tired of this carefully scripted propoganda. Let Pelosi spout her nonsense and let Boehner call her a denier at the same time!

Oh, and BTW, why is WW II the measure of all wars’ timelines nowadays?. . . .

Lancer on February 10, 2008 at 11:18 PM

How come the libs and the Dims don’t push for withdrawing our troops from Bosnia? Why the time they have been in Bosnia is probably longer than WWI and WWII combined. Speaking of which, why dont’ the libs and Dims push for withdrawing our troops from Germany. Why, they have been there for almost 63 years longer than it took to fight WWII.

Could the Dims at least get creative enough to come up with a new meme.