What if the Sun cools off? Updated with LOL Sunz

posted at 12:12 pm on February 8, 2008 by Bryan

Global warming, if it’s happening, might have a few positive effects — more land in warmer climes suitable for crops, etc. Global cooling, not so much. It’s tough to grow corn in an ice age.

Some scientists who watch the Sun, also known as that big glowy thing that delivers all of the earth’s warmth, are worried that it might enter a cooling phase.

Not every scientist is part of Al Gore’s mythical “consensus.” Scientists worried about a new ice age seek funding to better observe something bigger than your SUV — the sun.

Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.

Imagine that: The Sun plays a role in the earth’s temperature.

To many, those data were convincing. Now, Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better “eyes” with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth’s climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined.

And they’re worried about global cooling, not warming.

Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada’s National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity.

Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.

Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.

This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.

Tapping reports no change in the sun’s magnetic field so far this cycle and warns that if the sun remains quiet for another year or two, it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.

Read the rest. Clearly, we need a big international movement to harness the power of all the governments and industries of the earth to stop this.

Or, we could stop suffering from collective delusions of grandeur and realize that nature outsizes us in ways we don’t yet comprehend.

Update: Reader Michael sends in LOL Sunz.

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And yes, most of us have said this was the case for years. Yet still, the Gorebal Warming crowd refuses to believe…

However, mark my words:

When the liberals realize Global Warming was a hoax and that we aren’t going to burn up or drown in Ice Cap melt, they will say the following: “We did it! We saved Mother Gaia!! My hybrid car and purchases from the local food co-op won the day! Hurray me!!”

Montana on February 8, 2008 at 12:17 PM

THE SUN LIES! ALGORE CRIES!!

Hoodlumman on February 8, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Personally, my favorite apocolypse involves us crossing the galactic center and being bombarded by primordeal comets and meteors. We’re just about there. Now that it appears the Clovis people were wiped out by impact or impacts, space apocolypse seems to be a lot more common than once thought. Supervolcanoes aren’t bad either.

You can keep your unspectacular temperature changes.

Beagle on February 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM

This just in. Al Gore releases new consenus. Global warming actually causes global cooling.

The debate is over.

Slippery on February 8, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Bryan, you cannot seriously believe that big yellow thing in the sky that gives this planet light and warmth is somehow responsible for warming and cooling periods. What brand of Koolaid are you drinking? Caveman!

/sarc

lorien1973 on February 8, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Nah. I’m sure if the sun burns out tomorrow our greenhouse gases will keep us warm.

BTW,I love that sabre-toothed tree rat in those Ice Age movies. Cracks me up every time!

LOL!

Yakko77 on February 8, 2008 at 12:20 PM

nature outsizes us in ways we don’t yet comprehend

Amen. True wisdom indeed.

LimeyGeek on February 8, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Dr. Susuki says : Jail the heretic!

If there ever was a reason to control government spending in the public interest. It’s this

Kini on February 8, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Oh NO!! The sun controls the temperature of the Earth!! What ever are we to do?

Troy Rasmussen on February 8, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Actually folks, be careful.

We can go to jail for doubting the prophet of Global Warming.

The debate is over.

Carbon is taxable dammit, the Europeans, Third World dictatorships, the State of Vermont, and the Canadians need a new source of income–and rich American’s are a gold mine.

Montana on February 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM

But, but my SUV is huge and the sun is like a smallish dot in the sky and its so far away.

BohicaTwentyTwo on February 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM

The same idiots will blame the global cooling on global warming. Wait and tell me Im wrong.

Chuck Schick on February 8, 2008 at 12:26 PM

If the sun flickers out at noon, we’ll have roughly eight minutes of listening to Al Bore whining before the Big Darkness gets to us.

What a relief.

MrScribbler on February 8, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Looks like some additional funding may be in order. May I suggest an additional tax on gasoline? I also sense an opportunity for the creation of companies to buy and sell carbon anti-offsets.

a capella on February 8, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Al in ’08!

Biffstir on February 8, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Someone should take those oil profits and buy us all Tesla roadsters! And ice cream for every meal!

Beagle on February 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM

it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.

I’ll take your massive snowfall and raise you the 2 feet of snow in my yard.

crazy_legs on February 8, 2008 at 12:34 PM

New bumper sticker on big-ass SUV: “I’m doing my part to save the planet! How about you?”

As previously noted, The Goracle will find a way to blame global cooling on global warming. It makes just as much sense as his current shtick, and will achieve the same goals (money, power).

Splashman on February 8, 2008 at 12:35 PM

What cracks me up about this (being that I am in the oil industry) is that you can tell the sun cycles via the formations of earth.

Come on…the northern parts of Alaska, Canada, Siberia, etc. HAS HAD swampy/tropical in the geological time frame of things. Which I happen to like since those areas are full of methane gas! And right before the earth warmed or cooled, hmmmm, the polar ice caps melted and then hardened. WOW, what a concept huh!

Ask anyone who is a mudlogger (aka a exploration driller) what they hit when they begin to look for your precious oil… and they will say rock, wood, water.

***can I roll my eyes any further in the back of my head***

upinak on February 8, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Do your part to stop global cooling. When taking a cr&p … make sure you use an entire roll each time.

Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 12:35 PM

I like snow so it would be fun for the first year but then when I’m paying 5.00 for an orange and the food shortages, we’d be the new illegal immigrants Pioneers in Mexico.
Everyone say it with me. No Habla.

Geronimo on February 8, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Oh Bryan, you’re so naive.

The Sun’s power is incredibly minimal.

1. It has gravity sufficient to keep 9 planets millions, billions, and trillions of miles away from it in orbit. (I’ve heard a theory they knocked off Pluto because it’s orbit was rather damning counter-evidence for their big-bang related theories)

2. It merely provides the warmth, heat, and light for the entire solar system.

3. It is very shiny.

This is nothing compared to Al Gore and the rest of the eco-fascists, around whom the entire universe revolves, they provide massive amounts of cash to supporters, and they are a shining beacon of hope for totalitarians everywhere.

Really, the sun only holds a candle to them on being shiny.

BKennedy on February 8, 2008 at 12:38 PM

Wait in the 70′s these same morons were worried about global cooling and then global warming and now back to global cooling again…..starting to hear voices, must not listen, can’t fight it where’s my gun need to go hunt down voices starting with berkeley yeah now I’m ok. sorry lost control there for a second.

limowilliam on February 8, 2008 at 12:38 PM

Sun cooling will be the next cause for the leftists… while we may not have caused it, we can solve it through more leftist policies, like destroying all the world’s nuclear weapons in the sun to jump start it. They will be saviors of the planet’s climate and end war forever. I remember the general idea from Superman IV, so it HAS to be right… I even think the UN supported it.

Wineaholic on February 8, 2008 at 12:43 PM

But… But… the Big S tells us that Conservatives are on the wrong side of this issue! How could this be? We must become more “moderate” here and accept the theory that man is changing the temp of the planet (for the worse, always for the worse). Otherwise why would anybody vote conservative??

Zetterson on February 8, 2008 at 12:44 PM

Personally, my favorite apocolypse involves us crossing the galactic center and being bombarded by primordeal comets and meteors.

I think you mean the equatorial plane of the galaxy. As the sun orbits around the actual center (which contains a huge black hole, or so scientists say), it crosses that plane and takes the solar system through said comets and meteors. This was put forth as one theory behind the mass extinctions found in the fossil record. Another is that the sun has a faint companion star, called “Nemesis”, which gets close enough every 26 million years or so to perturb the Oort cloud and send comets crashing inward.

Bigfoot on February 8, 2008 at 12:45 PM

I’ve heard a theory they knocked off Pluto because it’s orbit was rather damning counter-evidence for their big-bang related theories

My love for dear little Pluto cannot be assaulted by those big-bang nazis.

I still see ya out there li’l fella ;)

LimeyGeek on February 8, 2008 at 12:45 PM

This is preposterous. Al Gore, who I’ll remind you is a renouned climatologist, a Nobel Laureate and invented the internet says the earth is warming at an alarming rate. He must know a thing or two about a thing or two.

NJGOPOrphan on February 8, 2008 at 12:45 PM

What’s going to be fun is how the media treats this. Most people aren’t aware of it, but this upcoming global cooling scare is the fifth global climate scare in the last century. (There have been global cooling articles coming out for the last six months, although they don’t all list the sun as the reason.)

The New York Times started it in 1895. The interesting thing about these scares is that it doesn’t matter if the “cause” is warming or cooling. The “solution” is more government control.

Laura on February 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM

The Sun’s a flip-flopper! No way I’m voting for IT!

EyeSurgeon on February 8, 2008 at 12:47 PM

NJGOPOrphan on February 8, 2008 at 12:45 PM

PS…I’m super cereal!

NJGOPOrphan on February 8, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Who is that little cutey in the screencap?

RushBaby on February 8, 2008 at 12:50 PM

There has to be a way to make money from these global warming kool-aid drinkers. I’m looking to bet them that NYC will not go underwater. Any takers?

If Al Gore and company are so sure global warming is going to happen, why not put some money where their big mouths are. It’s just like taxes, they want everybody in society to pay more, but they don’t change their lifestyle at all. If you hooked them to a lie detector, I’m sure you’d find they don’t believe their own horses–t theories.

gash on February 8, 2008 at 12:50 PM

But isn’t the claim of a solar “cooling-off” period just more very preliminary speculation? It’s fun to jump on these studies to push back on the liberals for pushing an anti-business agenda in the name of stopping man-made global warming, but this science is just as preliminary and sketchy as anything else.

But it might make for a good SciFi Channel movie of the week — three scientists (one white guy, one woman, one black guy, all either young or totally wacked out) brought in through a secret government project to come up with a way of “restarting” the sun in order to prevent a global ice age… They decide to use a secret new technology and combine it with a bunch of nuclear weapons, the idea being to fly into space and detonate the nukes on the sun’s surface to “restart” the solar flare cycle…

Outlander on February 8, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Oh, they already have set the stage for the Global Warming = Global Cooling; that’s why they changed the politically correct terminology to Global Climate Change.

They’ve already been advancing the idea that man-made Global Warming will cause the ocean currents to shift, causing cooling in Europe (ground zero for climate hysteria) and North America. When actual temperature changes didn’t match their projections, they blamed air pollution for reflecting solar radiation and changes in cloud cover caused by- you guess it- Global Warming for the cooler than predicted (by them) temperatures.

They’ve finally found themselves a way to tax and regulate energy production, around which our economy is centered. They won’t let go voluntarily, no matter what the evidence.

Hollowpoint on February 8, 2008 at 12:51 PM

A SECOND LOOK AT THE SUN!

(But don’t actually look at the sun!)

Weebork on February 8, 2008 at 12:53 PM

There has to be a way to make money from these global warming kool-aid drinkers. I’m looking to bet them that NYC will not go underwater. Any takers?
gash on February 8, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Al Gore beat you to it I’m afraid.

1. Plant tree seedlings, document energy saving infrastructure improvements that would’ve happened anyways.

2. Sell #1 as “carbon offsets”.

3. Profit.

Alternatively-

1. Release to the media a shoddily researched study predicting gloom and doom.

2. Appeal to the government for large research grant to better study your doomsday theory.

3. Profit.

Hollowpoint on February 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM

But, but my SUV is huge and the sun is like a smallish dot in the sky and its so far away.

BohicaTwentyTwo on February 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM

teehee

ej_pez on February 8, 2008 at 12:56 PM

but, but, this is why I’m going to pay an extra .50/gal of gas, yes? No?! Then what is my extra .50/gal going to? Where is Congress’ carbon credits going? I drive an SUV, biggest I can find, don’t I get global cooling credits?

dish on February 8, 2008 at 12:56 PM

Who is that little cutey in the screencap?

RushBaby on February 8, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Watch the Ice Age movies. They’re both enjoyable CG animated movies.

Yakko77 on February 8, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Anyone else think these Global Warming wonks are way too in love with themselves? If the temperature rises, it must be us. If the temperature drops, it must be us. It is all about us.

Perhaps, the sole exception to that rule would be those pathetic folks who need their adrenaline rush from the problem du jour. The left’s version of the perpetual outrage boy.

Just a thought.

Duncan Khuver on February 8, 2008 at 1:03 PM

The Sun’s a flip-flopper! No way I’m voting for IT!

EyeSurgeon on February 8, 2008 at 12:47 PM

lol

tlynch001 on February 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM

But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet.

My God, what have we done to cause this?

STOP SOLAR COOLING NOW!!

CliffHanger on February 8, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Of course the biggest hoax is the idea that politicians can control the climate!!!

Who would have thought that modern, educated people in the 21st century would fall for a warmed-over Medievil scam used by sorcerers to scare the uneducated serfs into submission?

landlines on February 8, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Who would have thought that modern, educated people in the 21st century would fall for a warmed-over Medievil scam used by sorcerers to scare the uneducated serfs into submission?

Are they really all that ‘modern’ and ‘educated’?

I’m not surprised at all.

LimeyGeek on February 8, 2008 at 1:27 PM

That Big Glowy Thing

Now that’s funny !!

Firmworm on February 8, 2008 at 1:28 PM

A cooler sun?

It’s time to sacrifice some virgins to appease the gods.

madmonkphotog on February 8, 2008 at 1:32 PM

Cant we nuke the sun to get it going again, like in that badass Ben Affleck movie?

Chuck Schick on February 8, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Or, we could stop suffering from collective delusions of grandeur and realize that nature outsizes us in ways we don’t yet comprehend.

Exactly. Evolve, liberals! Quit trying to play God with your little endangered species and global climate crisis schticks. Darwin’s theory is conrete and unquestionable, right? Then STHU and let the fittest survive!

NTWR on February 8, 2008 at 1:39 PM

But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet.

My God, what have we done to cause this?

STOP SOLAR COOLING NOW!!

CliffHanger on February 8, 2008 at 1:19 PM

The Sun is lazy and lacks “fire in the belly”.

Hollowpoint on February 8, 2008 at 1:42 PM

This might be the only reason to elect McCain. His blowhard self might be able to release enough hot air to keep us from freezing to death.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 8, 2008 at 1:46 PM

The Kumbaya song for the year 2099 ?

Here Comes the Sun,It’s been a long cold lonely Winter.

Firmworm on February 8, 2008 at 1:50 PM

“It’s tough to grow corn in an ice age”

Hmmmmm … so logically we should endeavour to increase our CO2 output to retain as much heat as possible. Taking CO2 up to 6000 ppm ought to do it.

darwin on February 8, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Let’s not forget that Liberals move effortlessly from one environmental scam to another. Global Cooling in the 70′s to the overpopulation scare, to acid rain, to global warming.

At no point do they hold themselves accountable for being morons.

Hell the state of Vermont is still trying to steal money from Ohion because of the smoke from Ohio factories drifting to Vermont and killing their trees. Hah! The real issue there is a socialist state (aka Vermont) running out of money because they chase out business fasters than Hillary scares men off marriage.

Montana on February 8, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Imagine that: The Sun plays a role in the earth’s temperature.

Hmm. Learn something new every day.

Conservative_SAHM on February 8, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Yes but Rove controls the Sun.

ronsfi on February 8, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Forward to: John McCain.

John – I’d advise calming down on this issue. God has it under control.

TJG

T J Green on February 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM

That reminds me, I just saw a dopey trailer for a straight to DVD movie where a team of heroes (in mold of The Core, Armegeddon), have to fly a spaceship to “re-ignite” the sun, because it had cooled too much.

High comedy, no doubt.

Can’t place the name…

reaganaut on February 8, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Now that’s funny Montana and so true it hurts.

limowilliam on February 8, 2008 at 2:21 PM

Or, we could stop suffering from collective delusions of grandeur and realize that nature outsizes us in ways we don’t yet comprehend.

I’m John McCain. AND I DO NOT APPROVE THIS MESSAGE. I know way frakking more than anyone in the room about this and everything else! Now excuse me while I set out to polish my conservative credentials.

TexasDan on February 8, 2008 at 2:22 PM

My take is that we are forgetting humility. We don’t know how much we don’t know about our universe, and the incredibly complex climactic cycle is only the beginning. Of course, maybe I only emphasize humility because it’s a virtue highlighted in my Christian faith, and there are many beautiful passages in Psalms, etc. about God’s control and influence upon the world. Whether we believe there is a God who is watching over us or not, it appears to me that the climate change crowd is pretty arrogant to imagine they can understand, let alone make a meaningful impact, on global temperatures.

cs89 on February 8, 2008 at 2:32 PM

So this global cooling thing will lead to cooler summers?

Great. Sign me up. We could use some cooler summers here.

AZCoyote on February 8, 2008 at 2:42 PM

What pisses me off is the lie that “warming” is catastrophic. Look up …little climatic optimal… a period between 800 ad and 1250 ad approx. It got warm, as warm as the pants pissers are predicting. The oceans rose, up to 20 inches ,slowly, over several centuries. The tree line was 60 miles further north than today. The warming northern hemisphere no longer had such violent winds because of the lack of extreme temperature differences in air masses when they collided. Shorter winters and longer summers caused longer growing seasons which caused crop abundance and people humped with greater success for the offsprings survival, causing a population boom. People were getting wealthy in greater numbers. Heath conditions were such that an Englishman in 1250 was ,on average, 6 inches taller than the Englishman of 1900. Wealth evidenced itself in the construction of the great Cathedrals of Europe, built out of religious zeal coupled with surplus wealth.

France banned the import of English and Scottish wine. The Vikings exploded out of Scandinavia in open boats on seas free of violent storms that are known today. The Vikings settled Greenland because it was indeed green then and raised crops and animals for centuries until the mini ice age put an end to easy sea travel in open boats and crops growing that far north.

Warming is to be cheered but the lying ba$tards of the world have made it something to fear.

BL@KBIRD on February 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM

So this global cooling thing will lead to cooler summers?

Great. Sign me up. We could use some cooler summers here.

AZCoyote on February 8, 2008 at 2:42 PM

No, No, You don’t get it. Global warming causes hurricanes, flooding, massive snow storms and the like. Global cooling will likely cause a 20 year drought. Not sure, I will have to check with the Algore.

brtex on February 8, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Some scientists who watch the Sun, also known as that big glowy thing that delivers all of the earth’s warmth, are worried that it might enter a cooling phase.

*Shakes head, mumbles something inappropriate.*

Everytime I hear people on t.v. say what we need to do to stop global warming, I always say out loud: “Great, now what are we going to do about the sun?”

AL GORE LIED! LET IT SLIDE!

ThePrez on February 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM

It’s just been announced. John McCain has chosen Bui Tin as his running mate.

Seems like an obvious choice to me.

Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 3:15 PM

AL GORE LIED! LET IT SLIDE!

ThePrez on February 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Would make a darn good T-shirt and I want atleast a 60/40 deal for the profits. :)

ThePrez on February 8, 2008 at 3:18 PM

When global cooling begins, will the industrialized nations of the earth be able to charge a fee to the other nations for ramping up their production of carbon and other greenhouse gases in order to turn up the global thermostat?

Laserlawyer on February 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM

PS…I’m super cereal!

NJGOPOrphan on February 8, 2008 at 12:48 PM

ManBearPig is Dead!

Ladies and Gentlemen, It is my pleasure to introduce:

PigBearMan – not as smart but twice as dirty. Everyone get on their knees and pay homage!

DreadWolf on February 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM

Personally, my favorite apocolypse involves us crossing the galactic center and being bombarded by primordeal comets and meteors. We’re just about there. Now that it appears the Clovis people were wiped out by impact or impacts, space apocolypse seems to be a lot more common than once thought. Supervolcanoes aren’t bad either.

You can keep your unspectacular temperature changes.

Beagle on February 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Just saw a great show about comets and asteroids..one that hit Tunguska (Russia) in 1908 and was 1,000 times more powerful than Hiroshima and obliterated 80 million trees in a 830 square mile area. Bad day for tree huggers. Maybe if one of the local tribesmen had stopped their cows from farting then the asteroid wouldn’t have been sucked into the earth’s atmosphere?? Hmmm.

Wileygrl3 on February 8, 2008 at 5:23 PM

The LOLCATZ sun is absolutely awesome. I put it up outside of my office.

Nethicus on February 8, 2008 at 5:47 PM

The warmies missed the headline on Yahoo a couple days ago that China is reporting its coldest winter in over a century.

DerKrieger on February 8, 2008 at 8:15 PM

Great screen cap. Scrat rocks!!!

labrat on February 9, 2008 at 2:57 AM