Veepstakes
posted at 2:49 pm on February 8, 2008 by Bryan
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John McCain is not a mystery candidate. He has been in public life for decades, everyone knows his basic biography and he hasn’t exactly been a backbencher in Congress. Some awful legislation bears his prominent name. He’s therefore not a cypher candidate like the messianic Obama, and unlike Hillary, McCain is actually more well liked outside his party faithful than within. So to me, at this stage of the game I’m not sure how much difference his veep pick will make for him. He could pick a legit conservative to shore things up with the base, but he’ll still be John McCain. He could pick more moderate Republican and kick conservatives in the teeth one more time, and he’ll still be John McCain. He could even go for broke and pick Joe Lieberman, leaving the GOP with a left-leaning ticket to go up against the Democrats’ leftist or left-leaning ticket. That would be one more kick to conservatives, but would at least signal seriousness on the war and could put some blue states in play. But John McCain would still be John McCain.
All of this leads me to Pat Toomey’s article in the WSJ on this subject. Toomey runs through a list that dismisses Mike Huckabee before moving on to SC Gov Mark Sanford, SC Senator Jim DeMint, IN Rep. Mike Pence, former TX Sen. Phil Gramm, and Steve Forbes.
Interesting picks, all. Interesting, by the way, doesn’t mean good. Though there was one guy shouting “McCain-Huckabee” during McCain’s CPAC speech, Huckabee needs to come home on economic and national security conservatism before he would deserve a spot on any ticket. Sure, he can win in the South. But McCain can probably hold his own in the South without Huckabee.
As for the rest, Sanford would be a good pick. South Carolina is likely to replace him with another serious conservative, so moving him to veep wouldn’t hurt the movement by taking him off the front lines. The hippie punching Jim DeMint is probably my favorite on that list, but he’s much more useful in the Senate right now, especially in opposition to Reid and Pelosi. We need him and Pence in the fight where it’s happening, especially after November. As for Gramm and Forbes, eh. I touted Gramm the other day but I’ve cooled on that since. He has been out of the fight for about 5 years now. Both Gramm and Forbes are good on economics, Gramm is great on many other issues, both are not so sturdy on border security and that’s a McCain weakness that needs help. Forbes might help on McCain’s economic weakness but hasn’t proven that he can win any election anywhere yet.
I doubt McCain goes with any of these picks. Charlie Crist is likely as the popular governor of Florida and probably the man who won the nomination for McCain. Several picks including Christie Todd Whitman would be mistakes. Joe Lieberman might shake things up a lot, but he’s so far to the left on social issues that he’s more useful as a speculative pick than a real one. For a really out of the box pick, try former mayor and spaghetti western gunslinger Clint Eastwood. There is the little matter of Eastwood’s skepticism on the Iraq war, which McCain has pledged his all to win. It’s a very unlikely pick, but I’d love to see him debate pretty much any Democrat on national security. “I know what you’re thinking. Did Iran really halt nuke development in 2003, or 2005? Or did they stop at all? Do you feel lucky, Barack? Well. Do you?” The squint alone would roast the donks.
So who’s McCain going to pick? Beats me. A pick to the left would probably hurt him more than a pick to the right would potentially help him, though a pick to his right is the way to go to shore up the base. But whoever he picks, at the end of the day John McCain will still be John McCain. That’s his blessing and his curse.
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LOL!!!
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Not Condi! NOOOOOOO! Please let it be the Fred or Romney.
misterspork on February 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Eastwood would be good.
But I’d like to see Giuliani.
Vincenzo on February 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Not enough name recognition. McCain shouldn’t risk a “getting to know you” period with his VP. There are a lot of smart and more famous people out there.
Shallow? Of course. But if we have a sham President, why not a sham VP to boot?
natesnake on February 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Byran, did he HONESTLY Say Forbes??? OMG LMFAO HAHAHHAHAA… Forbes, the SAME MAN who looked McCain in the face and said “I do not believe you are a POW”! AHHAHAHHAHHAHAAAA, OMG I am snorting!
upinak on February 8, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Bryan. I emailed you from my phone a question about mccain. Do you think that the dems will go dirty against mccain in the generaL? I tend to think so. Do you think a democrat trash campaign would push mccain right and prevent him from colloborating with the demons if he is elected to prez?
Its really bugging me. Any answers from you Allah or readers would be appreciated.
blatantblue on February 8, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Anybody see Eastwood with Cavuto yesterday. They were at the Pebble Beach golf resort. Eastwood is pretty conservative, especially on the economy. Strong believer in the free market and he dosent like all of those social programs. He might be legit.
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM
McCain just about wrapped up the nomination running on his own set of policy ideas. Even if he picks a very conservative running mate, that person implicitly takes on McCain’s positions. All of this hoping that McCain will pick Fred Thompson, and suddenly vow to implement “attrition by enforcement”, and ignore global warming, is just a bunch of fantasy. The true conservative that McCain picks, if he does, will just follow him to the center, and will be branded a RINO by the same people who are using that terminology to describe McCain now. If McCain’s smart, he’ll pick someone who amplifies his positives, rather than trying to make up for any of his negatives through the force of conservative personality alone.
Big S on February 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Clint!
infidel on February 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM
So in other words… who cares who he picks bc it won’t make a lick of difference?
Luckedout on February 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM
How about Glenn Reynolds?
ninjapirate on February 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM
McCain will be slaughtered by the dims and the MSM. Remeber, he was the media darling for a reason. The MSM knew he would be an easy target. Sorry Blatantblue, will will probably have hillary or obama in the whitehouse, no matter what we do.
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Isn’t that BURTS brother?
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM
If were going with outside the box suggestions, what about Ben Stein?
rw on February 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM
I could have sworn I read,
LOL, it’s been a long week.
SkinnerVic on February 8, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Rove said the VP pick matters only if you pick a bad one. Which matches Bryan’s theme that McCain is still McCain and he is the one who will be setting policy. We won’t see another VP as influential as Cheney. In fact, Cheney’s value as an advisor, tends to be offset tosome degree by the fact the VP position was not used as a grooming position, and that decision is partially responsible for the mess we in which we now find ourselves.
a capella on February 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM
They’ll try to throw the kitchen sink at him is what I think.
Bryan on February 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Is there a true conservative that would take McAmnesty up on an offer? That is the question.
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Well, I’m still in the mode of not being willing to vote for McCain even if he offers ME the VP slot.
Nonetheless, It will be interesting to see who he does pick. Will he surprise us and pick someone halfway decent or continue to ‘reach out across the aisle’… (Or perhaps continue to ignore the Constitution and reach out across the border.)
LegendHasIt on February 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM
I think he needs to pick someone to the right to pick up more of the conservative base. Would help if the person is younger to appeal to the younger voters. Going to the left would definitely hurt more than it would help.
Someone with good name recognition would help. Lots of the folks mentioned in the article are not national figures.
Snidely Whiplash on February 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Condi Rice.
gridlock2 on February 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Heck, I don’t think conservatives would trust McShamnesty one iota more even if he somehow managed to get Tancredo to agree to be VP. We all know that Johnny Mac will just do whatever the hell he wants anyway, especially if there are liberal accolades to be had. All conservatives have to do is to survey the extensive array of cutlery in our backs and remember which RINO put them there. There are some candidates for VP that would make the ticket even more odious, like the Huckster, but I can’t think of anybody that could make this pile of crap smell like a rose.
ReubenJCogburn on February 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Implausible VP for McCain: Zombie Reagan.
How about VP Andrew Sullivan? He’ll be “reaching out.”
BKennedy on February 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Ben Stein is currently coming out with a pro-Intelligent Design movie. I do believe in a form of ID, but that’s too much baggage for an election.
ninjapirate on February 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Kay Bailey Hutchison — United States Senator from Texas. Should lock in those 32 Texan electoral votes in the general AND — acts as an automatic counter to the Dems who will have either (or both) a woman and/or a black man on the their ticket.
SunSword on February 8, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Ever wonder if the conservatives that would be legitimate picks for McCain, are thinking…”Pleaaase God, don’t let him ask me!”
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:07 PM
I thought he sounded so libertarian that he flirted with Paulian…
tommylotto on February 8, 2008 at 3:07 PM
This is the Maverick we’re talking about, so think of the worse possible VP picks, and you will be very close.
Arlen? Grahmnesty? Snow (not Tony, that liberal R chick)? Chafee, anyone??,
AZCON on February 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Colin Powell. The best shot the R’s have this cycle is hammering home their national security edge (the “Voting to Kill” ticket), and picking Powell would be doubling down on that issue. The drawbacks would be his apostasy on some of the issues (just like McCain) for conservatives, and we’d no doubt have to live through another rehashing of the case for war in Iraq. However, the experience and maturity as a CIC angle is about the only shot Republicans have against Obama, and consider how this could play out if Hillary is the nominee. Think about a scenario where Clinton and Obama fight all the way to the convention and the super delegates “select” Clinton as the nominee, or the DNC reinstates the delegates from Michigan and Florida to put Hillary over the top. Think about how screwed Obama supporters are going to feel in that scenario, and in the general they will be faced with a choice of voting for a Democratic candidate that kneecapped the candidacy of the first credible African-American presidential candidate, or voting for a Republican ticket that has the first African-American VP candidate ever. Such a scenario could represent a truly seismic shift in the electorate. I know the safer pick would be to pick a rock-ribbed movement conservative from the South like Fred Thompson, Haley Barbour, or Mark Sanford (I like them all), but the idea of how McCain/Powell would completely throw the Dems off kilter would just be too good to pass up.
Dudley Smith on February 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM
If McCain is to have ANY shot at all of winning in the general election, he better pick a VP and run to the left. Why?
Because conservatives will not be voting for him and the only chance he’s got is to entice Democrats and left-leaners who are not comfortable voting for Hillary or Obama.
He will not have the right to support him, so he better go after the left.
Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Good points. Some very good conservatives are being tarred and feathered by commenters here just for pragmatically endorsing McCain. I can’t imagine the punishment they’d endure–no matter how spotless their conservative records–for actually (shudder) running with the guy. For some, McCain’s running mate will be poison, anathema, an untouchable pariah by association with the Maverick.
But remember that if McCain wins the presidency, his VP will be our default candidate when McCain is done. Therefore, I hope he chooses someone to the right and not a mini-McCain.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM
Bryan, Your’e missing the most obvious and the absolute best choice. I refer to JC Watts. If McCain has enough sense to choose JC, the election is a given for McCain. A McCain-Watts ticket would roll over any possible Democratic ticket. If he chooses JC, then I certainly hope that the Dems nominate Hillary. A McCain-Watts ticket starts with huge advantages. It wins all the states that Bush took in 2004 (except possibly Ohio where Republican corruption from the Taft years takes Ohio out of play for years)and it also has big chances in Pa. and New Jersey. I know that the Dems have been doing opposition research on JC and they will spread the poison quickly. They have stuff about some failed business ventures JC had in Oklahoma in the 1980s. It is all piddling stuff but it is there.
I don’t know if McCain will have the smarts or the sense to pick JC but with JC on the ticket, the Dems can start planning for 2012. 2008 will be out of their reach.
Larraby on February 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM
What about Teve Torbes?
BrianBoru on February 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM
I hereby nominate Raptor Zombie Reagan for veep
pseudonominus on February 8, 2008 at 3:11 PM
As for how the Dems will attack McCain, it’s already started. Here’s the playbook, courtesy of Politico:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8397.html
Dudley Smith on February 8, 2008 at 3:11 PM
The “I was wrong”, “We shouldn’t be in Iraq”, Colin Powell?!
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM
DeMint has already threatened to leave the Republican Party if they passed amnesty. What are the chances McCain would pick him?
Buddahpundit on February 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM
I am going to have to agree with you on this. Powell though is totally against the war, from what I have read. But the most logical of the bunch. Besides the fact he is Black!
upinak on February 8, 2008 at 3:12 PM
LOL!!!
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Yeah, I honestly LOL at that too!!
As for McCain’s VP pick, anyone more conservative than himself which is very long list indeed.
Yakko77 on February 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I didn’t get that but at this point he sounds more conservative than McCain!
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Does cow crap stink?
He’s a RINOs RINO and no body pushing him anywhere, especially to the right.
Its really bugging me. Any answers from you Allah or readers would be appreciated.
You cannot be this naive.
leanright on February 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Not only someone with national name recognition, but someone who is dynamic and is good with the media. Republicans will be at a significant funding disadvantage this year, and will need all of the free media they can get. McCain’s one BIG plus is that he runs better as an underdog than as a front-runner, which is where he will start the general election. His VP pick needs to be willing and able to do millions of interviews (Like McCain) and keep the media’s attention, hopefully in a good way rather than via scandals. If Fred Thompson could get off his butt more often, he’d be a good choice, and if Rudy could assure McCain of no more damaging scandals (the last one was a fake!), he’d also be good.
Big S on February 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Especially considering two factors: A) Huckabee led in the South when there was a choice between Republicans, B) There are plenty of military strongholds in the South that McCain can carry easily.
The Dems will slaughter him. I differ from KCD a bit on the definitive loss. I honestly think McCain has a good shot against the Clintons and their scandals. Obama less so.
His previous statements are going to be a problem, especially his remarks on the economy. He could kind of balance that a bit by putting Romney on the ticket: A military genius and an economic genius on one ticket could be sold to Americans.
amerpundit on February 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Agreed. Which is why I think McCain is likely to pick someone without national name recognition. He won’t want the competition, nor will he want the credit for his winning (assuming he can win) to go to his VP. He won’t want it to look like he needed help to win.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 3:14 PM
From what I know of him, Watts would be cool with me.
Bryan on February 8, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Sorry,
forgot to quote.
leanright on February 8, 2008 at 3:15 PM
That would be smart….so we know he’s not going to do it!
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:16 PM
So no Fred? There friends. Why not? I think McCain needs a Southern Conservative.
misterspork on February 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Obama?
stenwin77 on February 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Ummmm…pretty difficult to pick to his left from the Republican party.
right2bright on February 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Might as well pick Paris Hilton. At least it’s lipstick on the pig.
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 8, 2008 at 3:19 PM
It’s just been announced. John McCain has chosen Bui Tin as his running mate.
Seems like an obvious choice to me.
My guess is that he’ll name Vo Van Kiet as his Secretary of State.
Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 3:20 PM
He could’ve been a presidential candidate by now, but his family is (understandably) concerned about his safety. There’s little-to-no chance of a run on any ticket.
Besides, he’s not much better than McCain in politics. He opposes enhanced interrogation, said that “The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of [America's] fight against terrorism.”, he’s pro-choice, supports affirmative action, supports gun control, opposed military tribunals for detainees, etc.
amerpundit on February 8, 2008 at 3:20 PM
The Veep choices that would cause me to vote for McCain are Romney, Thompson, Rice, and maybe a couple good, strong conservative Senators.
Crist, Huckabee, or any like idijit will have me staying home or voting Democrat.
Enoxo on February 8, 2008 at 3:20 PM
McCain – Limbaugh 2008
Ropera on February 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Yeah… and that is Lieberman.
DaveS on February 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM
They’re!!!!!! I mean!
misterspork on February 8, 2008 at 3:21 PM
amerpundit on February 8, 2008 at 3:13 PM
With all due respect Amerpundit, the MSM has kept a lid on the McCain scandals during the pirmarys. The lid will blow off those as soon as we see who the Dim nominee is. ie,McCain dumping his first wife after an accident that left her less than appealing then marrying someone 15 years younger, The wifey and the drug stealing, etc. Barbara Wawa will probably have a 20/20 special on it.
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Charlie Crist is a feckless RINO hack. I’d support his VP nod for no other reason than his removal from Tallahassee.
SECOND LOOK AT TAKING BACK THE HOUSE!
Kid from Brooklyn on February 8, 2008 at 3:22 PM
McCain – Chealsea! The press couldn’t touch ‘em.
AZCON on February 8, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Dirty Harry is 6 years older than the Maverick.
infidel65 on February 8, 2008 at 3:24 PM
and
Gregor is right. Rush, Ann, and the evangelicals might have succeeded in talking themselves right out of the equation. If McCain’s convinced they’re going to stay home no matter what, it’d be very much in his interest to abandon them altogether and instead focus on stripping moderate Democrat and independent votes from the opposition (particularly if it’s Obama, whose extreme leftism should render him particularly vulnerable at the center). That could mean another RINO, or better yet a “maverick” Democrat like Lieberman (cross-party tickets have happened before, though I’ve no idea how something like that would fly at a modern convention).
Blacklake on February 8, 2008 at 3:24 PM
I haven’t read up on everything Powell has said about Iraq, so you could be right. I’d have to see exactly what he has said, but my understanding of his position is that he may say it was a mistake to have gone in, but I don’t think he is calling for complete and immediate withdrawal, which puts him where most Americans are right now. If he is calling for us to get out now, you are right, that would be irreconcilable. If Powell is the type who understands that regardless of why we went in, we have to finish the job before we leave, won’t that provide the perfect compliment to McCain while still emphasizing the strength of the Republicans on national defense? That he’s not going to be a “warmonger” but everyone knows he can kick ass when called to do so? I think he would blunt the criticism of the war while maintaining the Republican cred on defense.
Dudley Smith on February 8, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Well you all must know by now that Juan really wants to choose me as his VP.
But Juan and I decided against that though as I was not born in the United and that is still a requirement, for now anyway, and we also both agreed that although you Gringos are muy stupido, you may not be that muy stupido and just might catch on to exactly what Juan and I are up to.
And don’t tell Juan that I said this but he is still under the delusion that when he becomes el Presidente del America del Norte that he will be mainly in charge and not me.
VinyFoxy on February 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM
I’m well aware of McCain’s scandals and the media’s lid on them. However, Clinton’s scandals are well-known as well, 50% of Americans have said they don’t trust the Clintons and don’t want them back in the White House, the Clinton possibility galvanizes the right, and think of all of the RNC commercials to be made.
I’m not saying the media’s not going to be a problem. However, it will be less so (in my opinion) with Clinton than, say, Obamassiah.
amerpundit on February 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM
George Allen for VP, if for no other reason than the “eff-you” effect such a pick would have.
Kid from Brooklyn on February 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM
McCain/Sharpton – 2008
Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Any conservative that would accept the VP spot from McCain will lose all credibility. Let ‘em run with a RINO because he is going to lose anyway.
echosyst on February 8, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Which one is the pig?
natesnake on February 8, 2008 at 3:26 PM
John McCain:
Big S on February 8, 2008 at 3:26 PM
LOL!! Yeah! Maybe Chelsea would like to show some rebellion against her parents. Maybe sho would tell Hillary “vote for this mother, or I will tell the whole country about________! LOL!
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:26 PM
My choice also, had a little trouble as a kid, but pulled his way out of it.
A scrapper, this is a black man that won in Oklahoma. Talk about charisma, they loved him there. The first black to be elected to a southern state in over 100 years.
right2bright on February 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM
This doesn’t happen until the convention in Sept, does it? Geeze, that’s a long way off.
stenwin77 on February 8, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I agree. We have more ammo on the Clintons.
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:29 PM
I’m really not sure why there’s such a negative reaction to Juan McCain. He’s clearly thinking America first.
Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 3:29 PM
When Hillary loses to Obama, it’s going to be …
McCain/Hillary
Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Oh, Crap! Maybe his advisors are smart enough to convince him he HAS TO have a conservative to win.
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Captain Shamnesty can actually pick Juan Hernandez: according to the bio on his homepage, Hernandez was born in Fort Worth, TX to a Mexican father and a Texan mother.
ReubenJCogburn on February 8, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Why? The American people have voted and stated quite clearly that they want nothing to do with conservative candidates. What the Hell would motivate them to run conservative?
Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Note that there’s no platitudes about “uniting the party” in his response. He’s probably going to pick someone who he likes and agrees with for his running mate, not a politically-motivated choice.
Big S on February 8, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Good point. Damn, I hate that!
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 3:37 PM
Lean right, dont call me naive for venturing to think of certain possibilities. Its a shame you can’t. Mccain is a vindictive person. Is it that illogical to consider that if the dems go all out dirty, he would not be as malleable to their will as he once was if he were to be elected?
Think for yourself leanright before you start accusing others of naïveté.
blatantblue on February 8, 2008 at 3:41 PM
McCain’s VP pick will make a huge difference to me. Since we’ll be stuck running his VP one day if McCain becomes president, we’re selecting our next primary winner at the same time as we vote McCain into the White House. I can vote for McCain over Hillary or Obama. I cannot vote for Huckabee (one example) as the VP and therefore my default candidate in 2012 or 2016 when McCain’s done. If McCain picks Huck or someone equally unacceptable, I will not be able to vote for them in the general. Which would suck, but there you have it. I won’t shoot the conservative movement in the foot for up to 16 more years by electing McCain followed by McCain-lite. I’d rather go down with the idealogues this year and live to fight another day with a real conservative leader that WE choose, not McCain, in 2012.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Thanks for the link to McCain’s health care plan for Mexico Gregor. I’d heard a rumor about it, but ever seen anything solid.
Never thought I’d a accuse you of being too subtle though! ;-)
If I didn’t know better I would have thought you turned ’squishy’ and were now supporting McCain
LegendHasIt on February 8, 2008 at 3:48 PM
OK, here’s another one outside the box. McCain can reach across the aisle, as he loves to do, and pick – Zell Miller
Dudley Smith on February 8, 2008 at 3:50 PM
Doesn’t matter.
1. The veep slot is useless and will have no sway over McCain’s liberalism.
2. McCain cannot win the general election. Period.
3. Besides Ann Coulter, conservatives realize this and aren’t voting for him in a million years.
Valiant on February 8, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Actually, before he chooses a running mate, I would like him to run for a while on his own unopposed. After all, he will have the final say of the campaign, the party, and the presidency. So if I were to advise him, I would tell him to wait till at least April or May to announce his VP.
That being said, good choices would be:
Fred
Mitt
Sonny Perdue
Marc Racicot
Zell Miller
JC Watts
Maybe Mike Steele
Maaaybe Condi(of course she still wants to run the NFL)
Nonetheless, what McCain needs an attack dog that is not afraid to take it to the MSM and the Dems. McCain is not the strongest candidate, but we need this for our party and for our country for him to win.
ConservativePartyNow on February 8, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Yeah, you know better, lol. I will NEVER vote for McCain and I will use every breath I have between now and election day to make sure he is defeated.
A McCain victory tells every conservative candidate that they must run to the left if they are to win. We simply can’t afford that. Instead, a strong message must be sent that tells members of the GOP that they simply will not win if they refuse to return to their conservative roots. To reward McCain for telling us all to go to Hell is simply stupid. There are those who don’t believe me.
Take a look at what will be the common theme for the next 20 years if McCain wins.
Don’t do it! Don’t reward these b&st&rds!
Gregor on February 8, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Do not suggest Fred, please…
That would make Pelosi just two hearts beats of two old geezers away from POTUS.
tommylotto on February 8, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Fred looks old but he is not but a couple years older than Pelosi.
kcd on February 8, 2008 at 4:10 PM
What difference does it make? I thought the conservative movement is dead in the water already. If “real conservatives” wanted to have a say in who is veep, maybe they should have won the primary. To keep demanding that McCain reach out to you so you can kick him in the teeth is the height of arrogance. McCain will pick the person that he feels is right for the job, and the one that will help him win. I’m sure like myself, he’s tired of being called not conservative and then not conservative enough in the same breath. He can’t win with you folks, so why suck up to people that hate him just to keep them from voting for the dems? I see who has the real spine and who the RINOs are.
myamphibian on February 8, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Gramm is even less personable than McCain. Crist is another RINO, but would guarantee Florida, which is a BIG deal. Hillary would have a good chance of taking Florida b/c seniors love her. Some rumors locally here about Crist’s sexuality, btw, but nothing substantiated, but I’ve heard some things in the local “community” here. Came up in the papers once or twice over the years, too, and he denied it, and it never became a big story.
I think Crist makes the most sense strategically.
RW Wacko on February 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Yes, tommylotto, we know. We KNOW. You hate Fred. Can we agree that you long ago surpassed your quota of anti-Fred comments here at Hot Air and that it’s really no longer necessary at all for you to attack him? He’s no threat to anyone and never really was. So he got a handful of conservatives all fired up for a couple of months. I know it’s a terrible, terrible thing for conservatives to get excited about anything, but you’re going to have to get over it. We’re not excited anymore, which should make you very happy. Rudy didn’t win, sure, but at least
Fred lost first! Great consolation prize for you, I’m sure.
McCain won’t choose Fred because he surely knows better than to create the Boring Old White Guy ticket to oppose the veritable groundswell of youth and hope that is Obamania. Plus Fred failed so miserably in his own campaign that I don’t see what McCain would think Fred could bring to his ticket that would benefit him electorally. And I like Fred!
So settle down, tommylotto. You really don’t have to respond to every single instance of Fred’s name appearing on this site with Pavlovian slobbering, venom, and hatred. Fred won’t eat you in your sleep. It’s over, man. Move on.
aero on February 8, 2008 at 4:17 PM
More likely it’ll be Vincente Fox.
realitycheck on February 8, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Fred Maybe
Mitt I get the feeling that they don’t like each other, so NO.
Sonny Perdue OK, but has had some (contrived) controversies regarding slavery in the past, so NO.
Marc Racicot From Wikipedia: After leaving office, Racicot worked as a lobbyist for the law firm Bracewell & Patterson. His notable clients included Enron… That’s a NO.
Zell Miller Maybe
JC Watts Only an ex-congressman; fails the experience test, so NO.
Maybe Mike Steele See J.C. Watts. NO.
Maaaybe Condi(of course she still wants to run the NFL) NO, too close to Bush.
Big S on February 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Sanford! golden pick. We need Demint, Coburn, and Sessions in the Senate.
funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM
I don’t think there’s any question that Rudy will be the VP pick. He’ll help with some of the blue northeast states including the biggest prize of New York. If McCain were to somehow win New York’s electoral votes, I think that would be ball game for McCamnesty.
They might even have made a deal already when Rudy pulled out of the race so soon.
Ballistic on February 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Sonny Perdue is pretty old too. One big strike against GW Bush is that he did nothing to build a young, conservative successor stream. If McCain picks Sanford, he’s actually doing something great for the GOP as well as for his electoral chances.
win-win baby!
funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Rudy would work for me as it would make Coutler and Dobson’s big heads explode. It wouldn’t help with the South or with religious conservatives, which is a big problem.
Sanford is the smartest pick. Of course, nobody ever said politicians are smart.
funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 4:25 PM
I agree that Sanford would be a very smart pick, but am not convinced that he’s in the running, since his endorsement has been conspicuously absent. As far as Rudy goes, I don’t think he hurts too much in the south, since McCain (a pretty solid pro-life, pro-gun guy) can probably carry that on his own against Hillary and/or Obama. The problem is in purple states like Virginia, Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Hampshire, and Colorado, where a Giuliani type might be able to help. The focus on the south and on the blue states of the Northeast is misguided; it’s the ones listed above that will make all of the difference in November.
Big S on February 8, 2008 at 4:31 PM
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