O’Reilly to MKH: Hey, how about some federal laws to regulate speech on the Internet?
posted at 10:00 pm on February 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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At long last, the not-so-hidden agenda behind this weekly journey into the icky is laid bare. Tort law’s not enough, it seems; when he talks about “policing the ‘Net,” he means it. Consider this a fortuitous bookend with the Steyn post, starring MK as the hostile witness forced to testify for the prosecution against the Web. Bill likes to say he’s not a conservative. Indeed.
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I stopped watching his show and listening to him a long time ago. He is very much like McCain. He NEVER budges on ideas he has, and he is old as dirt and can relate to youth about as well as Romney can relate to the poor.
muyoso on February 6, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Hey, how about NO?
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Hey Bill, get bent you authoritarian douchebag.
doubleplusundead on February 6, 2008 at 10:07 PM
O’Reilly really needs to get a grip - I know he’s said he hates the Internet, but if he’s not on it, then I would imagine he really doesn’t know anything about it.
And as for conservative… not.
kippras on February 6, 2008 at 10:08 PM
MKH is spot-on about McCain and the right-wing blogosphere.
JetBoy on February 6, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Good one! /high five
Because Romney is an elite corporate fat cat!
Lehosh on February 6, 2008 at 10:10 PM
So, he wants to police the internet. Does he feel the same way about the fairness doctrine or is he just a hypocrite?
dawgyear on February 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM
I get the feeling that FOX is moving to the left, ever so slowly, to appease the libs.
Yeah Bill lets put some laws out there for the internet. While were at it, lets make some for cable news.
I know he isn’t this dumb.
PappaMac on February 6, 2008 at 10:12 PM
It is not moving slowly to the left. The key term in my statement is “slowly”.
TCJ on February 6, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Um, don’t we already have laws for what’s on cable.
What’s the FCC’s job then?
terryannonline on February 6, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Danika Patrick?
Wind Rider on February 6, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Hmm, I’d be open to a re-evaluation of Times v. Sullivan and the public vs. private distinction for plaintiffs.
SteveMG on February 6, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Bloviating Bill ought to be smart enough to know where such laws would lead.
Gatordoug on February 6, 2008 at 10:24 PM
MKH is a goddess and O’Rielly is an idiot. I only watched because of, well, the goddess.
joeyb1955 on February 6, 2008 at 10:25 PM
The more you watch him the less you like him.
roux on February 6, 2008 at 10:25 PM
From global warming (he has drunk deeply of the Koolaid), to insisting the oil companies are gouging with gas prices, despite the number of people who have tried to explain basic economics and market forces to him (including Cavuto), and now this. He is McCainian in his dogged refusal to absorb facts that contradict his views. And that makes him, a pinhead.
iurockhead on February 6, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Oh, that. Yeah, and O’Reilly can be quite a tool. This would be one of those times.
Wind Rider on February 6, 2008 at 10:27 PM
I know MK was probably a little stunned by Bill’s ridiculous comment about needing to regulate the ‘net, but I was hoping for a more vigorous defense of free speech from the right.
I think she should convince them to devote an entire segment next time to debunking this ridiculous anti-free speech shtick Bill has going.
Nessuno on February 6, 2008 at 10:27 PM
It’s a crying shame that such a lovely lady has to put up with O’Reilly.
MarkoMancuso on February 6, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Isn’t one of Murdoch’s sons poised to take a major role in Fox News, and isn’t he very liberal? I know his wife works for some Clinton outfit.
Grayson on February 6, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Go McCain!!!!!!!!!!
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Thanks for adding such valuable insight.
MarkoMancuso on February 6, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I just watched the GoDaddy web ad. It was funny.
Jeez Bill you can’t handle a reference to beaver. You need to get that stick out of your rear end.
roux on February 6, 2008 at 10:31 PM
I agree with Bill. I saw a website the other day about using those falafel things on women. Sick puppies out there…..
RW Wacko on February 6, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Oreilly, “you can destroy people on those nets now”
Its a series of tubes.. LOL!
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words.
doubleplusundead on February 6, 2008 at 10:36 PM
‘Some of the right wing stuff against McCain is downright vicious’. Too right it is.
‘On the right side I’ve seen some really nasty attacks on McCain batted down and debunked’. You keep tellin’ it as it is MKH.
Shame O’Reilly loses the plot at the end.
Pax americana on February 6, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Typical O’Reilly.
Zorro on February 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM
my interwebz be jammed.. curse you Allahpundit!
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM
why click on a link that is labeled STFUNOOB.jpg?
N00berz!
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Bill & Fox are moving left and there is nothing slow about it.Have not watched him in more than a year
thmcbb on February 6, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Because you need to shut your trap and its a funny picture, that’s why…I so wish we could post pics.
doubleplusundead on February 6, 2008 at 10:40 PM
As I understand it, FCC is authorized by Congress to regulate content broadcast over public airways.
Cable is delivered by, well, cable; and so the FCC can’t regulate its content.
SteveMG on February 6, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Isn’t it past your bedtime?
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Nope… i have a sleeping disorder. >:}
Meds should be kicking in after awhile..
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Explains so much.
amerpundit on February 6, 2008 at 10:43 PM
I dunno how MKH had enough self-control to not lean over and throttle O’Reilly.
As for whether I’ve been vicious to McCain, I’m going to take the Fifth on that.
Switching to the real topic, we’re slipping folks. 25 minutes to the first gratiuitous suck-up to The Hammer? Far too long, especially because she uncorked a very nice laugh (and I can’t believe I’m the first one to mention that 44 minutes in).
steveegg on February 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM
:}
Glad to be of assistance. ;)
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 10:44 PM
the internet is going to have some sort of laws or regulations come its way at some point, or an attempt to. Some of the paulnuts, the IT types, supported him soley on that reason…the FISA stuff, internet gambling law and whats coming in future probably.
they have porn versions of youtube now, any kid anywhere could get on there and knock themselves out and then some for free.
jp on February 6, 2008 at 10:55 PM
be still my heart
locke on February 6, 2008 at 11:03 PM
“you can destroy people on those nets now” - really?! How’s that work, do they disintegrate? melt? just pop out of existence? Think O’Bloviator would illustrate for us precisely how that works?
It never once occurred to that dumb@ss that when someone says something bad about you, you can a)ignore it or b)counter it with other information.
And as for destroying people… good GRIEF, do we have to make a list of how many people the media has slandered? Start with Richard Jewell and work your way forward or backward, you’ll come up with a long list. O’RLY is a fool.
Laura on February 6, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Yeah, I watched that on FNC earlier…I think Bill’s got the wrong idea here. Hey Bill, we’re not China.
CP on February 6, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Got a link? >:} hehe.. /just kidding..
but..hey… umm.. about that link.. >;}
Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 11:10 PM
It’s a crying shame there aren’t any individuals, anywhere, who are legally and morally responsible for monitoring and protecting those poor kids. For example, if the kid was hungry, they could fix him dinner… if he had a broken arm, they could take him to the ER… buy him clothes when he outgrows his old ones… just basically take charge and be responsible for him until he reaches the age of legal majority.
Laura on February 6, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Regulating Rights in he name of protecting everyone when all it does is make it harder for those who are responsible with their Rights to exercise them freely. Attacks like this aren’t just limited to those who would take away your 2nd Amendment Rights (which Mr. O’Reilly also wants more regulation on last I heard).
Yakko77 on February 6, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Did BO admit he does not have a life-at lease one that does not include the internet.
MKH keep up the great work keeping BO in line.
MSGTAS on February 6, 2008 at 11:24 PM
I sense a pattern developing here.
see-dubya on February 6, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Shure and how about some Federal Regulations on BO’s speech?
We could just outsource it to the PRC just like our manufacturing and campaign financing. Hey! And I can bring my own bullet.
ronsfi on February 6, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Which pattern is that one? I see two; the lateness of the gratuitous suckups, and the water works. I don’t know which one’s more troubling.
steveegg on February 6, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Friends of mine having to put up with o’Reilly’s schtick.
see-dubya on February 6, 2008 at 11:40 PM
“You can destroy people on those nets.”
Brilliant, Mr. O’Reilly.
fourstringfuror on February 6, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Very true. The sooner Fox replaces O’Reilly with MM or pehaps Dennis Miller (ah heck; I think MKH can carry an hour show, but it would absolutely kill the HamNations), the better.
steveegg on February 6, 2008 at 11:44 PM
You can destroy people on blogs??? As though the MSM can’t destroy people, and never have????
Couldn’t Mary have hit this our of the park??? Is she afraid she won’t be asked back??
I have heard this guy repeat these kinds of statements on his show,, attacking and attempting to destroy blogging!! In other words,, using his position to destroy and regulate what others are saying! Who then is regulating him????
The truth is, the internet is the great equalizer! We all have equal access! Someone wants to destroy someone with a blog,, all that someone has to do to get equal time is put up their own blog!!
If the MSM wants to destroy someone, I can’t buy a TV station to get equal time!!P>
Fact is, they want to shut us down because they don’t want the competition! If they succeed, it won’t be the Dems that do it,, it will be guys like O’Reilly and McCain wannabees that shut us all down!!
I am convinced, it is Republicans that pose the most danger of reviving the Fairness Doctrine!
JellyToast on February 6, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Oh, you mean, like, parents and stuff?
fourstringfuror on February 6, 2008 at 11:47 PM
they have porn versions of youtube now, any kid anywhere could get on there and knock themselves out and then some for free.
They’re called parents!!! Parents! Parents!!
There is filth on the internet! Parents can get software to block it as well! They can watch what their kids are doing!! Put the computer in the kitchen. In the living room!!
There is a lot of bad stuff in the world! There is also a lot of bad and dangerous government!!
JellyToast on February 6, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Wait, so we need the government to step in babysit the internet? The same government that can’t pay its phone bill? The same government that can’t protect our borders against invaders? The same government that can’t provide the most basic protections and guarantees to its citizen.
No, we don’t need the government telling us what to do with our internet.
fourstringfuror on February 6, 2008 at 11:52 PM
LEAVE BILL ALONE! EVERYBODY KNOWS!!!!
LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!@!@!@!@!
lsutiger on February 7, 2008 at 12:04 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Patrick
Lacking any real racing skills, Danica is little more than a pretty face and a nice chest on which to place your company’s name. She’s posed for dozens of magazines, made plenty of commercials, and done hundreds of photo ops, all of them playing on her good looks and her athletic body.
Unfortunately for her, her whining about sexism and being looked at differently fall on deaf ears when she makes commercials like the one here.
Yeah, I’m hard on her. I’m hard on her because racing isn’t for pansies. If she can’t run with the big boys, she shouldn’t be on the track.
fourstringfuror on February 7, 2008 at 12:06 AM
No gill nets, Bill!
They’re the worst!
Right after those sticky cyber-webs.
(O’Reilly, the guy who initially supported the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty Bill as “probably the best we’ll be able to get…” and who then learned to backpedal faster than a one-legged unicyclist in an elephant stampede.)
profitsbeard on February 7, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Why, yes, that was pretty much what I had in mind. :-)
Laura on February 7, 2008 at 12:21 AM
He jumped the shark a long time ago. He hates the nets as he calls them because they exposed him as a perv for his phone sex thing. He is a Dinosaur, I hate to admit I tune in the Olberdouche because he is more interesting. I am not proud of that.
pjf626 on February 7, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Dude, have you seen the last three Indy races? She was rookie of the year in ‘05 not to mention she placed seventh in points last year. You don’t do that without any real racing skills.
I’m pretty sure she can hold her own.
SouthernDem on February 7, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Bill O’Reilly is revolted by the Constitution unless of course he gets to pick and choose the parts he likes.
Bill hates the Internet because it is a shining example of what the First Amendment is all about. He is just pissed he is not the gate keeper anymore.
Have we not had this argument before a million times?
Too bad our own Supreme Court does not understand this.
ScottyDog on February 7, 2008 at 1:46 AM
Internet Expert? How do you get that title? Go to an online university?
B26354 on February 7, 2008 at 1:48 AM
CNN beat out FOX on Super Tuesday. I’d be careful, Bill O’. I haven’t watched Fox prime time in a month and a half.
Connie on February 7, 2008 at 1:56 AM
“Fox” ? Oh! You mean the Missing White Woman Network! Yeah, I stopped watching that station too, quite a while back.
Laura on February 7, 2008 at 2:02 AM
Sabine Schmidt for the win.
Bill doesn’t know a thing about the interbutts and should really just site back and nod when MKH tells him things about it…
liquidflorian on February 7, 2008 at 2:02 AM
If BO had MKH on everyday I would watch everyday. Other than that it’s a snore fest!
HotAirExpert on February 7, 2008 at 2:11 AM
He is actually more like Rudy, a strict authoritarian/disciplinarian/do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do kinda of guy.
He describes himself as a conventional populist. He plays a Conservative on TV because he basically has to appeal to the audience he has harvested over the years.
I posted this same thing earlier under the Shephard Smith entry. The same applies to O’Reilly, his show in the beginning was light hearted and had an almost Hollywood feel to it. But he is no different than any of the Fox anchors, over the years - they got the audience that they got - and Bill’s audience is that type of oxymoron Conservative crop that wants to stop, legislate and regulate everything that they believe is bad for the country and they find repulsive.
We all know that real Conservatives do none of those things, especially bringing the Feds into anything and everything.
O’Reilly wants legislation also because he wants to censor any negative thing written about himself that’s out there.
Rudy was the same way. He went before a judge and tried to block the Transit Auth from running New York Magazine ads on the sides of buses that were promoting the particular issue that covered his dramarama involving his last divorce from First Lady Donna Hanover, which we all as New Yorkers had thrown in our faces anyway.
Thankfully the judges ruled no. Why O’Reilly’s ratings are going upwards is amazing, I have no idea at this late date who would want to watch his brand of megalamania.
And when he has Geraldo or Sharpton on, forget about it, it’s a pure pukefest.
AprilOrit on February 7, 2008 at 2:26 AM
my 12 yearold said to me “thats a mad man” while i was watching this tonight lol
i said naw he’s just old and doesnt understand modern technology and the freedom it has given us, (altho he does know how to say “Go To BillO dot com” enough to make you want to puke) freedoms like choices in what we view based on our personal beliefes and stuff lol
the web like life is full of good and bad bill catchup or be left behind.
trailortrash on February 7, 2008 at 3:08 AM
Actually, he’s around my age. But he has not followed the Internet. I, on the other hand, was on top of it before you guys graduated from high school. O’Reilly just doesn’t want to admit the bloggers have got him…just like the denial coming from the rest of the MSM.
Connie on February 7, 2008 at 4:01 AM
I love watching The Factor and actually agree with O’Reilly 70% or so of the time, but on this…
He’s either playing an extreme devil’s advocate or just entirely and nightmarishly ignorant.
Should people be responsible on the internet? Absolutely (whether they actually will is a different story). Is there any mannerable way to “police” the entirety of the world wide web without completely infringing on our basic, inalienable rights? Certainly not.
And besides… how is the kind of slime Juicy Campus puts out any different than an issue of The National Inquirer or The Sun? Should we have federal laws banning all grocery stores from carrying those? How on earth do those not impact celebrity lives any more than this Juicy website tries to do? People actually have to believe what they’re reading is true in the first place; in the case of tabloidism, sensible people know to take every word of it without even the proverbial grain of salt.
Jockolantern on February 7, 2008 at 4:32 AM
“…. people can get hurt on those nets.”
Brother, can you spare a clue.
silverfox on February 7, 2008 at 5:11 AM
Do you feel dirty? You may want to shower after watching.
I stopped watching the factor just before Geraldo threatened to spit on Michelle. I switched to Glenn Beck. He’s a lot more funny, entertaining… AND doesn’t make my head want to explode with stupid comments like this.
BadBrad on February 7, 2008 at 6:24 AM
Glen Beck IS much more interesting and open minded.
davecatbone on February 7, 2008 at 8:11 AM
The day Michelle Malkin stopped appearing on O’Reilly was the day O’Reilly stop appearing on my TV.
Wade on February 7, 2008 at 8:27 AM
I didn’t watch the clip. Was it about trapeze artists or tuna fishing?
Rod on February 7, 2008 at 8:46 AM
ROFL…
“I’m gonna make a prediction. In 5 years they’re gonna have to pass Federal laws about these websites. No, they will. They will. It’s too dangerous. It’s too dangerous. They have to have some control over it because you can destroy people on those nets now and nobody’s watchin’ it.”
Yeah, you’re right Billy. They will have to pass Federal laws because the next President slated for election is going to likely take another chunk out of free speech. Why can’t he understand that policing the “nets” is the same as gun control or other assaults on the Constitution?
Amateur.
Levinite on February 7, 2008 at 9:09 AM
He’s getting more and more out of touch and showing his age.
He makes me roll my eyes more and more.
Geronimo on February 7, 2008 at 9:14 AM
I don’t think we need any laws for the internet and agree on the parenting points. Just pointing out a likely inevitability, paticularly with minors all over the internet and pervs stalking them on sites like myspace.
The commerce portion of the net is where likely laws could come, or regulation. Buying stuff online is hurting small towns on sales tax revenues all over the country. Take Internet Gambling as well, most states have made Gambling Illegal and then comes the internet and you can do it from home anyway. arguably infringing on states rights.
jp on February 7, 2008 at 9:24 AM
MKH Patriot
NNtrancer on February 7, 2008 at 9:28 AM
O’Reilly Pinhead
NNtrancer on February 7, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Bill does seem to caught up permanently in his own hype.
jeanie on February 7, 2008 at 9:29 AM
Fox is attempting to increase its market share by moving left.
OReilly has always been an eccentric independent and we should train him by sending educational email, explaining, thoughtfully, sincerely and simply, by using words of fewer than three syllables, why censorship is wrong.
Isn’t he the big advocate of personal responsibility?
dogsoldier on February 7, 2008 at 9:56 AM
The fact is, Danica does have racing skills - she has proven that through some very good finishes, including in the Indy 500.
The problem is, she demeans her racing talents, and distracts from that, by doing all the ‘cheesecake’ crap.
I’m not a huge Danica fan, mostly because of her whiny attitude when something goes wrong for her on the track - but also because she takes away any possibility to take her seriously as a driver when she does poses in skimpy bikinis.
The internet ad, while it gave me a chuckle, made me shake my head because it was so corny - and left me saying, “Why are you doing that to yourself?”
Whoever is managing her career is highlighting the wrong things.
jrlingreenbay on February 7, 2008 at 9:57 AM
O’Reilly = Old and busted.
Glenn Beck = New hotness.
Hammer = Just plain hotness. ;)
ZK on February 7, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Fascist.
amkun on February 7, 2008 at 10:07 AM
This is a repeating theme for Mr. O.
Celebrities destroyed by false accusations in newspapers, magazines, the internet, lawsuits filed by former O’Reilly Factor producers such as Andrea Mackris.
slp on February 7, 2008 at 10:08 AM
With Bill O’Reilly it’s all about restricting free speech - about him.
It’s all about him and what he fears people are saying - about him.
AprilOrit on February 7, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Bill O - “Your technology frightens and confuses me.”
ronsfi on February 7, 2008 at 12:41 PM
About MKH to quote the Mask ” Smooookinn” as far as nasty things about McCain if it can’t be back up with facts I don’t listen, but I have no intention of voting for McIdiot.
Voting for him as far as I’m concerned is like voting for Hitlary or Osama.
limowilliam on February 7, 2008 at 1:55 PM
Ooh, I’d love to hear MKH talk about BSD sockets …
corona on February 7, 2008 at 2:06 PM
I think they are referring to the end-user community. I mean, I could be wrong but I don’t think she is a technician. Having said that, MKH’s geeky-ness makes her irresistible.
Claypigeon on February 7, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Much as I enjoy Mary Katharine and hope that she continues to get air time, I think it’s time for her to stop appearing with this clown. It’s like wrestling with pigs: in the end you just get dirty.
student on February 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I’ve believed him since Tookie’s execution.
Esthier on February 7, 2008 at 2:46 PM
I’ve got the solution for O’Reilly.
Elect McCain, and let him pick FEC Commissioners. Then we will have speech restrictions on the internet. Just like McCain sued the FEC to try to get in 2005.
But hey, I’m probably making stuff up just for a vicious attack.
C|Net interview with an FEC Commissioner, from 2005 regarding McCain’s lawsuit:
http://www.news.com/The-coming-crackdown-on-blogging/2008-1028_3-5597079.html
WSJ Editorial on the lawsuit:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006458
Wow, I have the Wall Street Journal helping me make stuff up too? I’m the new Karl Rove… That or McCain really does (or at least did) want regulation of speech on the internet.
But there are some things we like? Seriously, does he have a “benefit” that outweighs the likely damage he’ll cause to Constitutional freedoms?
gekkobear on February 7, 2008 at 3:42 PM
That was truly a thing of beauty
LimeyGeek on February 7, 2008 at 6:47 PM
It’s almost impossible to listen to Bill just so I can listen to the Hammer.
doufree on February 7, 2008 at 7:27 PM
C’mon get with the times, you don’t need to be an actual expert on a subject to get the title of expert. Especially on the internet, or TV, or in truther circles, or…
wahhaw on February 7, 2008 at 9:53 PM