Of all the people who might convince me to vote for McCain, I must say that Bolton would be at the top of my list. (Funky Chicken and THE CHOSEN ONE would be at the bottom, under the snakes under a rock.) I completely trust Bolton’s conservative credentials.

Still – out with JUan Hernandez and name a conservative as VP first !!!

stenwin77 on February 9, 2008 at 10:14 AM

McCain is well aware of the conservative opinion of Mexico-first Hernandez and Hernandez is still proudly waving the red and green for McCain. McCain also has campaign honcho Rudman, the guy who pitched Souter for the Supreme Court

I still can’t figure how that sack of excrement got the nomination. I don’t care how much rationalizing I hear, I’m not voting for John Feingold-Kennedy-Hernandez NcCain.
Period.

Ernest on February 9, 2008 at 8:57 PM

He got it by having two buddies run as controlled-borders candidates and then hand him their votes. Then there is Huck, who seems to be an independent open borders Christian progressive candidate posing as a closed-borders Christian progressive candidate to get Christian votes and give them to McCain so Romney can’t have them.

McCain was the only overtly open borders candidate so the conservative vote scattered to the others and was handed back. Cheesy, sleazy and it worked

It lost me my trust in Fred for VP

These spoilers would rather McCain run and lose the election (and he will lose) than have Romney run, and possibly win control of the party. Even if McCain loses (and he will) the party will be purged of those who will not eat it and obey

This does not bode well for the GOP as a conservative party

Sadly, the big guys need cheap labor and non-conservative voters, because conservative voters will not support imported labor

To facilitate imported labor, the GOP must change from conservative, to moderate, and promote non-assimilation and amnesty to win the votes of the enfranchised imported laborers

While it is obvious the DEM party is more attractive to illegals, the moderates controlling the GOP do not care because they are facing an economic slide and will do anything to stop conservatives from closing the borders and ruining their portfolios

PROPOSITION I: The world war on terror is the most important issue facing America today, and it is of prime importance that the Commander-in-Chief be committed and able to win the war. PROPOSITION II: Between Hillary, Obamessiah and McCain, only……

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Bolton said it was now clear that he would be the nominee, and specifically addressed those who argue that conservatives would be better off in the long run if Democrats win and mess things up than if mistakes are associated with a …

That said, we *must* consider the alternatives. Obama & Clinton are singing the same chorus about pulling troops out of Iraq before the job is done. I know Clinton’s been strong on the war in the past, but now she’s playing true-to-form & basing her decision on the basis of Democrat polls.

The lives of American troops are at stake. Is casting a vote of conscience for a 3rd party candidate (who’d be sure to lose) worth the loss of American blood because of the carnage that would accompany the current Democrat war strategy?

Tim

So, Tim. We agree and disagree.

funky chicken has actually called me correctly; except it isn’t “lives”, just the war in Iraq. Being a bit dishonest there for shock value, but generally accurate.

If you come to me today and give me the following choice, I know how I’d make it.

Presume an evil Genie give you the following two choices for the world; and you must pick one.

1) Pull the troops out of Iraq.

2) Elect a President with no respect for the Constitution who will also immediately remove the Fist Amendment.

America can lose the war in Iraq and survive. I’m not as convinced that America can lose personal freedoms and survive.

So, I have to choose the “lesser of two evils”? Fine, but that ain’t McCain.

I’d like to have a candidate who would finish the win in Iraq, and protect Constitutional rights. I really would love that option. But it isn’t on the table anymore.

For some reason a majority of Republicans voting in the Primary have opted to give me the above choice. I’ll admit I feel sick about both options, but I’ve not seen anything that will switch my opinion of the “lesser evil” so far.

This is the first time in my life the Republicans have actually run the “worst” candidate; not just crappy, but worst.

If I’m wrong, how much of the Constitution are you willing to flush forever to save Iraq? How willing are you to have a precedent on the books for flushing more of the Constitution in the future to save Iraq? Oh, and what will America look like in 50 years if we set a precedent now of ignoring individual freedoms as a nation?

Now, funky chicken doesn’t give a damn about the Constitution if we can hold out on the War in Iraq. Somehow I think that’s a bit shortsighted; but he feels that the current war footing of America is more important than what America is. He’d let us be Nazi Germany tomorrow if we could simply win wars. (See, I can do over the top, exaggerations for shock value too)

We’re damned well going to lose something in the next few years. Either the War in Iraq, or the First Amendment of the Constitution (and a path to losing the rest of it).

I’m sorry we’re on different sides here, but losing Vietnam didn’t permanently cripple the nation (yes, it had a lasting effect, but it’s ebbing). However the New Deal, and it’s view of the Commerce Clause has made a considerably more huge difference in the scope and actions of the Federal Government, and where we are as a nation. And that change and the loss of the Constitutional rights that went with it haven’t subsided, but have increased.

So yes funky chicken, I believe that politics is more important than the war in Iraq (not quite what you said, but close).

You can disagree if you want, but I think keeping America as the “land of the free, home of the brave” is important.

However, moves like PROMISING BOLTON AS secretary of defense or Homeland Security would go a long way. Committing to surrounding himself with quality people that are acceptable/desirable to the base while he has time WILL bring us around.

Oh yeah, FIRE that weasel Hernandez and he better not have ANYTHING to do with McCain’s administration!!!!!!!!

Still – out with JUan Hernandez and name a conservative as VP first !!!

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:59 PM

I don’t think so. Those who disagree with John McCain don’t think closing GITMO, handling terrorists with Fisher Price interrogation methods and leaving our borders open for terrorists is the best way to execute the war.

stenwin77 on February 9, 2008 at 10:07 AM

Is NOT the best way to execute the war.

With all due respect to Bolton, I don’t think the point being made by the talking heads is to push a lefty into office would make things worse for a time, thus forcing things back to the right massively later, I think the point is that since we’ll be getting a lefty either way, why not let the dems take the blame. It’s more like “bad is bad” as opposed to “worse is worse.”

samuelrylander on February 8, 2008 at 8:39 PM

Another point to be considered is that our Republican elected representatives (what a joke they are) would be more likely to oppose liberal bills with a Dem president than a Rep Presidend. Don’t know if that is totally true or not, but it is worth considering.

I’ll vote for MCCain when he gets rid of Juan Hernandez and names a true conservative for VP… not before.

funky chicken on February 8, 2008 at 11:59 PM

I don’t think so. Those who disagree with John McCain don’t think closing GITMO, handling terrorists with Fisher Price interrogation methods and leaving our borders open for terrorists is the best way to execute the war.

Sometimes a tree is just a tree, folks.

Tree!?? The phrase is usually cigar. What exactly are you saying about Bolton here?

- The Cat

Or do you believe that McCain now respects free speech, doesn’t want to regulate political speech on the internet, and isn’t looking to do more damage to the Constitution?

gekkobear on February 8, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Not a bit. I agree…McCain hasn’t changed. He’s still against free speech, secure borders, etc. He’s the same McCain that joined the Gang of 14.

That said, we *must* consider the alternatives. Obama & Clinton are singing the same chorus about pulling troops out of Iraq before the job is done. I know Clinton’s been strong on the war in the past, but now she’s playing true-to-form & basing her decision on the basis of Democrat polls.

The lives of American troops are at stake. Is casting a vote of conscience for a 3rd party candidate (who’d be sure to lose) worth the loss of American blood because of the carnage that would accompany the current Democrat war strategy?

If McAmnesty should win, maybe, just perhaps, we’ll have a chance to keep the whole ship from sinking … (I have to hold out some hope!)

If McAmnesty wins it means the end of the Republican Party. There’s no point in tracking left to play catch up. It didn’t work for the British Conservative Party. The Republicans need to go further right and wait for the public to catch up.

This guy’s entire history is one of standing by his principles even though it was personally harmful to his career at Foggy Bottom.

SteveMG on February 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM

I personally loathe McCain. My skin crawls when I think of voting for him. But I suspect Bolton is right, and my Mom, Got rest her soul, taught me better than sitting out an election. (If you sit this one out, you lose your right to complain!) I have this deep-seated misgiving that Obama will win if conservatives bail. I’ve lived through Carter’s stagflation and studied economics while he ruined the economy. I watched the Clinton’s ruin the US name and reputation. Obama? Will take our country down faster than imaginable. At best he is inexperienced, planless, and good at speech making (”si se puede” just in English).

But talk don’t mean squat when the economy is failing. I can’t even think how long it will take to rebuild, should he be elected. If McAmnesty should win, maybe, just perhaps, we’ll have a chance to keep the whole ship from sinking … (I have to hold out some hope!)

Not here in NE. We were so PO’d at our Rino Senator for his idiotic opposition to Bush & the WOT that we ran his a$$ out!! He is not running for re-election, thanks to emails to the state republican party. They got the hint real fast, once you said, “Not a Dime or a Vote unless…

There will be a new sherrif in NE.

PappaMac on February 8, 2008 at 7:40 PM

Great work! Keep it up. We need the entire congress, both houses, to get that kind of cleaning. Professional politicians are ruing this country by buying votes with our money to stay in power. It;s sick. When will we do something about it?