Video: Michelle duels Linda Chavez on McCain’s ability to unite the GOP
posted at 12:18 pm on February 6, 2008 by Bryan
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Just before this segment, John McCain delivered a brief impromptu speech in which he called for party unity under his banner, which he described as conservative. Michelle makes all the good and serious points against McCain, while Linda Chavez trots out McCain’s lifetime ACU rating of 83. That’s true, but what about the recent trend? The devil’s in the details, to say the least. Since 2001 McCain been “growing” in office, scoring just a 65 in 2006. And 83 makes him the 39th most conservative member of the Senate. That’s what rightly worries conservatives.
Can he unite this fractured party? As Michelle says, it’ll take action, not just words.
McCain has a crucial chance at CPAC Thursday.
Update: The beauty of blogs — Michelle follows up on the brief segment here.
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Juan McCain intoning the spirit of conservatism as his rallying cry is like Dracula doing donate blood PSAs for Vlad’s local community blood bank.
normsrevenge on February 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM
I hope the conservatives at CPAC greet him in true McCain-Feingold fashion.
Theworldisnotenough on February 6, 2008 at 12:22 PM
I’m getting video unavailable.
amkun on February 6, 2008 at 12:22 PM
There wasn’t much time to even start to duel her on anything. Here are my follow-up comments.
Michelle on February 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Can we that are behind the filter get the video from Red Lasso?
Theworldisnotenough on February 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Ditto.
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM
I about choked on my Fruit Loops. The worst part I wasn’t even eating.
- The Cat
MirCat on February 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM
But it will also take those who are conservative Republicans to reach out too and not act like teenagers.
bnelson44 on February 6, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I was screaming at my television over Chavez having the last word when it was misleading.
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 12:24 PM
83 lifetime, eh?
Ever heard of a sports team making a free-agent decision on a players lifetime scoring average? They don’t…they look at the last two seasons, maybe, and then make an offer.
Or don’t.
McCain is a little too old to be going on ‘potential’.
Asher on February 6, 2008 at 12:25 PM
McCain wants the Republicans to morph into Dems.
Why go from a dragonfly to a carnivorous grub?
profitsbeard on February 6, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Video no longer available? :-(
cannonball on February 6, 2008 at 12:26 PM
I don’t like this dueling analogy. The party needs to come together to make sure the Democrats don’t get in office and we have a mass retirement of old liberal justices to be replaced with young liberal justices. Not to mention the mess they will make out of the WOT. The time for dualing is quickly passing. It is time now for reconciliation.
bnelson44 on February 6, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Why are people so willing to give Reagan a pass on the amnesty?
I’m unwilling to do so. He should have anticipated what would happen.
amkun on February 6, 2008 at 12:28 PM
It’s February, CPAC still hasn’t happened, and McCain hasn’t yet tried to make an attempt to reach out to conservatives. The time for dueling to go away has not yet come.
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 12:29 PM
And some Republicans would still pull the lever for the party’s candidate if his name was Obama.
Frankly I see little use in electing someone that actively fights against issues I consider important just because he has an ‘R’ in front of his name. Having a two-party system that basically pursues the same issues, just with different time tables, isn’t much of a choice.
Asher on February 6, 2008 at 12:29 PM
I am getting a bumper sticker on my BMW:
“Another Republican suicide bomber for Hillary”.
Roger Waters on February 6, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Chavez is turning into another Andrew Sullivan, i.e. someone who once could be looked at as reasonably conservative, but who sold out all of her principles over one issue.
thirteen28 on February 6, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Reagan is rolling in his grave. I hope that he and Goldwater are up there plotting something big for us. If not, McCain and his “gang” will rip apart this party, and it will take the next generation to put it back together again. Fortunately, I’m still young enough (45) to hope to live to see it. And BTW, if I have to help take it apart, I have a hammer and a chainsaw, and I’m more than willing to use it. Good luck Hillary… just leave the sofa’s when you’re done this time. Thanks.
Gartrip on February 6, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Don’t blame us for democrats and idependents teaming up to put a liberal on top of the Republican ticket. Don’t blame us for Huckabee and McCain both realizing they can’t beat Romney on their own and forming an alliance in order to ensure that they best candidate doesn’t end up at the top of the ticket. Don’t blame us for realizing that we now have a one party system. Why vote if there is only one party to choose from? I see no good reasons.
And bnelson44, if Romney wasn’t the best of the 3 candidates why did the other 2 have to team up in order to defeat him?
bnelson44, you can attempt to talk us into voting for McCain by acting like a complete A-hole and calling us “teenagers” or you can just STFU and realize there is nothing that you can ever say in order to convince me to get to the polling place and pull the lever for McCain. After the way he has betrayed me? After all the times he has lied to my face and followed it with a smirk? Not a chance. Never. Not in this lifetime. Over my dead body.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM
The primary is all but over and CPAC is tomorrow.
bnelson44 on February 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Bryan, video no longer available.
abinitioadinfinitum on February 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Video is no longer available..
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Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Pink Floyd reference or your actual name?
Yoosaion on February 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM
They expected about 1.5 million illegals to get amnesty; about twice that number signed up. Still, that’s a small fraction of what we’re facing now. Plus the idea at the time was to crack down on illegal immigration, and they did make an effort with regards to employer verification.
In the end it was a largely unprecedented but failed experiment- and happened over 20 years ago. Now we know better. Well, some of us do.
Hollowpoint on February 6, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I got news for ya – if the party is this fractured and this unmotivated this late in the game, it’s over. While the Democrats are having a spirited battle for their nomination, it’s pretty damn clear from turnout numbers that they are highly motivated this cycle.
Face it. The writing is on the wall, and it’s in big, flashing, neon letters. We are going to get crushed in November. McCain supporters should enjoy their Pyrrhic victory now, because they are at or close to the high point.
thirteen28 on February 6, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Read about the history of primary campaigns. The way this primary went is very, very similar to the ones in the past. As for WV, it was a convention. Read about conventions in the past, the WV convention went the way most all of them do.
bnelson44 on February 6, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Read this quote from Michelle:
Where Reagan’s fault lies on that one is that he actually trusted the Democrats to uphold their end of the bargain with border enforcement. All the more reason why we shouldn’t make that mistake again (with respect to both Democrats as well as open-borders Republicans).
thirteen28 on February 6, 2008 at 12:38 PM
After the way he has betrayed me? After all the times he has lied to my face and followed it with a smirk? Not a chance. Never. Not in this lifetime. Over my dead body.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM
My thoughts exactly. I’m abstaining in the Presidential category and donating my “Romney ear-marked” donation to my local folks who will definitely need it. In my house: no votes for McCain and no $$$ either. Period.
Gartrip on February 6, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I didn’t see the video… but from the quote, you need to give the Mac Attack a chance don’t you?
And maybe tone down the rhetoric towards him..
Takes 2 to Tango.. or something like that..
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 12:38 PM
That doesn’t mean criticism of him stops by conservatives. Again, he has yet to try to compromise with us. Again, we’ll see how CPAC goes. Today is today.
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 12:38 PM
If we’re going to get “crushed” in November with McCain, why can’t you acknowledge that we would get “crushed” in November with Romney, probably even more so?
amkun on February 6, 2008 at 12:39 PM
You don’t think the democrats are going to be fractured after Hillary wins?
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Thanks for your comments. Fact is, Reagan trusted Ted Kennedy, disturbing enough in its own right. I’m willing to say it was a failed experiment, but the whitewashing of it just because it was “Reagan’s” amnesty or whatever doesn’t fly.
amkun on February 6, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Not if Obama is on the ticket. It IS OVER !!!
Newt – HELP US !!
stenwin77 on February 6, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Let’s not be fools.
I don’t like McCain either. But, I’ll be damned if I will sit at home or vote Democratic in November for no other reason than the Supreme Court.
Crappy legislation, whether from a RINO or a left-winger can be undone. Supreme Court confirmations are for life, and a far-left Justice will have implications far into my childrens lifetime.
I will not be a party to handing the Presidency to Hillary or Obama with a majority Congress that we have no hope of filibustering.
My distaste for that scenario far outweighs the disdain with which I hold McCain. Suck it up boys and girls. There’s much more at stake here than we want to admit.
BacaDog on February 6, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Do you have any idea how poorly McCain is going to do in the general? I’m going to enjoy watching that slimy, lying bastard get trounced. I hope he makes Huckabee his VP just so I get to watch them get humiliated together.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:42 PM
It appears Obama pulled out more delegates than Hillary yesterday. And if Obama’s the bottom half of the ticket, I’m not sure.
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Remember when Graham called us bigots in his speech to La Raza? Or McCain’s reference to “loud folks” who opposed shamnesty? Did they not really mean it? We’re supposed to pretend it didn’t indicate contempt?
a capella on February 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Republicans have been here before and we have survived as long as we worked as a team.
bnelson44 on February 6, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Why would they? Their candidate actually is a Democrat. They will be voting in higher numbers this year then ever before. The Republicans… not so much.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Actually, McCain will do better than Mitt would have in the general. McCain will pull in pro-war independents and moderates.
bnelson44 on February 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Not like we are. And they’re motivated. Go look at the turnout numbers. That’s not just a small problem to overcome … it’s a huge one.
thirteen28 on February 6, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Newt has fallen to the dark side as well.
Bolton/Cheney – HELP US !!
fogw on February 6, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Eye on the ball, everybody: it’s the jihad, stupid. When all this primary smoke clears, the war MUST take center stage again. Nothing else within the party will matter if we don’t get that right.
I think the Democrats have succeeded quite nicely in lulling all too many of us into thinking “there is no war”, and that we can afford all this in-fighting that’s going on now. As tragic as a McCain candidacy is, we cannot put the war on the back burner. All decisions, all votes, must be grounded in one purpose – how best to crush the jihad.
Halley on February 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Didn’t McCain say he wouldn’t have appointed Alito because he wears his conservatism on his sleeve?
a capella on February 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Putting it into it’s correct context is not whitewashing it.
thirteen28 on February 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM
McCain is going to get demolished. He deserves to get demolished. He’s a liar and will not get conservative votes or money. Not from this one especially.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Roger Waters on February 6, 2008 at 12:48 PM
The arrogant old puke isn’t going to compromise or reachout to conservatives. Today all he keeps saying is…I’m the Republican front runner and get use to it, in fact its time to embrace the suck… He can bite me!!!
dmann on February 6, 2008 at 12:49 PM
And we wonder why we get garbage candidates on the top of the ticket every year. Time for a change in our Republican primary process.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM
I got news for ya. Actually, the News has news for ya: You ain’t the party. Your views represent a minority of a minority of a minority. Nothing wrong with that, but, I repeat, you ain’t the party.
And it’s long past time for the Mitt propagandists to put that silly “Huckabee’s votes should have been our votes” line. It never was true. The data never showed anything of the kind. Partly because of the relentless condescension toward Huckabee and his voters, but also because they think for themselves, Mitt was not the second choice of the Huckabytes.
CK MacLeod on February 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Video no longer available.
FloatingRock on February 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM
If the far right and their various talking heads can’t reconcile themselves to the Party’s choice, then they should form their own separate political entity and field their own candidate. There is too much at stake to have this childish squabble continue for much longer.
rplat on February 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Sure did. He also has said he would appoint conservative Justices. Do I believe him? Yes, based on his previous votes in the Senate.
What I am sure of is that Hillary or Obama will never appoint conservative Justices. I just can’t take the thought of a left-leaning court lasting for the next 20 years. It’s too terrible to comprehend.
BacaDog on February 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM
childish squabble
So if principles do not matter….one must conclude you are a whore!
dmann on February 6, 2008 at 12:53 PM
10 reasons why McCain is going to get killed in the general:
1). Republicans will not be donating to his campaign.
2). Republicans will be sitting out the election in higher numbers then ever before in the history of this nation. Myself likely included amonst that group.
3). Having a lifelong career politician washington insider on the top of the ticket in a “change” election is begging for disaster.
4). The only reason Republicans will get themselves to the polls is to defeat the oppositions candidate. They are not FOR McCain. That senario loses every time.
5). From a marketing perspective, picture a young Obama or even Hillary side by side with an old, grey, cranky, hobbled man pushing 75 yrs old.
6). Democrats at this point are almost entirely anti war. They have absolutely no reason to reject one of their own in exchange for McCain.
7). The media is going to turn on him and tear him apart the day after the primaries are finished.
8). He has made it clear that he likes Hillary Clinton. He will not attack her. He can’t attack her. The media will tear him apart if he tries to attack her.
9). He is an economic ignoramous running in a year when the economy is turning out to be a huge issue.
10). He will not be able to take advantage of the 80-20% advantage Republicans have in regards to the illegal immigration issue. Many Democrats are not happy with the current flood of low skilled labor invading our country. They are largely against Amnesty. We are forfeiting a gigantic asset with a McCain nomination.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:53 PM
“A presidential election contest between Hillary and McCain will be the most boring election ever. They agree on pretty much everything.”
-Bill Clinton
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:55 PM
No . . . but if your principles cannot be reconciled with an established political party then extract yourself from it.
rplat on February 6, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Yes, seems quite clear to me as well.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 12:56 PM
I’m kind of pulling for the Huckster to win the GOP nomination and would like to see him pick the current Gov. of Arkansas as his running mate just to repeatedly hear
the MSM struggle with the HUCKABEE- BEEBE ticket.
Firmworm on February 6, 2008 at 12:58 PM
John “Stockholm” McSyndrome will drive the republican party and the white house into the ground and ruin any chance of a conservative win in 2012. You need a carter before a Reagan. Let clinton screw things up then we (conservatives) can take the White House back.
Conservatives for Hillary’08
I think it is time to seriously start thinking of a new CONSERVATIVE party. The republican time seems to be ending.
HotAirExpert on February 6, 2008 at 12:58 PM
You trust Bill Clinton now? Guess McCain is actually the uniter.
amkun on February 6, 2008 at 12:58 PM
… by closing Gitmo?
By disallowing “rough” interrogation measures for terrorists?
By showing no understanding of the ecomony (which funds the military)?
McCain is too weak on the fight against Islamofascism.
Bush was stronger. (And he was terrible with his failure to get OBL and calling Islam a “Religion of Peace” whihc UNDERCUT THE EFFORT CATASTROPHICALLY.)
It’ll be a major step backwards with McDole.
The Dems are worse, but neither is any good.
Hoping for an miracle before the conventions.
profitsbeard on February 6, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Apparantly not. At least not according to Howard Dean…
“We can’t afford four more years with a President who drives the economy into the ground. We can’t afford four more years with a President who fights an endless war in Iraq. We can’t afford four more years with a President who gives tax cuts to companies who ship jobs overseas; with a President who can’t get every American the health care they deserve; with a President we just can’t trust.
I don’t just want to beat John McCain – I want it to be a landslide. If you’re as committed as I am, I need you to make a contribution today:
http://www.democrats.org/FightMcCain
Only the Democratic Party is legally allowed to spend unlimited amounts of money to back our nominee and tell the real story about John McCain. We proved that our strategy worked in 2006, and it will work again this fall.”
And so it begins.
BacaDog on February 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM
“Far Right” ??? What you’re calling “Far Right” is the conservative (actual, not pretend) component of the GOP. You could also refer to it as the principled component. Run “principled” through a translator and you’ll also see it means, “we don’t paint a liberal Democrat wannabe as acceptable”.
From the perspective of this household (2 conservatives) and our four kids’ households (another 8 conservatives) – the war hero will be sitting in a congressional seat during the next State of the Union address because he d*mn sure won’t be behind the podium.
Onager on February 6, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Thats exactly what I did during the Shamnesty farce. Went out and changed my affiliation from Republican to Independent. Decided the Republican party no longer represents me or my beliefs. Some day I hope to be able to have a candidate at the top of the Republican party that will inspire me to switch back my affiliation. That would be a happy day for me. Its called priciples rplat. Do you have them or are you the type to vote for McCain?
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Now it’s too late McCainy, now it’s too late
Though we all know you’re really goin’ to try to fake it
It’s just too late
You know it’s too late McCainy
It’s just too late
MB4 on February 6, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Believe what you will and vote as you want, but don’t question my principles or my conservative nature.
rplat on February 6, 2008 at 1:06 PM
10 reasons why McCain is going to get killed in the general(UPDATED):
1). CONSERVATIVES will not be donating to his campaign.
2). CONSERVATIVES will be sitting out the election in higher numbers then ever before in the history of this nation. Myself likely included amonst that group.
3). Having a lifelong career politician washington insider on the top of the ticket in a “change” election is begging for disaster.
4). The only reason CONSERVATIVES will get themselves to the polls is to defeat the oppositions candidate. They are not FOR McCain. That senario loses every time.
5). From a marketing perspective, picture a young Obama or even Hillary side by side with an old, grey, mean, cranky, hobbled man pushing 75 yrs old.
6). Democrats at this point are almost entirely anti war. They have absolutely no reason to reject one of their own in exchange for McCain.
7). The media is going to turn on him and EASILY tear him apart the day after the primaries are finished.
8). He has made it clear that he likes Hillary Clinton. He will not attack her. He can’t attack her. The media will tear him apart if he tries to attack her.
9). He is an ADMITTED economic ignoramous running in a year when the economy is turning out to be a huge issue.
10). He will not be able to take advantage of the 80-20% advantage CONSERVATIVES have in regards to the illegal immigration issue. Many Democrats are not happy with the current flood of low skilled labor invading our country. They are largely against Amnesty. We are forfeiting a gigantic asset with a McCain nomination.
HotAirExpert on February 6, 2008 at 1:07 PM
Didn’t you get the memo? Those of who you are willing to vote for McCain are not conservatives – we got kicked out of the club :(
amkun on February 6, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Don’t you mean Moderate Conservative nature?
HotAirExpert on February 6, 2008 at 1:09 PM
Hahahahahahah ! Not a chance. That’s what the MSM Wanted you to think. They are so gonna enjoy whipping all their “damaging” info out when he gets the nod.
stenwin77 on February 6, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Does anyone know if the CPAC meeting is going to be televised?
KBird on February 6, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Two bits, four bits, six bits
Say Hell No to Juan’s peso!
All for a new party, stand up and say so!
MB4 on February 6, 2008 at 1:13 PM
The fact that the only way people can think of to “defend” McCain is by second-guessing Ronald Reagan’s most questionable decisions 20 years out of context says as much about McCain as every ass-kissing he’s ever given liberals to get his moon-faced gob on TV.
logis on February 6, 2008 at 1:13 PM
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The Race Card on February 6, 2008 at 1:16 PM
CPAC types are very angry at McCain now, and if he blows it, it won’t make that much difference. If he does well, he will win a couple over. But I don’t see CPAC being critical in the long run.
bnelson44 on February 6, 2008 at 1:17 PM
That is better. Thanks for living up to your name HotAirExpert.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 1:17 PM
The prognosis is bad, folks. One way or another, we will have a liberal in the White House next year.
So what to do? The only front left on this battle is congress. If we lose enough seats in the Senate to get run over by whatever the libs want to do, we’re toast. We have got to start working on congressional candidates!
We have lost the White House (short of a Romney miracle), so we must keep some control in congress, even if it is only the ability to block legislation in the Senate.
So get out there, put the presidential race behind you, and start working for your House and Senate candidates. That is the last barrier we have to keep us from tuning into (shudder) France.
iurockhead on February 6, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Ok, I apologize for that last line. That was over the top. I’m frustrated and venting here. Again, I apologize for questioning your principles. Won’t do it again.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Michelle Malkin has a big advantage in the debate with Chavez. Great looking ladies always go into a debate with a visual advantage so it is only fair to let Chavez have the last word. But neither lady said a word about how disastrous Hillary will be if she and Bill get back in. I agree that McCain is not exactly the second coming of Jesse Helms. But Hillary is so much worse. Am I the only one who can see the gathering storm?
Larraby on February 6, 2008 at 1:22 PM
100% agree
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 1:23 PM
I don’t know. I’m having a hard time seeing anything through all this driving rain, whipping wind, lighning, thunder and falling trees.
Zetterson on February 6, 2008 at 1:25 PM
If McCain is nominated and makes it to the White House, I think we can live in fear of his predilection for war. Of course, he wouldn’t be nominated if Huckabee weren’t splitting votes with Romney. And Huckabee thinks he’s doing God’s work. From all this, I can only conclude that it’s all eschatology. Huckabee is the instrument to put God’s warrior in office so that he can start Armageddon! Just ask Huckabee or any other man of the cloth that God likes to chat with.
NNtrancer on February 6, 2008 at 1:29 PM
I beat you to it MB4 but we are also on the same side.
HotAirExpert on February 6, 2008 at 1:30 PM
An answer taken directly from the Democrats play book. rplat, you should learn that liberals are the only ones who shoot the messenger
Ghostbuster on February 6, 2008 at 1:31 PM
No. He cannot. You have to believe in something to unite it.
McCain hates profits.
McCain thinks no one should lose their job.
McCain thinks millions of foreigners should be given my money and made a citizen despite their illegal status.
McCain thinks I am a knuckle dragging insensitive nativist for disagreeing with him.
No thanks “y’all”, I’d rather not be a party member of the Straight Lie Express.
Montana on February 6, 2008 at 1:32 PM
If the conservative base doesn’t get behind McCain we could get “a replay of 1976 that gave us Jimmy Carter.” That’s true, but it was Jimmy Carter’s incompetence that ultimately gave us Ronald Reagan.
Maybe we need another dismal disasterous administration to once again get Americans to wake up, pay attention and reject the socialism and defeatism of the Democrats.
If McCain’s the candidate I will sit out 2008 and start praying for 2012.
drewas on February 6, 2008 at 1:39 PM
The good news is that McCain will make, or break, himself at CPAC. Either he’ll come accross as the liberal in conservative clothing that we know him to be, or he’ll distance himself from the Democrats and his past record. He also needs to distance himself from the pundits and politicians who are mocking conservative talk radio and its hosts. Collectively, that media probably has 50million+ loyal conservative listeners.
He can’t win the general election without conservatives and he knows it. From what I’m hearing, conservatives are planning to either vote for the Democrat or sit out. Either way, McCain loses.
All I can say is he better be really good at CPAC.
orlandocajun on February 6, 2008 at 1:56 PM
More wars.
More Samnesty.
Less First Amendment.
Get ready.
MB4 on February 6, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Believe what you wish. If you believe that McCain can win without conservatives, you are welcome to try to test that theory out. In fact, at this point, it looks like that theory is going to be tested whether you like it or not.
Good luck. You’re going to need it – lot’s of it.
thirteen28 on February 6, 2008 at 2:12 PM
I agree with MB4 and others calling for a new party. No one should sit out the election, imho. I am writing in a candidate of my choice if one is not available.
You will forgive me for saying that the price paid to have the right to that vote is so high that not using it is a disgrace and an insult to those of us who paid that price.
I served my country, came home in 1975 and was insulted, spat upon and denied work, due to my veteran’s status, TO MY FACE.
Vote for someone for cryin out loud. Vote to honor the sacrifice.
dogsoldier on February 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Anyone calling for a new party is someone that is looking for a lifetime of Democrat domination.
I hate the two party system, but we buck it unilaterally at our own peril.
Nader, anyone?
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM
The beauty of this is that McCain and his deluded supporters will have to cozy up to the conservative ass and start smooching it like there is no tomorrow. He will not win without us and his only chance at winning come November is to dive into the conservative butt cheeks with all the vim and vigor that he used during his shamnesty efforts.
Get the popcorn. This is gonna be fun to watch. :-)
csdeven on February 6, 2008 at 2:35 PM
I’m also on that side, and there’s a twist to this. As JayHaw states correctly (can’t believe I’m saying this) that a two party system is what it ultimately gravitates to. That being said, when you have people leaving in both directions (mods and indies to the DNC) and conservatives sitting out, that Big Tent just got a lot smaller, of which may make the tent come down. If I was Mitt, I would pull a coup at CPAC, fold it for the RNC and grab JC Watts or Bloomberg (to self fund) for an Indie spot for a Conservative Tent.
SkinnerVic on February 6, 2008 at 2:35 PM
I lost all respect for Chavez when she said that as a landlord, she would not make sure her tenants were legal.
Connie on February 6, 2008 at 3:02 PM
One more reason: He will likely choose the Huckster as his running mate.
Connie on February 6, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Look, there is room in the GOP for Moderates, Independents, and even the occasional maverik, however it takes a Conservative to lead a Conservative movement and that is not John McCain. McCain can’t even pretend to be conservative for more than a week at a time. He may have done several good and heroic things, but they do not qualify him to be a conservative leader.
I think this will be clear at CPAC McCain is not a Conservative leader.
I no longer feel represented by the Republican Party on a national level. If Mitt Romney does pull a coup and goes thrird party I will gladly jump on that train. As it is I will be attending some State Party meetings over the next few months. That way I can find out if the GOP at least represents me on a State level. If not, I am checking out of the party, because it is quickly loosing and in some cases pushing out its Conservative leadership.
Tim Pancoast on February 6, 2008 at 3:10 PM
LOL
Wouldn’t that just be the icing on the cake?!
It’ll never happen, but it sure would be poetic justice for Mitt to tell the party to get stuffed and declare as an independent. McCain would crap his pants.
BacaDog on February 6, 2008 at 3:10 PM
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