Post-Tuesday: Two RINOs enter, one RINO leaves; Update: Mitt to lure delegates away?
posted at 9:58 am on February 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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What now? Like Geraghty says, maybe Mitt goes to Virginia next Tuesday to take one last stab at stealing a big winner-take-all state, but the Annapolis factor for McCain and the evangelical presence for Huck make it a tough get. After that there are no significant delegate opportunities until March 4, when Romney has to deal with Huck’s southern mojo again in Texas. Is he in it for another month just to nail down another 35-35-30 delegate split? I’m skeptical. The more you think about it, the clearer it is that it was Huck’s wins yesterday in the south, not Maverick’s walkovers in the big blues, that really killed Mitt by denying him any chance of a “conservative vs. RINO” two-man race. As long as he’s got still got bank, Huck goes forward and Mitt probably goes nowhere.
So let’s say he does drop out, leaving us with the race we’ve all dreamed of. McCain won’t want his victory tour sidetracked with surprise losses to Huckabee, especially in red states while he’s busy trying to convince the base he’s a real conservative. Isn’t he basically forced to offer Huck the VP slot — the one he couldn’t turn down, by his own admission — to get him out? Or are we actually staring down the barrel of a RINO vs. RINO mindfark where the blogosphere swings grudgingly behind McCain to stop the greater of two evils?
If that doesn’t leave you depressed enough, enjoy Frum this morning.
Update: If the other candidates disliked him before, wait until he makes this move.
As an example of the Romney campaign’s hurriedly revised calculations, aides had begun discussing an unlikely strategy that relies on delegates who are pledged to other candidates but who are not technically bound to them. Under that plan, the advisers envision that conservative fears continue to work against Mr. McCain, buying time and fueling a series of big victories for Mr. Romney. That would place him at a point where he has enough momentum to wrest some of the promised but not bound delegates into his column at a contested convention.
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Ufff. Nice way to wake up, AP.
Hannibal Smith on February 6, 2008 at 10:01 AM
I’m gonna be sick.
kerrhome on February 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM
I think I’m going to be sick….
kcd on February 6, 2008 at 10:03 AM
RINO? I agree with Bryan, who said McCain has voted conservatively about 80% of the time during his career. Yes, he’s slipped lately, but he’s still better than ultralib Obamary.
jgapinoy on February 6, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Frum is right. His book is thoughtful and worth reading.
Vote Sauron 08 on February 6, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Sounds about right. I don’t see Romney staying in much longer, but I’m not sure Huckabee will be McCain’s vice presidential pick.
I found this post by Mark Levin a bit depressing.
Slublog on February 6, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Allah, why do you say Mccain is the lesser of 2 evils? I always thought Huck was closer to a conservative then Mccain
offroadaz on February 6, 2008 at 10:04 AM
I think I’ve fallen through a dimension warp
LimeyGeek on February 6, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Check those figures again. McCains voting record for 2006 was down to about 49.6 %. He’s flying to the left!
kcd on February 6, 2008 at 10:04 AM
O.k. 2yr olds, let the cry-fest and tantrums begin! (I joke cause I care:)
ThePrez on February 6, 2008 at 10:04 AM
McCain will pick Fred:
1) because he helps w/ the conservative base,
2) he’s a southerner,
3) Fred is his friend.
jgapinoy on February 6, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Not helping the hangover Allah…
dish on February 6, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Adding Huckabee to the ticket is McCain’s easiest and fastest way to (1) kill Romney off for good and (2) shore up a conservative base. Huckabee will turn out enough conservative voters and, more importantly, will be able to call out the church-going ground troops that you need to GOTV on election day. I worked on a Bush 72 Hour Team in Ohio in 2004, and I can tell you that the OVERWHELMING majority of volunteers doing GOTV and other activities on election day were religious affiliated people. And this is in Ohio, not exactly a southern state, and not even in a particularly religious PART of Ohio.
It’s the right and easy move for McCain to make. It will also be a dagger in the heart of economic conservatives and many, but not all, social conservatives.
What scares me the most is that because McCain will seal the deal without any conservative support, that he’ll have no real incentive beyond simply adding Huckabee to the ticket to reach out to conservatives or deal with conservatives. Do you really think McCain is going to appear on conservative media and take conservative thinktanks and ideas and such seriously, after all the conservative pundits and several conservative senators came out and gave McCain an “anti-endorsement?” I could easily see McCain raising taxes or appointing squishy Supreme Court justices just to spite conservatives.
It’s going to be ugly.
Outlander on February 6, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Not according to the American Conservative Union (acuratings.org).
jgapinoy on February 6, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Seriously now, seems like our best option.
ThePrez on February 6, 2008 at 10:06 AM
I like Fred. But you got a 70+ year old Pres candidate. You need someone younger than Fred.
dish on February 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Hm. Well now. That’s a really, really dumb strategy.
Slublog on February 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Can we get a “do over?”
offroadaz on February 6, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Everybody needs to prepare for four years of complete Democrat rule. It is coming.
Big Orange on February 6, 2008 at 10:08 AM
McCain will pick himself because he is too hot-headed to listen to anybody else. Remember the Bugs Bunny cartoon that had Bugs as a ballplayer at every position? That’s John McCain.
Greenhorn on February 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM
McCain. not. RINO.
JetBoy on February 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Slublog on February 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM
I like it. It worked for Huckster here in WV, and that’s politics as usual isn’t it? May McCain and Huskster reap what they sow.
my head hurts
dish on February 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM
The audacity of hope?
RightWinged on February 6, 2008 at 10:09 AM
When Bush picked Cheney, it wasn’t the most logical electoral choice. But they can work together, which counts for something.
jgapinoy on February 6, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Doesn’t help with me or anyone I know personally. This is betrayal and will count Fred dead to me, and leave me writing in Mickey Mouse in Nov. (only partially joking about Mickey.)
tickleddragon on February 6, 2008 at 10:10 AM
Meh. I don’t like that sort of political gamesmanship. People voted to pledge those delegates to a particular candidate. Taking them would be disrespectful to those voters.
Slublog on February 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Agreed. Maybe Minnie Mouse, for the first woman president?
PappaMac on February 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM
I don’t want to go off topic, but 47 people are now confirmed dead in the South. There’s apparently still storms coming. God bless and good luck to those of you possibly in the line of these storms.
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Prediction: McCain will pick someone who looks about like he does as VP. Keep praying for him to pick a conservative VP but it ain’t gonna happen! McCain has proven what an ass he is and how spiteful he can be. He is arrogant and last night just confirmed to him that he does not need conservatives to win the nomination. He will not reach out to conservatives and THAT will definately put a dim in the white house.
kcd on February 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Two words…
…we’re f*cked.
flyawaybird on February 6, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Allah, why do you say Mccain is the lesser of 2 evils? I always thought Huck was closer to a conservative then Mccain
offroadaz on February 6, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Maybe on social issues, but that’s about it. McCain gets hammered for working with the Dems, but lets not forget that Huck actually campaigned for some Dems over Reps in Arkansas. He’s also just as soft, if not softer, on immigration. McCain probably beats him on foreign policy too. Lastly, Hucks also a tax and spender. McCain opposed the tax cuts, but he trys to at least justify it by saying its because Bush wouldn’t cut more spending.
matthewbit07 on February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM
How the hell did it come to this. What a disaster. McCain? Captain Amnesty? Lover of Ted Kennedy? Keating 5 member? Republicans cream of the crop?
Get me a puke bucket quick !!
saiga on February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Johnny McCompromise simply cannot be trusted and neither can the Huckster. The two of them together would be a perfect storm of suck for the conservative movement.
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If Mitt doesn’t pull a miracle out of the magical Mormon underwear the Huckster undoubtedly thinks he wears, we’re going to be stuck once again having to choose between the lesser of two evils.
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I need a drink.
xardoz on February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Huckabee as VP would attract the evangelical South in the general election.
On the other hand, Romney as VP would bring $$$$ — and McCain is pretty broke right now I think. Plus Romney has way more delegates than Huckabee has right now.
SunSword on February 6, 2008 at 10:13 AM
My Bad…going back to bed now
PappaMac on February 6, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Huckabee ain’t conservative, except on God and guns. And I’m not quite sure about his sincerity on the God thing, but that’s only a personal suspicion.
There were some genuine political conservatives in the race earlier, but all I ever heard was that Hunter was not a good enough public speaker and Thompson was “lazy” and talked to slow or something.
Both sound like Romneyesque criticisms. Hmmmm. Perhaps Ms. Malkin was a Romneyite all along? It would be hard to believe, but not impossible I guess.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Wow, thats terrible
offroadaz on February 6, 2008 at 10:15 AM
The Year in History 2008: John McCain begins his epic troll of the Republican Party
pseudonominus on February 6, 2008 at 10:15 AM
The suck part is that Romney doesn’t have enough delegates to be a “king maker”. I suspect McCain will pick Huck for VP just to gain the evangelical vote.
Romney is a better (conservative) VP candidate, but McCain is playing to win. Screw conservative principles.
natesnake on February 6, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Slublog on February 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM
true. I guess playing dirty politics as usual is the wrong way to go, but it makes me feel better to think it.
dish on February 6, 2008 at 10:16 AM
McCain is by far worse than Huckabee. Do not fool yourselves. In the rage to suppress Huckabee and “show the Christian right a thing or two,” all that we have done is to allow McCain to get the nomination.
I’d vote for Ron Paul before McCain. That’s how much I detest the man. At least Paul has “intellectually respectable” domestic positions, albeit they will never be passed in the forseeable future. But he would at least be an economic/social conservative.
But I’d vote for Huckabee before Paul. That’s how much Paul disgusts me, because his “blame America first” foreign policy is completely anti-American.
HYTEAndy on February 6, 2008 at 10:18 AM
What the heck are you talking about?! Mitt quits when he’s far ahead of Huck in delegates? That’s something the MSM is pushing. You’re just like them.
It ain’t over.
tgillian on February 6, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Huckabee ain’t conservative, except on God and guns. And I’m not quite sure about his sincerity on the God thing, but that’s only a personal suspicion.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:14 AM
I think there’s enough evidence so far to say that this is more than a personal suspicion. Using churches as voter recruiting centers and as fundraising boosters is beyond sleazy.
matthewbit07 on February 6, 2008 at 10:18 AM
That’s OK. BKennedy and csdeven will tell you they were all Mormon or Catholic hating bigots anyway.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Allah, the more I think about it, a McCain/Huck ticket is probably one of the single worst tickets on many levels. The main reason I see it as bad is that the GOP base in Congress can only hold out so long on McShamnesty style legislation without looking like they aren’t loyal to the GOP.
Seriously, it’s a play where I’ll take my chances with a Clinton and a GOP Minority that can stay unified and be vocal against a foe (rather than the foe being my supposed brother in arms). We already know we’re going to get a person (McCain) that will stab us (GOP) in the back as I have the marks to show it here in the southwest with Randy Graf from 2006. It’s quite the conundrum!
SkinnerVic on February 6, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Well guys, now what? The guy’s winning fair and square. I read earlier….Mac/Fred!. Better than Hillary/anybody.
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Selecting Fred Thompson as a running mate won’t do much for McCain with the base. Besides, I think Fred (whom I like) has gone into the Witness Protection Program.
If McCain selects Huckabee as his VP (Huck is showing well in the south and can fool some people into believing he’s a real conservative, apparently), then all bets are off. No way will I vote for a couple of liars like these two.
I’ll consider pulling the lever for Hillary or Barack. The Republican Party needs a jolt, and there’s nothing like 4 (and the prospect of 8) years of Madame President to give the Republican Party the barium enema it apparently needs.
D2Boston on February 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Really, I sincerely hope that Romney will consider running against Kerry for the US Senate. Kerry is up in 2010, and Romney would have a real shot, wouldn’t he?
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Huckabee actually gives lip service to immigration enforcement. That’s light years ahead of Juan MexicCain’s “My position on immigration hasn’t changed.”
HYTEAndy on February 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM
And I’m pretty sure Mitt would never be a VP. The other guys hate him too much.
HYTEAndy on February 6, 2008 at 10:21 AM
And I DO like Funky Chicken’s idea.
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:22 AM
TEXAS HATES McCAIN!
TEXAS HATES McCAIN!
TEXAS HATES McCAIN!
TEXAS HATES McCAIN!
I thought I’d throw that out there since I do support Romney. The illegal alien peddlers and Paulnuts will back Comrade McCain, but I never will.
I’ll sit out the general election if he gets the nod.
madmonkphotog on February 6, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I still think the BEST VP pick for McCain would be J.C. Watts, if he could be convinced to come on board. You’ve got southern, black, conservative, and Christian all rolled up into one. Plus, it would set the stage for a Watts presidency, which would be a wonderful thing. Again, IF J.C. Watts could be convinced to jump back into Washington politics. (Fingers crossed…)
Beo on February 6, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Mac/Ridge? Mac/Patreaus?
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Um…this southern Christian who lives in Texas would never vote for Mike Huckabee or John McCain. NEVER!!!
Joshua P. Allem on February 6, 2008 at 10:24 AM
McCain’s acceptance speech:
20 million illegals (and counting) can’t be wrong, my friends.
My multi-millionaire drug-stealing wife told me so.
And I have a ‘uniter’ for Veep.
My great friend, Lindsay Graham.
Suck on that, Bushies!
And conservatives!
And now on to oblivion!
profitsbeard on February 6, 2008 at 10:24 AM
HYTEAndy on February 6, 2008 at 10:20 AM
You’re correct, but his actual record I would argue is worse than McCain’s on this issue.
matthewbit07 on February 6, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Mitt is on the verge of destroying his future in this party.
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 6, 2008 at 10:25 AM
What in the world was the RNC thinking? Is the whole lot of them infected with Amnesty Fever? The party leadership gets plenty of blame in this disaster if you ask me. Is McCain an example of the best and brightest for the entire damned Republican Party? If so, the USA will be overrun with anarchist illegals and out march to join the ranks of the third world will be moving right along, the direction McCain wants it to move.
What a hero.
saiga on February 6, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Hey, I said a month ago that McCain didn’t have a prayer, so my crystal ball is not too good
That said, it would be hard for me to see McCain picking Huckabee as his running mate. The evangelicals who smeared McCain so bad in 2000 are now on the Huck team, with the push polling, etc. If nothing else, I do think McCain holds a grudge against those folks strong enough to keep him from picking Huck.
Or at least I hope so.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:26 AM
NOT RIDGE. No, no, no.
Why not just shoot yourself in the foot and do Mac/lettucehead Chertoff?
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Don’t you mean his Girlfriend Lindsay Graham?
saiga on February 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM
saiga on February 6, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Sadly, I fear it has all become about the ability to win an election. Many McCain supporters I talk to are voting for him simply because they feel he has the best shot of defeating the Dems.
matthewbit07 on February 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM
JayHaw-
Is that the Party of open borders, no tax cuts, anti-1st Amendment, pro-global warming hysteria, and bigger nanny-state government? The Dem-lite Republocrat Party?
I think Romney will survive.
Will that Party?
profitsbeard on February 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM
And to all the Kossaks in conservative’s clothing trolling around here today…We’ll pull it together and beat your asses again.
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Since Mac has 4 times the amount of delegates compared to either Romney or Huck, a brokered convention is not realistic. Mac is the candidate.
The VP slot could help pull the base together. Since Fred was the one to help sling-shot Mac into the race (SC debates and Primary), it would be reasonable for Mac to pick Fred as VP.
Fred struggled with organization in his campaign. Since Mac’s organization is firing on all cylinders, Fred could jump in the VP slot and shore up the ticket’s conservative credentials.
The VP debate would be fun to watch.
natesnake on February 6, 2008 at 10:30 AM
I’ve given this a lot of thought and I simply cannot vote for John McCain under any circumstances. He’s a bitter nasty person and so are all those telling me to shut up and get on the Tijuana Express in the name of party unity.
I agree with Rush that the GOP, as it was since Reagan, has been utterly destroyed by you McCain/Rudy people.
highhopes on February 6, 2008 at 10:31 AM
I like Mac/Fred!. We’d also see Jeri again.
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:31 AM
I don’t want him picking DeMint either. DeMint is just too valuable in the Senate right now. We desperately need him and Sessions to stay right where they are. Coburn too.
Bob Riley is governor of Alabama and a good guy. He’s very religious and quite competent as an administrator. He did piss off some staunch conservatives by proposing a bond issue a few years back to raise money for education. He’s also fairly young? I think he likes living in AL though.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:32 AM
Sessions?
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Do you really think that the majority of the party agrees with you? Really? Did you see yesterday’s results?
Life is good inside your bubble isn’t it?
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM
eyeroll yeah, the GOP was destroyed by Rudy Giuliani. He saved New York City, but hurt the GOP. get a grip on yourself.
I think Jeri-Cindy would make lots of guys happy LOL Even folks who don’t like either of their husbands would show up for those joint appearances I bet.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Frum thinks the conservative movement needs a “big rethink.” How about Republican politicians try to act conservative and enact conservative legislation. The reason the Republican party is in the state it is in is because they blow. Eight years of out of control spending and new entitlements has blurred the distinction between the two parties. Power corrupts and it seems like the main the job of a lot Republican politicians is keeping their jobs. If the world was not such a dangerous place, I would not be even considering voting Republican.
Shtetl G on February 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Sessions?
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM
At least I do have a couple things to be proud of in Al today…
kcd on February 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM
Anyone but Huckabee for VP. I couldn’t bring myself to vote for that even against Hillary. Any reasonablly conservative VP would be enough for McCain to get my vote in the general, assuming he continues with his admitedly modest overtures towards us.
phronesis on February 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM
I wonder what El Rushbo will have to say today?
I am honestly curious to see if he softens his stance in light of reality.
But, however much I like Rush, he is an entertainer and I don’t make my political decisions based on the advice of an entertainer.
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM
natesnake-
Sleepy-time Fred against vigorous Obama?
“Tired, old, mumbly, diffident, white guy Washington Insider” debating against “vibrant, new, fresh, foreward-looking, smooth-talking ‘Black’ historical figure”?
I like Fred MUCH more, but he doesn’t have the fire in his pinkie, much less in his belly.
McCain will look testy and crusty and ancient.
Fred, like a Bassett Hound awakened from a nap.
Vote for a Republican Congress, at least, to counter the Dem winners.
profitsbeard on February 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:34 AM
you forgot the /sarc tag didn’t you? please?
dish on February 6, 2008 at 10:35 AM
We need Sessions right where he is. Remember when he was up for federal judgeship? The left got out the long knives and torpedoed him with “racist” allegations of the most stupid sort. It was enough to kill his confirmation to the bench though.
Then he ran for Senator and Alabamians supported him overwhelmingly.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Well…Who’d be a good pick? Newt wouldn’t do it. Get some names.
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Yea, well “Uncle Johnny” will act like he knows better than everyone else and continue to do foolish things. He has that Mexican open borders knothead on his staff that I will have to watch gloat. All the other so called Republicans are prepared to fall to their knees in a pool of Pi$$ at the sound of the words “Hispanic Voters”.
You can bet that dumb ass will work hard to deport the ID stealing illegal immigrant criminals. Mexico is utterlly corrupt. The Mexicans coming here illegally are simple importing their lawless corruption. These fools wanting to reward them are very very dangerous.
saiga on February 6, 2008 at 10:37 AM
I remember some mentioned Sarah Palin, Gov of Alaska. I liked what I heard about her.
dish on February 6, 2008 at 10:37 AM
LIE 126-
Olympia Snowe.
Rino-ette.
profitsbeard on February 6, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Not so fast dish. Remember, Jeff Sessions is a staunch conservative and he was the one in the senate that blew the whistle, quite loudly I might add, on McAmnasty’s plan.
kcd on February 6, 2008 at 10:38 AM
kcd on February 6, 2008 at 10:38 AM
actually, I was commenting on funky chicken’s comments about the wifes…
dish on February 6, 2008 at 10:40 AM
He was slow out of the blocks, but he had a tremendous showing the debates near the end of his campaign. I think he could do well against Obama in a VP debate.
Old? Yes. Grizzled? Yes. What works for him is his use of facts mixed with platitudes. Obama only uses platitudes.
Point awarded to Fred.
natesnake on February 6, 2008 at 10:40 AM
check out her bio
http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.php
I like her…
dish on February 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Please, no.
Slublog on February 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM
dish, I was responding to the guy who said Rudy/McCain killed the GOP.
Idiotic. How about Trent “railroad to nowhere” Lott? How about Ted “bridge to nowhere” Stevens? How about Larry “wide stance” Craig? Rudy Giuliani turned New York around after the Dinkins administration managed to make it into a close proximity of urban hell on earth, but he is somehow beyond the pale?
If GW Bush had told Lott and Stevens and the rest of the pork pushers to stop their madness, and and found his veto pen to nuke the GOP porkfests before 2006, we wouldn’t have a dem congress, IMHO. And this election wouldn’t be so worrisome.
The fact is, we do have a dem congress. And the dem party is about to nominate a super-liberal for POTUS, and lots of you still seem to think that handing the WH and the congress over to the super-libs, who will then get to load up SCOTUS for the next couple of decades with super-libs would be a good idea.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM
…profitsbeard…
LOL, good one.
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Does anyone here really think that the choice in VP really has much impact? News flash: It doesn’t. It makes news for a couple of days, but in the end makes very little difference unless they make a really bad pick.
People vote for Presidents, not Vice Presidents
Hollowpoint on February 6, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Because the MSM’s polls said so?
He’s their peacock now, but watch how they pluck out all of his feathers as we head into the general election.
fogw on February 6, 2008 at 10:43 AM
That’s also why I want to see Romney consider running for the senate in 2010 against Kerry. That shitbird needs to go.
Romney is a moderate. I’ll take a moderate over “jen-jis boy” any day of the week.
funky chicken on February 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Maybe there will be a “White Knight” parashute in at the last minute to save the day !!!
I do not see any prospects, however.
saiga on February 6, 2008 at 10:44 AM
“Sarah Palin, Gov of Alaska”
outside the box…nice
the bio is great
LtE126 on February 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM
In general it just seems like most people feel a conservative candidate can not win in American anymore. The GOP has been tracking left for at least the past eight years. Its about winning elections to them, not principles. Since many believe conservative ideals don’t appeal to Americans anymore, at least in sufficient enough numbers, they are tracking to the left and adopting some Dem ideas; increasing entitlements, big spending, soft on illegals, etc, etc. McCain and Huckabee both represent this philosophy. It’s a democrat-lite philsophy. 25% percent less insanity, same great liberal policies. When its all said and done, sadly, they may be right. Lets not forget that America’s culture has been ever changing to the left since at least the end of WWII. Both parties seem to be on the same path, its just one is taking a jet and the other a bus. Onward to Europe!
matthewbit07 on February 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM
I have great admiration Cheney and think he has been a fantastic V.P., but one of the reasons that we’re in this fix right now is because we don’t have a Veep who is young and healthy enough to run for the top ticket.
Mitt would be an ideal Veep Candidate if they could mend fences, which seems unlikely. I can’t imagine that the moderate/independents who are drawn to McCain would want Huck on the ticket and even conservatives (except for the evangelicals who support him) would flee in droves. As Karl Rove said last night, it would be “double trouble”.
Buy Danish on February 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Like Mike Huckabee. That would be a bad pick.
But yeah…the VP is not going to have much influence over policy.
Slublog on February 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I could be wrong, but considering the Dem vote turn-out (2 to 1 compared to GOP), Mac needs a VP candidate with a lot of name recognition. He NEEDS to pick one of the other GOP candidates for voter turn-out.
There is a slue of better VP candidates (and Presidential candidates) than what is currently in the field. Spilt milk and all that. The GOP cannot afford a “getting to know you” period with a new face. Use the kit of parts that’s already available.
It sucks, but that’s my humble opinion.
natesnake on February 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
In-state tuition for illegals vs. Z-visa for 20 million illegals. Take your pick as to which is worse, especially when one is giving lip to “not supporting amnesty.”
I am not a Huck man by any means, but he’s way ahead of McCain.
HYTEAndy on February 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM
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