ITookTheRedPill on February 8, 2008 at 7:35 PM

ROFL

I take it you’ve got a lovely ranch house in Bizarro World.

HebrewToYou on February 8, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Little ditty about Fred and McCain
Two american pols growin old in the heartland
Freddie’s known to bring campaigns good luck
McCain took a ride in Fred’s little red truck

Suckin on chilli dogs outside the tastee freeze
McCain’s talk ’bout VP stuff
And ready to please.
Freddie say, hey McCain I’m no stalking horse
McCain look funny then say “but of course”.

Chorus:
Oh yeah crap goes on
Long after the thrill of runnin is gone
Oh yeah crap goes on
Long after the thrill of runnin is gone they walk on

McCain sits back reflects his thoughts for a moment
Scratches his head and does his best james dean
Well you know Fred we oughtta run together
Fred says, baby you ain’t miss no-thing

Chorus:
Oh yeah crap goes on
Long after the thrill of runnin is gone
Oh yeah crap goes on
Long after the thrill of runnin is gone

Gonna let it rock
Let it roll
Let the Bible belt calm down
And send Huck home
Hold on to 60 as long as you can
Changes comin round real soon
Make us President’s men

Little ditty about Fred and McCain
Two american pols doin the best they can

Igor R. on February 8, 2008 at 8:01 PM

I’m thinking that McCain called Fred and after about 120 minutes of pleading and whining Fred finally told him that he would vote for him next November as opposed to Hillary or Obama. Fred needed a nap and everyone knows you’ll say anything to get off the phone and take a nap.

Honestly I would expect Fred to support the GOP nominee, he is exactly that kind of old school sort of guy but I don’t expect him to endorse anyone until there is only 1. (Not counting RP)

Buzzy on February 8, 2008 at 8:05 PM

Please Fred! Don’t support McAmnesty!

Mooseman on February 8, 2008 at 8:28 PM

Dude, I feel the same way about Tom Coburn. Makes me sick to my stomach.

Buzzy on February 8, 2008 at 8:41 PM

I have decided to vote for The nut (RP) in the primary then write in Fred in the general.

TheSitRep on February 8, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Fred Thompson Backs McCain

HT/brkcmo Blogs for Fred Thompson

Here is confirmation that Fred Thompson has decided to endorse John McCain. He has released a statement to that effect:

Fred Thompson, the one-time Republican presidential candidate, endorsed Sen. John McCain Friday, calling on the party to “close ranks” behind the presumed nominee.

“This is no longer about past preferences or differences. It is about what is best for our country and for me that means that Republicans should close ranks behind John McCain,” Thompson said in a statement reported by the Associated Press.

Thompson’s endorsement was expected. The two men were colleagues for years in the Senate and shared what associates called a friendship. But while he was in the race, Thompson had bristled at the idea that he was going to drop out and endorse McCain.

The endorsement now may help McCain to coalesce the factions of the party around him. Thompson, who represented Tennessee in the Senate for eight years, is thought of well in the South, an area that McCain has not done well in.

As usual, Fred is right. The future of the United States must not be turned over to the “Surrendercrats” in November. It IS time to “close ranks behind John McCain,” as Fred put it, and put the national security of our country first.

Connie on February 8, 2008 at 9:53 PM

SECOND LOOK AT POSSIBLY NOT STAYING HOME!

Rejected, for the fourth time.

When you going to stop asking? :P

Enoxo on February 8, 2008 at 10:01 PM

He was good in Hunt for Red October.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM

The shrill voice of the glacier and her crooked-fingered husband or the velvety smoothness of Obama’s hope where we all feel good about ourselves and very little gets done because of his inexperience.

Obama ‘08!

Valiant on February 8, 2008 at 9:57 PM

Good idea and good reason to vote for Obama. McCain’s voice when calling us all racist bigots during the immigration fiasco and having him and “Lindsay” throwing temper tantrums is just as bad as Hillary’s shriek.

TOPV on February 8, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Hey, slip on over to Little Green Footballs and read the Swiftboating McCain thread. That’s just a taste of what is coming from the donks.

a capella on February 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM

I am losing massive amounts of respect for these “conservatives” by the minute. They are lining up like lemmings to follow McCain over the socialist cliff. See-Dubya had the best advice with remaining coy.

The man hasn’t even clinched the nomination yet si there is no rush for conservativves to support him before he moves our way.

Valiant on February 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM

a capella on February 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM

You sure spook easy.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Hey, slip on over to Little Green Footballs and read the Swiftboating McCain thread. That’s just a taste of what is coming from the donks.

a capella on February 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM

It is too early to start the I Told You So meme?

SimplyKimberly on February 8, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Update: The moment of truth is at hand.

Yay. Starring Fred!, the only true conservative, as Fred!, the party healer!

Spirit of 1776 on February 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Jindal ‘16!

MarkoMancuso on February 8, 2008 at 10:40 PM

You’re welcome, AP.

Connie on February 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM

a capella those POW/MIA people are con men of the highest order. They were instrumental in getting Ross Perot to run against GHW Bush in 1992 because he believed their bullshit. He actually funded a bunch of their “missions.” Beth over at bamapachyderm did a long, detailed post about this crap. Captain Ed at captainsquartersblog.com did so also. I’ll go find links for you.

But don’t spread that nonsense or get fooled by those losers.

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 10:58 PM

a capella on February 8, 2008 at 10:45 PM

I unlike someone can forgive. Forgive a young man under a tremendous psychological and physical battle for his life halfway around the world in a cold urine drenched cell.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 8, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Cap’n Ed on the McCain rumors (this was pre-Super Tuesday, Cap’n Ed endorsed Romney, just for context:

Lo and behold, we got an answer today. Dr. Jack Wheeler apparently began spreading this particular rumor just after the Florida primary, and it gets nasty:

Others relate times when McCain screamed four-letter obscenities right in their faces in the Senate cloak room, like Dick Shelby, Rick Santorum, or Jim Inhofe. “The man is unhinged,” one Senator told me. “He is frighteningly unfit to be Commander-in-Chief.”
That John McCain is clinically nuts is scary enough. What worries a small group of GOP Senators and Congressmen even more is a deep and dark skeletal secret in McCain’s glorified past to which they are privy, and which the Clintons will use to blackmail him. ….

McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March of 1973. During this time, T translated all the Vietnamese interrogators’ notes and reports regarding John McCain.

According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an “accommodation” with his captors, and in exchange, T’s father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement. That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa.

That would be news to his fellow POWs, who recall the days of Hoa Loa much differently:

Even when he was in solitary confinement, he was constantly in contact with others. Further, we always knew about movements within the camps because the Communists simply were not competent at preventing us from gaining intelligence. Men who were in the camps with him agree that they are not aware of a single night that he spent out of his cell.
A friend, whom I know to be reliable, was across the hall and one door down, from McCain’s cell when McCain was first captured. He has told me that he saw Communist officers enter the cell where the wounded John McCain lay, incapacitated. He heard them offer McCain early release and heard John answer that he would go home when we all go home. He heard the voices of the officers rising until they were shouting angrily at McCain and threatening him. This was followed by screams of agony from John McCain, and a stream of obscenities from him. He could not see what they did to him and I never heard from John McCain what it was. This does not sound like a collaborator.

In the spring of 1971 I personally witnessed evidence of John McCain’s loyalty. After the attempted rescue of POWs at the camp at Son Tay, in November of 1970, almost all Americans were moved to Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi, the infamous “Hanoi Hilton.” The Communists felt so threatened by the raid that, for the first time, they concentrated us in large cells with as many as sixty men in a cell.

Against this eyewitness testimony from James Warner, who served as a policy adviser to President Reagan in his second term, we have the conspiracy theories of Wheeler. Wheeler doesn’t actually produce any evidence, documentary or testimonial. Conveniently, Wheeler says the CIA has it hidden. That doesn’t keep him from dropping this turd in the middle of the primary punch bowl.

I have had it with whispering campaigns. Some Senators think John McCain is “clinically nuts”? Then they need to step forward and explain that diagnosis, openly. Being temperamental isn’t the same thing as “clinically nuts”, and the description Wheeler gives sounds a lot closer to the former than the latter. I’ve had coaches who could blister the paint off the walls and pack a semester’s worth of Salty Language 101 into a post-match review, but that didn’t make them “clinically nuts”.

And this smear about living in a hotel room with prostitutes while being held as a POW is particularly despicable. I thought the lost-airplane smear was bad, but this smells worse than anything I’ve ever heard in politics. Shame on Wheeler for pushing this story without so much as a scrap of evidence, and especially in the face of compelling testimony to the contrary. What’s Wheeler’s basis for passing this along? He heard it from the son of the man who supposedly interviewed McCain for the KGB, without ever seeing the translations . As if the KGB never engaged in disinformation and sabotage campaigns!

And if this had been true, why would McCain have challenged Bush for the presidency in 2000? Why would he run now? He’s been involved in military and intelligence affairs for years in the Senate, all the way back to when the Soviet Union was a going concern. Wouldn’t the CIA or the Clintons have used it (assuming either would have done so) back in the 1990s when McCain was openly criticizing them for their policies?

Wheeler includes one last smear for the road:

When the time is right, the Clintons will see to the leaking of the GRU archives on McCain to the media. Bet on it, just as you can bet they’ll follow it up with media disclosures of the lady lobbyists in Washington having adulterous affairs with McCain. (There are at least three of them; I know the name of one but I’m not going to put it in writing.)
Pathetic. Disgusting. Rancid. Gutless. He’ll throw the mud, but he won’t give the evidence. What a revolting piece of work Wheeler is. This kind of character assassination should have no place in politics, and the only evidence it provides is that of Wheeler’s moral derangement.

UPDATE and BUMP: Someone asks me in the comments if it wouldn’t be better to ignore people like Wheeler. Unfortunately, no. Someone has to take out the garbage, and if it keeps piling up,. the stink gets on everyone in the room.

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:07 PM

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM

Interesting.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM

Captain Ed and Modern Conservative are BOTH Romney supporters, and they have the integrity to reject this despicable smear campaign. Yet some of you pathetic chump bloggers want to believe anything. Losers.

I’ll bet this Wheeler creep is pals with Ted Sampley. I was told in an email by someone who has known Wheeler for 20+ years that “he has a long history as being intimately involved with US freedom fighting efforts. (Charlie Wilson was his best man.)”

I smell Ted Sampley all over this lie–it’s pretty much the same crap he spews. Be sure to click the links, too–the guy is a fraud. A con artist who makes his living preying on the hopes of POW/MIA families, still, after 35 years. His whole schtick is that John McCain and John F’n Kerry (whom I detest, as you probably know, but not because of Ted Sampley’s crap) “covered up” evidence of “live sightings” in Vietnam. I call BULLSHIT. I challenge anyone to dare say I don’t support the military, especially in favor of politicians–and especially in favor of John F’n Kerry. But this guy, making a living off of families, dragging out their last hopes for decades, taking their money…there is nothing lower than that kind of scum. And worse, he’s managed to infect the public with this hoax. It’s not partisan, it’s simply fraud and conspiracy theory. That’s what you get when you start looking around the fringe, though.

This pretty much says it all:

In January 2008 McCain won the Republican primary election in New Hampshire and immediately Sampley’s propaganda machine cranked up. Sampley is the sponsor (with his identity concealed, of course) of a website named “Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain.” On this website he repeats his many lies about McCain and he has added a few, accusing McCain of covering up evidence of US POW’s still held in SEAsia long after the end of the Vietnam War.

Because the mainstream press does not check facts as they should, you can expect some of Sampley’s crap to be reported as fact. And, because Sampley is closely tied to several far-right-wing Republicans who do not like McCain, you can expect his nonsense to be spread through such outlets as Newsmax and the Sciafe newspapers.

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:12 PM

Crap. well, that’s all I’ve got. The Pink Flamingo Cafe blog has had lots of stuff about these guys too. Now off to find batteries.

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM

“The Merry Prankster:”
Ted Sampley in Action

Summary. In my discussion of the attacks on Senator John McCain, I rely on work published by Ms. Susan Katz Keating in her book Prisoners of Hope: Exploiting the POW-MIA Myth in America. Ms. Keating, while she was a reporter for the Washington Times, was convinced that live American POWs remained in Vietnam. As time went on and she became more and more acquainted with the issue, she discovered the facts of the charlatans who take advantage of MIA families and who flim-flam the public, as well as discovering that the US government could have done a better job of managing the issue.

The attacks on John McCain can be traced largely to the work of one man, Ted Sampley, of Kinston, NC. The following is a direct quote of the entire chapter about Sampley from Ms. Keating’s book; she titled the chapter “The Merry Prankster.” Below is the first page of the chapter in jpeg format — I want readers to see that I really do have the book. The remainder of the chapter is in text format; I did this because the chapter is thirteen pages long and I did not want to put thirteen jpeg files on my web server.

http://www.miafacts.org/prankster.htm

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:18 PM

PDATE, February 2007: Here is a series of three articles written by an individual in North Carolina who has researched Sampley’s antics.

Who Is Ted Sampley and Why Do I Care, Part I. http://www.bluenc.com/node/3783

A Darker Shade of Ted. http://www.bluenc.com/node/3796

Disreputable, Despicable, Dishonest: http://www.bluenc.com/node/3820

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Mav came out years ago and said he “broke” after all of the abuse. To me as long as he didn’t compromise his fellow prisoners, then fine. Military planners know when the enemy has captives that they also have access to sensitive information and adjust accordingly. I really think that if the dems want to push this issue, that it will backfire. You see the left doesn’t defend it’s soldiers(Kerry). Mccain supported Kerry through all that and I believe that some of the press will return the favor.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 8, 2008 at 11:23 PM

34 years later, and I’m officially done with the GOP. Completely. There will be no vote for the GOP cast from this house. They have betrayed me… thus, I have no choice but to abandon them.

But it appears I am not alone. Hope yet lives. Unfortunately, it may take the lifetime of my daughter to see the results.

wccawa on February 8, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Fred can endorse who he wants, it saddens me, but makes no difference. McNumbnuts never gets my vote.

Fred wont either.

dogsoldier on February 8, 2008 at 11:28 PM

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Thank you so much for your years of service, sir. I completely respect that, as well as the points you make.

wccawa on February 8, 2008 at 11:29 PM

…Fred, we hardly knew ye.

You sure as hell proved that, you schmuck.

What’s best for the country does not mean necessarily putting friends at the helm.

*sigh*

MadisonConservative on February 8, 2008 at 11:29 PM

wccawa on February 8, 2008 at 11:29 PM

I think that was a “cut and paste” from another website, I don’t think that Flunky Chicken was actually claiming to be Colonel Schlatter.

If I’m incorrect about that, my apologies.

LegendHasIt on February 8, 2008 at 11:38 PM

Fred didn’t endorse until the nominee was clear. I believe he is trying to unite the party, so the dems will not win in November. I also think that he is correct to do so. I do not care for McCain at all… I resent the way he has treated conservatives. But, he is still far better than Hillary or Obama.

For those who are saying they will vote for Obama, please take a look at his record at ontheissues.org. He is extremely leftist and makes Hillary look like a moderate. He would be very very BAD for the country (especially since he has oodles of charisma to go with his extreme liberal ideals). He would also be much harder to beat in the general than Hillary would.

squeek71 on February 8, 2008 at 11:40 PM

Someone asked the other day where “Conservatives” can gather, and chat..

Well..

http://www.gopachy.com/

That is the main page with the mission statement

http://www.gopachy.com/forum

That is the forum page..

FR is another alternative, there are a few more..

Some are “invite only” forums..

BTW, gopachy.com has a link to hotair.com

No, I’m not a moderator at that forum.

Chakra Hammer on February 8, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Seriously, are we really slamming Fred! for endorsing the only remaining viable candidate in the Republican race?

SimplyKimberly on February 8, 2008 at 11:41 PM

Yes. Some of us thought Fred was the best candidate. Many of us think McCain would be a terrible president. To have the former back the latter is disillusioning and feels like betrayal, considering that nearly all the positions of the former were counter to those of the latter.

MadisonConservative on February 8, 2008 at 11:45 PM

Well, did he collaborate, or didn’t he?

a capella on February 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM

McCain can take care of himself, so I’m not too worried about it, really, but, if you want the details, he explains them in his autobiography - including both his own recognition of the greater, truly heroic actions of some of his comrades and also his own feelings of guilt, which are common among most victims of torture, whether or not an observer would consider them fair and logical.

In the meantime, people who put defamatory stories out there are accomplices after the fact, working to confirm what many torturers tell their captives: that they might as well tell everything or do whatever is asked, because they’re going to be judged and rejected by the people back home anyway. Material based on nothing more than some mixture of self-interest, suspicion, and stupidity - how McCain must be deranged, his judgment must be impaired, his mental or physical health must have been permanently affected in a way that bears upon his trustworthiness or his fitness for office, etc. - is more of the same garbage, and really beneath contempt.

CK MacLeod on February 8, 2008 at 11:47 PM

CK MacLeod on February 8, 2008 at 11:47 PM

I don’t have a problem with the collaboration after torture. My concern was with any political coverup and how it could be spun by the donks. I just went through that whole thread of comments at LGF, and the concensus runs mostly in agreement with the links funky chicken posted here; any cooperation with the NVA was not covered up, did not result in special considerations for McCain, and the individuals involved in making these accusations have an agenda in doing so. I’m happy to accept that.

a capella on February 9, 2008 at 12:02 AM

The arrogance is hilarious.

WE, the real conservatives are supposed to go to McShanesty to unite the party?
Bwahahahaha!!!!

HEY DUMBASS!! You come to us, we don’t come to you.

csdeven on February 9, 2008 at 12:15 AM

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:47 PM

It’s already starting isn’t it?

We told you that McShamnesty would be vetted eventually. The problem is when all the trash about McLiar is out in the open, it’ll be too late for you to whine for the guy who didn’t have the baggage car full of dirt that McLiar has.

Thanks to you and those like you, even we, the real conservatives, aren’t going to be able to cover for your piss poor judgment by getting completely behind McVanity.

The regular Joe voter will find out about McDirtbags shameful behavior as a POW. His mom is a gibot. His wife is a drug thief. He is a flip flopping liar and is way too old and has too many health issues to be an effect president.

Regular Joe voter will have two choices……

Old white guy entrenched in Washington insider politics, or young black guy who brings a message of hope and change.

Thanks again for the 100% dem controlled federal government. You must be so proud.

csdeven on February 9, 2008 at 12:28 AM

csdeven on February 9, 2008 at 12:28 AM

csdeven, you lost get over it already.

Chakra Hammer on February 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM

csdeven, could be worse, how do you think Tom Brady feels?

>:}

Chakra Hammer on February 9, 2008 at 12:35 AM

LegendHasIt on February 9, 2008 at 12:35 AM

He went, give the man a chance.

Let us win.

Chakra Hammer on February 9, 2008 at 12:37 AM

csdeven, you lost get over it already.

Chakra Hammer on February 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM

I didn’t lose. America lost. And all because of one dimensional thinking morons like you.

You must be so proud of the 100% dem controlled federal government that you have given us.

csdeven on February 9, 2008 at 12:41 AM

Yeah…..my ‘bonus’ check from the IRS will probably be taxed at the gift-tax rate. The next four years outta be wondamous. Can’t wait to help out with my wallet.

Limerick on February 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

You can’t even get to 2 dimensional thinking can you? Your lips are so firmly planted on McVanity’s ass that you can’t see anything.

I’m a Rudy supporter, I have never really been a McCain supporter.. ,but will vote for him and give him a chance.

I say,

Go Rudy!
Go McCain!

You can also, put your man on top..

In the end, we need to all have a common enemy, the Terrorists and the Democrats and the Democrats want to make us weaker to the Terrorists, by getting rid of the Patriot Act and other methods that have kept us safe.

Chakra Hammer on February 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

LOL…..face it Chakra….We are now the Miami Dolphins.

Limerick on February 9, 2008 at 12:54 AM

Landslide, baby. L a n d s l i d e. 84 kinda landslide. Look out cause the hill is coming for you.

Limerick on February 9, 2008 at 1:03 AM

Chakra Hammer on February 9, 2008 at 12:52 AM

If you’re trying to find a 100% conservative, he doesn’t exist for us. But if you properly Vet McLiar the way the other candidates have been and compare them, Mitt would have the nomination because he never stuck his finger in our eye out of spite. He did not governed as a liberal, but rather as a moderate who had to work with a liberal state legislature. You’ll wish McVanity had been scrutinized like Rudy was, because Rudy would be in McLiars spot just before Florida.

But, as it is, we get McFlipFlop and consequently, hello President Obillary!!

csdeven on February 9, 2008 at 1:08 AM

Limerick on February 9, 2008 at 1:03 AM

Just watch. If Obama looks like he’s gonna be the nominee, we’ll have Republican Congressmen retiring in herds to spend more time with their families and do a little lobbying,…mostly lobbying, in fact. They’re not going to beat their heads against a stone wall for 8 years. Go out when their selling price as a lobbyist is highest. That vacuum will be filled, districts gerrymandered, and pork will be king for a long time to come. Let the good times roll.

a capella on February 9, 2008 at 1:14 AM

LegendHasIt on February 9, 2008 at 1:18 AM

Big tip of the ol sombero on that one. Beer on it’s way to you FedX.

Limerick on February 9, 2008 at 1:19 AM

The regular Joe voter will find out about McDirtbags shameful behavior as a POW. His mom is a gibot. His wife is a drug thief. He is a flip flopping liar and is way too old and has too many health issues to be an effect president.
csdeven on February 9, 2008 at 12:42 AM

I thought csd you were off in the wilderness. Your defeatist, poisonous, repetitive bile against GOP candidates from Thompson to McCain is about as wholesome as a visit from ole Fred Phelps. If you had a conservative principle in your body you would have got behind Alan Keyes by now, who it so happens is still in the race.

Pax americana on February 9, 2008 at 1:26 AM