Ron Paul to return home
posted at 2:02 pm on February 9, 2008 by Michelle
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He may not be formally pulling out yet, but Ron Paul is most definitely pulling back. Seems he’s feeling the heat in his home district. Time to cut back on the Alex Jones radio appearances, and focus more on his constituents back in Texas:
Presidential hopeful Ron Paul said he will not run as a third-party candidate in a new message to supporters that seems to recognize his slim chances at getting the Republican nomination.
The Texas congressman wrote on his Web site Friday that he is making cuts to his national campaign staff and that he must also stay focused on not losing the primary for his House seat.
Paul began Saturday with just 14 delegates for the Republican nomination that John McCain, with 719 delegates, has all but officially secured. Mitt Romney dropped out of the race Thursday, and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee has 198 delegates. A total of 1,191 delegates are needed to secure the GOP nomination.
“With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero,” Paul wrote. “But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get.”
Paul wrote that while he does not denigrate third parties he is committed to staying a Republican. His campaign supports low taxes and reduced government spending.
Paul’s latest entry on his Web site also included a request that supporters not neglect his other “priority,” which is making sure that the 10-term congressman remains in office.
Here’s the message on his campaign site, which opens with a quote from…Trotsky: “If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent.” And ends: “The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.”
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To bad the folks paying McVain’s salary didn’t tell him to come home also and “represent” his constituents.
Ahh, there’s still hope.
TOPV on February 9, 2008 at 2:05 PM
He’s quoting Trotsky?
Am I the only one who thinks Ron Paul would have been AWESOME in 1972?
emailnuevo on February 9, 2008 at 2:06 PM
You forgot:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_rLV-ZuNPwJ4/R6nUziADC0I/AAAAAAAAA_I/Vf9qzQGEERw/s1600-h/over-lution.jpg
lorien1973 on February 9, 2008 at 2:06 PM
You and your staff did your best to attack the Ron Paul supporters…but never his message of Liberty.
Good luck with McWarnongerer…
You reap what you sow…
Fed Up on February 9, 2008 at 2:06 PM
Two points:
1) Why would Senator McCain make that decision, clearly he ahd the winning strategy and will now win the nomination.
2) Hope for what? Are there still some McCain haters in the party that are so deluded as to think there as any chance whatsover that Senator McCain will not get the nomination?
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 9, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Congratulations,
AllahMichelle.amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 2:10 PM
I don’t know any haters, but there are a few deluded folks out here who think he might get smoked in the general. Something you may want to watch is the number of Republican Congressmen who suddenly decide to become lobbyists. Could be a tip off there may also be some deluded folks in Congress. But, I guess we knew that.
a capella on February 9, 2008 at 2:17 PM
What is it called, exactly, when war is brought to the US? Oh, that’s right…”conspiracy”!
JetBoy on February 9, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Ignore Ron Paul’s economic advice at our peril, people.
Ian on February 9, 2008 at 2:25 PM
It’s not necessarily his economic advice that’s opposed. It’s the fact that he’s an ignorant, conspiracy theory-supporting, bigoted isolationist.
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Shame, I kinda liked the guy, in a Ross Perot kinda way.
DMeNTe on February 9, 2008 at 2:26 PM
I hear the cries of the paulinians and the lamentation of his women….
William Amos on February 9, 2008 at 2:32 PM
What, returning to the gold standard? Hitching our economic wagon to the availability of any material is a moronic thing to do at this point, since it will increase economic instability rather than decreasing it. The reason, you may have guessed, is that advances in technology will soon cause even the precious metals to be used like any other commodity. We might as well have a wood standard, or cheese standard.
Big S on February 9, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Man can we ever be lucky enough to kick Paul out of congress ? Come on Texas do your duty !
William Amos on February 9, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Typical moRon Paultard, tell lies to support your neo-nazi truther racist candidate. Kind of like all of your claims of supporting the US Constitution which neither moRon Paultard nor his crazy followers ever read or understood if they did read.
doriangrey on February 9, 2008 at 2:33 PM
I would rather be periled by irnoring moRon Paultards economic advice than devastated by taking it.
doriangrey on February 9, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Bubba BlueRon Paul:Deety on February 9, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Who’s Warnon Gerer? Third party? Greenie?
fourstringfuror on February 9, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Man lawhawk still gets me laugh. On the LGF site about Ron Paul leaving
William Amos on February 9, 2008 at 2:42 PM
That would be Paul’s chronic indigestion.
fourstringfuror on February 9, 2008 at 2:47 PM
I agree with that. Here`s a question, do we want to keep him in Congress or kick him out altogether?
ThePrez on February 9, 2008 at 2:49 PM
The ideal route, I think, would be to kick him out. The likelihood of that happening, however, I’d think is slim.
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 2:54 PM
What we want is pretty irrelevant, the question is, why hasn’t the great state of Texas put his constitutes on clozapine therapy yet?
doriangrey on February 9, 2008 at 2:56 PM
McCain is the current delegate leader, but coming out of a brokered convention, the actual nominee will be Huckabee. I know you don’t belive me, but it’s going to happen and it’s going to be fun to watch. Huckabee was not my first choice. Fred was. But given the two options we have left, Huckabee is the better choice. The nomination is not over until it’s over. Just like the Super Bowl. Watch and see. Improbable? Yes. Impossible? No.
ITookTheRedPill on February 9, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Thanks for reminding me. I have to check the Auction House in World of Warcraft. I’m trying to complete the ‘of Valor’ set of armour. Look for Tupax the troll warrior – Venture company server.
Canadian Infidel on February 9, 2008 at 3:00 PM
So how much of that campaign warchest cash is Dr. Paul going to keep for “miscellaneous purposes?”
rEVOLUTIOn!
indythinker on February 9, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Maybe he can go pen some more racist newsletters during his time off.
NeoconNews.com on February 9, 2008 at 3:07 PM
he has a challenger, and I’d think after the last year he has been given a treasure trove of attack ads to use against Paul, with the icing on the cake being the newsletters. Some of those have been used against him in 1996, when he admitted to writing them, but not the same content that TNR uncovered. including the Solicitation letter which was full of whackery.
plus, according to his former aide, he always ran in the past in that district as a ’strong on defense’, ‘bush republican’….and would send out flyers to them like the dishonest one he sent to veterans in South Carolina. So to an extent, he’s been exposed.
jp on February 9, 2008 at 3:07 PM
also, he has a book coming out end of April to further his wealth from this campaign/cult. Title is, “Revolution: A Manifesto”
I wonder if he’ll be quoting Trotsky in it as well.
jp on February 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Thank god we got rid of Paul and are about to nominate the best candidate, a racist, ignorant, war loving candidate without knowledge of economics and whom wants open borders and less liberty.
/sarcasm
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Nice to see Huckabee supporters trying to out-crazy the Paul supporters. Really.
Hollowpoint on February 9, 2008 at 3:14 PM
@ NeoconNews.com on February 9, 2008 at 3:07 PM
As if he penned the original ones.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:18 PM
As opposed to Paul, an ignorant, racist isolationist.
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM
LOL!
racist candidate? put up or shut up. That is BS.
Pax americana on February 9, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Dude…
At the time he said he wrote them. They were written under his name, contained personal letters from his family, he acknowledged them, and he made a profit from them.
Even if he didn’t write them, he must’ve agreed with them.
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:22 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:20 PM
That was the point . . . You get all flustered over Paul, when McCain is absolutely no better, and if fact worse in a LOT of ways.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Worse how? He wants to protect America and realizes that isolationism doesn’t work?
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:26 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:22 PM
OR, he could have not known about them until after they were published, which is what is has said when confronted with the evidence. Whether you believe him or not is another story, and I am going out on a limb and guessing that you dont. I certainly hope you don’t give McCain the benefit of the doubt that you deprive from Ron Paul when he claimed “gooks” meant his prison gaurds when he said “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:27 PM
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of virgins suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
lorien1973 on February 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:26 PM
I get it, you don’t agree with Ron Pauls NON INTERVENTIONALISM, so you write isolationism. Its not isolationism. I have explained this to you specifically a dozen times. You obviously either dont understand the difference or are plainly trying to be an ass. I vote for both the former and the latter.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM
So ignorance. About how his own name was used; by people he knew. Truly commander in chief material!
lorien1973 on February 9, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. My first choice was not Huck, it was Fred. At this point, I honestly believe that Huck is a much better choice than McVain.
Now that it truly is a two-man race for the nomination, people in the remaining primaries and caucuses will look more closely at the choice between Huck and McCain. Huck is a much better choice. Who do you want picking your next Supreme Court justices? The leader of the Gang of 14, who called Alito “too conservative”? Or someone who will appoint more justices like Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, and Alito? It really is a very clear choice for any true conservative. And you think that is “trying to out-crazy the Paul supporters”? It’s not crazy at all. The nomination is not over until it’s over. Acting like it is already over is, in my opinion, what is truly crazy.
Even if I’m wrong, Huck staying in the race is a very good thing. It will keep McCain leaning right, as he fights for the nomination, rather than letting him swing back left thinking he’s got the nomination wrapped up (which he may do anyway, to his own detriment).
ITookTheRedPill on February 9, 2008 at 3:29 PM
@ Pax americana on February 9, 2008 at 3:21 PM
“I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”
-McCain
And don’t you DARE give him the benefit of the doubt, because you CERTAINLY wouldn’t give the same to Ron Paul.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Other than abortion; in what sense is huck “right” ?
lorien1973 on February 9, 2008 at 3:30 PM
in 1996 he admitted to writing them.
he paid his wife and daughter from the profits, so if he didn’t know and it was just his name. did his Wife and daughter not have any knowledge of the 17yr old business either, if so why were they on the payroll? Would his answer be tax evasion OR his wife and daughter are racist and he’s not?
any competent campaign will use this stuff and his Alex jones appearances and beat him over the head and out of politics with them. The ads write themselves.
jp on February 9, 2008 at 3:31 PM
@ lorien1973 on February 9, 2008 at 3:29 PM
If there were better candidates running, I would agree with you. I wish there was someone without all of his baggage. However, when looking at the alternatives, Mike “Jesus” Huckabee and John “liberal” McCain, not so many appealing choices.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:32 PM
They were published for quite a while. And if he didn’t agree with them or didn’t know, that just changes him to ignorant from bigoted.
Screw you. I’ve also had to explain to countless Paulians that Bin Laden doesn’t hate us because of our presence in the Middle East, and that we no longer have troops in Saudi Arabia. The U.S. has a “non-interventionist” policy right before WWII. How’d that work out?
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:33 PM
If Paul didn’t write the newsletters, then who did and why won’t he come forward?
Patrap on February 9, 2008 at 3:33 PM
@ Patrap on February 9, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Lew Rockwell. I thought we went through this all already. Why wont he come forward??? Do I really have to answer that question?
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Eric Dondero, Paul’s aide for 12 years that quit over Paul’s foreign policy and pandering to nuts, wrote this today about the newsletters:
jp on February 9, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Funny thing is, he specifically said he was referring to his prison guards. The actual, full quote:
You know, the people who tortured him so badly he can’t raise his arms above a certain height.
And I’d add that McCain apologized days later for even using the term.
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Yeah, personally I’d like the cheese standard…maybe a nice Wisconsin cheddar. Mmmm
Big John on February 9, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Just one example: Abolishing the IRS and instituting a Fair Tax.
How much time and energy do we as a nation waste doing tax returns?
Instituting a Fair Tax would do significantly more to boost our economy than the current “stimulus” package.
Soapbox:
Charitable organizations (like Mercy Ministries) do more good for people with 10% of my income than the government does with 30%.
/Soapbox
ITookTheRedPill on February 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:33 PM
We weren’t completely non-interventionalist before WWII, we supplied Britain with a bunch of supplies. But I would say it worked out pretty damn well. We were attacked by a rogue nation, we declared war, and we got the damn job done. We finished it in a few years, the entire nation was behind the war, there were no congressman who two years in were rallying against the war, and the economy boomed once it was over. I would say all the way around, pretty damn good show for non-interventionalism. Also, why do you think Bin Laden hates us? Because of our Ipods? Or is it because he is an irrational maniac that sees the US aid to Israel and US involvement in “his” region as more than it is, and who wants to end our existence? Or of course, its because he hates freedom, lol.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM
ZZZZzzzzz…
Captain Scarlet on February 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM
@ ITookTheRedPill on February 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM
The fair tax is utterly stupid. I would game the hell out of that system and it would be easy. There would be a black market of non taxable goods setup within hours of its passage.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:39 PM
He said that he supported going after AQ after 9/11… then followed it up by saying that instead we went into Afghanistan for oil and gas pipelines. Opposing the war in Iraq is one thing, but opposing taking action against the sponsors of 9/11? Isolationist and conspiracy theory nuttery.
Hollowpoint on February 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Fair tax isn’t workable. Face it. It’s not politically viable. No one would support it. The IRS and simplifying tax code is one thing, but the fair tax is an idiot’s gambit.
lorien1973 on February 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM
May 22, 1996 Dallas Morning News:
jp on February 9, 2008 at 3:42 PM
How about because a chunk of his philosophy is based on the teachings of Sayyid Qutb? Qutb’s teachings would become a chunk of the idealogical base for Al Qaeda and other groups.
One of Qutb’s students was Ayman Zawahiri, now second in command of Al Qaeda. Allow me to quote NPR:
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM
@ Hollowpoint on February 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM
He voted to take action as you said, so he didnt oppose taking action against the sponsors of 9/11. Nice try though.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM
@ jp on February 9, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Use context for once, WHICH columns does he refer to when he said that? You ASSUME it means all the columns, when in reality, it was a select few columns that were in discussion.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:44 PM
and he’s an advocate for a deflationary policy which is just as bad as inflation. being completely dependent on each year enough new Gold being discovered and horded to match Economic Growth, if that doesn’t happen then Deflation does.
We were on the Gold Standard during the Great Depression, alot of good that did. The real problem is govt. policies like the Hawley Tarrif Acts and other Protectionism.
jp on February 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM
God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed — when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women.
Osama bin Laden
But what would he know, he is only the guy who runs AlQaeda and who ordered the attack.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM
We weren’t completely non-interventionalist before WWII, we supplied Britain with a bunch of supplies.
If the isolationists of the time had had their way we wouldn’t even have done that. It was that internationalist Franklin D Roosevelt who insisted on it.
Ron Paul and his supporters would’ve been practicing their goosestep and their Nazi salute.
packsoldier on February 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM
@ packsoldier on February 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM
Would we have? I didnt realize Germany was close to invading the mainland USA.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM
And…you believe him. The same man who said we have two options: A) Keep dying, B) Give up our democracy. The man who claims those who die for him will get 72 virgins.
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:50 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM
We declared jihad against the US government, because the US government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal, whether directly or through its support of the Israeli occupation of the Prophet’s Night Travel Land [Palestine].
Osama bin Laden
Don’t see anywhere in here where it mentions our abilities to purchase short miniskirts and big screen televisions as motivation for him. Maybe I am just not reading BETWEEN the lines.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:50 PM
You do spout like some liberal tool. When my late uncle said he hated the japs for what they did to him as a POW he would have rightly clobbered anyone who smeared him as a racist. This is where living in blimpland takes you. Funny isn’t it that McCain doesn’t have half the white supremacists in america hanging on his coattails.
I should have noted that you were a Paultard and not taken the bait.
Pax americana on February 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM
I didnt realize Germany was close to invading the mainland USA.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Exactly! Can’t you see that WW2 and the whole Pearl Harbor thing was our fault. If we hadn’t been so self-righteous about the Jap invasion of China and tried to cut off their raw materials…Germany was no threat to us…ja, muyoso?
packsoldier on February 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:50 PM
BELIEVE HIM? They are his words. What does he have to gain with lying? He is loved throughout the muslim world, and hated throughout the rest of the world. Why would he lie? You are trying to twist the argument to first get me to say that I believe him, and then you will counter with the baseless accusation of “You agree with him, you said you believe him, you love Osama”, or something stupid like that. Just stop. He has said exactly why he hates us. YOU are sounding like a conspiracy theorist by not looking at his damn words and understanding them.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Well, one good result of Paul’s Presidential run is that now Texans can’t ignore the huge publicity his nuttiness has received and maybe they’ll vote him out.
James on February 9, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Maybe you’re trusting what a man that wants to slaughter you and your family says. Would you have bought Hitler’s propaganda, too?
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:53 PM
It’s no use. If he’s been supporting Paul this long he’s not going to see sense now.
Pax americana on February 9, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Im not going to argue with the paulies anymore they are as irrelevant as their guy is now.
Ron Paul will not be president and is fighting just to remain a congressman. He blew himself up in his own revolution.
William Amos on February 9, 2008 at 3:54 PM
@ Pax americana on February 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM
If you knew me at all, you would understand that I neither think McCain is a racist, nor Paul is a racist. I hate how much that word is thrown around. I was simply pointing out how EASILY people on here will throw it at Paul, but then when it gets applied, using their very same logic to a mainstream candidate, they will recoil and fight against it.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:55 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:53 PM
HAHAHA, you did EXACTLY what I said you would. Go back and read my post, GOD did I call you out.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:56 PM
@ packsoldier on February 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM
I love how your posts need no room for logic.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:56 PM
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:56 PM
That’s probably because I’m imitating your “logic” about America being at fault for 9/11.
packsoldier on February 9, 2008 at 3:58 PM
I said you agree with him and love him? Hm. Didn’t catch that part. I said you seem to be trusting his stated reasons for hating us, but maybe you could point out where I said you agree with and trust him.
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:59 PM
And then
HIlarious. I wonder how applying your logic, you could EVER come to a conclusion using ANY statements from anyone in the middleast as to why Bin Laden hates us? You surely trust Sayyid Qutb then right? I mean, you quoted him.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 3:59 PM
trustlove him.amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:59 PM
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Or are you trying to make a distinction between trusting what he says and trusting the man? Please tell me why I shouldn’t trust what he is saying as being accurate? Please tell me what he gains from stating what he has stated?
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Wished Ron would have held the mirror to the Republicans a littler longer, especially when we are on the cusp of a new “progressive” era. Just like the last one, which featured Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, we now have John McCain who is obsessed with Teddy Roosevelt and Barack Obama who is somewhat similar to Woodrow Wilson. Conservatism is dead for the time being, but that doesn’t mean we can’t complain and let our greviances be known.
I hate the fact that Ron used the “Permanent” Revolution quote. Permanent revolution has nothing to do with classical liberalism. All revolutions which aspire for permanent revolution fail. The Bolsheviks, the Nazis, Che, Al Qaeda, Globalists, and the Neoconservatives are all examples of people who aspire for permanent revolution. The goal is imperialism and tyranny and the justification is a foreign threat. James Madison wasn’t kidding. I would never want to be tied to any ideological school that asserts permanent revolution because they believe utopias are real and attainable. Conservatives and Libertarians are the opposite of these perverse ideologies because they are realists about human nature as it relates to power. Unfortunately there are many “conservatives” in name only that forget this or never knew in the first place, or appear to do so.
LevStrauss on February 9, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Sayyd Qutb wrote his reasons before OBL was even born and before jihad had been declared on America by al Qaeda. We know for a fact that Ayman Zawahiri was a student of Qutb, and he’s now second in command of Al Qaeda. We know that Qutb was a leading intellectual of the Muslim Brotherhood.
There’s also this:
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 4:04 PM
I corrected myself, making the quote “love” as your comment claimed I would say…which I didn’t.
Let’s see. Which rallies troops more:
A) We’re fighting America because it supports an invasion in our lands, killing our people!!!
B) We’re fighting America because they have green lawns (which Qutb actually criticized)!
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Please tell me what he gains from stating what he has stated?
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Just the sympathy (or at least apathy) of every Israel and America hater in the world. Including anti-Semitic/self-hating Americans on the far left AND far right. Like Noam Chomsky. Or Ron Paul.
packsoldier on February 9, 2008 at 4:06 PM
@ amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Thats nice. But we are trying to figure out this question:
“Why does OBL hate America?”
Now, you have some wonderful circumstantial evidence there. I have quoted him twice, with two admissions as to why he hates America. You are claiming that his words are wrong, and that for some reason they aren’t to be trusted, but have offered NOTHING in the way of why they arent to be trusted.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Muyoso, some of us do not care about our enemies’ self-justifications, except insofar as their self-justifications help us destroy them. No condemnation will cause us to allow ourselves to be harmed willingly, and no self-justification will cause us to spare the ones who want to harm us.
Kralizec on February 9, 2008 at 4:08 PM
@ packsoldier on February 9, 2008 at 4:06 PM
You show yourself to be very ignorant if you claim Ron Paul is an America hater. Just plain dumb. He is a veteran who is running for the presidency of the nation to make it better.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 4:09 PM
We’re ignoring the truly important question here (if anything connected to Ron Paul could ever be considered “truly important”), which is: What will happen to the blimp?
ReubenJCogburn on February 9, 2008 at 4:10 PM
I was shocked to hear Ann Coulter say at CPAC that she liked everything about him but his stance on the war….
AprilOrit on February 9, 2008 at 4:10 PM
jp on February 9, 2008 at 4:11 PM
@ Kralizec on February 9, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Nice throwing yourself into the conversation. This isnt about self justification. Its about trying to get to the bottom of why he hates America, a question I didnt bring up. Ask Amerpundit why he brought the question up. Amerpundit seems to believe its because we have nice things and freedom or something, which is the reason OBL hates us. I have quoted OBL’s own admission of why he hates us. I think its damn important to understand why an enemy hates you and wants you dead, to understand how to beat the enemy.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 4:12 PM
@ AprilOrit on February 9, 2008 at 4:10 PM
She is a smart conservative, who GASP, actually looks at people’s positions on issues instead of ruthlessly attacking their character.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 4:13 PM
I heard Coulter speak about 7 months ago or so, she said strongly she disliked paul and warned people away from him and if anyone wanted to hold the Paleo position, side with pat buchanan who does a much better and more honest job at representing it.
jp on February 9, 2008 at 4:13 PM
McCain says he opposes amnesty and wants the borders secured. Talk is cheap. Facts aren’t.
Fact: Sayyid Qutb traveled to the U.S. and came back with an immense hatred for materialism and overall Western culture.
Fact: Ayman Zawahiri, second in command of al Qaeda, studied under Qutb, learning his teachings.
Fact: While at university, bin Laden was inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood, of which Qutb was a leading scholar, as well as by Qutb and his brother themselves.
Fact: It’s easier to rally troops with claims of hating us because we’re invading and killing them.
amerpundit on February 9, 2008 at 4:13 PM
@ jp on February 9, 2008 at 4:13 PM
She, like many of us, have seen the alternatives and have come around greatly.
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM
No she hasn’t you moron, she is not a paul supporter. All she is said is some of his domestic policies are fine.
i guarantee you she thinks he’s an absolute idiot on the patriot act, terrorist surveillance, “empire” rhetoric, etc.
jp on February 9, 2008 at 4:16 PM
muyoso on February 9, 2008 at 4:09 PM
Stop changing the subject. I just gave you an answer about Osama’s stated rationale. He is appealing to the sympathies and prejudices of the useful idiots in the West.
Osama doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the Palestinians. He’s got a bigger ax to grind. He knows that America is the biggest obstacle to a global caliphate.
packsoldier on February 9, 2008 at 4:16 PM
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