McCain: I respect your racist, nativist position on immigration
posted at 4:39 pm on February 7, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The speech went over well enough that it wouldn’t be fair to focus on the one tense moment so I’ve tacked on the stirring conclusion at the end as a tonic to the atomic pander you’re about to watch. “I respect your opposition for I know that the vast majority of critics to the bill based their opposition in a principled defense of the rule of law,” sayeth the Maverick. This, after once having called a proposal to cap his guest-worker plan at a mere 650,000 un-American and having compared guest workers’ tax treatment to Jim Crow. His chief crony’s sickening demagoguery in front of La Raza has been revisited enough times that we don’t need to rehash it, but let it be noted once again as part of the record. Today’s ass-kissing was a good start but it’ll take a few more speeches like these before we’re even at the let’s-pretend stage of believing he respects the anti-amnesty position.
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OK, I give in to all of you. I’ll vote for Hillary or Obama…
No problem there — as long as I can manage do without decent health care for the rest of my life, learn to live with terrorist attacks on US soil, and figure out how to retire with all my income going to taxes and with Social Security bankrupt — shouldn’t be too hard…
db on February 7, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Well. McCain pressed all the right buttons at CPAC, which is what a politician does when speaking before any crowd as a matter of ingratiation.
He did make only one concession about closing the borders, but was vague as to what he would do about the illegals after that.
He implied he wasn’t going to change his past actions, but implored those at CPAC to ‘understand’ them. The trouble is, they do understand and don’t like them.
I think after his ‘flowery’ talk is digested by the CPAC members and conservatives in general, they’ll realize that he really offered them nothing specific but more platitudes.
pocomoco on February 7, 2008 at 5:37 PM
You made my point for me. EVEN with Bush, amnesty did NOT go through, so what are you so afraid of?
That McVain is “somehow” going to make it happen by magic?
Will your phone be broken?
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 5:37 PM
@ BobUSMC on February 7, 2008 at 5:35 PM
What db says is plain BS. Dont bring the well being of the troops into this, as you have no clue as to what they want. If you are going to shill for McCain, at least claim its for the good of the country, not the good of the troops. The troops, through their donations, have voted they want out of Iraq.
muyoso on February 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM
“I will secure the border first.”
Translation: Before granting shamnesty i will add 15 more miles of fencing and send a whopping 100 more troops to the border (who won’t be allowed to confront illegals, nor carry weapons while on patrol).
jjcarrillo on February 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM
“Vote for McCain or the Hildebeest wins!”
Pathetic.
I hate the cow with a purple passion, but if there’s one thing I’m NOT, then it’s afraid of a second-rate, inexperienced, incompetent, Stalinist harridan. I’ve survived worse. MUCH worse.
And I’m certainly not skeeeeeered enough of her to sacrifice my sacred honor and Oath to the Constitution by voting for the sleaziest bag of excrement to come down the pike. McAmnesty can take his bromides, wrap them around a stick, wrap the stick in razor wire and shove it. Sideways. Then rotate it.
Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees, licking the hand that beats you.
A lot of people in this country need therapy for their battered spouse syndrome.
Misha I on February 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM
You are going to secure the borders first and “not until we have achieved widespread consensus” will you give free passes to all of the illegals…. Let me guess, the Gramnesty-Kennedy Consensus Commission will let us know when that occurs.
“defends the rule of law and doesn’t encourage another wave of illegal immigration” - uh, Hey John, There is a law. It’s against the law to come into our country, hence the term illegal immigration. Follow the law. Prosecute the illegals! How hard is that to understand? The fact that you didn’t have the cajones to speak out while it has been going on your entire
janitorialsenatorial career is your fault, not us bigots.“I have made mistakes, you can attest to that, but need not, need not, for I know them myself”…… uh, yeah, but we totally disagree what those mistakes were. We think you made a mistake with the gangbang of 14, you think it was a mistake that you didn’t keep it more secretive. That and the fact you really think it was a mistake not to get the Fairness Doctrine passed. Had you accomplished that you would be soaring in the polls right now.
“our counsel and support” - have you ever accepted conservative counsel? I see Teddy, and Joe.
You have the nomination, my friend, be careful what you wish for. You will go down in history, my friend, if you get elected, as the republican equivalent to Jimmy Carter. You may even get a Nobel Prize. But the conservative movement will regain the control of this party, not only because of you, my friend, but because of you. And as we dismantle all of the socialist roadblocks that you put in place my friend, we will curse your name. You have destroyed yourself.
That is your mistake. My Friend……
JeffinOrlando on February 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Why don’t people UNDERSTAND this?
The vote for McVain is NOT just so the troops don’t have to salute Hillary or Obama, it’s ALSO for the good of the country, because as we have been trying to tell you, once you remove EMOTION from all this rhetoric, the SIMPLE FACT is that McVain is STILL better than the alternative.
And your phone STILL works, so you can shut down the switchboard again, if need be.
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 5:42 PM
I do not like McCain and I’m sure he can’t be fully trusted on the immigration issue. Nonetheless, in a race against Obama, which is increasingly possible, he has a shot. Face it, Republicans have no shot at a decent percentage of the black vote. Democrats have created a drug like dependance on the government dole and have managed an important propaganda campaign against the free enterprise system in the black community. Of course, Republicans must work to reduce and eventually eliminate these disadvantages but if Obama is the candidate he’ll get 80-85% of the black vote no matter what.
Now, the Democrat Party is playing a shell game with identity politics which will come under attack when they try to classify blacks and hispanics simultaneously as their most favored minority group deserving special privileges. It won’t work and many hispanics won’t say so in public but will privately pull the McCain lever considering him a closet ally.
Hillary could play the game better than Obama since, not being a member of either group, she could be an equal opportunity panderer. (Fortunately, she has other problems.)
Annar on February 7, 2008 at 5:43 PM
CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!
But I STILL gotta vote for McVain, because he IS better than her.
And I don’t want ANY military personnel to have to salute Madame President Clinton… or that damn marxist Obama.
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Please quit repeating things you can’t back up with reliable sources. Also see the previous post:
db on February 7, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Too bad he’s so old. He’ll have to look and seem and act younger to win.
Halley on February 7, 2008 at 5:46 PM
@ Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Thats fine, but just dont argue its for “the good of our troops”. If you want to argue its for the good of our military as a whole, fine. Good of our country, fine. But don’t argue that the 18-20 year olds fighting and dying overseas WANT McCain as president, and him as president would be fulfilling their wishes. They obviously don’t.
muyoso on February 7, 2008 at 5:46 PM
@ db on February 7, 2008 at 5:46 PM
WTF are you talking about, go back and read my damn post. Is the FEC reliable enough for you?? Its their statistics. Its not my fault you can’t read.
muyoso on February 7, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Agreed.
Under Clinton 1.0, the DoD lost 300,000 jobs, closed almost 1/2 of all military installations, “Dont Ask, Don’t Tell” became military ploicy, and women like Pvt Jessica Lynch served on the front lines.
What do you think Clinton 2.0 will do to top that?
I know…. Spitballs.
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Ok, its a lib win of the WH. So lets start talking about winning congress.
Iblis on February 7, 2008 at 5:52 PM
I second that and raise you a “write in Fred”.
TheSitRep on February 7, 2008 at 5:52 PM
@ Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM
I honestly think Hillary wouldnt do much to the military. To the intelligence field, maybe. But she is just pandering to her base now. There is no way she would risk pulling out of Iraq and being blamed with whatever calamity comes to Iraq if any. She just wouldnt do it.
muyoso on February 7, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Yes!
Si se puede!!!
Heh.
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 5:53 PM
“I respect your opposition for I know that the vast majority of critics to the bill based their opposition in a principled defense of the rule of law”
…as if the oposition was “merely” some legalistic fix to some arcane error in the law. Wrongo. The oposition is about national security and about fairness. His attempt to
mend fencesmake nice was counter-productive.dont taze me bro on February 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Eh? Did every single one of you miss the part where he blatantly lied about supporting the Bush tax cuts?
Jose Chupacabra on February 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM
The FEC posts their data on a Canadian web site? You are a real piece of work, I gotta say…
db on February 7, 2008 at 5:55 PM
And I give you this…
Excerpt: During her speech at last June’s Take Back America Conference, CODEPINK members held up signs saying, “Lead us out of Iraq,” Hillary’s response was, “That’s exactly what I’m trying to do, ladies.”
In September 2007, Hillary Clinton announced via her campaign web site that the number one reason to support her for President was “To end the war in Iraq.”
She did say so…
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Dood! Don’t look at the shiny thing. Look here…loook…loook
http://www.juanhernandez.org/
ronsfi on February 7, 2008 at 5:57 PM
I personally believe that Juan McVain would build a BRIDGE to Mexico waaaaaaaaaaaay before he would build a fence.
But my phone is not broken. I will use it again. We all would.
There is NOT a good enough reason to let the Democrats DESTROY America, because we stayed home or voted for the other party out of spite.
It hurts us all, and you know it.
I’ll take a “bad” republican ANYDAY over a “good” DemocRat. Period.
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 6:00 PM
We need to start preparing to be the party in opposition. Our only front for that is the legislature. Time to get cracking on some candidates. Full court press.
spmat on February 7, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Hey db… I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one pushing for us to remember the larger stakes, and to quit being so angry. I see that you have reconciled the fact that you will, against all better judgement, be voting for McVain. I hope that when everyone takes all those knives out of their backs, and stops being mad, they’ll calm down and see that the alternative is much worse.
So thanks.
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 6:05 PM
All they need is a pair of these. But read the fine print…
NTWR on February 7, 2008 at 6:07 PM
McCain can sit on it and rotate.
Tim Burton on February 7, 2008 at 6:08 PM
If I get done pulling those knives out, I’ll be busy jamming them between McSwine’s ribs. Any chance I get. This election season is going to be sooooooooo much fun.
Misha I on February 7, 2008 at 6:08 PM
You too.
If they don’t get over it, I sure hope they don’t need health care for those wounds ;^)
db on February 7, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Can you say a third set of dorms: male/female/other (gay/bi/transgender). That’ll be good for the military.
jwp1964 on February 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM
@ db on February 7, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Canadian website? Did you not see the SOURCE links that I provided? That link directly to the FEC reports??? How dishonest can you be?
muyoso on February 7, 2008 at 6:21 PM
We need to have the body language lady to tell us what he’s REALLY saying.
or
Hook him up to a lie detector while he’s giving this speech.
The speech was adequate…he didn’t have much of a choice it seems to say what he said.
SouthernGent on February 7, 2008 at 6:31 PM
LOL!
Hey, wait a minute… let’s NOT give them idears! LOL
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Tee, Hee.
RushBaby on February 7, 2008 at 6:37 PM
A good start. Now all he has to do is back down on his support of the Global Warming hoax, and throw a bone to serious domestic energy development be it more drilling, nuclear, etc., and then he’ll get my vote.
JeffB. on February 7, 2008 at 6:39 PM
I will not vote for McCain. Period.
Montana on February 7, 2008 at 6:41 PM
I’m with ya sister/brother. Lets vote down ballot and hope there isn’t a huge loss of congress and senate seats.
jwp1964 on February 7, 2008 at 6:45 PM
McCain will be a 20-point underdog as soon as Hillary is nominated, all these push polls that the left wing media put out to try and fake people out that McCain could beat Hillary will disappear. The same media that gave us McClinton will beat him to death. This is going to be an easy and early night come November. I figure McClinton will get seven states tops. But the down side is it is going to also give the democrats a veto proof senate for years to come. All you folks need to learn to say “Madam President”, learn it, love it. I am saying this after being a voting republican for 41 years.
pwb on February 7, 2008 at 6:48 PM
I want a pledge signed in his blood to renounce Amnesty, and one of his children held as insurance in an undisclosed location until after the fence is built.
profitsbeard on February 7, 2008 at 6:48 PM
muyoso on February 7, 2008 at 6:21 PM
db on February 7, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Surely, he’ll do at least as much as George has, he’ll try to seal the border and then legalize 30 million illegal aliens with benefits and totalization S.S.
That is unless George doesn’t do it first.
Surely, the nodding of the camera is indicative.
Speakup on February 7, 2008 at 6:52 PM
McCain is GOING TO DESTROY WHAT’S LEFT OF OUR PARTY AND FINISH WHAT BUSH HAD BEGUN.
I’m still with Mitt!. He has opened our eyes to the conservative movement again.
madmonkphotog on February 7, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Flowers, Honey?? Thank you!
You’re apologizing for throwing me down the stairs again last night? I forgive you Darling, Oh, I love you too!
What a beautiful box of candy! Is that for me? ! How sweet!
You really are sorry, aren’t you!!
My eye?? My eye will be fine, Sweetheart!
Yes, the doctor said the swelling will be gone in no time. I can get the stitches out in a few weeks. No, I realize it wasn’t all your fault. I shouldn’t have made you so mad! I need to just mind my place more!
And that cracked rib will heal right up! I know you didn’t mean to kick me so hard.
Yes, Honey, I
JellyToast on February 7, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Fine, McCain sponsors CFR. Then sues the FEC to try to make them apply it to internet communication; and now wants the job of appointing FEC Commissioners.
Has he changed his mind on the First Amendment, or are you asking me to give up my freedoms in return for security? Lets just give the First Amendment away, we don’t need free speech; and in return we’ll close Gitmo and let terrorists have U.S. Courts and defenders.
Woohoo, I’m motivated now. How can we fail?
SORRY, I didn’t see the NEED to randomly CAPITALIZE certain words to SHOW that I’m not filled with EMOTION. But that is OFTEN the sign of CRAZY RAMBLING instead of rational DEBATE.
gekkobear on February 7, 2008 at 7:09 PM
When we killed the Shamnesty bill I swore I would never vote for McCain and I meant it. NEVER!
Buzzy on February 7, 2008 at 7:12 PM
My decision on McCain is made. The only thing that has the possibility of changing it is his Veep choice.
If his Veep sucks as much as he does, he ain’t getting my vote.
Enoxo on February 7, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Chasing back on some of the links above, I found this to be absolutely eerie:
Unfortunately, Snake307 was wrong.
Shamnesty ‘09 will kill this country - permanently.
Start manning the phones and FAXes!
fred5678 on February 7, 2008 at 7:15 PM
db and Cali, Jesus. I’m not voting “D” (read my website FCS) If the Constitution Party has the most conservative person I will vote for it. Whatever label the person has that is the most conservative I will vote for that person (most often not a “D”).
bucktowndusty on February 7, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Come back, Fred! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!
*sobs*
LissaKay on February 7, 2008 at 7:33 PM
bucktowndusty,
I’m just trying to point out that as bad as McCain is, Hillary and/or Obama would be far, far worse. McCain really doesn’t stand much of a chance against either one of them unless we all come back to reality and realize that voting for an obscure candidate that can’t possibly win or simply not voting will make the Dem a sure thing. We now know that we won;t be teaching the Reps a lesson — it sure didn’t work in ‘06. The only thing we can do is try to put the lesser of the evils in office and then concentrate on rebuilding the conservative movement and try to take back the House and Senate.
db on February 7, 2008 at 7:35 PM
I get you, SORRY, MY bad.
But NOT voting for McVain and allowing the dems in the White House purely out of spite is also a sign of dementia…
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 7:37 PM
CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Maybe we’ll all get lucky and some little-known McCain sex scandal will leak out before the convention, forcing Juan and Cindy into a permanent retreat. If so, I can see 2 benefits: 1) we get to start fresh at the convention, and 2) McCain gets to live out his diaper yrs surrounded by the people he loves best, the Mexican illegals trying to annex Arizona… he can be their leader.
This Party needs an enema.
Gartrip on February 7, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Of course they want out. And they sure don’t want to be there for fifty years or as Juan McSurgo said, “Make it a Hundred!”
I am sure that they would like to at least see the last of Iraq before they have to start speaking Spanish in what used to be the U.S.A.
Anyone who has been in a dragged out war zone should know that, unless there have rewritten their memories.
MB4 on February 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM
And I also know that they would absolutely hate having to salute President Obama or Madame President Clinton!
Califemme on February 7, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Exactly.
BCS (Battered Conservative Syndrome).
Please Senor Juan may I have another punch in the mouth?
I love you. Just tell me you forgive me for angering you before and tell me that you love me too.
Pathetic!
MB4 on February 7, 2008 at 8:09 PM
And how! We need to start with the RNC. Someone needs to do some serious digging around to find out what the idiots there think they are doing. They are the reason we’re in this awful mess. Some serious house cleaning is needed there.
db on February 7, 2008 at 8:10 PM
And I am just as sure that they would rather salute President Obama or Madame President Clinton over here than el Presidente Juan Plantation McNastyMan over there!
MB4 on February 7, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Somewhere between blanket amnesty and mass deportation at gunpoint lies the answer. The sooner we admit that some illegal immigrants will be able to stay, the sooner we can actually get something done on immigration. Most of the outrage over the immigration bill was that border enforcement was not emphasized enough.
myamphibian on February 7, 2008 at 8:52 PM
…that is what McCain means when he says the people don’t trust government to fix the border mess. If McCain is in favor of open borders like many here say, why was border security not left out of his bill entirely?
myamphibian on February 7, 2008 at 8:55 PM
I’m moving to FRANCE…….
At least they have a hard-azz conservative playboy at the helm for once……
awesum on February 7, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Seems like someone should file a federal suit asking them to enjoin congress from diluting our constitutional vote with those of criminals. But then I am still amazed that here in Houston, if an officer stops a van for a routine traffic stop and finds 15 Hispanics with no license, id, or visas and not one can speak english (a requirement of gaining citizenship) they can’t call ICE? Seems to me that a buss load of Americans in the same situation in any other country in the world would be treated much differently.
rgranger on February 8, 2008 at 12:05 AM
With Cornyn about to endorse ole “F-Bomb” McCain, you guys seriously think we’ll be able to rebuild the Republican party with him in power? You’re delusional.
Every bloody Senator and House member is going to say “Right Chief!” so they retain their Congressional seat, and you think we can build around that sycophancy?
You don’t solve a problem by allowing it to continue.
Just because McCain served doesn’t mean he is good for the troops. Yes, he was a POW so he won’t screw them the same way other Presidents have, but he wants to close Gitmo which means from now until the second coming, any time we are in a war and encounter enemy combatants, they will get Constitutional rights and public defenders.
That is about as anti-troops as you can get. Here, risk your life soldier, so when we capture terrorists that tried to kill you, your tax dollars can go to the public defenders hired to help them so they get full access to the appellate system and whatever lawsuits the ACLU decides to fund! It is so crazy and wrong, I don’t know where to begin.
If you define McCain being ‘good’ to the troops only within the parameters of he won’t bring them home tomorrow, you’re right. But it’s much more than that.
Think about it… McCain cares more about terrorists being offered additional rights than he does about protecting the free speech of law-abiding legal Americans.
As an aside, neither Hillary or Obama would give a timetable during the debates for the time to withdrawal. They know, especially with the surge going well, that they’ll look like yellow bellies if they leave now.
There are dozens of things McCain could have said that would have softened me. Things like, “I’m sorry the rhetoric during the immigration debate got so heated on our side”, “I will not allow millions of people who broke the law to benefit from it”, “I’m sorry I didn’t support the tax cuts the first time around and used class warfare to disparage them; it won’t happen again”, “I understand that people are upset by campaign finance laws and I certainly think perhaps it was a bit draconian and we could revisit it”, “I’m going to fire Juan Hernandez as soon as I f-ing get out of here, I promise”, “I’m sorry it took you guys calling so much for me to get a clue” are a few. He needed to admit responsibility and own up; he didn’t.
By the way, if you’re going to vote for McCain in November, you might want to invest in these:
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1726
linlithgow on February 8, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Ok, so you can clarify where I’m going wrong?
McCain didn’t sue the FEC in 2005 to force them to regulate political speech on the internet?
McCain has changed his opinion on CFR since 2005?
The President doesn’t get to select FEC Commissioners?
Regulating political speech on the internet, treating non-journalist blogging as “in kind” donations deserving of fines, and stopping issue communications within 60 days of an election isn’t worth fighting against?
Sorry, I’m missing the part that I got wrong. McCain was worked long and hard to remove the First Amendment regarding political speech and I don’t think he’s done. Everything he’s done in the past points to him continuing this line of attack, and I’m certainly not willing to support the destruction of Constitutionally protected rights; regardless of which party is trying to dismantle the Constitution.
What part of that is dementia?
Or is blocking Hillary/Obama worth damaging the Constitution for? I don’t disagree that Hillary/Obama is bad, but in my book, McCain is worse.
gekkobear on February 8, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Well let’s look at the bright side. He’s old and crazy enough, he might just nuke Iran. I coulf see it now… Hey Amdinnerjihad go f*ck yourself!BOOM!!!!!!!!!Mushroom clouds really are beautiful.
HotAirExpert on February 8, 2008 at 1:13 AM
POST OF THE YEAR!
fossten on February 8, 2008 at 8:05 AM
Good grief, Geraldo is on Fox & Friends right now arrogantly warning that McCain just BETTER not tack to the right on this issue b/c he will lose the hispanic vote and then will lose the election.
Then Geraldo goes on to say that he wouldn’t have voted for Mitt because of his stance on illegal immigration (even though Mitt told him his only concern was with illegal immigrants) and told Mitt this on O’Reilly because “we all look alike.” I had to turn the channel. Am I wrong to think that criminals who look like me should not get a pass? Am I missing something?
hollygolightly on February 8, 2008 at 8:29 AM
I wonder if the ACLU would get involved in the First Amendment problem that we have with McCain if he were elected. They would be fighting a R, after all.
melda on February 8, 2008 at 11:03 AM
And the difference between them & McCain[The Manchurian Candidate] is?
Blackhawk45 on February 8, 2008 at 11:44 AM
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