What’s next for Romney?
posted at 11:10 am on February 8, 2008 by Bryan
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In dropping out of the GOP race Thursday, Mitt Romney showed a great deal of class and a flair for the dramatic. But what’s next? In particular, if he really does see 2008 as 1976, what does he have to do to convince conservatives that he could be the next Reagan?
Mitt Romney is not the next Ronald Reagan, at least not yet. That’s not a personal criticism of him, it’s just a reflection of the fact that Reagan spent a good 30 years prior to 1976 studying and speaking out on the Communist threat, he spent two terms as the governor of the country’s most populous state, and built and led a movement that was always larger than himself. Reagan was always about the battle of ideas and moving the country away from big government and toward smaller government. In a serious way, Reagan led an ideological war against Communism that culminated the year after he left office, when the Berlin Wall came down. There is no analogous political figure on the scene today, who has spent decades studying the threat we face now from al Qaeda and its ideological allies. There just isn’t. We shouldn’t kid ourselves that there is and no one at this point has earned Reagan’s mantle.
But we also shouldn’t drown ourselves in sorrow and settle for less for all time. We have to settle for less this year, but I mean for the future, we shouldn’t just assume that crossover acts like McCain will own the party forever. They won’t, unless we let them, and the end states of two triangulators in a row — Clinton and Bush 43 — show that while such politics may benefit those who practice them, they tend to destroy political parties and movements. The next successful conservative movement president, the next Reagan if there is to be one, won’t be a triangulator. So where and how can Mitt Romney figure into all of this?
If Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee or any of the other contenders wants to be the next Reagan, they will have to earn it. It won’t and shouldn’t be handed to them. It’s clear after the GOP primary’s outcome that a majority of the party faithful didn’t prefer Romney. The majority actually didn’t prefer anyone, but has settled on John McCain. It remains to be seen whether McCain can unite the party under his banner, and I think he has his work cut out for him on that.
As for Romney, he has already been a governor and he has the public sector and private sector work on his resume plus a personal fortune that made him a top tier candidate. He has no personal baggage to drag him down, save the Mormon issue, and he went a long way toward neutralizing that in this campaign. There isn’t much benefit to him returning to elective office or entering any presidential cabinet unless he is taking on a clear challenge or mission. Knocking off Senator John Kerry would be nice, but would also make him just one among 100 and limit his maneuverability.
What Romney doesn’t have and never really established is his conservative bona fides (the same goes for Huckabee, for that matter, whose social conservatism is solid while he lacks on the economic and national security fronts). Romney won endorsements from credible sources, but the voters either didn’t warm to him personally or didn’t trust him philosophically because he hasn’t always stood on the same side of many issues. From an organizational and personnel point of view he ran a great campaign, but from an ideological and emotional point of view he never made the deal. That’s the bad news.
The good news for him is that he has a few years in which the conservative mantle is up for grabs. No one owns it or has earned it. It could be his if he chooses to earn it. Reagan changed his positions on some issues over time, so it’s not the case that an honest change of mind is permanent political poison. It’s not. But Romney has to prove that where he is now is where he will always be and that he’s a studied and worthy leader.
Depending on the outcome this fall, Romney either has 4 or 8 years to prove that he is in his ideological home for good. To do that, we’ll need to hear from him through the years. Reagan didn’t go away after 1976. He stayed active and kept ready for 1980.
Romney’s personal wealth gives him an advantage over a Mike Huckabee when it comes to establishing himself as a conservative center of gravity. He can and probably will hold summits with fellow conservatives, maybe his own version of Restoration Weekend or even a kind of CPAC, but he should also stay active in events and groups like that that already exist. Build your own but not at their expense to expand the conservative movement’s arsenal rather than create factions and fissures. He can use his wealth to engage in entrepreneurial conservatism, by building or publicly supporting new media alternatives to the Soros-backed MoveOn, Media Matters and the like. And he can also continue to generate more money for the conservative cause through private enterprise and personal persuasion.
But over and above that, he has to show conservatives that he’s engaged in the battle of ideas personally and not just throwing money at them. He has to study up, in a serious and patient way, on the jihadist threat, the broader security threat environment including the role that border insecurity plays not only in terrorism but in violent crime, drug and human trafficking and identity theft. And he has to show that his social conservatism wasn’t forged out of convenience.
As a late convert to the conservative cause, he may be in the best position of any prominent Republican to make the case that conservative ideas on national security and the jihadist threat, sound economics and conservative social policies are the way to go. Converts are more likely than lifelong believers to become zealots and advocates in the best sense, by exuding the passion and explaining the ideas that persuaded them to switch. Ronald Reagan, whom we all regard as the uber Republican now, started out his political life as a Democrat. He became the most effective Republican against Democrats, in part because he loved conservative ideas, and in part because he could explain those idea better than anyone else, and in part because as a former Democrat Reagan knew what made them tick. He might not have won in 1980 without the “Reagan Democrats,” and he certainly wouldn’t have been as effective without peeling natural conservatives away from the increasingly leftist Democrat party.
So if Romney wants to be Reagan 2.0, he’ll have to earn it. It will take hard work and require patience. The good news for him is, he probably can. He is a sunny optimist, a strong speaker, a telegenic presence and a financial wizard. But he has to show that he has and will always have a conservative soul.
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Forget Reagan 2.0. Let him prove he is Romney 2.0.
Spirit of 1776 on February 8, 2008 at 11:16 AM
Mitt’s better positioned than anyone to assume the leadership of the GOP in the next few years that has frankly been missing since RR. Good lord, I hope he takes it (regardless of whether or not Maverick is POTUS.)
Sugar Land on February 8, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Maybe he should make the rounds to the conservative talk radio shows (with the exception of Hugh) — notably Laura Ingraham and Rush — and ask why it was that with only a week or less before Super Tuesday they at last (and too late) began to openly praise him? Dang, Ingraham’s CPAC intro was embarrassing. She was calling him completely conservative, the only conservative, bla bla bla. Where was all that praise and admiration last month?
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 11:17 AM
I don’t think Romney will ever overcome those video clips from 2002 and earlier. I think he needs to just go back into business and recoup the part of his sons’ inheritance that he spent on this race.
We need a genuine movement leader to step up in 2012, and that’s not Romney because of his damningly passionate past statements in favor of “a woman’s right to choose” and other such apostasies. Don’t know who our Great Hope for 2012 is yet, but we should start by looking closely at current and former Republican governors and by supporting the new ones like Palin and Jindal who show so much promise.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Here’s what I’m thinking. Mitt has suspended his campaign so he can continue to receive funds. McCain drives a wedge into the Conservative party and loses to Hillary or Obama. We suffer four years of liberal hell and then Romney comes to our rescue in 2012. McCain will then be a two-time loser and Romney will have the funds and support of very angry conservative to win back the white house and congress in 2012.
cannonball on February 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM
You may be right about that. Time will tell.
Bryan on February 8, 2008 at 11:19 AM
I agree with your assessment. Assuming the likely outcome of McCain losing in the general, I think Romney should spend four years working for the conservative cause and he will be the likely nominee. If McCain wins, and doesn’t ask him to serve in some manner, if I were him, I’d just move on to something else interesting.
Spirit of 1776 on February 8, 2008 at 11:21 AM
“There is no analogous political figure on the scene today, who has spent decades studying the threat we face now from al Qaeda …”
Political figure, no, but we do have a certain Mr. Robert Spencer!
Spencer 2012!
Tony737 on February 8, 2008 at 11:21 AM
One of the best you’ve written, Bryan.
RushBaby on February 8, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Excellent write-up, Bryan. Best I’ve read anywhere. Bravo!
Connie on February 8, 2008 at 11:24 AM
I agree. Look at the man most people regarded as the “conservative” they wished to run–Newt. Newt has stayed active, though he’s gone the way of the Lib recently (and thereby forfeited his claims).
What made Reagan great was he made more conservatives through powerful preaching of conservative messages. Romney will need to do the same. The man probably has more overall ability than Reagan did in many ways (and conversely, Reagan had more political skills than Romney)-especially in learning and comprehending massive amounts of information. He’s just a political neophyte, though. If he can synthesize all of this into his hard-learned political lessons, plus keep his name out there… I think 2012 or 16 will be his.
The man is a literal genius–you’d never get the “dumb republican” theme with him. That’s something we on the right haven’t had for a long time. If he can work on being more of a people person than a corporate guy, he’ll be fine.
And he’s moving in that way–some of his last speeches were his best.
I agree, if Romney starts to work energetically building up a true conservative media alternative(and if he dumps a lot of his money into it), he will create enormous good will in the party.
Vanceone on February 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM
On the one side, I would like to see Mitt be the VP for McCain, just in case McCain *strokes out* during one of his famous tantrums.
But on the other side, I want Mitt to stick a finger in McCain’s eye.
Either way… Mitt 2012!!
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM
I think he should follow Al Gore’s lead, go pound a couple of 12-packs with Bon Jovi, gain a ton of weight and grow a beard… perhaps go into concert promotion part time… maybe make a film about the dangers of compact fluorescents.
saint kansas on February 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Romney’s huge loss in the South shows he is still not trusted as a conservative. He needs to spend the next 4 years as a public crusader for conservative causes. Then he will earn the trust of conservatives.
Valiant on February 8, 2008 at 11:27 AM
I totally agree and tried to express something like this in an earlier comment. Your analysis is much better and more thorough. I think he should spend the next 4 years writing, speaking, and studying on the jihad threat, economic policy, and social conservatism. Then, when he runs again, he can run with passion on issues that he has publically championed for several years. He has shown that he is intelligent, motivated, and a good speaker. He needs to harnass that in the next four years.
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM
I think Romney’s a long shot in 2012/2016 unless he absolutely works for it. He needs to reform his positions to something like the way Thompson had. I think Thompson’s statements on conservatism and basic liberty would go a long way with Romney speaking them. It’s too bad Fred! couldn’t pull that off, but Romney runs a much better campaign, so maybe that will count for something.
John_Locke on February 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM
I have faith Romney will be here in 2012. He will have already made a name for himself so getting his name out won;t be much of an issue and he should be able to gain more traction. I also have faith he won’t be changing his position on abortion as you’re either for or against. Rarely does someone flip-flop-flip. (Except Kerry)
I think he will look really good to more people especially after a recession, if that’s to be.
Geronimo on February 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Time to start developing the Republican “farm team”. You just can’t wake up, look around and say I think these three or four are good guys, let them run and see who is standing.
Training, grooming, coaching, supporting,(with the right candidates) that’s how you win the big game.
right2bright on February 8, 2008 at 11:29 AM
By the way, you should send this to someone close to Romney so he can read it! I’m sure he’s looking for our advice right now! ;-)
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 11:30 AM
Yes,yes! I don’t know enough about the inside political game to know how this is done, but I feel strongly that it has been neglected by the Republican party for far too long.
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM
This is exactly it. Romney is rich. Period.
I’m not sure the Republican Party establishment is capable or willing any longer to recognize a conservative. (And I don’t mean Ron Paul.)
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM
For months people claimed he to be a flip flopper (many on this site) now they think he is the next coming.
There is a saying “Party Trumps Person” it applys now more than ever.
Obamba= Driver licences for illegals
Obama/Clinton = Socialised healthcare
Obama/Clinton = Retreat in Iraq
Obama/Clinton = Al Qaeda win
Obama/Clinton = Taxes
On and on and on
Need I day more
KBird on February 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM
As a footnote to Mr. Juan McCain:
NO VOTE FROM THIS CONSERVATIVE UNTIL JUAN HERNANDEZ IS G-0-N-E FROM HIS CAMPAIGN.
And I MEAN GONE… not just pushed on to the back burner -out of sight.
Secondly- You MUST appoint a R-E-A-L Conservative as VP. (i.e. Ensign, Sandford, Pence,…) Otherwise I will write in someone other than YOU. You do not deserve this nomination.
stenwin77 on February 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM
I agree on bringing up a new generation, but disagree with the idea that Romney’s videos will always haunt him. If they do, that will be a shame, because we’ll become the party of true believers that doesn’t accept converts into our midst.
If we reject someone like Romney, who has come over to the conservative side of issues, what does that say to the moderates and blue dog Democrats who may be ripe for the picking, so to speak?
We have to be better as a movement, I think, at allowing people to change their minds without instantly throwing a label on them that sticks forever.
Slublog on February 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM
“Depending on the outcome this fall, Romney either has 4 or 8 years to prove that he is in his ideological home for good.”
Whoa, wait a minute. What’s that suppossed to mean? That if McDole wins, Mitt has to wait for TWO terms? Forget that, he should run against McCain in the primaries again because Mac is not gonna be very popular and mayl be easy to pick off, I doubt he’d win re-election or if he’d even run at his age. I hope he picks a young conservative for VP and then promises to only serve one term. Then maybe I’ll vote for him.
Tony737 on February 8, 2008 at 11:34 AM
There will NEVER be another Ronald. Period!
As much as I would love for it to happen, there is absolutely no way unless we clone him and there is no way to know if it may have the same presonality as the first R.R.
We have crap to decide. I am not happy with the results of the people we have to choose now, but I will choose them over some liberal demo anyday… even if I have to swallow hard to vote.
upinak on February 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Like Moses, Romney may benefit from 4 to 8 yrs wandering around in the desert. With that said, conservatives shouldn’t just assume that Romney is going to be the ideal choice for 2012 or 2016. Republicans are blessed with a growing number of young conservatives who could easily grow into the mantel of Reagan. Romney has to earn his right to lead the movement by becoming it’s primary spokesperson AND by demonstrating through actions how conservatism is the best answer. In other words, we MUST rally behind the man or woman who spends the next four years walking the path, not talking about it.
Gartrip on February 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM
Another excellent post by Bryan.
Here is what many people tend to forget:
For years, Ronald Reagan spent much time studying and analyzing ideas long before he became President in 81. And he left an audio legacy that left no doubt in people’s minds that Reagan was a passionate, true conservative.
When Reagan spoke about communism, people knew from his audio legacy that Reagan hated communism.
We all know that John McCain is not a conservative.
He is not even a Goldwater conservative.
Prior to this election season, many doubted if Mitt was a conservative or not.
What Mitt needs to do is to borrow the Reagan playbook, and read and do further study and really begin to champion the core ideas of Conservatism.
ColtsFan on February 8, 2008 at 11:38 AM
I concur. I think his past would be, and has to some degree by the rallying of conservative radio, made irrelevant by 4 years of work on the behalf of conservative values. Similar to Reagan – who cares that Reagan was a Democrat? Find me a conservative that holds that against him.
As you say, they are different men with different strengths. If Romney can bring his to bear for the conservative cause, he can be a tremendous asset.
Spirit of 1776 on February 8, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Since he lives in Mass. and you need to be left of center to win any race in that State, Mitt will have another epiphany on abortion, insult Reagan again, and go back to doing what he does best — pretending to be what his targeted voter’s want him to be. If he runs for national office again, he will repackage himself not as the rock ribbed conservative, but as some moderate technocrat. He learned a very expensive lesson this year. The Rebubbakins down South will not vote for him no matter how conservative he claims to be.
tommylotto on February 8, 2008 at 11:39 AM
I don’t think he should take the veep, because going with McCain doesn’t give him anything. McCain won’t win anyway and it taints his conservative convictions which is already a problem for him.
I like Mitt, a lot, he can do it, in 4 years.
tlclark on February 8, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Amazon also has the audio legacy of the “Great Communicator” on CD. I highly recommend them.
ColtsFan on February 8, 2008 at 11:41 AM
Remember, people, Reagan used to be a DEMOCRAT. The fact that Romney has grown and moved from the dark side to our side is a GOOD thing. Through all the debate, no one, not once, ever, has shown me a bonafide flip flop. (Flip: changing your position. Flip flop: changing your position AND changing it back, showing you change your position to pander to an audience.) A flip flop is a world apart from a flip…however the dumbed down population just doesn’t seem to get that because the terms are too similar.
ANYWAY – we need to spend our time and energy on CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS. The presidency is lost, McCain will not win.
Perhaps if Romney or Michael Steele was RNC Chairman, we might actually be able to hold onto some freedoms when our new democratic overlords take power.
JustTruth101 on February 8, 2008 at 11:42 AM
I think he has that, but oddly it doesn’t show through in debates and on TV. I was working on installing the network infrastructure in a certain civil service project in Mass that will go unnamed (not for fear of incriminating myself, but for fear of embarassing myself). Mitt had just been innagurated and he was touring the project soon after. He walks into the control center and you could feel the guy’s charisma. I didn’t get to talk to him, but I was impressed.
If he can translate the intangable something he has when he’s face-to-face with people into real media presence, I think he’ll do really well next time. He seems to be “getting it” with these latest speeches, unfortunately it’s a bit too late in this go-around.
I still blame Huckleberry for a lot of Mitt’s problems. If he hadn’t started spewing his anti-Mormon crap, I really think Mitt would’ve been able to beat McCain.
crazy_legs on February 8, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Reagan was always a thinker, the presse’s attempts to paint the opposite notwithstanding. Romney’s only thoughtful moment in this campaign was his relgion speech, and I venture he didn’t write it. Reagan wrote and thought his whole life. Moreover, he took conservatism seriously and not as a vehicle for self-aggrandizement.
There was a National Review debate in the late 70s about the Panama Canal, that had Reagan and someone else on one side, and the great James Burnham on the other. Reagan completely held his own and was relying upon true conservative theory to back up his points. He thought on his feet and was engaging (and not a little formidable).
There is no one in the Party presently making this sort of impression (if there is, they are not getting the exposure they deserve). None of the present candidates have anything going for them if making the world a better safer and freer and more conservative place to live is what concerns us.
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 11:44 AM
I can’t emphasize this enough: If McCain wins the general, we will be stuck running his VP in 2012 or 2016 when McCain’s done. He will get to essentially hand-pick the guy we’ll be obligated to run in the next round. Romney could work his hiney off and spend his entire fortune for the next four to eight years promoting conservatism and his cred as a conservative leader, and it won’t make a bit of difference in his next bid for the White House if McCain’s in the picture. Despite Mitt’s fine words about the war and the good of the party and the country, Mitt better hope McCain doesn’t win the presidency or his (Mitt’s) political hopes are gone forever.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Great work, Bryan. I agree whole-heartedly.
Reagan got started by talking about the evils of the communist threat. Maybe Mitt should continue to talk about the evils of radical jihadism. He could team up with true moderate, peaceful Muslim organizations like Dr. Zuhdi Jasser’s American Islamic Forum for Democracy. He could help bring the moderate Mulisms whom denounce radicalism to the forefront. Now, peaceful Muslims that do not subscribe to the totalitarian ideals are afraid of speaking up for fear of retribution by the radical Islamists. Mitt could work to break that fear down so that Muslims would not be afraid to call out individuals and organizations that do not support the ideals of freedom and liberty for ALL people.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 8, 2008 at 11:45 AM
aero on February 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM
I suppose you believe that people never change core beliefs no matter how long ago they changed. Gee, I’m glad I can still be held to things I did and said 50 years ago that were absolutely wrong. Oh well, c’est la vie.
Aero, when you reach the grand old age of 25, look back at what you thought was correct and right when you were 13, if you have the ability to remember that far back.
belad on February 8, 2008 at 11:46 AM
I agree and I also think that Mitt has to roll up his sleeves and spend a lot of time in the next 4 years on the ground in hostile territory like rural Georgia and South Carolina. There are a lot of auto-manufacturing plants here. That would be a good place to start.
For instance, he needs to fight this carbon tax with every fiber of his body – an issue which appeals to conservatives in general, but can also appeal to blue collar workers, and farmers who have to fuel their equipment.
He has to demonstrate that he has specific solutions which will benefit them directly while still staying faithful to conservative economic ideals and rejecting Socialist solutions.
Hopefully in his case familiarity would not breed contempt but would engender goodwill.
Buy Danish on February 8, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Excellent article Bryan- as someone who’s frequently criticized Romney as a candidate I very much agree.
His recent moderate past and views hurt him this election because his adoption of conservative views only came on the eve of an election campaign- I felt that we had no way to know whether those views were truely his or those of his advisors trying to win an election. If he is somehow able to put himself in a position where he’s able to convincingly demonstrate that he really is a conservative and not simply playing one on the campaign trail, he could have a bright future in the Republican party.
That said, he still needs to be reformed regarding the role of government- even with his professed fiscal conservativism, he positioned himself as another “big government conservative”, and another of those we definitely don’t need.
Hollowpoint on February 8, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Maybe it’s me but I usually have a hard time even remembering who the losing candidates were in past presidential races, (unless they make an ass of themselves like Kerry).
So I don’t think Romney’s the great conservative hope for the future. Also, I don’t think he ever overcame the Mormon issue. The southern baptist vs. mormon issue was exposed to me and came as news. I doubt it would cease to be an issue for Romney next time around.
JiangxiDad on February 8, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Romney probably did as well or better than he expected for a first run at the presidency.
Now it is time for him to work in the trenches establishing his conservative cred until he can return to beat Obama in 2012.
Which, after 4 years of O’barassments, won’t be too hard.
The wilted “change” blossom will stink by then.
profitsbeard on February 8, 2008 at 11:51 AM
His campaign said he wrote that speech himself.
Spirit of 1776 on February 8, 2008 at 11:52 AM
If Mitt wants to become Reagan-like he should do what Reagan did. Spend a year or two going from town to town meeting and speaking with groups of ordinary Americans just like Reagan did during the GE years. Mitt lakes the common touch and that will allow him to develop it. He’ll learn more by doing this than hanging around with fellow HBSers or Party activists. Reagan was first and foremost a man of the people. He governed by going directly to the people over the heads of Congress or party heads.
TheBigOldDog on February 8, 2008 at 11:53 AM
That attitude isn’t helping with party unity. Y’all need to quit writing off the South as dumb hicks. I was perfectly happy to vote for Romney, and we all love Reagan who was not a Southern either.
Don’t forget that if you decide that Southerners are too stupid to be in your party, then you are left with all those brillant blue staters. Have fun with that!
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 11:54 AM
There are several downsides to Mitt that I don’t believe are correctable. He comes across as a politician first above all else, and that detracts from his believability. His ‘conversion to the conservative cause’ coincided with his political ambition; it will never be taken as seriously as a conversion before political ambition.
And, sadly, the Mormonism issue will not be going away; that was clear based on his performance in the South.
michaelo on February 8, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Respectfully, I was at a campaign stop, and he is AWESOME on the stump. The press just wouldn’t broadcast it. Even fox was in the tank for McCain.
JustTruth101 on February 8, 2008 at 11:55 AM
The two are not even comparable. Reagan emerged from the age of Roosevelt — who wouldn’t have been a Democrat after that?!
But Reagan, again, was a thinker, but most importantly, he loved liberty.
There are some conservative historians who think the the Soviet Union was destined to collapse even without the Cold War, and they mocked Reagan’s anticommunist rhetoric. The SU’s destiny is arguable, but what is not arguable in my opinion is that Reagan’s rhetoric gave hope to the average person oppressed under communism.
We have no one today willing to be blatantly open about world oppression under Islam or Marxist tyranny. Indeed, there is an article today on HotAir Bush’s kissing the a**es of Palestinian terror groups.
If Romney believes in the relgious freedom his speech talked about, why wasn’t he outspoken about religious oppression throughout the world, especially in Muslim countries?
If fanatical Islam is our generation’s communism, then we will have to have a figure who is willing to address it the way Reagan addressed communism if we want to succeed. This goes beyond threatening to bomb this country or that, or calling it “fascism,” or whatever. It means directly addressing the people and leaders of those nations and challenging them to knock off the bullsh*t, the way Reagan did.
Not one of our leaders today is willing to do that.
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Bingo. He can work with party activists, but he must get his boots on the ground.
Those abilities and his formidable energy are very impressive to me.
Buy Danish on February 8, 2008 at 11:57 AM
These are good points, Slu. Reagan was a Democrat and didn’t understand that Communism was a threat when he was a young man. The South became a Republican stronghold because the Democratic party moved away from their principles and they switched to the Republican side. Many of their congressmen switched parties, not knowing how that would effect their political careers. Bush, Sr. did that, as did Phil Gramm. We need to continue to welcome converts as the Democratic party moves more left.
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Well, then good for him. It certainly was impressive. He should take that and improve on it and extrapolate it outward to other nations suffering under religious oppression, and appeal to those who feel the same.
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 11:58 AM
I’m sure he was, but it does not come across. He needs to pull a Reagan or a Gandhi and travel the back roads of America and get close to the ground. Then, he’ll be unstoppable because he’ll have the ability to talk directly to real Americas.
TheBigOldDog on February 8, 2008 at 11:59 AM
I agree with that, but would also ask those in southern states to be more open to the idea that good politicians can come out of so-called “blue” states. After all, how many times did we hear people question his conservative bona fides not because of what he’s said, but because of where he was from?
Of course, I’d like to see the focus on regional differences fade a bit, so that’s my particular bias.
Slublog on February 8, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Exactly what I was saying. He needs to bring this quality into the debates and broadcasted appearences. He has it, he just needs to learn how to project it into a hostile environment.
Really, in the New Hampshire WMUR debate, I thought he and Fred were the only adults in the room.
crazy_legs on February 8, 2008 at 12:00 PM
The Education of Ronald Reagan: The General Electric Years and the Untold Story of his Conversion to Conservatism
Evans respectfully traces Reagan’s change from New Deal liberal to economic conservative to his eight-year stint (1954–1962) as spokesman for General Electric, when he hosted GE’s Saturday night television show, General Electric Theater, and toured GE plants nationwide. It was on tour that Reagan delivered early drafts of the 1964 pro-Goldwater “time for choosing” speech that would eventually thrust him onto the national political scene.
maybe I’ll send him the book….
TheBigOldDog on February 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM
We will be begging for Romney by 2012, if were still around…
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Romney’s contradictory statements were just five years ago, belad.
Of course people can change, and I can support them if I believe the sincerity of the change. I supported Reagan, and I would have supported Phil Gramm if he had made it out of Iowa when he ran for prez (Gramm was my senator, an economic genius, a fiscal conservative, and recent convert from the Democrat party). I would also support Romney if he could effectively convince me that his conversion is sincere or that his conversion to liberal ideals was anything other than political expediency (which implies that his conversion back to conservative ideals is also nothing more than political expediency). Changes like Reagan’s and Gramm’s took political courage, though. In contrast, Romney’s were a matter of (perceived) expediency.
Even my father was once a Democrat and changed to voting Republican with Reagan. He’s been a staunch conservative ever since. So I absolutely believe in the possibility of sincere and total political awakening and conversion.
But my point was not actually about me personally and how I feel about Romney’s political conversion. It was a statement that I think conservatives in general will not get over those 2002 video clips of liberal Romney in action. The base, particularly the one-issue abortion voters, has hardened since Reagan. Such apostasies are harder to overcome than they used to be. Regardless of whether I, or even 100% of the conservative blogosphere, can be won over to Romney in the next couple of years, is irrelevant. We’re too small a portion of the voting public to matter. I’m just saying that he’s unlikely to rise to the top as our Great Conservative Movement Leader because the conservative base in general is simply tired of getting screwed by RINOs who say what they need to say to get elected and then turn on the base as soon as they set foot in the Oval Office. I don’t see Romney overcoming that stigma in the next two years. Remember that if McCain loses the general, our next candidates will have to be queued up and ready to run as early as 2010 with the new early entrance requirements and frontloaded primary season.
By the way, I’m 38 and have been voting conservative the entire 20 year since I have been able to vote. Are you a new commenter here? If you had been around awhile, I would think you’d have gotten the idea that I’m a mature and well-informed political observer. Your attempt to insult me was petty and uniformed.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM
True, although I think Byron York is right about Romney’s problem (and our Bryan said essentially the same thing). It’s not just that Romney was a “Yankee”, it’s that he was from Massachusetts. That’s the epitome of liberalness, after all. My first thought about him was “how can he really be conservative if he was governor of Massachusetts?”
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Reagan came out of California, but maybe California was much less blue in those days?
Maybe Mitt should sponsor a NACAR driver :)
Buy Danish on February 8, 2008 at 12:06 PM
It may seem that way now, but perceptions can change drastically with the passage of time, and even moreso with 4 or 8 years of President Obama or Hillary.
Mitt needs to read the book “Reagan In His Own Hand” to see what RR was up to during the period between 1976 and 1980.
thirteen28 on February 8, 2008 at 12:06 PM
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Buy Danish on February 8, 2008 at 12:07 PM
What the American people are waiting for is a conservative who shouts something more creative than “war war war!” Reagan never talked about bombing the Soviets — the idea was too horrifying. But, he did make it clear that we were militarily capable of doing pretty much anything we needed to to fight them.
I was completely against the stupid wars we fought (or funded) in Central America, but what I was not against was Reagan’s vocal anticommunism and his continually challenging the communist status quo in Europe and Asia. This gave encouragement to people in those countries and thus put pressure on the governments to change. Moreover, America set an fairly decent example at home of what ordered liberty might look like.
Jeez, remember Reagan’s anti-abortion book? Which candidate is willing to be that controversial today?
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM
Solid assessment overall. Poor choice of words regarding his Mormonism. The “baggage” is being carried by religious bigots in this country, not by Mitt.
CliffHanger on February 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM
The point is not that there is something wrong with the South, it’s that Mitt will never be the favorite son of the South. They might vote for him over a less attractive alternative, but the South will always gravitate to a Huck or a Fred. It’s not that the South is dumb (I grew up in TX), its that they are not attracted to formerly liberal, now allegedly conservative technocrats like Mitt. Mitt thought he would win the South if Huck weren’t around, but he ended up third. He is quite the chameleon, but not so much as to be able to play down South.
tommylotto on February 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Snort! Remember, he’s trying to look more authentic and less like he’s doing whatever is politically expedient. I’m not sure this would fit that game plan! ;-)
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Yes, I agree. Sorry I snapped. I’ve just seen lots of dumb Southern hick comments lately, and I took it out on your post.
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I think there is or at least will be, his name is Bobby Jindal. Start here. At 36, he has a lot of time to prove himself, but just look at what he’s done at his age. Governing LA will be a test. If he can overcome that, he will make Barack look like a joke.
My favorite anecdote is how he got into both two of the best law schools and medical schools in the country. Getting admission into just one of them is insane, but all 4, goddamn.
hkenshin on February 8, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Jindal is definitely one to watch. He’s the real deal.
Bryan on February 8, 2008 at 12:13 PM
You guys need to forget Romney. He will not be the guy in four years or eight, unless you want to keep losing. The guy would have proven to be almost as much of a disaster as Bush has turned out to be. Indeed, in a few years time many of you might actually have the courage to look back and ask what the heck that was all about, and admit what a complete idiot president Bush is.
In the meantime, Republicans need to take a breather and reacquaint themselves with their history and the voluminous amount of serious conservative thought that informed that history.
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Thank you for mentioning that book. I was not aware of that before.
ColtsFan on February 8, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I had him in mind, but who the heck is hearing about him? Maybe with time.
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I find it cheering, Bryan, that you assume that there will be a United States in four years. Hyperbole has it’s uses.
Actually, Romney can do a lot of good for the country by using the next four years advancing Conservative ideas, confronting Liberal foolishness.
That would be good citizenship.
But the most good he and the Republican party could do, in my opinion, is advance and groom younger candidates to take over.
Obama is the first shot over our bow; the future belongs to the young; baby boomers are graying,and although we may live longer, we would do a disservice to future generations if we cling to power like the Bobby Byrd and Ted Kennedys of the world.
I continue my mantra: term limits, term limits, term limits.
Because an internet high speed HD world is moving faster than old fuddy duddies can comprehend, and we must get and remain up to speed.
I’m 48, last of the boomers. I will be living in the world many decades beyond Bob Byrd, so I care more about the next generations of leaders.
Hopefully, XBox and PS3, Wii will someday make videogames which show how to be good citizens. Yep. More hyperbole.
Doug on February 8, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Spare us all the sanctimonious lectures you’ve become known for around here. I spent about half this post explaining why Romney =/= Reagan, and that’s based on that history that you evidently think I don’t know.
Figure it out.
Bryan on February 8, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I’m sure we’ll take your advice ‘under advisement’ in the Die Hard sense of the word.
Slublog on February 8, 2008 at 12:17 PM
RR went to Eureka College. being a great leader often has little to do with your academic pedigree or intellectual horsepower. It is more about having a vision that you can easily communicate, getting others to buy into it, and a burning desire and drive to implement that vision.
TheBigOldDog on February 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM
No, no, no. I’m not saying that the base will never again accept converts, or that it shouldn’t. I’m saying that, right now, the base is feeling kicked around and taken for granted and is understandably wary of anyone who seems to be spouting conservatism as a pandering strategy rather than as a deeply-held philosophy. Romney is not likely, in my opinion, to overcome the perception that his conversion was for anything other than political expediency. As I said to belad above, conversions like Reagan’s and Gramm’s convey political courage and sincerity. Romney’s–right or wrong–smacks of pandering. He gained support from talk radio and other conservatives at the end because he was the only one left who was even sort of conservative. There’s a reason they weren’t on his bandwagon from the very beginning, and why they won’t get behind him for 2012 if someone even slightly more conservative comes on the scene by 2010 when we get to start the primary process all over again.
I’m not demanding ideological purity. I’m not pining for Reagan to rise from the dead and lead us to salvation. I just want a heartfelt movement leader and charismatic speaker to have a shot in 2012. I don’t think Romney can become that guy, and I don’t want us to collectively waste our hope and energy on such a pipe dream. Romney might actually impede the rise of such a leader by sucking all the hope and energy out of the room for the next two years, while he remains unviable for 2012. My gut is telling me he’s not our next Reagan. I’m looking elsewhere, and I’m uneasy about a possible movement to shoehorn Romney into a role for which he seems clearly unsuited.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Not sure where I’ve proven hypocritical. Critical? Absolutely. Remember, we have John McCain now. That’s a loss. That I bring up the things that I’ve said or thought is not sanctimonious, it’s to fight off always being called a Paultard, leftist, nutjob, etc.
If you want to challenge my conservative bonafides, go for it. What’s your excuse?
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 12:23 PM
FTFY Mate. Now it reflects the reality of basically every one of your posts.
BKennedy on February 8, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Any books to recommend on the “stupid wars” in Central America?
Aha! Mitt can tour the auto manufacturing plants region wide in Georgia and Alabama. GE has morphed into a greedy corporation exploiting global warming alarmism for profit with its CFL bulbs so that would be a tough nut to crack now.
Buy Danish on February 8, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Moreover, Bryan, by your suggesting that Romney might still become “the next Ronald Reagan” is a sign that you may not really understand Reagan and what it was he was about. Romney will never be the type of mind and man that Reagan was. So why hold out the possibility?
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 12:30 PM
1) Of course he can, anyone can overcome past mistakes/choices.
2) You are not a fiscal conservative it would seem. The money is not “his sons inheritance” and it is telling that you look at wealth that way. MITT made his money, and if he wanted to spend it all that would be HIS choice. His children have no claim to any of that money. Too many people in this country have gotten the idea that is all right to lay claim on someone else’s wealth/property.
And on a side note I have to admit to being wrong about Huckabee. Mitt’s surprise exit, done with class by ’suspending’ his campaign, took me by surprise. Suspending in the GOP race means he is giving up his delegates to be reassigned by the states he won. Very classy move, instead of just dropping out and keeping them.
I though Huckabee would have enough class to follow suit and drop out as well, and said on this site that he would leave an hour after Mitt did. I was wrong, he has no class and is going to just suck up as much attention/cash as he can even though he is dead in the water. Guess ‘Christian Leader’ means greedy, narcissistic, classless, son of a b**** in the south.
Voidseeker on February 8, 2008 at 12:32 PM
That’s interesting. I must go research that. I have no doubt Mitt did his homework to find out exactly what to do with his campaign, but I assumed it might be a money preserving move. Since it is a lot of his own money, I didn’t fault him for that.
TX Mom on February 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Message to the GOP and their heir apparent: Maverick nominee, meet maverick voter.
Gull on February 8, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I didn’t say hypocritical. I said sanctimonious. Learn the words and what they mean and I might begin to take you seriously.
Bryan on February 8, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Yes there is.
CHUCK NORRIS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Delta_Force_%28film%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_U.S.A._%281985_film%29
(granted, that was South American commies, but still…)
Kai on February 8, 2008 at 12:41 PM
My comment was made tongue-in-cheek. I’m as fiscally conservative as they come. I was poking fun at people who like to make Romney’s wealth the central issue in his candidacy.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Is it so hard for people to understand?
When a Conservative talks about someone being the new Reagan they do not mean an exact copy, but someone that wants to take on the same roll/duty.
Reagan 2.0 does not mean they have to be an ex democrat actor and work for 30 years to start a movement. It would be stupid to do all the same ground work again. “The new Reagan” is just political speak for “charismatic, passionate conservative leader working to advance the ideas of conservatism and fighting against the destructive ideas/plans/goals of its political opponents”.
Yeah, I will stick with ‘new Reagan’ over that mouthful too.
Regardless, Mitt has 4 years of an Obama train wreck to stay active and continue to fight the good fight. In 2012 he will be more than setup to run again, and will do well.
Voidseeker on February 8, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Clarification: My entire comment was not tongue-in-cheek, just the “sons’ inheritance” part.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 12:42 PM
I missed the tone of your text then, my bad it would seem.
Voidseeker on February 8, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Sorry, should have posted this first:
Excellent post Bryan. My brother and I have been war gaming this whole past year (or so) of the primary and came up with something along these lines ourselves, depending on how things played out. We did not foresee the really bad choices made by other candidates that lead to McCain though.
Mitt will do well if he wants to stay in politics and work for 2012. I think he will do a lot better though as he will not be so stiff and worried about every word or action. He will be able to relax and just be himself, a man who is far more electable than the On-guard-Mitt of this primary.
If he decides he has had enough of it he will do just fine back in the business world as well.
I hope he stays around, stays Right, and helps to push the Conservative movement forward. He will have my support for sure.
Again, thanks for the post.
Voidseeker on February 8, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Yeah, but a someone who actually understood conservatism might be nice too, no? Here I go on one of my “sanctimonious lectures,” but oh well.
Reagan and the conservative movement that brought him to power were completely at home with thinkers like Edmund Burke, Irving Babbitt, Richard Weaver, Russell Kirk, ME Bradford, Harry Jaffa, Eric Voegelin, Leo Strauss, Barry Goldwater, Robert Taft, the list goes on. And it was familiarity with the roots of conservatism that propelled Reagan into office.
Some guy spouting off “conservative values” but who has no personal foundation in them will be seen for the fraud that he is.
Reagan read and was familiar with the roots of conservatism and any candidate or spokesman for conservatism running on less than this is no conservative.
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Reagan spent 30 years building himself up to be a qualified president, including eight years as governor of California.
Romney doesn’t have 30 years to overcome his past beliefs, and his record in Mass. doesn’t seem inspiring. His “conversion” to conservatism is as suspect as McCain’s “conversion” to border enforcement.
Start looking for someone who has what it takes, people. Mitt ain’t it.
MrScribbler on February 8, 2008 at 12:54 PM
No harm, no foul. It’s hard to convey such subtleties in blog comments. :-)
As for the “new Reagan” stuff, I share your frustration. I’m optimistic about the probability of “another Reagan” someday rising to the top again–I’m hoping sooner rather than later. But every time I say such a thing, people accuse me of living in some fantasy in which an exact duplicate of Reagan appears from nowhere to save us all. I can’t count how many times I’ve had to explain–to people who should understand–that by “new Reagan,” I just mean a conservative movement leader who is an eloquent and persuasive speaker, a thinker, an optimist, a motivator, and an effective executive. A tall order, I’ll grant, but not impossible. It’s probable, in fact, that such a person exists. He or she will have a better chance if we politically active citizens go looking for this person and support and raise him or her from political obscurity. The internet gives the general public the ability to vet potential candidates more easily than ever before, and it even gives us a chance to begin grassroots draft movements more effectively than in the past. It’s silly to think that out of 300,000,000+ American citizens, and all who have yet to be born, that there will never be another great conservative leader in the mold of Ronald Reagan. It’s not stupid to think that there WILL be another Reagan–it’s stupid to think that there NEVER WILL be.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM
CEO Haliburton?
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM
From now on, lets only elect Republican Presidents with a last name beginning with “R”
EJDolbow on February 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM
You have a problem with Hailiburton?
EJDolbow on February 8, 2008 at 1:05 PM
I understand full well what it means, and “hypocritical” is very much a part of its meaning.
I think you might have meant “self-righteous,” to which I confess being guilty. Alas, in a forum where one must kiss the rear-end of Bushism or risk being called a Paultard or worse, I think there is room for excuse.
Drum on February 8, 2008 at 1:06 PM
I like Romney and supported him this time. However, I don’t think he should run again. Recoup his kid’s fortunes and carry on with life. Let a major GOP governor run next time – maybe a Bobby Jindal or someone (don’t remember whether he was born here)
However, I still don’t want to see McCain win. In fact, I won’t mind the Dems wiping out the GOP this time, so that in 2010, there can be a whole lot of fresh, conservative faces in the GOP, particularly in the Senate. We’ve tolerated compromises way too long.
infidelpride on February 8, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Rrrrrompson!
RushBaby on February 8, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Good piece, Bryan. Thanks.
My thought: Romney needs to make a personal connection to the South that is both authentic and makes use of his talents for turning things around.
If he could, say, help Jindal turn New Orleans around…
sulla on February 8, 2008 at 1:20 PM
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