Comments on: Zogby on being off by 23 points in California: These things happen

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Zogby: Palin may have neutralized Obama’s convention bounce

Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:48:00 +0000

[...] Has it come to this, my friends? Convincing ourselves that everything’s going to be okay with data harvested by a guy who blew the California primary by 23 points? [...]

By: Zetterson

Zetterson — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:31:30 +0000

How in the world can you make any substantive judgment without complete and accurate information on the methodologies used along with details on how they were executed?

You have to get your head around the fact that you can accidentally arrive at the right result. Ask my 8 year old. He does it all the time.

TheBigOldDog on February 6, 2008 at 5:59 PM

Hmmm. Spoken like a true atheist.

By: TheBigOldDog

TheBigOldDog — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:44:33 +0000

Reading his polls is like reading the coffee grounds in the bottom of your cup.

cjs1943 on February 6, 2008 at 8:32 PM

Except the grounds in the bottom of the cup accurately and consistently reflect what has been consumed.

By: cjs1943

cjs1943 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 01:32:21 +0000

Zogby has never had an accurate poll. Reading his polls is like reading the coffee grounds in the bottom of your cup.

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:43:53 +0000

The polls influence voting. Period. They should have to pay fines for every percentage point they are off.

No one else would get away with such incompetence.

stenwin77 on February 6, 2008 at 7:04 PM

Yea! Make them do something..

the get paid either way..

By: SoulGlo

SoulGlo — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:07:40 +0000

Underestimated Hispanic turnout? Come on. You could have thought up a better lie than that.

By: fourstringfuror

fourstringfuror — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:05:10 +0000

Ain’t that the truth! Rossi 08!!

ihasurnominashun on February 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM

She’s not my governor.

By: stenwin77

stenwin77 — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:04:38 +0000

The polls influence voting. Period. They should have to pay fines for every percentage point they are off.

No one else would get away with such incompetence.

By: Dusty

Dusty — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:51:30 +0000

Blogospheric boycott too?

I say give him another chance provided he promises to stand closer to his dartboard.

By: ihasurnominashun

ihasurnominashun — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:48:46 +0000

The fix is in. Gregoire in WA state showed how to steal elections.

It’s happening right in front of our eyes.

mksmithwriter on February 6, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Ain’t that the truth! Rossi 08!!

By: landlines

landlines — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:45:37 +0000

Liberal pollsters:

What??? Wishing for something doesn’t make it actually happen???

By: msipes

msipes — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:41:31 +0000

My Obama loving friends in Colorado were hoping so much for that Zogby polled to be right. Of course, I warned them not to trust this guy. He is never right and most pundits don’t use him. Of course the MSM uses him because he always goes with the person they love to push on the American people.

By: amerpundit

amerpundit — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:29:11 +0000

That was intensional, to be able to explain away the mistake.

Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 6:06 PM

You’re joking, right?

By: ronsfi

ronsfi — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:28:50 +0000

It appears that we underestimated Hispanic turnout and overestimated the importance of younger Hispanic voters. We also overestimated turnout among African-American voters.

Other than that they were spot on

By: TX Mom

TX Mom — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:27:57 +0000

There has to have been an average HA IQ reduction of at least 40 points since the last registration, and that’s only due to about a half dozen posters. Be loud and be proud.

a capella on February 6, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Whew! Good thing I raised it by so many points or just think how awful the average would be! ;-)

By: fogw

fogw — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:26:10 +0000

It appears that we underestimated Hispanic turnout and overestimated the importance of younger Hispanic voters. We also overestimated turnout among African-American voters.

I get it now. Zogby’s estimations would have been right on the money were it not for his foolish underestimating and overestimating.

Okey Dokey.

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:24:49 +0000

Thank you Hammer for your wisdom.

Cold Steel on February 6, 2008 at 6:21 PM

Hey everyone, can I get me some applause already!

(I wish this website had smilies)

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:22:10 +0000

I kid a capella, but i will not vote for Hillary! :)

By: Cold Steel

Cold Steel — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:21:04 +0000

Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 5:59 PM

You’re being way overpaid. There has to have been an average HA IQ reduction of at least 40 points since the last registration, and that’s only due to about a half dozen posters. Be loud and be proud.

a capella on February 6, 2008 at 6:12 PM

The Hammer knows all. The Hammer tells us when to start commenting, and when to stop commenting. If you stray, you’ll be subjected to hundreds of meaningless single sentence posts with random faces. Thank you Hammer for your wisdom.

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:18:42 +0000

You’re being way overpaid. There has to have been an average HA IQ reduction of at least 40 points since the last registration, and that’s only due to about a half dozen posters. Be loud and be proud.

a capella on February 6, 2008 at 6:12 PM

I take that as a compliment.. Sounds like you believe the latest registration let in some smart folks? >:}

By: a capella

a capella — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:12:53 +0000

Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 5:59 PM

You’re being way overpaid. There has to have been an average HA IQ reduction of at least 40 points since the last registration, and that’s only due to about a half dozen posters. Be loud and be proud.

By: Valiant

Valiant — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:12:32 +0000

Zogby was the only one to call the 1994 GOP landslide and thus became Rush’s favorite pollster.

By: stacman

stacman — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:09:39 +0000

Zogby is always smoking something up there in Utica. A dead end Hillbilly town in upstate New York (I know, I grew up in those parts). As always, his predictions are skewed 180 degrees. If he does take a poll it’s of 500 people and he thinks he can call a state with 30 million people. Personally, I think he just keeps his name in there as an expert by taking the average of all the other pollers and calls it his own…
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Yeah! Romney up +8 in California. Must be that local weed again. You have to get some good stuff so you don’t hallucinate anymore…

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:09:38 +0000

Ras polls, are the worst IMHO..(someone needs to kill that daily tracking)

By: Chakra Hammer

Chakra Hammer — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:08:25 +0000

See it a was a bi-partisan F-up.. (nothing to see here)